Re: [PHP-DEV] Removing old branches in php-src
We already have a git repository where we keep historical branches, we don't need to create another. I'm really not sure what the problem is here, and we have spent far too long discussing this non issue. Cheers Joe On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 23:23, Olumide Samson wrote: > > > > Maybe it might necessarily not need be removed, if this might be a better > > idea, why shouldn't there be a php-archive or something like that as a > git > > account or repository where all those historical branches may be kept for > > historical access? > > > > I think removing isn't making sense to me as well, but archiving them > > should be without not much justification like currently requested. > > > > >
Re: [PHP-DEV] Removing old branches in php-src
> > Maybe it might necessarily not need be removed, if this might be a better > idea, why shouldn't there be a php-archive or something like that as a git > account or repository where all those historical branches may be kept for > historical access? > > I think removing isn't making sense to me as well, but archiving them > should be without not much justification like currently requested. > >
Re: [PHP-DEV] Removing old branches in php-src
On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 01:06, G. P. B. wrote: > > Hello internal, > > It seems this topic already has been raised a year ago [1] but nothing has > been done. > So I would like to raise the issue again, there are a various of old and > empty branches currently in git, would it be possible to remove them? > > Best regards > > George P. Banyard > > [1] https://externals.io/message/102982 Hello, Consistency, cleanliness, good organizational things are a virtue. It is not an OCD thingy as some might present it. It is an essential part of good organization. Even with a list of branches that someone with access might even mistakenly pushed to origin decades ago. -- Peter Kokot -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Removing old branches in php-src
I saw the list and the ages, what I didn't see was a justification for removing them. I think a proper analysis hasn't really been performed, for example the native-tls branch was merged after ng into the 7.0 series, and I didn't remove it because it serves as a reference point for the old vs the new way without digging through a bunch of history/logs/whatever ... These branches are costing us precisely nothing, just because they are old, or you don't know what they are for doesn't mean they should be removed. Good justifications include things like the branch causing confusing amongst intended audience, a branch containing code so broken that it could be considered malicious ... and I'm sure other reasons, none of which are being presented ... Cheers Joe On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 11:26, G. P. B. wrote: > Hello, > > I think the list compiled in the initial email done by *Gabriel Caruso* > [1] is a good starting point. > > Copied here for reference. > > 15+ years old: > >- experimental/RETURN_REF >- experimetnal/RETURN_REF_PATCH >- experimental/pre_new_hash_func >- experimental/zts_stdc_scanners >- experimental/rand_redesign >- migration/EXPERIMENTAL >- experimental/namespaces >- migration/unlabaled-1.67.2 >- experimental/ZendEngine2 >- experimental/apache_hooks >- experimental/apache_hooks >- migration/unlabaled-1.3.2 > > 10+ years old: > >- migration/unlabaled-1.29.2 >- migration/INITIAL >- migration/sqlite-start > > Not even 5 years old, but no commit: > >- str_size_and_int64_56_backport >- native-tls >- zend-signal-zts > > Not even 2 years old, but no commit: > >- microseconds > > > Just to be clear I'm not asking to remove Version branches not historical > important ones, but mostly just the ones which have no commit, or are > obsolete. > > > Best regards > > George P. Banyard > > [1] https://externals.io/message/102982 >
Re: [PHP-DEV] Removing old branches in php-src
On 19.08.2019 at 04:08, Sara Golemon wrote: > On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 6:06 PM G. P. B. wrote: > >> It seems this topic already has been raised a year ago [1] but nothing has >> been done. >> So I would like to raise the issue again, there are a various of old and >> empty branches currently in git, would it be possible to remove them? > >> 1/ Which ones *specifically*? Some release branches are empty only > because they didn't need to be patched after release (and our release > process was different). Some are old and even "abandoned", like the > first-unicode-implementation, but they serve a useful historical purpose. In my opinion, keeping old release branches is not really that useful; it is more useful to keep the release tags. Thanks, Christoph -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Removing old branches in php-src
Hello, I think the list compiled in the initial email done by *Gabriel Caruso* [1] is a good starting point. Copied here for reference. 15+ years old: - experimental/RETURN_REF - experimetnal/RETURN_REF_PATCH - experimental/pre_new_hash_func - experimental/zts_stdc_scanners - experimental/rand_redesign - migration/EXPERIMENTAL - experimental/namespaces - migration/unlabaled-1.67.2 - experimental/ZendEngine2 - experimental/apache_hooks - experimental/apache_hooks - migration/unlabaled-1.3.2 10+ years old: - migration/unlabaled-1.29.2 - migration/INITIAL - migration/sqlite-start Not even 5 years old, but no commit: - str_size_and_int64_56_backport - native-tls - zend-signal-zts Not even 2 years old, but no commit: - microseconds Just to be clear I'm not asking to remove Version branches not historical important ones, but mostly just the ones which have no commit, or are obsolete. Best regards George P. Banyard [1] https://externals.io/message/102982
Re: [PHP-DEV] Removing old branches in php-src
Morning, I pretty much just echo what Sara said, I'm not sure what harm they are doing ... Cheers Joe On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 04:09, Sara Golemon wrote: > On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 6:06 PM G. P. B. wrote: > > > It seems this topic already has been raised a year ago [1] but nothing > has > > been done. > > So I would like to raise the issue again, there are a various of old and > > empty branches currently in git, would it be possible to remove them? > > > > 1/ Which ones *specifically*? Some release branches are empty only > because they didn't need to be patched after release (and our release > process was different). Some are old and even "abandoned", like the > first-unicode-implementation, but they serve a useful historical purpose. > > 2/ Why? Git branches are lightweight and don't really impact the project > in any way beyond enumerations. I'm not against getting rid of truly > pointless branches, but I'm also not sure what the appeal is. > > -Sara >
Re: [PHP-DEV] Removing old branches in php-src
On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 6:06 PM G. P. B. wrote: > It seems this topic already has been raised a year ago [1] but nothing has > been done. > So I would like to raise the issue again, there are a various of old and > empty branches currently in git, would it be possible to remove them? > > 1/ Which ones *specifically*? Some release branches are empty only because they didn't need to be patched after release (and our release process was different). Some are old and even "abandoned", like the first-unicode-implementation, but they serve a useful historical purpose. 2/ Why? Git branches are lightweight and don't really impact the project in any way beyond enumerations. I'm not against getting rid of truly pointless branches, but I'm also not sure what the appeal is. -Sara
[PHP-DEV] Removing old branches in php-src
Hello internal, It seems this topic already has been raised a year ago [1] but nothing has been done. So I would like to raise the issue again, there are a various of old and empty branches currently in git, would it be possible to remove them? Best regards George P. Banyard [1] https://externals.io/message/102982
