[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC][VOTE] PHP Namespace in core

2020-06-04 Thread Michał Brzuchalski
śr., 3 cze 2020 o 09:49 Michał Brzuchalski 
napisał(a):

> pt., 22 maj 2020 o 08:14 Michał Brzuchalski 
> napisał(a):
>
>> Hi Internals,
>>
>> We have just opened the vote on the PHP namespace in core RFC. The voting
>> will be
>> open for two weeks, until 2020-06-05 06:00 UTC.
>>
>
> Heads-up. We will end the vote soon.
> If anyone may have not decided yet or would like to change their mind,
> this is the last moment.
> You're the one who rocks here!
>

Voting is now closed.
The proposed RFC was rejected with 19 votes in favour and 24 against.
Thank you all for participating.

Cheers,
Michał Brzuchalski


[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC][VOTE] PHP Namespace in core

2020-06-03 Thread Michał Brzuchalski
pt., 22 maj 2020 o 08:14 Michał Brzuchalski 
napisał(a):

> Hi Internals,
>
> We have just opened the vote on the PHP namespace in core RFC. The voting
> will be
> open for two weeks, until 2020-06-05 06:00 UTC.
>

Heads-up. We will end the vote soon.
If anyone may have not decided yet or would like to change their mind, this
is the last moment.
You're the one who rocks here!

Cheers,
Michał Brzuchalski


Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC][VOTE] PHP Namespace in core

2020-05-22 Thread Mark Randall

On 22/05/2020 19:32, Rowan Tommins wrote:
* They might even prefer your RFC, which is still marked "Under 
Discussion": https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php_namespace_policy


Even though the two RFCs were seperate and created without each others 
knowledge, I don't know how people would feel about holding a similar 
one if this one was voted down.


If this one passed it was my intention to immediately vote on my own, 
which would change the policy to require sub-namespaces and limit it to 
autoloadable components.


Which wouldn't make sense if \PHP was still denied.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC][VOTE] PHP Namespace in core

2020-05-22 Thread Rowan Tommins

On 22/05/2020 18:30, Mark Randall wrote:
Should this vote fail, \PHP effectively changes from a reserved 
namespace, to a dead namespace.



I don't see how you get from the text of this RFC to that conclusion.

There are a number of reasons why people who vote against this RFC might 
vote for an alternative, such as:


* They would prefer *more* classes to be in \PHP
* They would prefer fewer classes, but not none
* They would prefer a similar number of classes, but a different definition
* They would prefer a guideline with "should" or "may" rather than "must"
* They like the definition, but would prefer a plan to rename existing 
classes that meet it, for consistency (I don't have a vote, but I might 
well vote No on this basis)
* They would prefer a concrete proposal on how to structure the 
namespace, which this RFC explicitly is not
* They might even prefer your RFC, which is still marked "Under 
Discussion": https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php_namespace_policy



It is possible that "officially declare that we won't use the \PHP 
namespace" would get a majority, but that's not what this vote asks.



Regards,

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[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC][VOTE] PHP Namespace in core

2020-05-22 Thread Mark Randall

On 22/05/2020 07:14, Michał Brzuchalski wrote:

Hi Internals,

We have just opened the vote on the PHP namespace in core RFC. The voting
will be
open for two weeks, until 2020-06-05 06:00 UTC.

Link: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php-namespace-in-core#vote

Cheers,
Michał Marcin Brzuchalski



I hope that those voting look to the long term, the next 10 to 20 years, 
and the potentially hundreds of new classes that they may bring.


I hope those voting don't choose to place a senseless blanket limitation 
on the options available to all future RFC authors, even before those 
authors have had an opportunity to make their case for their individual 
usage of \PHP.


Should this vote fail, \PHP effectively changes from a reserved 
namespace, to a dead namespace.


Mark Randall

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