AW: AW: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 RC1

2003-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Drews
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 I agree. I think we need to take care of this. I wouldn't count 
 on any one 
 company for this (although this is also important).
 How about the people from internals@ who made changes volunteer to write 
 about their changes?

nice idea, but you and i both know how lazy people get, when they have
to write docs or articles instead of producing awesome code ;). I really
would like to see Zend doing such a campaign, not because i think you are
responsible to do so, but because it should be/is worth the money for your
company (roi).

 I understand you at zend wish to enforce speed in release of 
 php5, but think
 about
 preparing the users for it and make it stable
 
 Actually it's more of a personal ambition.

sorry. i believe you have personal ambition in this - ofcourse. But
nevertheless i think that the release is important for Zend as a 
commercial company (looking at those deals with sun i.e.) ;)

cheers

-Wolfgang

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Re: AW: AW: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 RC1

2003-11-11 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Wolfgang Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
  I agree. I think we need to take care of this. I wouldn't count 
  on any one 
  company for this (although this is also important).
  How about the people from internals@ who made changes volunteer to write 
  about their changes?
 
 nice idea, but you and i both know how lazy people get, when they have
 to write docs or articles instead of producing awesome code ;). I really
 would like to see Zend doing such a campaign, not because i think you are
 responsible to do so, but because it should be/is worth the money for your
 company (roi).

Writing docs and articles is time consuming and difficult for developers to
fit in php development along with a job to get some money to eat. 
Is there a list of the major changes? eg
libxml2
domxml
new OO goodness
sqlite bundled
more??

I will get something started if you like, the weight of having each of the
developers do something on top of the standard docs would be a little
excessive. But I agree it would be nice to have a 'What to expect from PHP5'
article out there. Or perhaps a series of of articles on the most important
features?

Just my $0.02
Kevin

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Re: AW: AW: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 RC1

2003-11-11 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Wolfgang Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
  I agree. I think we need to take care of this. I wouldn't count 
  on any one 
  company for this (although this is also important).
  How about the people from internals@ who made changes volunteer to write 
  about their changes?
 
 nice idea, but you and i both know how lazy people get, when they have
 to write docs or articles instead of producing awesome code ;). I really
 would like to see Zend doing such a campaign, not because i think you are
 responsible to do so, but because it should be/is worth the money for your
 company (roi).

Writing docs and articles is time consuming and difficult for developers to
fit in php development along with a job to get some money to eat. 
Is there a list of the major changes? eg
libxml2
domxml
new OO goodness
sqlite bundled
more??

I will get something started if you like, the weight of having each of the
developers do something on top of the standard docs would be a little
excessive. But I agree it would be nice to have a 'What to expect from PHP5'
article out there. Or perhaps a series of of articles on the most important
features?

Just my $0.02
Kevin

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Re: AW: AW: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 RC1

2003-11-11 Thread Jeremy Johnstone
Forgive me for the shameless plug, but since I work for the company who
owns the site I couldn't help but throw in you can always post the new
articles about PHP5 here:

www.devpapers.com

Jeremy

On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 06:15, Kevin Waterson wrote:
 This one time, at band camp, Wolfgang Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
   I agree. I think we need to take care of this. I wouldn't count 
   on any one 
   company for this (although this is also important).
   How about the people from internals@ who made changes volunteer to write 
   about their changes?
  
  nice idea, but you and i both know how lazy people get, when they have
  to write docs or articles instead of producing awesome code ;). I really
  would like to see Zend doing such a campaign, not because i think you are
  responsible to do so, but because it should be/is worth the money for your
  company (roi).
 
 Writing docs and articles is time consuming and difficult for developers to
 fit in php development along with a job to get some money to eat. 
 Is there a list of the major changes? eg
 libxml2
 domxml
 new OO goodness
 sqlite bundled
 more??
 
 I will get something started if you like, the weight of having each of the
 developers do something on top of the standard docs would be a little
 excessive. But I agree it would be nice to have a 'What to expect from PHP5'
 article out there. Or perhaps a series of of articles on the most important
 features?
 
 Just my $0.02
 Kevin
 
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