[IRCA] Fwd: TP 5 Apr Victoria version

[Nick Hall-Patch]

Make that previous message...5 Aprilearly to bed tonight methinks.



Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 04:50:31 +
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From: Nick Hall-Patch 
Subject: [IRCA]   TP 4 Apr Victoria version

A considerably better than expected morning, though with lots of 
splash, and the bulk of the lift was just before 1300UT rather than later



pretty darn good audio (all of it understandable by a native 
speaker, at least briefly):


828 JOBB  1244UT, English lessons.
1566 HLAZ woman in Japanese 1244UT



Reasonable audio  at  times during the period (much of it 
understandable by a native speaker, though often battling w/splash or noise):


567 JOIK men and women talking and laughing //594 1236UT
594 JOAK as above //567 1238UT
774 JOUB woman in Japanese 1332UT; underneath was a man talking //612 for 3LO.
891 JOHK pips, then man mentioning NHK //594 which was weaker, 1300-01UT
972 HLCA man in Korean 1234UT
1053 Korean jammer 1235UT

not so reasonable audio, occasional words or phrases in splash or 
noise could be understood by a native speaker:


747 JOIK man in Japanese //828 1235UT
837 JOQK woman and man in Japanese //594 1302UT
1134 JOQR assumed w/rock music, male vocal sounded Japanese 1254UT, 
chimes and pip on hour mostly buried by splash.

1287 JOHR man and woman in Japanese 1302UT


Burbles in the splatter and noise (if lucky, language might be 
guessed at by cadence of talk, or parallel established by changes in 
talk or music)


531 man mumbling across the hour 1300UT
612 4QR woman and man, news?, DU English inflection, 1301UT
846 NHK1 man talking //567, 1253UT, a bit of  a dig to hear this.
1098 man mumbling 1252UT
1323 woman talking 1247UT



Strongish het, no or "near imaginary" audio (either undermodulated 
or ravaged by splatter)


702 864 873 918 1107 1215 1269 1386 1422



best wishes,

Nick

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[IRCA] TP 4 Apr Victoria version

[Nick Hall-Patch]

A considerably better than expected morning, though with lots of 
splash, and the bulk of the lift was just before 1300UT rather than later



pretty darn good audio (all of it understandable by a native speaker, 
at least briefly):


828 JOBB  1244UT, English lessons.
1566 HLAZ woman in Japanese 1244UT



Reasonable audio  at  times during the period (much of it 
understandable by a native speaker, though often battling w/splash or noise):


567 JOIK men and women talking and laughing //594 1236UT
594 JOAK as above //567 1238UT
774 JOUB woman in Japanese 1332UT; underneath was a man talking //612 for 3LO.
891 JOHK pips, then man mentioning NHK //594 which was weaker, 1300-01UT
972 HLCA man in Korean 1234UT
1053 Korean jammer 1235UT

not so reasonable audio, occasional words or phrases in splash or 
noise could be understood by a native speaker:


747 JOIK man in Japanese //828 1235UT
837 JOQK woman and man in Japanese //594 1302UT
1134 JOQR assumed w/rock music, male vocal sounded Japanese 1254UT, 
chimes and pip on hour mostly buried by splash.

1287 JOHR man and woman in Japanese 1302UT


Burbles in the splatter and noise (if lucky, language might be 
guessed at by cadence of talk, or parallel established by changes in 
talk or music)


531 man mumbling across the hour 1300UT
612 4QR woman and man, news?, DU English inflection, 1301UT
846 NHK1 man talking //567, 1253UT, a bit of  a dig to hear this.
1098 man mumbling 1252UT
1323 woman talking 1247UT



Strongish het, no or "near imaginary" audio (either undermodulated or 
ravaged by splatter)


702 864 873 918 1107 1215 1269 1386 1422



best wishes,

Nick

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Re: [IRCA] 1152 at 15:00 this morning

[Chuck Hutton]

Nick:

1269 appears in our Nick-Chuck-Bruce 2014 Grayland DXpedition report.

Yes, a coastal report would be nice. I've collected all the logs from Gary, 
Bill W and myself with the intent of adding a sheet to the Grayland Master Log 
and making it into a NW Coastal Log. When will it happen? Not real soon, as I 
haven't even gotten around to listening to most of my DX from 2015, including 3 
Rockworks trips plus a Grayland trip. 

Chuck


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Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 1:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1152 at 15:00 this morning

Thanks for pointing that out Chuck.  Your contributions are always helpful.

It is difficult to keep track of all these, as the Grayland Master
Log references only two loggings of 558 in 20 years, the last in
2013.I wasn't aware it had been logged so frequently since then,
hence my use of the adjective "rare" on the coast.   I think we had
more than two loggings of 558 from the infrequent visits to Jordan
River in the 80s, plus the logging in town using the laughable tuned
loop.  558 has not particularly become a more difficult frequency
here, and the Flags and SDR techniques are a great improvement on
what I was using then.

1152 is an interesting addition in recent years, as I know Bill has
logged it at least 3 times in that period.   That wasn't heard in
earlier years to my recollection, though may be the product of our
Drift Net DXing techniques using SDRs.

1269 I'm afraid is the stuff of legend in any references I can find
right now, as is "etc".   I know Patrick Martin heard 6XM-1188 a
number of years ago, and it was heard once at Sans Souci in 2013.

I like Walt's idea of a coastal reference.   Do I like it enough to
do the work?   We'll see.   The Grayland Master Log is certainly an
excellent starting point.

best wishes,

Nick



At 18:02 05-04-16, you wrote:
>Nick must have missed my post about logs of Western Australia on
>558, 1152, 1269, 1188 etc in the last few years.
>
>Walt: Sorry about the sad state of the Grayland Master Log. I've
>done  little updating of it since we stopped having group
>DXpeditions to Grayland about 6 years ago.
>
>Chuck
>
>
>From: IRCA  on behalf of Nick
>Hall-Patch 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 5:49 PM
>To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1152 at 15:00 this morning
>
>I know that the ABC W. Australia stations on 531 and 558  have been
>heard in Victoria using an unamplified tuned box loop antenna
>(indoors; predates computers obviously, but within living memory),
>but neither are heard now, and even on the coast are rare.
>
>But Bill Whitacre has heard 1152 in the last
>year:  http://realmonitor.com/am_logs_grayland12.php
>also hearing BBC, so unless someone else on that channel has started
>BBC broadcasts...
>
>best wishes,
>
>Nick
>
>
>At 05:09 04-04-16, you wrote:
> >Good point.  I'm waiting to be proven wrong that I indeed heard Western
> >Australia, which is an extremely rare event.  I do remember Patrick Martin
> >mentioning that he heard Western Australia (and Australia in general) in
> >years past much more easy than we do today, for whatever reason, and that
> >Asians were less common compared to today.  I'd like to know if that
> >station has been heard on the west coast or not.  It's not in the Grayland
> >Master list, in any case.   73,...Walt
> >
> >On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:00 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> >walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 2WG is owned by Southern Cross Austereo and a commercial broadcasters..
> > >
> > > 6*PB Brusselton *is listed as National, which means it is an
> ABC station. I
> > > don't see why a commercial station would be carrying the BBCWS.
> > >
> > > Source:
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.acma.gov.au/~/media/Licence%20Issue%20and%20Allocation/Publication/pdf/TVRadio_Handbook_radio_3%20pdf.pdf
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:51 PM, Walter Salmaniw  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Now that I'm at home, I had a quick listen to 1152 over the
> TOH at 15:00.
> > > > It carried the BBCWS.   There was no TOH ID.  Looking at PAL,
> I seriously
> > > > think that this has to be 6PNN from Busselton, Western
> Australia, running
> > > > 10 kW, and part of the ABC NewsRadio network.  It's harder to find
> > > > information on 2WG, especially for the overnight period.  Newstalk ZB
> > > has a
> > > > useful play again feature, and it's not them.  So, please
> confirm.  I'm a
> > > > very happy camper with this logging!
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Re: [IRCA] 1152 at 15:00 this morning

[Nick Hall-Patch]

Thanks for pointing that out Chuck.  Your contributions are always helpful.

It is difficult to keep track of all these, as the Grayland Master 
Log references only two loggings of 558 in 20 years, the last in 
2013.I wasn't aware it had been logged so frequently since then, 
hence my use of the adjective "rare" on the coast.   I think we had 
more than two loggings of 558 from the infrequent visits to Jordan 
River in the 80s, plus the logging in town using the laughable tuned 
loop.  558 has not particularly become a more difficult frequency 
here, and the Flags and SDR techniques are a great improvement on 
what I was using then.


1152 is an interesting addition in recent years, as I know Bill has 
logged it at least 3 times in that period.   That wasn't heard in 
earlier years to my recollection, though may be the product of our 
Drift Net DXing techniques using SDRs.


1269 I'm afraid is the stuff of legend in any references I can find 
right now, as is "etc".   I know Patrick Martin heard 6XM-1188 a 
number of years ago, and it was heard once at Sans Souci in 2013.


I like Walt's idea of a coastal reference.   Do I like it enough to 
do the work?   We'll see.   The Grayland Master Log is certainly an 
excellent starting point.


best wishes,

Nick



At 18:02 05-04-16, you wrote:
Nick must have missed my post about logs of Western Australia on 
558, 1152, 1269, 1188 etc in the last few years.


Walt: Sorry about the sad state of the Grayland Master Log. I've 
done  little updating of it since we stopped having group 
DXpeditions to Grayland about 6 years ago.


Chuck


From: IRCA  on behalf of Nick 
Hall-Patch 

Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 5:49 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1152 at 15:00 this morning

I know that the ABC W. Australia stations on 531 and 558  have been
heard in Victoria using an unamplified tuned box loop antenna
(indoors; predates computers obviously, but within living memory),
but neither are heard now, and even on the coast are rare.

But Bill Whitacre has heard 1152 in the last
year:  http://realmonitor.com/am_logs_grayland12.php
also hearing BBC, so unless someone else on that channel has started
BBC broadcasts...

best wishes,

Nick


At 05:09 04-04-16, you wrote:
>Good point.  I'm waiting to be proven wrong that I indeed heard Western
>Australia, which is an extremely rare event.  I do remember Patrick Martin
>mentioning that he heard Western Australia (and Australia in general) in
>years past much more easy than we do today, for whatever reason, and that
>Asians were less common compared to today.  I'd like to know if that
>station has been heard on the west coast or not.  It's not in the Grayland
>Master list, in any case.   73,...Walt
>
>On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:00 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
>walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 2WG is owned by Southern Cross Austereo and a commercial broadcasters.
> >
> > 6*PB Brusselton *is listed as National, which means it is an 
ABC station. I

> > don't see why a commercial station would be carrying the BBCWS.
> >
> > Source:
> >
> >
> 
http://www.acma.gov.au/~/media/Licence%20Issue%20and%20Allocation/Publication/pdf/TVRadio_Handbook_radio_3%20pdf.pdf

> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:51 PM, Walter Salmaniw  wrote:
> >
> > > Now that I'm at home, I had a quick listen to 1152 over the 
TOH at 15:00.
> > > It carried the BBCWS.   There was no TOH ID.  Looking at PAL, 
I seriously
> > > think that this has to be 6PNN from Busselton, Western 
Australia, running

> > > 10 kW, and part of the ABC NewsRadio network.  It's harder to find
> > > information on 2WG, especially for the overnight period.  Newstalk ZB
> > has a
> > > useful play again feature, and it's not them.  So, please 
confirm.  I'm a

> > > very happy camper with this logging!
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[IRCA] WWV Solar Report

[NOAA WWV]

:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt
:Issued: 2016 Apr 06 0005 UTC
# Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Weather Prediction Center
#
#  Geophysical Alert Message
#
Solar-terrestrial indices for 05 April follow.
Solar flux 83 and estimated planetary A-index 5.
The estimated planetary K-index at  UTC on 06 April was 1.
No space weather storms were observed for the past 24 hours.
No space weather storms are predicted for the next 24 hours.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Trends -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Date 04   04   04   04   04   05   05   05   05   05   05   05   05   06
UTC  0900 1200 1500 1800 2100  0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100 
SFlx 82   82   82   82   83   83   83   83   83   83   83   83   83   83
A-in 15   15   15   15   7777777765
K-in 12201121112121
Current Solar information available at http://www.am-dx.com/wwv.htm



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[IRCA] TP DX in Seattle on April 5

[Bruce Portzer]

Today's conditions weren't bad for April but they weren't good either.   
Reception was limited to some of the regulars, mostly in the lower 
reaches of the band.


GOOD
594JOAK, Japanese woman, then man 1310
693JOAB, 1312 Korean lesson
972HLCA, 1238 man in Korean

FAIR
747JOIB, English lesson 1257, good signal but much electrical noise
774JOUB, 1255 English lesson, more domestic splatter than usual today
890KBBI, legal ID 1259 u/CJDC, then inst music & Democracy Now program
1566HLAZ, Japanese talk 1239

POOR
828JOBB, English lesson 1257, time pips 1300
891JOHK, time pips weak in domestic splatter 1300
1323Presumed CRI, flute music, good carrier 1257 but shallow 
modulation, nothing heard at ToH

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[IRCA] WWV Solar Report

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:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt
:Issued: 2016 Apr 05 1805 UTC
# Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Weather Prediction Center
#
#  Geophysical Alert Message
#
Solar-terrestrial indices for 04 April follow.
Solar flux 83 and estimated planetary A-index 7.
The estimated planetary K-index at 1800 UTC on 05 April was 1.
No space weather storms were observed for the past 24 hours.
No space weather storms are predicted for the next 24 hours.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Trends -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Date 04   04   04   04   04   04   04   05   05   05   05   05   05   05
UTC  0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100  0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800
SFlx 82   82   82   82   82   82   83   83   83   83   83   83   83   83
A-in 15   15   15   15   15   15   77777777
K-in 33122011211121
Current Solar information available at http://www.am-dx.com/wwv.htm



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[IRCA] Laptop for Elad FDM-S2 Use

[Les Rayburn]

I could use some advice on computers from those more experienced. 

I have a Sony Viao laptop that I’d like to use as the primary computer with my 
Elad FDM-S2. My primary interest is in recording as much of the FM band as 
possible in I/Q mode during openings. My plan is to install an external 4TB USB 
hard drive, and save recordings to that disc for later review. 

I also sometimes use an AirSpy SDR for the same purpose. 

The laptop is an Intel i7 CUP @1.73 GHz.
6 GB RAM
Windows 7 Home Premium with Service Pack 1
64 Bit OS

Would this computer suffice, or do I need something better for the effort? 




73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 
EM63nf

Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA. 

Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook 
Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. 


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Re: [IRCA] AM Revitalization: From Hard Facts to Whimsical Fantasy

[coffee_canuck]

Thanks Charles, your direct and to the point observations always appreciated. 

Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC

> On Apr 5, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Chuck Hutton  wrote:
> 
> Come on, Colin. If streaming was really that bad, no one would do it.
> Perhaps you have a local problem. While you fix it, I'll continue listening 
> to my streaming all day.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 08:37:38 -0700
>> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
>> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] AM Revitalization: From Hard Facts to Whimsical Fantasy
>> 
>> I have a Wifi radio as well - never use it. I can find an interesting
>> stream and listen to it for 10 or 15 minutes
>> then it either vanishes or the radio needs to be re-booted
>> 
>> Streaming is the same - it is sort of live and often delayed 10 to 15s or
>> more and it's pathway to you is exceedingly fragile.
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Re: [IRCA] AM Revitalization: From Hard Facts to Whimsical Fantasy

[Rick Lewis]

Colin, 
We stream mainly oldies, but a few other specialized shows, 24/7, and
usually it's trouble-free.
And as good as a local FM station would sound.
Been doing Internet radio for more than 12 years, and running my own station
for nearly eight of them.
Yes, problems can occur, (we had a five-week period when Comcast would get
choppy during nighttime hours), and sometimes there are other Internet
issues, but I'd say it works well more than 95 percent of the time.
As Chuck indicates, , your experience isn't typical. 
It might be partially due to instability of the stations you select, your
wireless network, or you could be trying to listen to AAC+ streams on a WiFi
radio that does mp3.
But your experience should be better.
I'd first try listening to streams that are specifically mp3.
(In this increasingly mobile world, many stations are using AAC+, which is
iPhone-friendly, but may not be compatible with your Internet device..)
--
Rick

-Original Message-
From: IRCA [mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hutton
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 12:06 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America

Subject: Re: [IRCA] AM Revitalization: From Hard Facts to Whimsical Fantasy

Come on, Colin. If streaming was really that bad, no one would do it.
Perhaps you have a local problem. While you fix it, I'll continue listening
to my streaming all day.

Chuck




> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 08:37:38 -0700
> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] AM Revitalization: From Hard Facts to Whimsical 
> Fantasy
>
> I have a Wifi radio as well - never use it. I can find an interesting 
> stream and listen to it for 10 or 15 minutes then it either vanishes 
> or the radio needs to be re-booted
>
> Streaming is the same - it is sort of live and often delayed 10 to 15s 
> or more and it's pathway to you is exceedingly fragile.
>
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Re: [IRCA] AM Revitalization: From Hard Facts to Whimsical Fantasy

[Chuck Hutton]

Come on, Colin. If streaming was really that bad, no one would do it.
Perhaps you have a local problem. While you fix it, I'll continue listening to 
my streaming all day.

Chuck




> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 08:37:38 -0700
> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] AM Revitalization: From Hard Facts to Whimsical Fantasy
>
> I have a Wifi radio as well - never use it. I can find an interesting
> stream and listen to it for 10 or 15 minutes
> then it either vanishes or the radio needs to be re-booted
>
> Streaming is the same - it is sort of live and often delayed 10 to 15s or
> more and it's pathway to you is exceedingly fragile.
>
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Re: [IRCA] AM Revitalization: From Hard Facts to Whimsical Fantasy

[Patrick Martin]

Colin,

Streaming works great here. Maybe it is the rural area or my speed (60+), but I 
rarely have trouble with it. The house is wifi'd and both Jeremy & I use it all 
of the time. Live radio is fine for DXing, but not to my taste in listening any 
longer. Few choices here and distant reception is plagued with too much noise 
and fading for my liking. I am spoiled with streaming. 

Mark,

Radio is not dead, but in many areas it is dying, especially AM. FM has still 
some energy left. At least for a few years. If it wasn't that FM was pretty 
much noise free, it would be on the chopping block too. Add to that IBOC with 
several streams. But I stream a lot here and it is great. On occasion there is 
a glitch, but they are few and far between. I was listening to 2GB streaming 
this morning while lying in bed. 

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 08:37:38 -0700
> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] AM Revitalization: From Hard Facts to Whimsical Fantasy
> 
> I have a Wifi radio as well - never use it. I can find an interesting
> stream and listen to it for 10 or 15 minutes
> then it either vanishes or the radio needs to be re-booted.
> 
> One of the reason why I never got on the SDR bandwagon - recording the
> entire spectrum while you are sleeping
> and then "DXing" when you get around to it, is not DXing - it is more like
> "Binge watching the Soprano's" on Netflix.
> 
> If it ain't live, it ain't DXing...
> 
> Streaming is the same - it is sort of live and often delayed 10 to 15s or
> more and it's pathway to you is exceedingly fragile.
> 
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> 
> >  I can log 2GB in Sydney NSW, but streaming I can listen to it 24/7 with
> > no static or fading. It sounds like I am living in Sydney. DXing will
> > always be a love of mine, but for pure listening the internet has opened a
> > door that years ago I could not even imagined. Now with the Roku, I can do
> > the same with TV. More and more of it is becoming available.
> >
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
> > KGED QSL Manager
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: [IRCA] 1152 at 15:00 this morning

[Walter Salmaniw]

Chuck, it's a valuable resource (the Master List), as it allows for a quick
verification of likely targets, and would decrease the number of unids and
tentative logs.  In Masset, I have it open, along with PAL as the go-to
resource, since I don't have live internet available to me.   73,Walt

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Chuck Hutton  wrote:

> Nick must have missed my post about logs of Western Australia on 558,
> 1152, 1269, 1188 etc in the last few years.
>
> Walt: Sorry about the sad state of the Grayland Master Log. I've done
> little updating of it since we stopped having group DXpeditions to Grayland
> about 6 years ago.
>
> Chuck
>
> 
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Nick Hall-Patch <
> n...@ieee.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 5:49 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1152 at 15:00 this morning
>
> I know that the ABC W. Australia stations on 531 and 558  have been
> heard in Victoria using an unamplified tuned box loop antenna
> (indoors; predates computers obviously, but within living memory),
> but neither are heard now, and even on the coast are rare.
>
> But Bill Whitacre has heard 1152 in the last
> year:  http://realmonitor.com/am_logs_grayland12.php
> also hearing BBC, so unless someone else on that channel has started
> BBC broadcasts...
>
> best wishes,
>
> Nick
>
>
> At 05:09 04-04-16, you wrote:
> >Good point.  I'm waiting to be proven wrong that I indeed heard Western
> >Australia, which is an extremely rare event.  I do remember Patrick Martin
> >mentioning that he heard Western Australia (and Australia in general) in
> >years past much more easy than we do today, for whatever reason, and that
> >Asians were less common compared to today.  I'd like to know if that
> >station has been heard on the west coast or not.  It's not in the Grayland
> >Master list, in any case.   73,...Walt
> >
> >On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:00 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> >walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 2WG is owned by Southern Cross Austereo and a commercial broadcasters.
> > >
> > > 6*PB Brusselton *is listed as National, which means it is an ABC
> station. I
> > > don't see why a commercial station would be carrying the BBCWS.
> > >
> > > Source:
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.acma.gov.au/~/media/Licence%20Issue%20and%20Allocation/Publication/pdf/TVRadio_Handbook_radio_3%20pdf.pdf
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:51 PM, Walter Salmaniw 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Now that I'm at home, I had a quick listen to 1152 over the TOH at
> 15:00.
> > > > It carried the BBCWS.   There was no TOH ID.  Looking at PAL, I
> seriously
> > > > think that this has to be 6PNN from Busselton, Western Australia,
> running
> > > > 10 kW, and part of the ABC NewsRadio network.  It's harder to find
> > > > information on 2WG, especially for the overnight period.  Newstalk ZB
> > > has a
> > > > useful play again feature, and it's not them.  So, please confirm.
> I'm a
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Re: [IRCA] 1152 at 15:00 this morning

[Chuck Hutton]

Nick must have missed my post about logs of Western Australia on 558, 1152, 
1269, 1188 etc in the last few years.

Walt: Sorry about the sad state of the Grayland Master Log. I've done  little 
updating of it since we stopped having group DXpeditions to Grayland about 6 
years ago.

Chuck


From: IRCA  on behalf of Nick Hall-Patch 

Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 5:49 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1152 at 15:00 this morning

I know that the ABC W. Australia stations on 531 and 558  have been
heard in Victoria using an unamplified tuned box loop antenna
(indoors; predates computers obviously, but within living memory),
but neither are heard now, and even on the coast are rare.

But Bill Whitacre has heard 1152 in the last
year:  http://realmonitor.com/am_logs_grayland12.php
also hearing BBC, so unless someone else on that channel has started
BBC broadcasts...

best wishes,

Nick


At 05:09 04-04-16, you wrote:
>Good point.  I'm waiting to be proven wrong that I indeed heard Western
>Australia, which is an extremely rare event.  I do remember Patrick Martin
>mentioning that he heard Western Australia (and Australia in general) in
>years past much more easy than we do today, for whatever reason, and that
>Asians were less common compared to today.  I'd like to know if that
>station has been heard on the west coast or not.  It's not in the Grayland
>Master list, in any case.   73,...Walt
>
>On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:00 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
>walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 2WG is owned by Southern Cross Austereo and a commercial broadcasters.
> >
> > 6*PB Brusselton *is listed as National, which means it is an ABC station. I
> > don't see why a commercial station would be carrying the BBCWS.
> >
> > Source:
> >
> >
> http://www.acma.gov.au/~/media/Licence%20Issue%20and%20Allocation/Publication/pdf/TVRadio_Handbook_radio_3%20pdf.pdf
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:51 PM, Walter Salmaniw  wrote:
> >
> > > Now that I'm at home, I had a quick listen to 1152 over the TOH at 15:00.
> > > It carried the BBCWS.   There was no TOH ID.  Looking at PAL, I seriously
> > > think that this has to be 6PNN from Busselton, Western Australia, running
> > > 10 kW, and part of the ABC NewsRadio network.  It's harder to find
> > > information on 2WG, especially for the overnight period.  Newstalk ZB
> > has a
> > > useful play again feature, and it's not them.  So, please confirm.  I'm a
> > > very happy camper with this logging!
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Re: [IRCA] 1152 at 15:00 this morning

[Walter Salmaniw]

Yes, Bill did hear them.  I guess I wish there was some sort of "central
list" of what TPs have been heard anywhere along the west coast.  The
Grayland Master List is a marvelous resource.  I did check it, and there
was no mention of the W Australian on 1152.  I guess it would be a huge job
to maintain that list.  I think it was Chuck Hutton who created the Master
List in the first place.  My kudos go out to him!  73,Walt

On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Nick Hall-Patch  wrote:

> I know that the ABC W. Australia stations on 531 and 558  have been heard
> in Victoria using an unamplified tuned box loop antenna (indoors; predates
> computers obviously, but within living memory), but neither are heard now,
> and even on the coast are rare.
>
> But Bill Whitacre has heard 1152 in the last year:
> http://realmonitor.com/am_logs_grayland12.php
> also hearing BBC, so unless someone else on that channel has started BBC
> broadcasts...
>
> best wishes,
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> At 05:09 04-04-16, you wrote:
>
>> Good point.  I'm waiting to be proven wrong that I indeed heard Western
>> Australia, which is an extremely rare event.  I do remember Patrick Martin
>> mentioning that he heard Western Australia (and Australia in general) in
>> years past much more easy than we do today, for whatever reason, and that
>> Asians were less common compared to today.  I'd like to know if that
>> station has been heard on the west coast or not.  It's not in the Grayland
>> Master list, in any case.   73,...Walt
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:00 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
>> walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > 2WG is owned by Southern Cross Austereo and a commercial broadcasters.
>> >
>> > 6*PB Brusselton *is listed as National, which means it is an ABC
>> station. I
>> > don't see why a commercial station would be carrying the BBCWS.
>> >
>> > Source:
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.acma.gov.au/~/media/Licence%20Issue%20and%20Allocation/Publication/pdf/TVRadio_Handbook_radio_3%20pdf.pdf
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:51 PM, Walter Salmaniw 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Now that I'm at home, I had a quick listen to 1152 over the TOH at
>> 15:00.
>> > > It carried the BBCWS.   There was no TOH ID.  Looking at PAL, I
>> seriously
>> > > think that this has to be 6PNN from Busselton, Western Australia,
>> running
>> > > 10 kW, and part of the ABC NewsRadio network.  It's harder to find
>> > > information on 2WG, especially for the overnight period.  Newstalk ZB
>> > has a
>> > > useful play again feature, and it's not them.  So, please confirm.
>> I'm a
>> > > very happy camper with this logging!
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Re: [IRCA] 1152 at 15:00 this morning

[Nick Hall-Patch]

I know that the ABC W. Australia stations on 531 and 558  have been 
heard in Victoria using an unamplified tuned box loop antenna 
(indoors; predates computers obviously, but within living memory), 
but neither are heard now, and even on the coast are rare.


But Bill Whitacre has heard 1152 in the last 
year:  http://realmonitor.com/am_logs_grayland12.php
also hearing BBC, so unless someone else on that channel has started 
BBC broadcasts...


best wishes,

Nick


At 05:09 04-04-16, you wrote:

Good point.  I'm waiting to be proven wrong that I indeed heard Western
Australia, which is an extremely rare event.  I do remember Patrick Martin
mentioning that he heard Western Australia (and Australia in general) in
years past much more easy than we do today, for whatever reason, and that
Asians were less common compared to today.  I'd like to know if that
station has been heard on the west coast or not.  It's not in the Grayland
Master list, in any case.   73,...Walt

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:00 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2WG is owned by Southern Cross Austereo and a commercial broadcasters.
>
> 6*PB Brusselton *is listed as National, which means it is an ABC station. I
> don't see why a commercial station would be carrying the BBCWS.
>
> Source:
>
> 
http://www.acma.gov.au/~/media/Licence%20Issue%20and%20Allocation/Publication/pdf/TVRadio_Handbook_radio_3%20pdf.pdf

>
> Paul
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:51 PM, Walter Salmaniw  wrote:
>
> > Now that I'm at home, I had a quick listen to 1152 over the TOH at 15:00.
> > It carried the BBCWS.   There was no TOH ID.  Looking at PAL, I seriously
> > think that this has to be 6PNN from Busselton, Western Australia, running
> > 10 kW, and part of the ABC NewsRadio network.  It's harder to find
> > information on 2WG, especially for the overnight period.  Newstalk ZB
> has a
> > useful play again feature, and it's not them.  So, please confirm.  I'm a
> > very happy camper with this logging!
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Re: [IRCA] AM Revitalization: From Hard Facts to Whimsical Fantasy

[R. Colin Newell]

I have a Wifi radio as well - never use it. I can find an interesting
stream and listen to it for 10 or 15 minutes
then it either vanishes or the radio needs to be re-booted.

One of the reason why I never got on the SDR bandwagon - recording the
entire spectrum while you are sleeping
and then "DXing" when you get around to it, is not DXing - it is more like
"Binge watching the Soprano's" on Netflix.

If it ain't live, it ain't DXing...

Streaming is the same - it is sort of live and often delayed 10 to 15s or
more and it's pathway to you is exceedingly fragile.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:

>  I can log 2GB in Sydney NSW, but streaming I can listen to it 24/7 with
> no static or fading. It sounds like I am living in Sydney. DXing will
> always be a love of mine, but for pure listening the internet has opened a
> door that years ago I could not even imagined. Now with the Roku, I can do
> the same with TV. More and more of it is becoming available.
>
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
> KGED QSL Manager
>
>
>


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Re: [IRCA] AM Revitalization: From Hard Facts to Whimsical Fantasy

[Mark Connelly via IRCA]

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Country music is surprisingly popular with young people too and radio still 
factors in there as well.  Today's country scene has a lot of performers in the 
18-34 age group and many fans that age too.  Even in Boston, in former years a 
weak country market, there are two well-rated country stations (101.7, 102.5).  
A younger audience has fuelled much of that.


Same thing applies to hip-hop / urban / R&B / dance music.  Boston's 94.5, 
96.9, and 107.9 have a significant listener base.


Internet access in a mobile environment is still not a 100% reliable option nor 
is it necessarily free / cheap.


Even at the office, lab, workshop, etc. PC-based online options such as Pandora 
might not be available since employers often block entertainment sites.  Of 
course music listening via cellphone, iPod, etc. remains on the table but radio 
is still well represented in workplace music listening.  Sometimes you want 
some news, weather, sports, and stock market information in the mix.


So radio in general is still alive across most demographics but that's mostly 
FM.


AM is still in for a bumpy ride no matter how you slice it.  High electrical 
noise levels are part of the problem.  Lower fidelity than FM factors in too.  
But the biggest problem, in my estimation, is programming that ranges from 
bland and boring to irrelevant through silly to downright offensive.  Very 
little either to engage the mind or to make you want to dance.  "My candidate's 
better than your candidate" / "My God's better than your God" / "My team's 
better than your team" gets a little stale after a while.


Mark Connelly, WA1ION
South Yarmouth, MA


<<
Well said sir!


Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC


> On Apr 4, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Rick Dau  wrote:
> 
> I wouldn't say young people NEVER listen to radiothey certainly listen to 
> FM. After all, young people like their modern pop musicAriana Grande, 
> Justin Bieber, Fetty Wap, Bruno Mars, Meghan Traynor, and the rest. And how 
> else are they going to discover new artists whose music they'll listen to, 
> then decide they like it, and then download it? Radio breaks these talents to 
> the masses, and that's something that hasn't changed over the years, even if 
> Casey Kasem is no longer here to do the job. 
> 
> 73,
> Rick Dau
> South Omaha, Nebraska 
>>
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Re: [IRCA] AM Revitalization: From Hard Facts to Whimsical Fantasy

[Patrick Martin]

Les,

It is interesting you mentioned how young people get new music. You are right. 
I just asked Jeremy who lives with me (kind of like an adopted son), who is 
nearly 21. His answer was he gets new music from Pandora and other sites. As 
soon as a new song or album comes out, it streams and he can listen to it. Many 
sites offer the music for free and others you can buy the new album. For years 
now if I want  pop, standards, ethnic, K-Pop, J-Pop, German, French, Russian, 
you name it, it is all on You Tube. My old Dodge Caravan has cassette so audio 
out on the computer to audio in on the cassette deck. With my new Caravan, it 
has CD, or MP3, so I can either record to a CD from You Tube or to an MP3 
player. I rarely buy music these days. It is all online somewhere.

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> From: l...@highnoonfilm.com
> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 01:31:24 -0500
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] AM Revitalization: From Hard Facts to Whimsical Fantasy
> 
> I think it’s difficult for those of us who are a certain age (I’m 54) to 
> understand that young people don’t learn about new music the same way that we 
> did. Their main exposure to new artists now is via social media. A friend 
> discovers the artist by seeing them live, catching them on YouTube, a free 
> preview on I-Tunes, or a hundred other ways—then they share them with their 
> friends on social media. 
> 
> I’m a TV Commercial Director by profession. Years ago, if you wanted original 
> music, especially a real song with lyrics, etc. to be used in your 
> commercial, it was expensive. But now, I can find a real song from a largely 
> unknown artist or band, and license it quickly and easily for this use. Why 
> would an artist want to do this? Exposure. Kids see it (often on YouTube, 
> Instagram, etc) and then do a quick search to find out who the artist is. 
> Next thing you know, the song is being downloaded like crazy. 
> 
> Radio is no longer the gatekeeper medium for introducing new musical artists. 
> 
> If it’s going to survive, it must embrace content that caters to it’s 
> strengths. For the time being, that is likely to be more talk, more live 
> programming, and a LOT more locally produced content. Especially on AM. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL 
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> 
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