[IRCA] 747-Ta or TP?

2009-11-19 Thread bill kral
11-18-09   23;00 PST --Victoria BC  Strong whistle between 740 and 750 with 
possible audio with spanish male voice but not clear enough to ID the language 
in and out for about 15 minutes until fading .Was that a TA or TP.Is it 
possible for signals to hop across both oceans at this time? Appreciate any 
tips on this one.Thanks.Bill in BC


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Re: [IRCA] 747-Ta or TP?

2009-11-19 Thread satya
Hi Bill:

I had near-audio on 747 last night as well but couldn't pull out any words
- too much slop from 750.  747 on the TA side is likely either the
Netherlands or Bulgaria, with Iran or Syria also in the mix - how sure are
you that it was Spanish?  Radio Nacional in Spain on 747 is only 5 kw,
which would be g reat catch but pretty tough.  I like to use
http://www.hermanboel.eu/emwg/online-mw1.htm
for TA info (which is where I got the above info).

TPs start coming in around that time this time of year, but there aren't
any Spanish TPs that I know of.

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA


 11-18-09   23;00 PST --Victoria BC  Strong whistle between 740 and 750
 with possible audio with spanish male voice but not clear enough to ID the
 language in and out for about 15 minutes until fading .Was that a TA or
 TP.Is it possible for signals to hop across both oceans at this time?
 Appreciate any tips on this one.Thanks.Bill in BC


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Re: [IRCA] 747-Ta or TP?

2009-11-19 Thread Barry McLarnon
On Thursday 19 November 2009 14:53, sa...@sounddsl.com wrote:
 Hi Bill:

 I had near-audio on 747 last night as well but couldn't pull out
 any words - too much slop from 750.  747 on the TA side is likely
 either the Netherlands or Bulgaria, with Iran or Syria also in the
 mix - how sure are you that it was Spanish?  Radio Nacional in
 Spain on 747 is only 5 kw, which would be g reat catch but pretty
 tough.  I like to use http://www.hermanboel.eu/emwg/online-mw1.htm
 for TA info (which is where I got the above info).

Don't forget the Canary Islands station, which is 20 kW and obviously 
in a good position to get sea gain to help launch strong low angle 
skywaves.  Along with Holland, they are the 747 TAs normally heard 
here.  Bill heard the station at 0700 UTC, and sunrise today at the 
Las Palmas transmitter location is not until 0727, so it's entirely 
plausible that Bill could hear them at that time.

Barry

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Re: [IRCA] 747-Ta or TP?

2009-11-19 Thread Bill Harms
Another possibility would be Canary Islands.  They are in the clear here 
on the East Coast. They would probably be the last one to fade out/


Bill Harms

sa...@sounddsl.com wrote:

Hi Bill:

I had near-audio on 747 last night as well but couldn't pull out any words
- too much slop from 750.  747 on the TA side is likely either the
Netherlands or Bulgaria, with Iran or Syria also in the mix - how sure are
you that it was Spanish?  Radio Nacional in Spain on 747 is only 5 kw,
which would be g reat catch but pretty tough.  I like to use
http://www.hermanboel.eu/emwg/online-mw1.htm
for TA info (which is where I got the above info).

TPs start coming in around that time this time of year, but there aren't
any Spanish TPs that I know of.

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA


  


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Re: [IRCA] 747-Ta or TP?

2009-11-19 Thread Donald K. Kaskey

Barry McLarnon wrote:

On Thursday 19 November 2009 14:53, sa...@sounddsl.com wrote:
  

Hi Bill:

I had near-audio on 747 last night as well but couldn't pull out
any words - too much slop from 750.  747 on the TA side is likely
either the Netherlands or Bulgaria, with Iran or Syria also in the
mix - how sure are you that it was Spanish?  Radio Nacional in
Spain on 747 is only 5 kw, which would be g reat catch but pretty
tough.  I like to use http://www.hermanboel.eu/emwg/online-mw1.htm
for TA info (which is where I got the above info).



Don't forget the Canary Islands station, which is 20 kW and obviously 
in a good position to get sea gain to help launch strong low angle 
skywaves.  Along with Holland, they are the 747 TAs normally heard 
here.  Bill heard the station at 0700 UTC, and sunrise today at the 
Las Palmas transmitter location is not until 0727, so it's entirely 
plausible that Bill could hear them at that time.


Barry

  
   Plus the fact that JOUB runs Japanese to Spanish lessons at times.  
I've heard them at local sunrise.  Don't know if they would have them at 
11pm PST or not.  But, indeed a possibility.  Especially with their power.


Don K.
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Re: [IRCA] 747-Ta or TP?

2009-11-19 Thread Nick Hall-Patch



 11-18-09   23;00 PST --Victoria BC  Strong whistle between 740 and 750
 with possible audio with spanish male voice but not clear enough to ID the
 language in and out for about 15 minutes until fading .Was that a TA or
 TP.Is it possible for signals to hop across both oceans at this time?
 Appreciate any tips on this one.Thanks.Bill in BC

TPs were really starting to bang in at that time last night Bill, and TAs 
weren't that great, so I suspect you had Sapporo, Japan (Japanese can sound a 
bit like Spanish if there's lots of interference; of course, the Japanese 
network that uses 747 has different language lessons, but they don't have 
Spanish listed at this time) .   

And yes, the last little while we've had stuff from Europe coming in still, 
even as the TPs start to fade in as well.   747 is a possible frequency for 
that, as Holland sunrise and Sapporo sunset are both around 0700UT, and the 
Dutch station on 747 has been heard here this season.  

best wishes,

Nick



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Re: [IRCA] 747-Ta or TP?

2009-11-19 Thread Walter Salmaniw

Nick Hall-Patch wrote:


11-18-09   23;00 PST --Victoria BC  Strong whistle between 740 and 750
with possible audio with spanish male voice but not clear enough to ID the
language in and out for about 15 minutes until fading .Was that a TA or
TP.Is it possible for signals to hop across both oceans at this time?
Appreciate any tips on this one.Thanks.Bill in BC
  


TPs were really starting to bang in at that time last night Bill, and TAs weren't that great, so I suspect you had Sapporo, Japan (Japanese can sound a bit like Spanish if there's lots of interference; of course, the Japanese network that uses 747 has different language lessons, but they don't have Spanish listed at this time) .   

And yes, the last little while we've had stuff from Europe coming in still, even as the TPs start to fade in as well.   747 is a possible frequency for that, as Holland sunrise and Sapporo sunset are both around 0700UT, and the Dutch station on 747 has been heard here this season.  


best wishes,

Nick

  
Nick, I've been looking out for JJ but so far haven't heard anything 
from that part of the world..Walt (bobbing around south of Samoa)


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