Re: [PHP-DEV] Adopt Ruby Code of Conduct
Hi, On 19/02/16 13:08, benjamin barber wrote: The Ruby Community Conduct Guideline We have picked the following conduct guideline based on an early draft of the PostgreSQL CoC, for Ruby developers community for safe, productive collaboration. Each Ruby related community (conference etc.) may pick their own Code of Conduct. This document provides community guidelines for a safe, respectful, productive, and collaborative place for any person who is willing to contribute to the Ruby community. It applies to all “collaborative space”, which is defined as community communications channels (such as mailing lists, submitted patches, commit comments, etc.). - Participants will be tolerant of opposing views. - Participants must ensure that their language and actions are free of personal attacks and disparaging personal remarks. - When interpreting the words and actions of others, participants should always assume good intentions. - Behaviour which can be reasonably considered harassment will not be tolerated. This is good because it doesn't try to legally redefine harassment, and doesn't support blacklisting based on ideological views, which is something considered illegal many US states (like California, Oregon, Washington). More importantly it doesn't create a inquisition to police people's politics, they are free to be a Men's rights activist or feminist, they can support equal rights or affirmative action, and it wont effect their code or work abilities. Most importantly it doesn't allow a persons feelings, to override the technical merits of a persons arguments, as critics of the SystemD have been labeled as violating the code of conduct. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-July/451692.html What can 'reasonably' be considered harassment differs from person to person. What does 'will not be tolerated' mean? Does this CoC come with a set of teeth? Where is it enforceable? I support the intention to avoid creating a way to police peoples' politics, but there is ambiguity here. - Matt.
Re: [PHP-DEV] Adopt Ruby Code of Conduct
benjamin barber wrote on 19/02/2016 13:08: The Ruby Community Conduct Guideline We have picked the following conduct guideline based on an early draft of the PostgreSQL CoC It's interesting to know what other communities are doing. I understand Postgres are in a similar position to us - they have some initial principles, and are discussing what if any formal Code of Conduct to build on top of them. It sounds like Ruby have picked up those principles. Most importantly it doesn't allow a persons feelings, to override the technical merits of a persons arguments, as critics of the SystemD have been labeled as violating the code of conduct. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-July/451692.html I'm not sure what this link is intended to demonstrate. Without reading every message on the referenced thread, I can't tell whether the warning was valid; and without knowing anything about the CoC in question, or the structure of that particular community, I have no idea what authority that poster had to give the warning, and what the implications of doing so are. I certainly don't see any individuals being "labeled" in that post, or any suggestion that the technical merit of their arguments should be ignored. Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP] -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP-DEV] Adopt Ruby Code of Conduct
> > The Ruby Community Conduct Guideline > We have picked the following conduct guideline based on an early draft of > the PostgreSQL CoC, for Ruby developers community for safe, productive > collaboration. Each Ruby related community (conference etc.) may pick their > own Code of Conduct. > This document provides community guidelines for a safe, respectful, > productive, and collaborative place for any person who is willing to > contribute to the Ruby community. It applies to all “collaborative space”, > which is defined as community communications channels (such as mailing > lists, submitted patches, commit comments, etc.). > >- Participants will be tolerant of opposing views. > > >- Participants must ensure that their language and actions are free of >personal attacks and disparaging personal remarks. > > >- When interpreting the words and actions of others, participants >should always assume good intentions. > > >- Behaviour which can be reasonably considered harassment will not be >tolerated. > > This is good because it doesn't try to legally redefine harassment, and doesn't support blacklisting based on ideological views, which is something considered illegal many US states (like California, Oregon, Washington). More importantly it doesn't create a inquisition to police people's politics, they are free to be a Men's rights activist or feminist, they can support equal rights or affirmative action, and it wont effect their code or work abilities. Most importantly it doesn't allow a persons feelings, to override the technical merits of a persons arguments, as critics of the SystemD have been labeled as violating the code of conduct. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-July/451692.html
