Re: [IRCA] EUROTRIP 2017 - PART 1

[Mark Connelly via IRCA]

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Pete, good to see some logs pertinent to this side of the country.

My comments are prefaced by *** and are inserted below.

Mark Connelly, WA1ION
South Yarmouth, MA

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My wife, my DX-398, one of Gary DeBock?s FSL antennas and I all hopped on the 
MS Rotterdam out of Boston on August 2 for a 38 day excursion. Ports visited 
were Bar Harbor ME, Sydney NS, Corner Brook & Red Bay NL, Qaqortoq Greenland, 
Reykjavik Iceland, Aalesund, Bergen & Eidfjord Norway, Rotterdam Netherlands, 
Dublin Ireland, Liverpool England, Isle of Man, Isle of Skye, Djupivogur, 
Akureyri & Isafjord Iceland, Nanortalik Greenland, St. Anthony & St. John?s NL 
and Halifax NS and then back to Boston, where we stayed in Woburn.

Considerations: (1) our cabin was on the port side so that was helpful for 
about half the trip; (2) most DXing was done daytime up to 10:30LT at night. 
When you are losing an hour frequently, when your wife gets sick and when you 
are tired from a lot of tours, you are not prone to get up at 4 to DX - the 
point being, when we were east of Greenland, I wasn?t up to catch U.S. TAs. 
Also, some nights it was just too cold, windy and wet to DX outside; (3) the 
FSL is a marvelous piece of equipment. However, it is indeed directional, and 
since I was surrounded by metal on three sides, I couldn?t always use it to 
best advantage. What I needed to do was sit on the stern with a Lazy Susan; and 
(4) there is not a lot of exciting DX in here. That?s because anyone at the 
same location would receive the same stations I did; there were no skips and no 
distance records were set. I have purposely omitted the non-real DX regularly 
heard megastations, Spaniards, BBC, Talksport and Absolute bigg
ies because they are obvious. However, it was fun, and that?s what hobbies are 
all about.

Loggings are split because of size. This is Part 1:

IN NORTH AMERICA (EDT)
549 - AA teletalk, leaving St. John?s NL,
*** Algeria, often ton o' bricks here.  ID "Jil FM".  531 is parallel and 
usually 5-10 dB weaker.
570 - Nuuk only fair 7p 8/8 as we entered Qaqortoq, Greenland
590 - VOCM St. John?s. VOCM heard promoting its return to a heavy new coverage 
around the province. Its newscasts were heard at one time or another on 570 590 
620 650 710 740 870 (1010 (probably an image) 1230 1240. These are not reported 
separately below but were all heard.
*** The VOCM net stations on 570 and 650 are fairly common here on east loop.  
590 is in the mix with WEZE, HIDV, Rebelde, and WARM.
600 - CBNA St. Anthony NL. I thought this was a low power CBC repeater in Red 
Bay because it faded out fairly quickly when we headed north. I then looked at 
a map?
*** 540, 640, 990 NL and 1140 NS are all easily heard CBC parallels to 600.
720 - Simiutaq, Greenland semilocal in Nanotalik 9/2 8a, //95.0. (NOTE: 650 
never heard)
*** 720 the only Greenland heard in the US in the last 10 years.  Heard here in 
MA a few times.  High latitude conditions have to be very good.  
729/738 - RNE R. Nacional, //, 7p 8/8 approaching Qaqortoq (RNE)
*** Noted here frequently.  // 855 which is even louder.
900 - AA 9/5 7:05p leaving St. John?s NL
*** 900 Saudi, heard once by me in the car at the Boston waterfront and, of 
course, a regular on PEI and Newfie DXpeditions.
980 - WCAP (oldies) w/very strong het (Algiers presuming) nearly NF, 8p 9/5
981 - AA teletalk, entering Qaqortoq 9:40p 8/8 (Algiers presumed)
*** 981 Algeria a biggie here, often clobbering the typical 980 WCAP / WOFX / 
WTEM / Cuba / Colombia / Brazil imbroglio around sunset.
1089 - TalkSport on top of WBAL 8/8 9p approaching Qaqortoq
*** Beating WBAL strength pretty often here on Cape Cod too, especially over 
the Chatham-Orleans area.
1100 - WHLI Hempstead even w/WTAM 9/12 8:25p from Woburn. On a little late?
*** This has happened occasionally, yes.  Most nights WHLI goes off at sunset 
per plan, leaving Brazil versus Colombia shoot-out before WTAM fades up to 
enter the fray.
1110 - SS even with WBT in Red Bay NL, 10p 8/6. Presumed Venezuela
1110 - SS, what sounded like R. Cinco, 6:50p 9/5, leaving St. John?s NL
*** Most common 1110 Spanish under WBT these days has been Radio Angulo from 
Cuba, // 740.  Venezuela (Carupano) used to be a blowtorch but not heard by any 
US DXers for quite a while - off or downgraded in power?  NL DXpeditions have 
had Argentina on 1110 so don't discount that.
1160 - WVNJ Oakland NJ (local talk) and UNID NH station (c) even many nights 
in Woburn 9/9-12.
*** C is WSKW Skowhegan, ME; talk is WVNJ as you note.  The third major 1160 
player here is WOBM NJ with oldies.  Little else on the channel besides those 
three unless it gets crazy-auroral and Antigua and Puerto Rico sneak in.  
Bermuda 1160 is off (or at least very irregular in schedule) as far as I can 
tell.
1200 - WXKS Newton MA (Bloomberg) // WRCA-1330 Watertown. Nothing like a little 
signal overlap (noted in Woburn 9/12)
*** Both of those should get pretty far into the Atlantic before 

Re: [IRCA] EUROTRIP 2017, PART 2

[d1028gary]

Hi Pete, 

Thanks for giving the 3 inch "Frequent Flyer" FSL antenna a very good workout 
during your European cruise. 

Despite the challenges you seem to have done an excellent job in tracking down 
and reporting the North American and European MW-DX stations, including some 
seemingly exotic ones (from the standpoint of a west coast TP/DU DXer). 
Congratulations, and thanks for your efforts! 

Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) 



- Original Message -

From: "Pete Taylor"  
To: "NRC" , "IRCA"  
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 7:21:16 PM 
Subject: [IRCA] EUROTRIP 2017, PART 2 

(continued from Part 1 which specifies locations DXed from) 

IN EUROPE (GMT) 
207 - RUV Eidar weak in Isafjord, 8/30 1400 
252 - RTE1 Summerhill still on despite discussions to take it off (8/23 from 
Dublin) 
351 - “ROT” CW in Rotterdam 
360 - “ASK” CW in Bergen (probably my code misreading) 
531 - Torshavn, Faroes. Weak days in Bergen, unlike when I heard it blasting in 
here 10 years ago and also weak in Douglas, I-O-M 8/26 1700. 
531 - pulsating squelch in Rotterdam. Probably has something to do with the 
port 
540 - loud tone, then carrier off 8/23 2000 from Dublin 
549 - Spirit Radio, Carrickroe only fair in Dublin 8/23 1430//89.9 (or 92.2? 
Lousy notes…) 
558 - AA heard in Rotterdam. Presume Spectrum Radio, London 
576 - RNE5 Barcelona and Vidin, Bulg. even, leaving Rotterdam 1910 8/21 
585 - UNID, weak in Bergen 8/17 1400 
585 - BBC R. Scotland, Dumfries, fair in Liverpool 8/24 0805 
603 - Smooth Radio, Littlebourne, presumed; fair in Rotterdam 8/20 (although it 
sounded like Newsradio to me) 
630 - R. Cornwall, Redruth strong rounding So. Eng. 8/22 1240, //657 Bodmin 
657 - BBC R. Wales, Wrexham, fair in Liverpool 8/24 0810 
666 - RUV Reykjavik is indeed on the air. //88.1. 
684 - RNE Sevilla & UNID AA even, 1900 8/21 in Rotterdam 
711 - AA 2345 entering Qaqortoq 8/8 
711 - R. Romania Actualitati. Nice clean ID w/pips & news 8/21 2100 as we left 
Rotterdam 
720 - BBC4 Lisnagarvey (presumed) good in Rotterdam, 8/20 1845 (don’t know 
where the 2 other 720 low power sins. are) 
729 - BBC Essex, Manningtree (//765) OK Rotterdam 1900 8/20 
756 - BBC R4 Redruth fair, Dublin, 8/23 2015 (//720) 
765 - BBC Essex, Chelmsford (//729) OK Rotterdam about 1900 8/20 
783 - AA 8/18 1930 leaving Eidfjord & 1900 8/21 leaving Rotterdam (Syria?) 
819 - UNID AA 1920 8/21 leaving Rotterdam (Egypt?) 
828 - Wereldstad, Rotterdam, local 8/21 
837 - R. Cumbria, Barrow, semilocal in Dublin, 8/23 1635 
846 - UNID US English, 8/21 1915 leaving Rotterdam. Presumed R. North, 
Redcastle 
855 - R. Norfolk, Postwick, OK in Rotterdam 8/21 1230 
855 - UNID RNE R. Nacional strong rounding So. Eng. 8/22 1245 
873 - R. Norfolk, West Lynn, OK in Rotterdam 8/21 12:30p //855 
900 - RAI fair 1935 8/18 leaving Eidfjord & 1925 8/21 leaving Rotterdam 
954 - Brno, Czechia very good 1935 boat 8/18 leaving Eidfjord 
1062 - squelch sound noted in Rotterdam (harmonic of 531) 
1062 - RAI syncs fair in Dublin 8/23 2025 
1125 - BRTF Wavre strong in FF 8/18 leaving Eidfjord. I think I heard it in 
Flemish at other times 
1368 - R. Manx celebrating its 50th anniversary. Fair in Liverpool 8/24 0815 
1377 - UNID AA 8/21 2015 leaving Rotterdam 
1413 - British EE, 1950 8/8, leaving Eidfjord 
1440 - OC, 8/18 1950, leaving Eidfjord. Weak stn. under 
1485 - BBC R. Merseyside, Wallasey, local in Liverpool 8/24 0845 
1485 - SS 8/22 1240 btw. England/Ireland 
1521 - Flame Radio, Wirral, local in Liverpool 8/24 0910 
1530 - VOA Sao Tome/Principe s/off 10pm boat time, 7hrs from Reykjavik 
1530 - Pulse 2, Huddersfield, fair 8/23 2030 from Dublin 
1566 - Vahon Hindustani, local in Rotterdam. Gets out well. 
1575 - buzz jamming, 1955 8/18, leaving Eidfjord & 8/23 2105 from Dublin 
1593 - UNID FF, rounding So. Eng. 8/22 1250. WRTH says Bretagne 5 is inactive. 
1611 - OC in Bergen, 8/17 1400 
1629 - UNID w/s/off 1935 Leaving Rotterdam 
1647 - UNID leaving Rotterdam 8/21 1940 
1656 - UNID leaving Rotterdam 8/21 1942 


Pete Taylor 
Tacoma, WA 
12225w 4719n 
HQ180 & ICF2010 
Gary DeBock FSL antenna 
Kiwa aircore & Palomar loops 
DX398, SRF-59 & M37V 
Eton E100 + Tecsun PL-300/380 








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[IRCA] EUROTRIP 2017, PART 2

[Pete Taylor]

(continued from Part 1 which specifies locations DXed from)

IN EUROPE (GMT)
207 - RUV Eidar weak in Isafjord, 8/30 1400
252 - RTE1 Summerhill still on despite discussions to take it off (8/23 from 
Dublin)
351 - “ROT” CW in Rotterdam
360 - “ASK” CW in Bergen (probably my code misreading)
531 - Torshavn, Faroes. Weak days in Bergen, unlike when I heard it blasting in 
here 10 years ago and also weak in Douglas, I-O-M 8/26 1700.
531 - pulsating squelch in Rotterdam. Probably has something to do with the port
540 - loud tone, then carrier off 8/23 2000 from Dublin
549 - Spirit Radio, Carrickroe only fair in Dublin 8/23 1430//89.9 (or 92.2? 
Lousy notes…)
558 - AA heard in Rotterdam. Presume Spectrum Radio, London
576 - RNE5 Barcelona and Vidin, Bulg. even, leaving Rotterdam 1910 8/21
585 - UNID, weak in Bergen 8/17 1400
585 - BBC R. Scotland, Dumfries, fair in Liverpool 8/24 0805
603 - Smooth Radio, Littlebourne, presumed; fair in Rotterdam 8/20 (although it 
sounded like Newsradio to me)
630 - R. Cornwall, Redruth strong rounding So. Eng. 8/22 1240, //657 Bodmin
657 - BBC R. Wales, Wrexham, fair in Liverpool 8/24 0810
666 - RUV Reykjavik is indeed on the air. //88.1.
684 - RNE Sevilla & UNID AA even, 1900 8/21 in Rotterdam
711 - AA 2345 entering Qaqortoq 8/8
711 - R. Romania Actualitati. Nice clean ID w/pips & news 8/21 2100 as we left 
Rotterdam
720 - BBC4 Lisnagarvey (presumed) good in Rotterdam, 8/20 1845 (don’t know 
where the 2 other 720 low power sins. are)
729 - BBC Essex, Manningtree (//765) OK Rotterdam 1900 8/20
756 - BBC R4 Redruth fair, Dublin, 8/23 2015 (//720)
765 - BBC Essex, Chelmsford (//729) OK Rotterdam about 1900 8/20
783 - AA 8/18 1930 leaving Eidfjord & 1900 8/21 leaving Rotterdam (Syria?)
819 - UNID AA 1920 8/21 leaving Rotterdam (Egypt?)
828 - Wereldstad, Rotterdam, local 8/21
837 - R. Cumbria, Barrow, semilocal in Dublin, 8/23 1635
846 - UNID US English, 8/21 1915 leaving Rotterdam. Presumed R. North, Redcastle
855 - R. Norfolk, Postwick, OK in Rotterdam 8/21 1230
855 - UNID RNE R. Nacional strong rounding So. Eng. 8/22 1245
873 - R. Norfolk, West Lynn, OK in Rotterdam 8/21 12:30p  //855
900 - RAI fair 1935 8/18 leaving Eidfjord & 1925 8/21 leaving Rotterdam
954 - Brno, Czechia very good 1935 boat 8/18 leaving Eidfjord
1062 - squelch sound noted in Rotterdam (harmonic of 531)
1062 - RAI syncs fair in Dublin 8/23 2025
1125 - BRTF Wavre strong in FF 8/18 leaving Eidfjord. I think I heard it in 
Flemish at other times
1368 - R. Manx celebrating its 50th anniversary. Fair in Liverpool 8/24 0815
1377 - UNID AA 8/21 2015 leaving Rotterdam
1413 - British EE, 1950 8/8, leaving Eidfjord
1440 - OC, 8/18 1950, leaving Eidfjord. Weak stn. under
1485 - BBC R. Merseyside, Wallasey, local in Liverpool 8/24 0845
1485 - SS 8/22 1240 btw. England/Ireland
1521 - Flame Radio, Wirral, local in Liverpool 8/24 0910
1530 - VOA Sao Tome/Principe s/off 10pm boat time, 7hrs from Reykjavik
1530 - Pulse 2, Huddersfield, fair 8/23 2030 from Dublin
1566 - Vahon Hindustani, local in Rotterdam. Gets out well.
1575 - buzz jamming, 1955 8/18, leaving Eidfjord & 8/23 2105 from Dublin
1593 - UNID FF, rounding So. Eng. 8/22 1250. WRTH says Bretagne 5 is inactive.
1611 - OC in Bergen, 8/17 1400
1629 - UNID w/s/off 1935 Leaving Rotterdam
1647 - UNID leaving Rotterdam 8/21 1940
1656 - UNID leaving Rotterdam 8/21 1942


Pete Taylor
Tacoma, WA
12225w 4719n
HQ180 & ICF2010
Gary DeBock FSL antenna
Kiwa aircore & Palomar loops
DX398, SRF-59 & M37V
Eton E100 + Tecsun PL-300/380








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Re: [IRCA] 1680 KNTS and other notes

[Neil Kazaross]

KNTS has been stunning here at sunrise in IL for at least a week.  73 KAZ

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 8:23 PM, Forrester S  wrote:

> At times over WPRR this morning while on the way to work this morning
> around 0530 Central.
> SSS was interesting as well as it started up this afternoon around 1630
> starting with 1530 Elmhurst WCKG was in for a new one this afternoon alone
> on the channel. Fading in also was 1530 WLAK with a 99.1 ID, at 1640, then
> giving way to 1530 WLCO and finally WCKY taking over the channel around
> 1655.
> Also noted, 1540 WPTT, 1160 WMRV, 1100 WISS, 1370 WCCN.
>
> Todd Skaine
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[IRCA] EUROTRIP 2017 - PART 1

[Pete Taylor]

My wife, my DX-398, one of Gary DeBock’s FSL antennas and I all hopped on the 
MS Rotterdam out of Boston on August 2 for a 38 day excursion. Ports visited 
were Bar Harbor ME, Sydney NS, Corner Brook & Red Bay NL, Qaqortoq Greenland, 
Reykjavik Iceland, Aalesund, Bergen & Eidfjord Norway, Rotterdam Netherlands, 
Dublin Ireland, Liverpool England, Isle of Man, Isle of Skye, Djupivogur, 
Akureyri & Isafjord Iceland, Nanortalik Greenland, St. Anthony & St. John’s NL 
and Halifax NS and then back to Boston, where we stayed in Woburn.

Considerations: (1) our cabin was on the port side so that was helpful for 
about half the trip; (2) most DXing was done daytime up to 10:30LT at night. 
When you are losing an hour frequently, when your wife gets sick and when you 
are tired from a lot of tours, you are not prone to get up at 4 to DX - the 
point being, when we were east of Greenland, I wasn’t up to catch U.S. TAs. 
Also, some nights it was just too cold, windy and wet to DX outside; (3) the 
FSL is a marvelous piece of equipment. However, it is indeed directional, and 
since I was surrounded by metal on three sides, I couldn’t always use it to 
best advantage. What I needed to do was sit on the stern with a Lazy Susan; and 
(4) there is not a lot of exciting DX in here. That’s because anyone at the 
same location would receive the same stations I did; there were no skips and no 
distance records were set. I have purposely omitted the non-real DX regularly 
heard megastations, Spaniards, BBC, Talksport and Absolute biggies because they 
are obvious. However, it was fun, and that’s what hobbies are all about.

Loggings are split because of size. This is Part 1:

IN NORTH AMERICA (EDT)
549 - AA teletalk, leaving St. John’s NL, 
570 - Nuuk only fair 7p 8/8 as we entered Qaqortoq, Greenland
590 - VOCM St. John’s. VOCM heard promoting its return to a heavy new coverage 
around the province. Its newscasts were heard at one time or another on 570 590 
620 650 710 740 870 (1010 (probably an image) 1230 1240. These are not reported 
separately below but were all heard.
600 - CBNA St. Anthony NL. I thought this was a low power CBC repeater in Red 
Bay because it faded out fairly quickly when we headed north. I then looked at 
a map…
720 - Simiutaq, Greenland semilocal in Nanotalik 9/2 8a, //95.0.  (NOTE: 650 
never heard) 
729/738 - RNE R. Nacional, //, 7p 8/8 approaching Qaqortoq (RNE)
900 - AA 9/5 7:05p leaving St. John’s NL
980 - WCAP (oldies) w/very strong het (Algiers presuming) nearly NF, 8p 9/5
981 - AA teletalk, entering Qaqortoq 9:40p 8/8 (Algiers presumed)
1089 - TalkSport on top of WBAL 8/8 9p approaching Qaqortoq
1100 - WHLI Hempstead even w/WTAM 9/12 8:25p from Woburn. On a little late?
1110 - SS even with WBT in Red Bay NL, 10p 8/6. Presumed Venezuela
1110 - SS, what sounded like R. Cinco, 6:50p 9/5, leaving St. John’s NL
1160 - WVNJ Oakland NJ (local talk) and UNID NH station (c) even many nights 
in Woburn 9/9-12.
1200 - WXKS Newton MA (Bloomberg) // WRCA-1330 Watertown. Nothing like a little 
signal overlap (noted in Woburn 9/12)
1210 - VOAR Mt. Pearl, NL still here but not for long from what I understand. 
This was heard last year on another cruise about 150 miles south of Bermuda.
1220 - UNID, “The Legend,” 6 hrs out of Boston 9/8 1015.
1341 - BBC Ulster wiping out 1340s, 8pm 8/5 off of Sydney NS and 9p 9/5 leaving 
St. John’s

(Part 2 follows…)
Pete Taylor
Tacoma, WA
12225w 4719n
HQ180 & ICF2010
Gary DeBock FSL antenna
Kiwa aircore & Palomar loops
DX398, SRF-59 & M37V
Eton E100 + Tecsun PL-300/380


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[IRCA] 1680 KNTS and other notes

[Forrester S]

At times over WPRR this morning while on the way to work this morning
around 0530 Central.
SSS was interesting as well as it started up this afternoon around 1630
starting with 1530 Elmhurst WCKG was in for a new one this afternoon alone
on the channel. Fading in also was 1530 WLAK with a 99.1 ID, at 1640, then
giving way to 1530 WLCO and finally WCKY taking over the channel around
1655.
Also noted, 1540 WPTT, 1160 WMRV, 1100 WISS, 1370 WCCN.

Todd Skaine
Bloomington MN
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Re: [IRCA] Old school logging

[Rick Dau]

The timing of this thread is interesting, in light of what happened to me over 
the weekend.  File this one under the "miracle of miracles" category...



So I'm out at my parents' farmhouse yesterday for a family cookout.  At one 
point during the afternoon, I'm in a storage room upstairs looking through a 
box of some stuff that I owned many, many years ago before moving out in early 
1991.  I stumble across one of those old glossy Mead folders.  Y'know, like the 
kind that high school and college students had back in the day as organizers.  
I open it up and what do I find in it?  5 sheets of notebook paper on which are 
written my FM logsheet from Spirit Lake, Iowa dated 1995, plus both my AM and 
FM logsheets dated 1996 from Lafayette, Indiana.  Talk about finding a treasure 
trove!  Obviously, not ALL of my logbooks were thrown away when I left the 
hobby for 5 years starting in May 2005.   I wondered, though, how in the world 
these made it out to the farm, and then I remembered -- I brought them with me 
when I came home from Lafayette at Christmastime in 1996, a starter solenoid in 
my Chevy Cavalier went out on me while I was the
 re, and I was so stressed out about the car that I left the folder behind in 
my room when I went back to Indiana.  So I figured I'd just grab it the next 
time I was back home, and then I forgot it again, and never did remember that 
it was there until yesterday.  The sheets are somewhat faded, as you might 
imagine they would be after this many years, so I'm in the process of 
transcribing my loggings onto new sheets of paper, and then the originals will 
get tossed.  Even though the loggings don't contain info about WHAT I heard, 
they still have dates and times on them, which says that I at least heard 
SOMETHING confirming that it was that station I heard at the time I heard it.  
Finding the FM logsheets for Spirit Lake was especially ironic, timing-wise, as 
I'm going to be up there with Ernie Wesolowski this coming weekend.  All of the 
logsheets were in order by date, but I eventually will get them sorted by 
frequency onto new sheets were they can then be printed out from my e
 -mail.



73,

Rick Dau

South Omaha, Nebraska

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Re: [IRCA] Tecsun S-8800 AM/LW/SW/FM Field Radio With Remote

[Rick Lewis]

This article certainly leads to many questions, which, due to the newness of 
the radio, probably no one here can answer, but that doesn’t stop me from 
posting them.
I have a Tecsun CR-1100 which has some quirks—some I love and some that I wish 
didn’t exist, and I’d love to know how the 8800 performs in these areas.
   Unlike many radios, the CR-1100 makes no attempt to filter out FM HD 
noise on adjacent channels. Although audible blocks of white noise don’t sound 
too appealing on the surface, they allow me to know when I have nulled an HD 
signal as much as possible. I love this about the 1100; I doubt that the 8800 
performs this way, but I’d love it if it did.
On the minus side, the 1100 has an annoying characteristic on 
FM:apparently as a battery conservation measure, if there’s a weak signal or 
white noise on a frequency, the unit shuts off after 5 minutes. I can think of 
many reasons why this feature is undesirable, and none that favor it. In fact, 
it does this with fully audible non-full-quieting signals, and if there’s a way 
to defeat it, I haven’t discovered it yet. I hope the 8800 doesn’t have this 
undesirable “feature.”
I’d love to know what the battery life is when the output or 
headphone jack is patched into another source and the speaker is deactivated.
 Being blind, I can’t see any pictures associated with this article. 
Thus, I wonder if direct frequencies can be entered on the radio itself or just 
on the remote. Radio is preferred. 
I’m glad there’s no soft muting or audio dropouts while tuning. But 
I’d love to know how the 8800’s FM reception compares to the two Sonys most 
commonly used by FM DXers, as well as the 1100.
This may have been answered by the article, but if so, I didn’t catch 
it. The Tecsun 1100 has memory scan on FM which can be triggered by pressing 
the tuning dial in. (Unfortunately, the memory scan times out after an hour.) I 
wonder if the 8800 has this memory scan, and if the annoying timeout exists on 
the 8800.

As you can see, FM is top priority for me. I have enough interference here that 
AM is generally something that I recall listening to, not something I enjoy 
much these days. However, good enough AM performance might get me more 
interested in going further afield where interference is less of a problem. But 
FM is the real ticket. I’m always looking for better FM than I have with the 
Sony XD-S3Hd and the Tecsun CR-1100.

--
Rick 


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Subject: [IRCA] Tecsun S-8800 AM/LW/SW/FM Field Radio With Remote

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Re: [IRCA] Old school logging

[d1028gary]

<<< I have found over 35 years of working with ‘program people’ at VOA that 
there is NO amount of text or verbiage that can adequately describe or validate 
a reception when compared to actually hearing it. There MAY be some notes 
required to put the recorded audio in context but that’s just another ‘column’ 
in a spreadsheet or table element in a database. 
Besides, with a recording you’ve got permanent record and can let others help 
in IDing something you can’t. >>> 

This is the main reason why I feel that live ocean coast DXing is so thrilling. 
You can make an immediate recording of an exotic DX station, post a link to the 
MP3 recording within an hour, and have a permanent record of the DX reception 
for all to evaluate and enjoy. 

The popularity of the new west coast "hot spot" DXing locations like Rockwork 4 
and Cape Perpetua was all based on exceptional DX recordings made at the 
locations. When you hear a DU station at an unprecedented signal strength (or a 
new DU station that is a west coast first), a recording is the only way to 
accurately evaluate the reception. Logging descriptions are highly subjective, 
and what is "strong" to one DXer might be "moderate" to another. With a 
recording you can always make you own independent, accurate assessment of the 
signal strength. 

Both my style of my live ocean coast DXing and the type of logs that I keep 
could be considered in the "stone age," but the DX recordings are what provides 
long-term excitement for me, and the reason why I keep going back to places 
like the Oregon coast and Hawaii. The recordings are also the main reason why 
others feel attracted to these areas, whether the recordings are from me or 
another DXer (Bill, Tom, Craig, etc.). 

Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) 


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From: "Bill Whitacre"  
To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" 
 
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 6:09:21 AM 
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Old school logging 

This is an interesting discussion. 

Seems to me that logging is another part of the hobby where there is no one 
‘right’ or ‘best’ way to do it. We’re all doing this because it’s either fun or 
we don’t have anything else to do. Either way you need to find a way to keep 
track of what you hear that’s ‘fun’ and adds to your enjoyment of the hobby or 
you won’t keep doing it. 

An Excel spreadsheet is a very powerful tool — you can do LOTS of things with a 
spreadsheet. 

BUT there are some things that you really aught to be using a database for. One 
is making your logs available on-line. If that’s not important to you then you 
can stop reading. 

For me it’s a satisfying part of the hobby - not only are my ‘logs’ just sound 
samples of what I’ve heard but I also get a kick out of figuring out how to 
coax MySQL, PHP and HTML to show what I want to show in the way I want to show 
it. 

An example: http://realmonitor.com/am_logs_qh9.php 

That’s not for everyone, I understand. 

— 

It is also true that HOW you DX dictates HOW you LOG. I use a Perseus and very 
often use Mestor to record TOH and other pieces of an hour. So I’ve ALWAYS got 
some recorded audio to work from. I call it TiVO DXing. 

I have found over 35 years of working with ‘program people’ at VOA that there 
is NO amount of text or verbiage that can adequately describe or validate a 
reception when compared to actually hearing it. There MAY be some notes 
required to put the recorded audio in context but that’s just another ‘column’ 
in a spreadsheet or table element in a database. 

Besides, with a recording you’ve got permanent record and can let others help 
in IDing something you can’t. 

— 

Seems to me that if there were one place [website] that could handle anyone's 
loggings and sounds in various formats then that might be a useful option. 

I used to ‘host’ our city’s Little League teams website. Over the nearly 10 
years that I did the job I devised ways to show schedules, pictures, results 
via form input from the coaches and even a testing module for prospective 
umpires. When I stopped doing it I thought the organization would struggle to 
replace me. They quickly found a site on-line that did all that I did and more 
for TONS of sports teams all over the country and became just another one of 
their customers. 

People don’t do things like that for free though — they do it to make $$ — even 
though what they charge any single customer might not seem like much. 

I have not looked at things like mwlist.org  as a place for 
putting my loggings but from what Tim Tromp has described it might be a place 
to consider. 

There may be others and I’ll bet hams have developed some solutions to this 
that might be adaptable to DXers use as well. 

Just my 2 cents. 

Bill Whitacre 
Alexandria, VA 

— 

> On Oct 9, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Russ Edmunds  wrote: 
> 
> First, I'll note that I've been mostly inactive the past 

Re: [IRCA] Fwd: [mwcircle] 1000 KOMO

[Volodya S]

Unfortunately my anticipated TAs were a bust last night compared to
Saturday night. Virtually nothing at all. Go figure!  Walt in Masset

On Sunday, October 8, 2017, Volodya S  wrote:

> North Beverage is up and ready tonight, Nick. Plenty of carriers last
> night on the ALA. Walt
>
> On Sunday, October 8, 2017, Nicholas Hall-Patch  > wrote:
>
>> Might be time to get the TA antennas up on the west coastKOMO and KGA
>> heard in Britain...
>>
>> best wishes,
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Barry Davies barry.davie...@btopenworld.com [mwcircle]
>> Date: Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 10:09 PM
>> Subject: [mwcircle] 1000 KOMO
>> To: Yahoogroups 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello
>> 1000 KOMO Seattle WA; (Offset) College Football. Washington Huskies v
>> California.  0320 8/10
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> *Barry**:-)*
>>
>> Carlisle UK.  Lat. 55.0119N   Lon. -2.9668W.
>>
>>
>>
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[IRCA] TP's for Monday, October 9. 2017 Kalama, WA

[Dennis Vroom via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---
Listen from 1050-1145 utc. Early mornings sessions with some good powerhouse 
receptions. Long wave aeronautical stations hit a season high of 5 stations. 

358 ALASKA, KAW-27 Sitka, 10/09 1115 fair with aviation weather.

356 ALASKA, KEJ-28 Kotzebue 10/09 1121 weak with aviation weather.

385 ALASKA, KKW-92 Yukutat, 10/09 1124 weak with aviation weather.

394 ALASKA,KAK-20  Kodiak, 10/09 1132 fair with aviation weather.

411 Alaska, KAI-82 Iliamna, 10/09 1135 good with aviation weather.

531 JAPAN,JOQG, Morioka, NHK1 10/09 1103 weak with man in JJ. //594 JOAK.

594 JAPAN JOAK Tokyo NHK1 10/09 1102 good signal with man in JJ.

603  REP KOREA, HLSA Seoul, 10/09 1142 weak with music. 

693  JAPAN, JOAB, Tokyo, NHK2 10/09 1144 fair signal with man in JJ. Moderate 
splatter. //774 JOUB

747  JAPAN JOIB Sapporo, NHK2 10/09 1120 fair signal man in JJ. //774 JOUB.

774 JAPAN, JOUB Akita, NHK2 10/09 1120 good with man/woman in JJ. 

828  JAPAN, JOBB, Osaka, NHK2 10/09 1138 fair with man/woman in JJ. //774 JOUB.

972  REB. KOREA  HLCA Dingjin. 10/09 1125 good with woman/man in KK.

1566 REP OF KOREA, HLAZ, Jeju, 10/09 1057 good signal with religious music 
followed by woman in CC?



Best regards,

Dennis  Vroom, 
Kalama, WA
JRC NRD 545 + Drake R8B
NW ewe 310°
Long wire 339'
Random wire 380'
Solar Indices SF=77 A=4 K=1

Local Sunrise 1419 utc

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[IRCA] Tecsun S-8800 AM/LW/SW/FM Field Radio With Remote

[Dennis Gibson]

https://radiojayallen.com/tecsun-s-8800-amlwswfm-field-radio-with-remote/

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[IRCA] Was..Re: Old school logging

[R. Colin Newell]

Decades before I met any of you lot (actually I knew many of you...) I used 
ARRL and Radio Shack logbooks in the 70’s through the present day
And in anticipation that this topic would come up I used a wide variety of 
writing instruments from bic pens to Parker’s and pencils of all HB stripe. 

Here in the 21st Century I do a lot of hand writing with pen and pencil. 

Anyone else. 

Colin Newell - SYSTEMS UVic - Victoria - B.C. CANADA -- 

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Re: [IRCA] S. AZ TPs Oct 9

[Volodya S]

Agree with Steve. Superb Asian opening this AM in Masset. Highlight was an
aero beacon from Kamchatka UT. I think freq was 605. Wall to wall stations.
I know its good when there are multiple stations cochannel. NHK2 signed off
early at 15:00 today. 73, Walt

On Monday, October 9, 2017, Steve Ratzlaff  wrote:

> Improved conditions this morning with many hets over the whole band at
> decent levels. The top of hour chime cuts through splatter quite well and
> can sometimes be heard with nothing else heard. The lower pitched pips
> don't come through as well unless the signal is a little stronger. Even a
> couple domestic even-frequency channels heard with pips and chimes, first
> time for me. (Those channels have no local stations.) Nothing for expanded
> band but a couple weak hets after 1300 utc.
>
> 567 Japan 3 pips and chime 1300 utc very poor
>
> 594 Japan 1237 utc talk very poor/poor;3 pips and chime then talk 1300 utc
> very poor/poor
>
> 603 Japan chime 1300 utc faint
>
> 612 Japan chime 1300 utc faint
>
> 648 Japan chime 1300 utc faint
>
> 666 Japan 3 pips and chime 1300 utc very poor; 1311 utc talk very poor
>
> 693 Japan 1239 utc talk very poor/poor; 3 pips and chime 1300 utc very
> poor; 1312 talk very poor/poor
>
> 729  Japan3 pips and chime 1300 utc very poor
>
> 747 Japan 3 pips and chime  1300 utc then talk then female pop music very
> poor/poor
>
> 774 Japan 3 pips and chime  1300 utc then talk then female pop music poor
> (sync det)
>
> 819 unknown 1241 utc femaile talk very poor
>
> 828 Japan chime 1300 utc faint/very poor
>
> 846 Japan chime 1300 utc faint
>
> 864 Japan chime 1300 utc faint
>
> 891 Japan 1246 utc talk very poor/poor; pips and chime 1300 utc then man
> talk very poor/poor
>
> 918 unknown chime 1300 utc but "C" note not normal Japan/Korea "A" note,
> faint
>
> 927 Japan chime 1300 utc faint
>
> 945 Japan chime 1300 utc faint
>
> 954 unknown 1320 utc male talk very poor
>
> 972 S Korea 1247 utc talk very poor/poor;  pips and chime 1300 utc, short
> music, talk poor (sync det)
>
> 1008 unknown chime 1300 utc, "C" note faint
>
> 1017 unknown  1322 utc female talk very poor
>
> 1089 Japan chime 1300 utc faint
>
> 1116 China assumed 5 pips 1300 utc, "G" note, talk, orchestra music very
> poor
>
> 1134 Japan chime 1300 utc faint/very poor; 1324 utc male talk very
> poor/poor
>
> 1143 unknown 1300 utc no chime but man talking very poor; 1325 utc female
> talk very poor
>
> 1197 unknown  1327 utc female talk very poor
>
> 1242 unknown  1328 utc female pop music very poor
>
> 1206 China assumed with -40 Hz carrier 1330 female talk poor (sync det)
>
> 1260 unknown, chime 1300 utc, "C" note very poor
>
> 1287 Japan chime 1300 utc very poor
>
> 1314 Japan 1253 talk poor (sync det); chime 1300 utc very poor
>
> 1332 unknown 1300 utc, no TOH but 4 "G" note pips several seconds after
> TOH faint/very poor
>
> 1350 unknown chime 1300 utc, "C" note faint/very poor
>
> 1386 Japan chime 1300 utc faint/very poor
>
> 1503 unknown, not Japan chime 1300 utc, "C" note (NHK 1/2 use "A" note
> chime) faint
>
> 1521 Japan pips and chime 1300 utc very poor
>
> 1566 S Korea HLAZ 1225-1346 utc reaching weak (good signal, sync det,
> near-armchair copy) at times
>
> 1575 VOA Thailand assumed 1259 utc male talk very poor
>
> 1593 China assumed 1321 utc talk very poor
>
> Steve AA7U
>
> near Sahuarita AZ
>
> R75; FDM S2 recording; west DKAZ + FLG100 preamp
>
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[IRCA] S. AZ TPs Oct 9

[Steve Ratzlaff]

Improved conditions this morning with many hets over the whole band at 
decent levels. The top of hour chime cuts through splatter quite well 
and can sometimes be heard with nothing else heard. The lower pitched 
pips don't come through as well unless the signal is a little stronger. 
Even a couple domestic even-frequency channels heard with pips and 
chimes, first time for me. (Those channels have no local stations.) 
Nothing for expanded band but a couple weak hets after 1300 utc.


567 Japan 3 pips and chime 1300 utc very poor

594 Japan 1237 utc talk very poor/poor;3 pips and chime then talk 1300 
utc very poor/poor


603 Japan chime 1300 utc faint

612 Japan chime 1300 utc faint

648 Japan chime 1300 utc faint

666 Japan 3 pips and chime 1300 utc very poor; 1311 utc talk very poor

693 Japan 1239 utc talk very poor/poor; 3 pips and chime 1300 utc very 
poor; 1312 talk very poor/poor


729  Japan3 pips and chime 1300 utc very poor

747 Japan 3 pips and chime  1300 utc then talk then female pop music 
very poor/poor


774 Japan 3 pips and chime  1300 utc then talk then female pop music 
poor (sync det)


819 unknown 1241 utc femaile talk very poor

828 Japan chime 1300 utc faint/very poor

846 Japan chime 1300 utc faint

864 Japan chime 1300 utc faint

891 Japan 1246 utc talk very poor/poor; pips and chime 1300 utc then man 
talk very poor/poor


918 unknown chime 1300 utc but "C" note not normal Japan/Korea "A" note, 
faint


927 Japan chime 1300 utc faint

945 Japan chime 1300 utc faint

954 unknown 1320 utc male talk very poor

972 S Korea 1247 utc talk very poor/poor;  pips and chime 1300 utc, 
short music, talk poor (sync det)


1008 unknown chime 1300 utc, "C" note faint

1017 unknown  1322 utc female talk very poor

1089 Japan chime 1300 utc faint

1116 China assumed 5 pips 1300 utc, "G" note, talk, orchestra music very 
poor


1134 Japan chime 1300 utc faint/very poor; 1324 utc male talk very poor/poor

1143 unknown 1300 utc no chime but man talking very poor; 1325 utc 
female talk very poor


1197 unknown  1327 utc female talk very poor

1242 unknown  1328 utc female pop music very poor

1206 China assumed with -40 Hz carrier 1330 female talk poor (sync det)

1260 unknown, chime 1300 utc, "C" note very poor

1287 Japan chime 1300 utc very poor

1314 Japan 1253 talk poor (sync det); chime 1300 utc very poor

1332 unknown 1300 utc, no TOH but 4 "G" note pips several seconds after 
TOH faint/very poor


1350 unknown chime 1300 utc, "C" note faint/very poor

1386 Japan chime 1300 utc faint/very poor

1503 unknown, not Japan chime 1300 utc, "C" note (NHK 1/2 use "A" note 
chime) faint


1521 Japan pips and chime 1300 utc very poor

1566 S Korea HLAZ 1225-1346 utc reaching weak (good signal, sync det, 
near-armchair copy) at times


1575 VOA Thailand assumed 1259 utc male talk very poor

1593 China assumed 1321 utc talk very poor

Steve AA7U

near Sahuarita AZ

R75; FDM S2 recording; west DKAZ + FLG100 preamp


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Re: [IRCA] Old school logging

[Russ Edmunds]

While I have had the means to put my logs on the web, I've often felt that the 
number of people who would be interested ( especially in logs that would now be 
almost considered 'ancient history' ) couldn't justify the effort, and 
especially so if I wanted to link to recordings.

I would probably consider it further if I were more active, but a noisy 
location and no suitable place for an outdoor antenna have precluded that. And 
even so, I've still not yet completed a now years-long project to convert my 
old NJ taped ID's to mp3.

Although I'll be retiring at year end, my wife has plans to take up any new 
free time that will create :-{


Russ Edmunds

WB2BJH

Blue Bell, PA

Grid FN20id



From: IRCA  on behalf of Russ Johnson 

Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 9:24 AM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Old school logging

It is a very interesting discussion. No one is coming off like their way is
best.  I can see that personal interests drive the method. QSLing, on-line
sharing, personal record keeping, etc.

Like the other Russ, I also think  non cloud based storage (external hard
drive/thumb drive) is good idea even if your confidence in cloud storage is
high.  One on site and one off site has always been my preference.  Easy to
do.

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:13 AM Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I do agree that no one way is right or wrong and if I come off that way.
> .and sometimes I know i do, im sorry. I simply want people to get the most
> out of DXing they can, take every advantage possible, and stand the most
> chance of getting a QSL card or verie.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Bill Whitacre  wrote:
>
> > This is an interesting discussion.
> >
> > Seems to me that logging is another part of the hobby where there is no
> > one ‘right’ or ‘best’ way to do it.  We’re all doing this because it’s
> > either fun or we don’t have anything else to do.  Either way you need to
> > find a way to keep track of what you hear that’s ‘fun’ and adds to your
> > enjoyment of the hobby or you won’t keep doing it.
> >
> > An Excel spreadsheet is a very powerful tool — you can do LOTS of things
> > with a spreadsheet.
> >
> > BUT there are some things that you really aught to be using a database
> > for.  One is making your logs available on-line.  If that’s not important
> > to you then you can stop reading.
> >
> > For me it’s a satisfying part of the hobby - not only are my ‘logs’ just
> > sound samples of what I’ve heard but I also get a kick out of figuring
> out
> > how to coax MySQL, PHP and HTML to show what I want to show in the way I
> > want to show it.
> >
> > An example:  http://realmonitor.com/am_logs_qh9.php
> >
> > That’s not for everyone, I understand.
> >
> > —
> >
> > It is also true that HOW you DX dictates HOW you LOG.  I use a Perseus
> and
> > very often use Mestor to record TOH and other pieces of an hour.  So I’ve
> > ALWAYS got some recorded audio to work from.  I call it TiVO DXing.
> >
> > I have found over 35 years of working with ‘program people’ at VOA that
> > there is NO amount of text or verbiage that can adequately describe or
> > validate a reception when compared to actually hearing it.  There MAY be
> > some notes required to put the recorded audio in context but that’s just
> > another ‘column’ in a spreadsheet or table element in a database.
> >
> > Besides, with a recording you’ve got permanent record and can let others
> > help in IDing something you can’t.
> >
> > —
> >
> > Seems to me that if there were one place [website] that could handle
> > anyone's loggings and sounds in various formats then that might be a
> useful
> > option.
> >
> > I used to ‘host’ our city’s Little League teams website.  Over the nearly
> > 10 years that I did the job I devised ways to show schedules, pictures,
> > results via form input from the coaches and even a testing module for
> > prospective umpires.  When I stopped doing it I thought the organization
> > would struggle to replace me.  They quickly found a site on-line that did
> > all that I did and more for TONS of sports teams all over the country and
> > became just another one of their customers.
> >
> > People don’t do things like that for free though — they do it to make $$
> —
> > even though what they charge any single customer might not seem like
> much..
> >
> > I have not looked at things like mwlist.org  as a
> > place for putting my loggings but from what Tim Tromp has described it
> > might be a place to consider.
> >
> > There may be others and I’ll bet hams have developed some solutions to
> > this that might be adaptable to DXers use as well.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents.
> >
> > Bill Whitacre
> > Alexandria, VA
> >
> > —
> >
> > > On Oct 9, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Russ Edmunds  wrote:
> > >
> > > First, I'll 

Re: [IRCA] Old school logging

[Russ Johnson]

It is a very interesting discussion. No one is coming off like their way is
best.  I can see that personal interests drive the method. QSLing, on-line
sharing, personal record keeping, etc.

Like the other Russ, I also think  non cloud based storage (external hard
drive/thumb drive) is good idea even if your confidence in cloud storage is
high.  One on site and one off site has always been my preference.  Easy to
do.

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:13 AM Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I do agree that no one way is right or wrong and if I come off that way.
> .and sometimes I know i do, im sorry. I simply want people to get the most
> out of DXing they can, take every advantage possible, and stand the most
> chance of getting a QSL card or verie.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Bill Whitacre  wrote:
>
> > This is an interesting discussion.
> >
> > Seems to me that logging is another part of the hobby where there is no
> > one ‘right’ or ‘best’ way to do it.  We’re all doing this because it’s
> > either fun or we don’t have anything else to do.  Either way you need to
> > find a way to keep track of what you hear that’s ‘fun’ and adds to your
> > enjoyment of the hobby or you won’t keep doing it.
> >
> > An Excel spreadsheet is a very powerful tool — you can do LOTS of things
> > with a spreadsheet.
> >
> > BUT there are some things that you really aught to be using a database
> > for.  One is making your logs available on-line.  If that’s not important
> > to you then you can stop reading.
> >
> > For me it’s a satisfying part of the hobby - not only are my ‘logs’ just
> > sound samples of what I’ve heard but I also get a kick out of figuring
> out
> > how to coax MySQL, PHP and HTML to show what I want to show in the way I
> > want to show it.
> >
> > An example:  http://realmonitor.com/am_logs_qh9.php
> >
> > That’s not for everyone, I understand.
> >
> > —
> >
> > It is also true that HOW you DX dictates HOW you LOG.  I use a Perseus
> and
> > very often use Mestor to record TOH and other pieces of an hour.  So I’ve
> > ALWAYS got some recorded audio to work from.  I call it TiVO DXing.
> >
> > I have found over 35 years of working with ‘program people’ at VOA that
> > there is NO amount of text or verbiage that can adequately describe or
> > validate a reception when compared to actually hearing it.  There MAY be
> > some notes required to put the recorded audio in context but that’s just
> > another ‘column’ in a spreadsheet or table element in a database.
> >
> > Besides, with a recording you’ve got permanent record and can let others
> > help in IDing something you can’t.
> >
> > —
> >
> > Seems to me that if there were one place [website] that could handle
> > anyone's loggings and sounds in various formats then that might be a
> useful
> > option.
> >
> > I used to ‘host’ our city’s Little League teams website.  Over the nearly
> > 10 years that I did the job I devised ways to show schedules, pictures,
> > results via form input from the coaches and even a testing module for
> > prospective umpires.  When I stopped doing it I thought the organization
> > would struggle to replace me.  They quickly found a site on-line that did
> > all that I did and more for TONS of sports teams all over the country and
> > became just another one of their customers.
> >
> > People don’t do things like that for free though — they do it to make $$
> —
> > even though what they charge any single customer might not seem like
> much..
> >
> > I have not looked at things like mwlist.org  as a
> > place for putting my loggings but from what Tim Tromp has described it
> > might be a place to consider.
> >
> > There may be others and I’ll bet hams have developed some solutions to
> > this that might be adaptable to DXers use as well.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents.
> >
> > Bill Whitacre
> > Alexandria, VA
> >
> > —
> >
> > > On Oct 9, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Russ Edmunds  wrote:
> > >
> > > First, I'll note that I've been mostly inactive the past couple of
> years,
> > > and the only reports I send out are from DX Tests, and even those (
> Such
> > as
> > > WBOB-600 ) don't always respond even with recordings.
> > >
> > > I agree with others than sometimes a recording isn't practical, such as
> > on
> > > my short drive to work around SR.
> > >
> > > I migrated all of my logs for AM, FM, & LW to Access databases a few
> > years
> > > ago ( previously they'd been in Excel). I use Access because it's a
> > > database where I can generate any sort of output file in terms of
> > selection
> > > or sort. I don't use a paper backup, rather I regularly update 2 backup
> > > copies contained on memory sticks, one of which is stored offsite.
> > >
> > >
> > > Russ Edmunds
> > > 15 mi NW Phila
> > > Grid FN20id
> > > 
> > >
> > > AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (3) barefoot w/whip
> > > FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
> > > 

Re: [IRCA] Old school logging

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

I do agree that no one way is right or wrong and if I come off that way.
.and sometimes I know i do, im sorry. I simply want people to get the most
out of DXing they can, take every advantage possible, and stand the most
chance of getting a QSL card or verie.



On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Bill Whitacre  wrote:

> This is an interesting discussion.
>
> Seems to me that logging is another part of the hobby where there is no
> one ‘right’ or ‘best’ way to do it.  We’re all doing this because it’s
> either fun or we don’t have anything else to do.  Either way you need to
> find a way to keep track of what you hear that’s ‘fun’ and adds to your
> enjoyment of the hobby or you won’t keep doing it.
>
> An Excel spreadsheet is a very powerful tool — you can do LOTS of things
> with a spreadsheet.
>
> BUT there are some things that you really aught to be using a database
> for.  One is making your logs available on-line.  If that’s not important
> to you then you can stop reading.
>
> For me it’s a satisfying part of the hobby - not only are my ‘logs’ just
> sound samples of what I’ve heard but I also get a kick out of figuring out
> how to coax MySQL, PHP and HTML to show what I want to show in the way I
> want to show it.
>
> An example:  http://realmonitor.com/am_logs_qh9.php
>
> That’s not for everyone, I understand.
>
> —
>
> It is also true that HOW you DX dictates HOW you LOG.  I use a Perseus and
> very often use Mestor to record TOH and other pieces of an hour.  So I’ve
> ALWAYS got some recorded audio to work from.  I call it TiVO DXing.
>
> I have found over 35 years of working with ‘program people’ at VOA that
> there is NO amount of text or verbiage that can adequately describe or
> validate a reception when compared to actually hearing it.  There MAY be
> some notes required to put the recorded audio in context but that’s just
> another ‘column’ in a spreadsheet or table element in a database.
>
> Besides, with a recording you’ve got permanent record and can let others
> help in IDing something you can’t.
>
> —
>
> Seems to me that if there were one place [website] that could handle
> anyone's loggings and sounds in various formats then that might be a useful
> option.
>
> I used to ‘host’ our city’s Little League teams website.  Over the nearly
> 10 years that I did the job I devised ways to show schedules, pictures,
> results via form input from the coaches and even a testing module for
> prospective umpires.  When I stopped doing it I thought the organization
> would struggle to replace me.  They quickly found a site on-line that did
> all that I did and more for TONS of sports teams all over the country and
> became just another one of their customers.
>
> People don’t do things like that for free though — they do it to make $$ —
> even though what they charge any single customer might not seem like much..
>
> I have not looked at things like mwlist.org  as a
> place for putting my loggings but from what Tim Tromp has described it
> might be a place to consider.
>
> There may be others and I’ll bet hams have developed some solutions to
> this that might be adaptable to DXers use as well.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Bill Whitacre
> Alexandria, VA
>
> —
>
> > On Oct 9, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Russ Edmunds  wrote:
> >
> > First, I'll note that I've been mostly inactive the past couple of years,
> > and the only reports I send out are from DX Tests, and even those ( Such
> as
> > WBOB-600 ) don't always respond even with recordings.
> >
> > I agree with others than sometimes a recording isn't practical, such as
> on
> > my short drive to work around SR.
> >
> > I migrated all of my logs for AM, FM, & LW to Access databases a few
> years
> > ago ( previously they'd been in Excel). I use Access because it's a
> > database where I can generate any sort of output file in terms of
> selection
> > or sort. I don't use a paper backup, rather I regularly update 2 backup
> > copies contained on memory sticks, one of which is stored offsite.
> >
> >
> > Russ Edmunds
> > 15 mi NW Phila
> > Grid FN20id
> > 
> >
> > AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (3) barefoot w/whip
> > FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
> > Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 4); Sony XDRS3HD;
> > modified Sony ICF2010's (2) w/APS9B @ 15';
> > modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 9:56 PM, Russ Johnson 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I do.
> >>
> >> I handwrite in a paper log (I use an ARRL ham radio logbook and modify
> the
> >> columns).  Then transfer to excel spreadsheet when convenient.
> >> Periodically back it up to an external hard drive.
> >>
> >> I can't think of any "logging power" one would need beyond what you can
> do
> >> in a spreadsheet.  At least not for me.
> >>
> >> Russ Johnson
> >> Lexington NC
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 9:50 PM Mike Sanburn 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have often 

Re: [IRCA] Old school logging

[Bill Whitacre]

This is an interesting discussion.

Seems to me that logging is another part of the hobby where there is no one 
‘right’ or ‘best’ way to do it.  We’re all doing this because it’s either fun 
or we don’t have anything else to do.  Either way you need to find a way to 
keep track of what you hear that’s ‘fun’ and adds to your enjoyment of the 
hobby or you won’t keep doing it.

An Excel spreadsheet is a very powerful tool — you can do LOTS of things with a 
spreadsheet.

BUT there are some things that you really aught to be using a database for.  
One is making your logs available on-line.  If that’s not important to you then 
you can stop reading.

For me it’s a satisfying part of the hobby - not only are my ‘logs’ just sound 
samples of what I’ve heard but I also get a kick out of figuring out how to 
coax MySQL, PHP and HTML to show what I want to show in the way I want to show 
it.

An example:  http://realmonitor.com/am_logs_qh9.php

That’s not for everyone, I understand.

—

It is also true that HOW you DX dictates HOW you LOG.  I use a Perseus and very 
often use Mestor to record TOH and other pieces of an hour.  So I’ve ALWAYS got 
some recorded audio to work from.  I call it TiVO DXing.

I have found over 35 years of working with ‘program people’ at VOA that there 
is NO amount of text or verbiage that can adequately describe or validate a 
reception when compared to actually hearing it.  There MAY be some notes 
required to put the recorded audio in context but that’s just another ‘column’ 
in a spreadsheet or table element in a database.

Besides, with a recording you’ve got permanent record and can let others help 
in IDing something you can’t.

—

Seems to me that if there were one place [website] that could handle anyone's 
loggings and sounds in various formats then that might be a useful option.

I used to ‘host’ our city’s Little League teams website.  Over the nearly 10 
years that I did the job I devised ways to show schedules, pictures, results 
via form input from the coaches and even a testing module for prospective 
umpires.  When I stopped doing it I thought the organization would struggle to 
replace me.  They quickly found a site on-line that did all that I did and more 
for TONS of sports teams all over the country and became just another one of 
their customers.

People don’t do things like that for free though — they do it to make $$ — even 
though what they charge any single customer might not seem like much.

I have not looked at things like mwlist.org  as a place for 
putting my loggings but from what Tim Tromp has described it might be a place 
to consider.

There may be others and I’ll bet hams have developed some solutions to this 
that might be adaptable to DXers use as well.

Just my 2 cents.

Bill Whitacre
Alexandria, VA

—

> On Oct 9, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Russ Edmunds  wrote:
> 
> First, I'll note that I've been mostly inactive the past couple of years,
> and the only reports I send out are from DX Tests, and even those ( Such as
> WBOB-600 ) don't always respond even with recordings.
> 
> I agree with others than sometimes a recording isn't practical, such as on
> my short drive to work around SR.
> 
> I migrated all of my logs for AM, FM, & LW to Access databases a few years
> ago ( previously they'd been in Excel). I use Access because it's a
> database where I can generate any sort of output file in terms of selection
> or sort. I don't use a paper backup, rather I regularly update 2 backup
> copies contained on memory sticks, one of which is stored offsite.
> 
> 
> Russ Edmunds
> 15 mi NW Phila
> Grid FN20id
> 
> 
> AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (3) barefoot w/whip
> FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
> Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 4); Sony XDRS3HD;
> modified Sony ICF2010's (2) w/APS9B @ 15';
> modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip
> 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 9:56 PM, Russ Johnson  wrote:
> 
>> I do.
>> 
>> I handwrite in a paper log (I use an ARRL ham radio logbook and modify the
>> columns).  Then transfer to excel spreadsheet when convenient.
>> Periodically back it up to an external hard drive.
>> 
>> I can't think of any "logging power" one would need beyond what you can do
>> in a spreadsheet.  At least not for me.
>> 
>> Russ Johnson
>> Lexington NC
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 9:50 PM Mike Sanburn 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have often wondered how many DXers use Excel spreadsheet as an AM radio
>>> log? It is always a good idea to keep things backed up with some old
>> school
>>> hard copy, ie paper. How many official logging software brands do we know
>>> of know?  ms
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
 On Oct 8, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Martin Foltz  wrote:
 
 Mark,
 
 I write details in a Composition book for what I hear daily.
 My log is a Microsoft Excel file that I have developed over time. It
>> has
>>> 

Re: [IRCA] Old school logging

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

If I can't record in some fashion, I don't DX.  When I did some brief AM
and FM DXing as a passenger in the car, I held the phone up to the speaker
and recorded on an mp3 app on my phone.

I realize, not practical but if i can't record, I don't log and
report audio has been a huge help, especially with foreign language
broadcasts

And nowadays, the digital recorder, a Zoom H1 .. can be held in your hand
and has external mics and line in recording options






On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Russ Edmunds  wrote:

> First, I'll note that I've been mostly inactive the past couple of years,
> and the only reports I send out are from DX Tests, and even those ( Such as
> WBOB-600 ) don't always respond even with recordings.
>
> I agree with others than sometimes a recording isn't practical, such as on
> my short drive to work around SR.
>
> I migrated all of my logs for AM, FM, & LW to Access databases a few years
> ago ( previously they'd been in Excel). I use Access because it's a
> database where I can generate any sort of output file in terms of selection
> or sort. I don't use a paper backup, rather I regularly update 2 backup
> copies contained on memory sticks, one of which is stored offsite.
>
>
> Russ Edmunds
> 15 mi NW Phila
> Grid FN20id
> 
>
> AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (3) barefoot w/whip
> FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
> Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 4); Sony XDRS3HD;
> modified Sony ICF2010's (2) w/APS9B @ 15';
> modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 9:56 PM, Russ Johnson  wrote:
>
> > I do.
> >
> > I handwrite in a paper log (I use an ARRL ham radio logbook and modify
> the
> > columns).  Then transfer to excel spreadsheet when convenient.
> > Periodically back it up to an external hard drive.
> >
> > I can't think of any "logging power" one would need beyond what you can
> do
> > in a spreadsheet.  At least not for me.
> >
> > Russ Johnson
> > Lexington NC
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 9:50 PM Mike Sanburn 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have often wondered how many DXers use Excel spreadsheet as an AM
> radio
> > > log? It is always a good idea to keep things backed up with some old
> > school
> > > hard copy, ie paper. How many official logging software brands do we
> know
> > > of know?  ms
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPod
> > >
> > > > On Oct 8, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Martin Foltz 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mark,
> > > >
> > > > I write details in a Composition book for what I hear daily.
> > > > My log is a Microsoft Excel file that I have developed over time. It
> > has
> > > several tabs. The main log tab has all the usual columns for frequency,
> > > calls, city, state, format, etc. Another tab is statistics that
> > > automatically counts how many stations heard in each state and
> province.
> > > Other tabs are to track my reception reports and veries.
> > > >
> > > > Martin Foltz
> > > > Mission Viejo CA
> > > >
> > > >> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2017 23:01:56 -0400
> > > >> From: Mark Pettifor 
> > > >> To: IRCA List 
> > > >> Subject: [IRCA] Old school logging
> > > >>
> > > >> Greetings all,
> > > >>
> > > >> Just wondering what your favorite log pages are for keeping logs of
> > BCB
> > > >> DX. I made a spreadsheet a while back, but in hindsight, it isn't
> the
> > > >> best format. For logging right now I've just been writing stuff down
> > in
> > > >> a small spiral notebook, and then transferring it later to the
> > > >> spreadsheet. That seems like double-work to me. (Not that I'm lazy
> or
> > > >> anything...)
> > > >>
> > > >> Are there some good pages already made out there on the webz
> somewhere
> > > >> for downloading that are good? I'm thinking of going old school and
> > > >> having a handwritten logbook in a 3-ring binder, with tabs for each
> > > >> frequency. Or something like that.
> > > >>
> > > >> How do you keep your logs and how do you organize them?
> > > >>
> > > >> Mark "Disorganized" Pettifor
> > > >> Goshen, IN
> > > > ___
> > > > IRCA mailing list
> > > > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> > > > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> > > >
> > > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the
> > > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the
> > > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
> > > >
> > > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> > > >
> > > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > > >
> > > ___
> > > IRCA mailing list
> > > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> > > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> > >
> > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the
> > > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the
> > > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, 

Re: [IRCA] Old school logging

[Russ Edmunds]

First, I'll note that I've been mostly inactive the past couple of years,
and the only reports I send out are from DX Tests, and even those ( Such as
WBOB-600 ) don't always respond even with recordings.

I agree with others than sometimes a recording isn't practical, such as on
my short drive to work around SR.

I migrated all of my logs for AM, FM, & LW to Access databases a few years
ago ( previously they'd been in Excel). I use Access because it's a
database where I can generate any sort of output file in terms of selection
or sort. I don't use a paper backup, rather I regularly update 2 backup
copies contained on memory sticks, one of which is stored offsite.


Russ Edmunds
15 mi NW Phila
Grid FN20id


AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (3) barefoot w/whip
FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 4); Sony XDRS3HD;
modified Sony ICF2010's (2) w/APS9B @ 15';
modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip


On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 9:56 PM, Russ Johnson  wrote:

> I do.
>
> I handwrite in a paper log (I use an ARRL ham radio logbook and modify the
> columns).  Then transfer to excel spreadsheet when convenient.
> Periodically back it up to an external hard drive.
>
> I can't think of any "logging power" one would need beyond what you can do
> in a spreadsheet.  At least not for me.
>
> Russ Johnson
> Lexington NC
>
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 9:50 PM Mike Sanburn 
> wrote:
>
> > I have often wondered how many DXers use Excel spreadsheet as an AM radio
> > log? It is always a good idea to keep things backed up with some old
> school
> > hard copy, ie paper. How many official logging software brands do we know
> > of know?  ms
> >
> > Sent from my iPod
> >
> > > On Oct 8, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Martin Foltz  wrote:
> > >
> > > Mark,
> > >
> > > I write details in a Composition book for what I hear daily.
> > > My log is a Microsoft Excel file that I have developed over time. It
> has
> > several tabs. The main log tab has all the usual columns for frequency,
> > calls, city, state, format, etc. Another tab is statistics that
> > automatically counts how many stations heard in each state and province.
> > Other tabs are to track my reception reports and veries.
> > >
> > > Martin Foltz
> > > Mission Viejo CA
> > >
> > >> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2017 23:01:56 -0400
> > >> From: Mark Pettifor 
> > >> To: IRCA List 
> > >> Subject: [IRCA] Old school logging
> > >>
> > >> Greetings all,
> > >>
> > >> Just wondering what your favorite log pages are for keeping logs of
> BCB
> > >> DX. I made a spreadsheet a while back, but in hindsight, it isn't the
> > >> best format. For logging right now I've just been writing stuff down
> in
> > >> a small spiral notebook, and then transferring it later to the
> > >> spreadsheet. That seems like double-work to me. (Not that I'm lazy or
> > >> anything...)
> > >>
> > >> Are there some good pages already made out there on the webz somewhere
> > >> for downloading that are good? I'm thinking of going old school and
> > >> having a handwritten logbook in a 3-ring binder, with tabs for each
> > >> frequency. Or something like that.
> > >>
> > >> How do you keep your logs and how do you organize them?
> > >>
> > >> Mark "Disorganized" Pettifor
> > >> Goshen, IN
> > > ___
> > > IRCA mailing list
> > > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> > > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> > >
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> > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the
> > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
> > >
> > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> > >
> > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > >
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> >
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> > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
> >
> > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> >
> > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> >
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> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
>
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>
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>
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Re: [IRCA] September, 2017 Michigan BCB logs

[Tim Tromp]

For Mark and anyone else interested,

Nothing wrong with old-school paper logs but I migrated my Excel logs over
to mwlist.org several years ago.  It's a web-based station database that
also allows logging, map plotting, distance and azimuth calculations, and
much more after registering (free).  The database, sorted by frequency, can
then be filtered by country, state, bearing (useful when targeting stations
only from a particular direction from you, such as during an au opening),
etc.  Logs can also be exported at any time to Excel for backup.  I believe
there's also a way to export them to Google Earth.  Logs are also
automatically plotted on a map for others to see.  For example, here are my
Sept.10th auroral logs displayed on the map:

http://www.mwlist.org/mw_logmap.php?omid=194=2017-09-10

As far as I know, mwlist.org doesn't have a simple way to auto-calculate GY
totals, but it's simply a matter of picking a GY frequency and counting the
number of stations that appear highlighted (logged) in the station list.

Email me offlist and I can provide more info, screenshots if needed, etc.

73,
-Tim



On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Mark Pettifor  wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> Looks good! I also like how Rob Ross's logs look.
>
> Question:
>
> I'm trying to get a good system in place for keeping logs. Up to now, I've
> been using a spreadsheet, and a small spiral notebook. I take initial notes
> in the notebook, then transfer them to the spreadsheet. Trouble is, when I
> made the spreadsheet, I used two rows per entry, which makes it impossible
> to sort by different fields (state, frequency, etc).
>
> I also like the idea of old-fashioned log sheets kept in a 3-ring binder.
> Kind of like the NRC AM logbook. Maybe have a tab / separator page for each
> frequency.
>
> Are there any log sheets out there on the internet for downloading? I've
> looked and can't find anything. I guess maybe I'll just make my own, and
> make it how I want.
>
> The problem with old-fashioned paper is sorting and numbering. I can sort
> (have sections) by Country/State, or by Frequency, or some other category,
> but how can I tell at a glance how many total logs there are, or how many
> GYs I've logged, or etc? I wonder how it was done in the "old days" before
> computers?
>
> Maybe I should ask one of the old-timers
>
> I'm thinking more and more about putting up two DKaz antennas, and make
> them reversible. One oriented E-W, the other oriented N-S. I need to
> experiment more on a possible location for the E-W one that is more
> permanent. (Where it's at now is in the middle of the yard, just for
> testing.)
>
> I also need to post the results of some testing I did with a LoG
> (basically a square rhombic) a week ago. Better than I'd hoped! Not as
> noisy as I thought it would be, and it got me some new logs in Texas, and
> was generally good to the S and W. It was 140 feet per side, and was fed on
> the NW corner, making it directional to the NE and SW, which it generally
> was, with a deep null to the SE. I may put that out after the last mowing,
> in case I don't get a permanent E-W DKaz.
>
> I keep telling myself that some day soon I'll have a permanent antenna
> setup. Who am I kidding? I love to experiment. :^)
>
> Well that's enough rambling for now.
>
> 73,
> Mark Pettifor
> Goshen, IN
>
>
>
> On 2017-10-08 7:16 am, Tim Tromp wrote:
>
>> I'm trying out a new logging format inspired from Rob Ross (Rob, I hope
>> you
>> don't mind!)  Hopefully the formatting doesn't blow up after I hit the
>> "send" button.
>>
>> September was a productive month thanks to a few decent au nights here.
>> Some deep south GY logs are represented below and a new one from
>> Nicaragua.  27 new logs in total for the month of September, 2017!
>>
>> If this message gets cut-off, I've also posted it to:
>> http://blog.amdxer.com/september-2017-michigan-bcb-logs/
>>
>>
>> Domestics:
>>
>> =
>> 540 WFLF Pine Hills, FL. Sept.11,2017 0059 UTC
>>
>> I'm probably the last guy in the Midwest to log this one,
>> but finally...Very poor but alone on the channel during
>> au cx with lengthy multi-call ID at TOH then into
>> FOX News, best in USB to avoid strong Nicaraguan
>> het on 539.86 kHz.
>>
>> ANTENNA: South DKAZ 1046 miles 50kw
>>
>> NEW LOG TROMP-MI
>> =
>> 630 WAIZ Hickory, NC. Sept.9,2017 0959 UTC
>>
>> Poor, down in the mix during semi-au cx with faint calls
>> and mention of 105.9 FM, WLAP surprisingly way down in
>> the noise.
>>
>> ANTENNA: South DKAZ 577 miles 1kw/57w
>>
>> NEW LOG TROMP-MI
>> =
>> 640 WFNC Fayetteville, NC. Sept.9,2017 0959 UTC
>>
>> Very weak with calls and jingle and into CBS News at TOH
>> while under a strong Radio Progreso during semi-au cx.
>>
>> ANTENNA: South DKAZ 680 miles 10kw/1kw
>>
>> NEW LOG TROMP-MI
>>