Re: Geolocation not working after iOS 10.0.2?

[Remi Grumeau]

Well.
It is a drag, but it definitely isn't a waste of time. HTTPS is for good,and 
anything related to user's datas should be encrypted. LetsEncrypt provides free 
SSL certificates, and shared hosting plans are now setting them up for free on 
your domain (at least OVH does).

I do have a webapp service that does exactly what you talk about, and once 
HTTPS is on, geolocation works like a charm.
https://www.pocket-locator.com

Remi

Le jeudi 20 octobre 2016 12:33:01 UTC+2, Thoern a écrit :
> It seems apple have made it hard for everybody who wants to position yourself 
> in a map, using a regular web app. HTML5 geolocation api.
> 
> 
> it seems one have to use a HTTPS / SSE   (same with Chrome latest edition?)
> 
> 
> Think its major drag and a wast of many peoples time. 
> 
> 
> or am I wrong?

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Re: Geolocation not working after iOS 10.0.2?

[Thoern]

You are right too, I´m afraid the hosting is out of my hands, I only get a 
space on a ftp to upload html contents, and develope only a small small 
portion of my time. Once things are working (code wise) I do not mess with 
the code or setup for years. Only update the contents/maps and things work 
fine. 
But all of a sudden things do not work becauce, yes, you know...some 
smartass did this or that. 
I think there must be many like me, maby not pure developers but 
"semi-developers" that work with other things most of their time. Also, 
before, one still had to give permission for the geolocation to work, 
enable this and that on the phones activly. 
And or many websites and webapps that need to be recoded or set up on a 
HTTPS to function.

I know I need to keep track what is happening/news in the field, but usally 
I think of improvments, new possibilities to coding, like when HTML 5 was 
introduced... not this, this just makes me frustrated and makes me loose 
all the joy in it.

Chers/M




Den torsdag 20 oktober 2016 kl. 12:49:56 UTC+2 skrev Remi Grumeau:
>
> You're right, Apple has follow Google Chrome path in its "HTTPS for all" 
> quest.
>
> Thing is, geolocation is a user personal data, so it is not something 
> totally unfair or stupid move they did here. Note that LetsEncrypt offers 
> free ssl certificates you can jnstall very easily on your server tru NPM, 
> and shared hosting companies like OVH did install this free certificate for 
> all its customers websites for free.
>
> Also, we (as developers) have been warned about this for at least a year 
> now, and still can use this API while developing since this limitation does 
> not occur on "localhost" domain name.
>
> A real PAI if you're not already on a https hosting service or do not 
> maintain it, but all in all it's not such a bad thing for the user...
>
> My 0,02€,
>
> Remi
>
> Le 20 oct. 2016 à 12:33, Thoern  a 
> écrit :
>
> It seems apple have made it hard for everybody who wants to position 
> yourself in a map, using a regular web app. HTML5 geolocation api.
>
> it seems one have to use a HTTPS / SSE   (same with Chrome latest edition?)
>
> Think its major drag and a wast of many peoples time. 
>
> or am I wrong?
>
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Re: Geolocation not working after iOS 10.0.2?

[Remi Grumeau]

You're right, Apple has follow Google Chrome path in its "HTTPS for all" quest.

Thing is, geolocation is a user personal data, so it is not something totally 
unfair or stupid move they did here. Note that LetsEncrypt offers free ssl 
certificates you can jnstall very easily on your server tru NPM, and shared 
hosting companies like OVH did install this free certificate for all its 
customers websites for free.

Also, we (as developers) have been warned about this for at least a year now, 
and still can use this API while developing since this limitation does not 
occur on "localhost" domain name.

A real PAI if you're not already on a https hosting service or do not maintain 
it, but all in all it's not such a bad thing for the user...

My 0,02€,

Remi

> Le 20 oct. 2016 à 12:33, Thoern  a écrit :
> 
> It seems apple have made it hard for everybody who wants to position yourself 
> in a map, using a regular web app. HTML5 geolocation api.
> 
> it seems one have to use a HTTPS / SSE   (same with Chrome latest edition?)
> 
> Think its major drag and a wast of many peoples time. 
> 
> or am I wrong?
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