On Sun, 19 Mar 2017, Eric Rescorla wrote:

I haven't fully thought this through, but if yu can switch-hit between TCP and 
UDP,why can't you just race the setup between TCP and UDP and then if you
start
getting packets on UDP, cut over to that. 

There should really be a STRONG preference for UDP:

- (encrypted) TCP in TCP with packetloss _really_ performs poorly and
  should be avoided at all costs

- there is a reason IKE/IPsec uses UDP and ESP and not TCP. It is not
  susceptible to (spoofed) TCP-RST packets :P

Maybe I'm just too influenced by ICE :)

Yes, we are not limited to flow-level security :)

Paul

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