Re: IPv6 addresses for Microsoft Office 365 hosted domains?

2014-11-27 Thread Dick Visser
On a related note, I'm in the process of setting up mail for our new
domain, and Office365 was one of the options.
I was surprised to see that Office 365 hosted domains have only one
MX, which resolves to only two IPv4 addresses:

visser@cajones:~$ host geant-org.mail.protection.outlook.com.
geant-org.mail.protection.outlook.com has address 213.199.154.87
geant-org.mail.protection.outlook.com has address 213.199.154.23

Both sit in the same network, which seems like a bad idea.
Unless this is anycast? Can't tell from here.

However, MS seems to have changed things recently:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/tzink/archive/2014/10/28/support-for-anonymous-inbound-email-over-ipv6-in-office-365.aspx

Better late than never.

The alternative for e-mail is Google Apps, which has IPv6 for years.


Dick




On 27 November 2014 at 03:00, Frank Bulk frnk...@iname.com wrote:
 This afternoon I saw several log messages in our email server's logs in
 relation to emails our local business customer (who uses our ISP email
 server) was trying to send to a Microsoft Office 365 hosted domain:

 [:::12.43.166.xx] Site target domain redacted
 (2a01:111:f400:7c0c::11) said after data sent: 554 5.7.1 Service
 unavailable, message sent over IPv6 [2607:fe28:0:4000::10] must pass SPF or
 DKIM validation (message not signed)

 The PTR for 2a01:111:f400:7c0c::11 is
 mail-by26c0c.inbound.protection.outlook.com.

 But when I check the MX record of the target domain I see there's no 
 for the redacted.mail.eo.outlook.com, just three A's.

 Fortunately we control our local business customer's DNS and I've added in
 our email server's DKIM so that future emails, if they were sent over IPv6,
 should be accepted by Microsoft.  Our customer has no SPF record.


 I also saw two log messages for two Microsoft Office 365 hosted domains:
 26 13:30:59.00 [56882563] Failed :::199.120.69.25
 notification+kyg2k...@facebookmail.com target domain1 email redacted
 9259 1502549920004098-1497189607206...@groups.facebook.com
 [:::199.120.69.25] ubad=0, Site (target domain1
 redacted/2a01:111:f400:7c10::1:10) said: 550 5.2.1 Service Unavailable,
 [target domain1 redacted] does not accept email over IPv6
 26 19:04:52.00 [83985160] Failed :::12.43.166.20 from redacted target
 domain2 email redacted 6546 0EBCBB96763E41B2A4CD9A4CD3DD94BE@sp.local
 [:::12.43.166.20] ubad=1, Site (target domain2 email
 redacted/2a01:111:f400:7c0c::11) said: 550 5.2.1 Service Unavailable,
 [target domain2 email redacted] does not accept email over IPv6

 There's no PTR for 2a01:111:f400:7c10::1:10.  I checked the last 7 days of
 logs I only saw these today.

 It's like Microsoft published some 's for some MX records, but then
 withdrew them, but not before there were a few failures.

 Frank






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Dick Visser
Sr. System  Networking Engineer
GÉANT Association, Amsterdam Office (formerly TERENA)
Singel 468D, 1017 AW Amsterdam, the Netherlands
Tel: +31 (0) 20 530 4488

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RE: IPv6 addresses for Microsoft Office 365 hosted domains?

2014-11-27 Thread Frank Bulk
Thanks, Dick and Franck, that URL has some great information.

I'm 99% sure that neither Office365 customer turned IPv6 on and off, especially 
in the same afternoon (that MSDN blog entry notes that the customer has to 
specifically request it), so I'm guessing that something happened at MSFT that 
it accidentally turned on for a while for some customers.

Frank

-Original Message-
From: Dick Visser [mailto:vis...@terena.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 1:02 PM
To: Frank Bulk
Cc: mai...@mailop.org; IPv6 operators forum
Subject: Re: IPv6 addresses for Microsoft Office 365 hosted domains?

On a related note, I'm in the process of setting up mail for our new
domain, and Office365 was one of the options.
I was surprised to see that Office 365 hosted domains have only one
MX, which resolves to only two IPv4 addresses:

visser@cajones:~$ host geant-org.mail.protection.outlook.com.
geant-org.mail.protection.outlook.com has address 213.199.154.87
geant-org.mail.protection.outlook.com has address 213.199.154.23

Both sit in the same network, which seems like a bad idea.
Unless this is anycast? Can't tell from here.

However, MS seems to have changed things recently:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/tzink/archive/2014/10/28/support-for-anonymous-inbound-email-over-ipv6-in-office-365.aspx

Better late than never.

The alternative for e-mail is Google Apps, which has IPv6 for years.


Dick




On 27 November 2014 at 03:00, Frank Bulk frnk...@iname.com wrote:
 This afternoon I saw several log messages in our email server's logs in
 relation to emails our local business customer (who uses our ISP email
 server) was trying to send to a Microsoft Office 365 hosted domain:

 [:::12.43.166.xx] Site target domain redacted
 (2a01:111:f400:7c0c::11) said after data sent: 554 5.7.1 Service
 unavailable, message sent over IPv6 [2607:fe28:0:4000::10] must pass SPF or
 DKIM validation (message not signed)

 The PTR for 2a01:111:f400:7c0c::11 is
 mail-by26c0c.inbound.protection.outlook.com.

 But when I check the MX record of the target domain I see there's no 
 for the redacted.mail.eo.outlook.com, just three A's.

 Fortunately we control our local business customer's DNS and I've added in
 our email server's DKIM so that future emails, if they were sent over IPv6,
 should be accepted by Microsoft.  Our customer has no SPF record.


 I also saw two log messages for two Microsoft Office 365 hosted domains:
 26 13:30:59.00 [56882563] Failed :::199.120.69.25
 notification+kyg2k...@facebookmail.com target domain1 email redacted
 9259 1502549920004098-1497189607206...@groups.facebook.com
 [:::199.120.69.25] ubad=0, Site (target domain1
 redacted/2a01:111:f400:7c10::1:10) said: 550 5.2.1 Service Unavailable,
 [target domain1 redacted] does not accept email over IPv6
 26 19:04:52.00 [83985160] Failed :::12.43.166.20 from redacted target
 domain2 email redacted 6546 0EBCBB96763E41B2A4CD9A4CD3DD94BE@sp.local
 [:::12.43.166.20] ubad=1, Site (target domain2 email
 redacted/2a01:111:f400:7c0c::11) said: 550 5.2.1 Service Unavailable,
 [target domain2 email redacted] does not accept email over IPv6

 There's no PTR for 2a01:111:f400:7c10::1:10.  I checked the last 7 days of
 logs I only saw these today.

 It's like Microsoft published some 's for some MX records, but then
 withdrew them, but not before there were a few failures.

 Frank






-- 
Dick Visser
Sr. System  Networking Engineer
GÉANT Association, Amsterdam Office (formerly TERENA)
Singel 468D, 1017 AW Amsterdam, the Netherlands
Tel: +31 (0) 20 530 4488

GÉANT Association
Networking. Services. People.

Learn more at: http://www.géant.org