Re: [IRCA] file size limit...

[R. Colin Newell]

Exactly — treated like idiots as usual...

Colin Newell - Victoria - B.C. CANADA -

> On Apr 2, 2018, at 5:23 PM, Chuck Hutton <charle...@msn.com> wrote:
> 
> And another courtesy would have been to inform us of the change instead if 
> waiting until the subject was brought up again.
> 
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> From: IRCA <irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com> on behalf of R. Colin Newell 
> <coffeecan...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 4:53 PM
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> Subject: Re: [IRCA] file size limit...
> 
> Why, after almost 40+ years of posting to paper and email lists, do I not 
> even warrant an email reply?
> 
> 60kb is good. 90 or 100 is better.
> That sort of brings us into the 21st century...
> 
> I’ll remind our readers that there is now a MW DXer list on the internet 
> dedicated to long winded discussions on the minutiae of the hobby - with file 
> and photo uploads... with a multi megabyte file limit...
> 
> Curious - email me off list.
> 
> Colin Newell - Victoria - B.C. CANADA -
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2018, at 2:01 PM, Bruce Portzer <bport...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I sent him one several weeks ago, and got a quick reply.  He bumped the 
>> limit up to 60 kB.  Do we need to have it increased again?
>> 
>> Bruce
>> 
>>> 
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Re: [IRCA] file size limit...

[Chuck Hutton]

And another courtesy would have been to inform us of the change instead if 
waiting until the subject was brought up again.


Chuck



From: IRCA <irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com> on behalf of R. Colin Newell 
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] file size limit...

Why, after almost 40+ years of posting to paper and email lists, do I not even 
warrant an email reply?

60kb is good. 90 or 100 is better.
That sort of brings us into the 21st century...

I’ll remind our readers that there is now a MW DXer list on the internet 
dedicated to long winded discussions on the minutiae of the hobby - with file 
and photo uploads... with a multi megabyte file limit...

Curious - email me off list.

Colin Newell - Victoria - B.C. CANADA -

> On Apr 2, 2018, at 2:01 PM, Bruce Portzer <bport...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I sent him one several weeks ago, and got a quick reply.  He bumped the limit 
> up to 60 kB.  Do we need to have it increased again?
>
> Bruce
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Re: [IRCA] file size limit...

[R. Colin Newell]

Why, after almost 40+ years of posting to paper and email lists, do I not even 
warrant an email reply? 

60kb is good. 90 or 100 is better. 
That sort of brings us into the 21st century...

I’ll remind our readers that there is now a MW DXer list on the internet 
dedicated to long winded discussions on the minutiae of the hobby - with file 
and photo uploads... with a multi megabyte file limit...

Curious - email me off list. 

Colin Newell - Victoria - B.C. CANADA -

> On Apr 2, 2018, at 2:01 PM, Bruce Portzer  wrote:
> 
> I sent him one several weeks ago, and got a quick reply.  He bumped the limit 
> up to 60 kB.  Do we need to have it increased again?
> 
> Bruce
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Re: [IRCA] file size limit...

[Bruce Portzer]

I sent him one several weeks ago, and got a quick reply.  He bumped the 
limit up to 60 kB.  Do we need to have it increased again?


Bruce

On 4/2/2018 13:24, R. Colin Newell wrote:

After being encouraged by numerous IRCA list members... I Took the time 3 weeks 
ago to send Risto an email about adjusting the file size limit on IRCA list...

No reply...

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[IRCA] file size limit...

[R. Colin Newell]

After being encouraged by numerous IRCA list members... I Took the time 3 weeks 
ago to send Risto an email about adjusting the file size limit on IRCA list... 

No reply... 

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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[coffee_canuck]

No offense taken - we have all been at this hobby a long time.

Is good to clear the air occasionally.

We can talk details over coffee. 

Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC

> On Sep 5, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Nick Hall-Patch  wrote:
> 
> At 23:22 05-09-16, you wrote:
>> I'm not going to call you in public on this Colin.
> 
> 
> 
> My apologies  to the list and especially to Colin.   I thought I'd pulled the 
> address to the list out of this, and apparently I didn't. Please 
> delete, however much I know that you can't.
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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Nick Hall-Patch]

At 23:22 05-09-16, you wrote:

I'm not going to call you in public on this Colin.




My apologies  to the list and especially to Colin.   I thought I'd 
pulled the address to the list out of this, and apparently I 
didn't. Please delete, however much I know that you can't.


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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Nick Hall-Patch]

I'm not going to call you in public on this Colin...not this time, 
but I do think you are sailing close to the edge with this 
sniping.  (After I wrote this, I sat on it for several hours to see 
if I would like to change my mind about sending itand now I  see 
that you are thinking of offering file upload service, so now I think 
I had better)


File upload?   Did that work on the original ircaonline.com 
site?   You couldn't make it work when I came over to ask how it 
could be done, so that I could reference a couple of sound files in a 
technical column (one of those users trying to make the new site 
work).  If you couldn't get it to work, how the heck did you expect 
me or any other user make it work?Your approach seemed to be let 
the user define how it should be done, including learning the skills 
that you already have, and that most don't, and (shock horror) are 
not interested in acquiring.   File upload is simple on IRCA's 
present (fill in the blank with dismissive adjectives provided by the 
usual suspects) site, how could it be so complicated on the state of 
the art site suitable for tomorrow?And if file upload  was beyond 
the site's capability for the average user, how on earth could anyone 
contribute to the site at all?  I'm not saying it's easy to set up (I 
honestly don't know, though it seems to be a common capability in the 
rest of the world).  All I know is that we weren't able to do it when 
I needed to.   So I went home and used the old IRCA site, less than a 
minute and it was done.   Mind you, I can't delete them now, so I 
guess I have my permanent archive, whether I like it or not, hi.


I don't know who suggested that you "Host every radio related file 
(currently scattered around the internet)
that anyone could want in one place.."   I believe I suggested that 
it would be a great place to permanently archive various technical 
documents that IRCA had generated, seeing it would have been IRCA's 
permanent site, and a resource for members, hopefully without dead 
links in the future.  And yes, it could reference sound files, video 
etc. as examples of what was being discussed.   I'm sorry if you 
misunderstood that suggestion,  as it wasn't meant to involve you 
going out and hunting for such articles, simply to provide a 
repository and suitable links using the latest tools that you 
presumably knew all about Probably someone like the IRCA 
Technical Editor could have done it, but not with having to crawl 
around in the basement of Linux or whatever, sorry.I don't know 
what others' experience was when discussing the new website with you 
was like, but I'm afraid I got the impression that there wasn't a lot 
of interest in mutual development of ideas when I attempted it.   I 
did appreciate your hospitality however!


I think that website construction is a skill.  You have it (see 
DXer.ca).  But to expect the rest of us to acquire your skill seems a 
bit much.


I have and have had other thoughts on forums etc., but really, once 
someone says to you I'd rather use my e-mail client for a forum 
rather than go to a specific website, and is ignored, they sort of 
know what's on offer.  (people feel the same way about Yahoo's 
interface too, but at least they provide a window for the user to do 
it their way)


I apologize if I seem to be offensive here, but to me these are big 
concerns when you go offering services, perhaps with someone else's 
name attached.   Unless file attachment service is part of a forum, 
does it solve the supposed problem?


best wishes,

Nick






At 18:06 05-09-16, you wrote:

Agree with Chuck - putting eggs in one basket is kind of a bad idea.

I ran up a Beta IRCAonline.com website for 6 - 8 months
complete with forum and ability to upload unlimited messages and files
and no one took any notice of it - so I took it down.

One thing that should be acknowledged is that everyones vision is different.

Of the little feedback that I got, a few people suggested that it needed to:

a.) Hold gigabyte Perseus files... indefinitely
b.) Host every radio related file (currently scattered around the internet)
that anyone could want in one place...
which seemed a bit impractical.
c.) Manage the IRCA membership (that was the easy part...)

This is the 21st Century after all - but we have a wide variety of people
with
wildly varying visions of what a "one stop radio shop" should look like.


>
> Someone mentioned Guy Atkins' site as being good. Well, it was good. But
> it went away many years ago. We don't want to rely on 1 person - again we
> need a club solution.
>
>
> BTW, you wrote that a 1 MB limit would keep audio files off the list. All
> of the audio clips I have are under 1 MB, using low rate mp3 as that is
> adequate for AM DX. So how would 1 MB do what you say?
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Russ Edmunds]

Colin, I did spend some time on your prototype site last year, and although
I had no comments - thought it was fine - I never managed to say so...

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On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 6:24 PM, R. Colin Newell 
wrote:

> Agreed - 300k would be an awesome upper limit because you could attach
> PDF's
> and screen grabs and MP3's -
>
> And *drum roll* - I am inspired enough by this burst of interest (it is the
> dawn of
> DX season after all...) to kick-start the "IRCAonline.com" project in one
> way or another...
> maybe something that is more suited to this active venue than club
> membership - dunno -
> The IRCA exec might have something to say about this course of action --
> but the domain is technically mine to do what I want with it - scooped it
> up
> from the public domain...
>
> OR
>
> use another domain to create an activity space for this IRCA list.
>
> Bottom line: I am looking for interest and activity and NOT interested
> in angering anyone or leaving anyone out.
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Walter Salmaniw  wrote:
>
> > I too like the idea of *short* MP3 clips.  For a DX list, that's all
> that's
> > needed.  For longer, program files, like Paul likes to post, an
> alternative
> > site works better.  My favourite postings are those from a DXpedition
> > accompanied by short MP3 clips.  73,  Walt
> >
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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Russ Edmunds]

Even for a DX test, I don't think I have any audio files exceeding 2 mb.
Most of mine are Less than 1 mb.

For MW DX purposes it really doesn't gain anything to use. I usually record
at 64kbit; 24kHz because I use the same recording jobs for FM as well. For
AM, 32kbit, 12kHz ought to be enough.

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On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Walter Salmaniw <can...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I too like the idea of *short* MP3 clips.  For a DX list, that's all that's
> needed.  For longer, program files, like Paul likes to post, an alternative
> site works better.  My favourite postings are those from a DXpedition
> accompanied by short MP3 clips.  73,  Walt
>
> On Monday, September 5, 2016, Chuck Hutton <charle...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> > As I wrote earlier, there are a thousand solutions.
> >
> > But a thousand solutions means there is no centralized place for
> > recordings..
> >
> > Someone mentioned Guy Atkins' site as being good. Well, it was good. But
> > it went away many years ago. We don't want to rely on 1 person - again we
> > need a club solution.
> >
> >
> > BTW, you wrote that a 1 MB limit would keep audio files off the list. All
> > of the audio clips I have are under 1 MB, using low rate mp3 as that is
> > adequate for AM DX. So how would 1 MB do what you say?
> >
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: IRCA <irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com <javascript:;>> on behalf of
> > Paul B. Walker, Jr. <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 4:12 PM
> > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> > Cc: Mark Connelly
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit
> >
> > I will say soundcloud is real easy. If you have an audio file you want to
> > share, log in/sign up for soundcloud, get the audio file to your
> computer,
> > upload it, give it a title ,description and click save.  will take you
> less
> > then 5 mintues.. and i could teach my somewhat computer litterate mother
> to
> > do it if she asked point is, its easy
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Mark Connelly via IRCA <
> > irca@hard-core-dx.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
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> > > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com <javascript:;>
> > > Cc:
> > > Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 12:10:22 -0400
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit
> > > <<
> > > I say up the limit to like 500k-1meg, tops. Would allow for long logs
> to
> > > be posted but keep audio files off the list.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > > >>
> > >
> > > I agree with Paul.  Since (in the present configuration) we are limited
> > to
> > > plain text anyway, formatted documents, audio, pictures, and video are
> > off
> > > the table.  Unless the whole list scheme is changed, you'll need to put
> > > your DOC, PDF, PPT, XLS, WAV, MP3, AVI, etc. files somewhere else that
> > can
> > > be accessed via hyperlink in your plain text.
> > >
> > > 1 meg will cover any plain text DXpedition report.  Even the biggest
> > > Newfie, Grayland, Rockworks, and Lemmenjoki ones clock in at less than
> > that.
> > >
> > > 35k limit is sillier than a silly ballgame.  A two hour Perse

Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Russ Edmunds]

Google Groups typically can accommodate attachments but I haven't pursued
what the max is. Even as a user,
I'm concerned about privacy with Google. But is definitely more cumbersome
for moderators.

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On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Eric Floden  wrote:

> As a user ( not a moderator ) l very much like Google Groups.  The ones l
> use allow some large attachments but l assume that is customizeable...
>
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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Chuck Hutton]

That I bet is because they are not DX clips but lengthy air checks.

I think you are the corner case and need a different solution.


Chuck


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Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 4:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit

Ok, scooch the level down to 500kb most.. not all.. but 90 percent of
my audio files of logs are well voer 5 mb

Paul

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Chuck Hutton <charle...@msn.com> wrote:

> As I wrote earlier, there are a thousand solutions.
>
> But a thousand solutions means there is no centralized place for
> recordings..
>
> Someone mentioned Guy Atkins' site as being good. Well, it was good. But
> it went away many years ago. We don't want to rely on 1 person - again we
> need a club solution.
>
>
> BTW, you wrote that a 1 MB limit would keep audio files off the list. All
> of the audio clips I have are under 1 MB, using low rate mp3 as that is
> adequate for AM DX. So how would 1 MB do what you say?
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
> 
> From: IRCA <irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com> on behalf of Paul B. Walker,
> Jr. <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 4:12 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Cc: Mark Connelly
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit
>
> I will say soundcloud is real easy. If you have an audio file you want to
> share, log in/sign up for soundcloud, get the audio file to your computer,
> upload it, give it a title ,description and click save.  will take you less
> then 5 mintues.. and i could teach my somewhat computer litterate mother to
> do it if she asked point is, its easy
>
> Paul
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Mark Connelly via IRCA <
> irca@hard-core-dx.com> wrote:
>
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> > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > Cc:
> > Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 12:10:22 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit
> > <<
> > I say up the limit to like 500k-1meg, tops. Would allow for long logs to
> > be posted but keep audio files off the list.
> >
> > Paul
> > >>
> >
> > I agree with Paul.  Since (in the present configuration) we are limited
> to
> > plain text anyway, formatted documents, audio, pictures, and video are
> off
> > the table.  Unless the whole list scheme is changed, you'll need to put
> > your DOC, PDF, PPT, XLS, WAV, MP3, AVI, etc. files somewhere else that
> can
> > be accessed via hyperlink in your plain text.
> >
> > 1 meg will cover any plain text DXpedition report.  Even the biggest
> > Newfie, Grayland, Rockworks, and Lemmenjoki ones clock in at less than
> that.
> >
> > 35k limit is sillier than a silly ballgame.  A two hour Perseus session
> at
> > any serious coastal DXpedition site will give you more material than you
> > can post with any adequate degree of description.
> >
> > Has anyone thought of going to a Yahoo Group, as is done by the UK's
> > Medium Wave Circle and some local DX groups (e.g. Cape Cod DXers, Boston
> > Area DXers)?
> >
> > Yahoo provides file storage that is adequate for photo's, DOC/PDF
> > articles, and short audio clips.  Perseus / Elad / Excalibur / Afedri
> > captures?  You're on your own for that.  Box, Dropbox, Mediafire and
> others
> > are out there.  A limited amount of free sharing is possible though
> > pay-to-play is necessary for power users.
> >
> > Guy Atkins once had a great site "Five Below" where Perseus users could
> > share captures but since that went away, there's no single "go to" zone
> for
> > that activity now.
> >
> > Colin Newell

Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[R. Colin Newell]

Agreed - 300k would be an awesome upper limit because you could attach PDF's
and screen grabs and MP3's -

And *drum roll* - I am inspired enough by this burst of interest (it is the
dawn of
DX season after all...) to kick-start the "IRCAonline.com" project in one
way or another...
maybe something that is more suited to this active venue than club
membership - dunno -
The IRCA exec might have something to say about this course of action --
but the domain is technically mine to do what I want with it - scooped it up
from the public domain...

OR

use another domain to create an activity space for this IRCA list.

Bottom line: I am looking for interest and activity and NOT interested
in angering anyone or leaving anyone out.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 3:12 PM, Walter Salmaniw  wrote:

> I too like the idea of *short* MP3 clips.  For a DX list, that's all that's
> needed.  For longer, program files, like Paul likes to post, an alternative
> site works better.  My favourite postings are those from a DXpedition
> accompanied by short MP3 clips.  73,  Walt
>

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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Walter Salmaniw]

I too like the idea of *short* MP3 clips.  For a DX list, that's all that's
needed.  For longer, program files, like Paul likes to post, an alternative
site works better.  My favourite postings are those from a DXpedition
accompanied by short MP3 clips.  73,  Walt

On Monday, September 5, 2016, Chuck Hutton <charle...@msn.com> wrote:

> As I wrote earlier, there are a thousand solutions.
>
> But a thousand solutions means there is no centralized place for
> recordings..
>
> Someone mentioned Guy Atkins' site as being good. Well, it was good. But
> it went away many years ago. We don't want to rely on 1 person - again we
> need a club solution.
>
>
> BTW, you wrote that a 1 MB limit would keep audio files off the list. All
> of the audio clips I have are under 1 MB, using low rate mp3 as that is
> adequate for AM DX. So how would 1 MB do what you say?
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
> 
> From: IRCA <irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com <javascript:;>> on behalf of
> Paul B. Walker, Jr. <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 4:12 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Cc: Mark Connelly
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit
>
> I will say soundcloud is real easy. If you have an audio file you want to
> share, log in/sign up for soundcloud, get the audio file to your computer,
> upload it, give it a title ,description and click save.  will take you less
> then 5 mintues.. and i could teach my somewhat computer litterate mother to
> do it if she asked point is, its easy
>
> Paul
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Mark Connelly via IRCA <
> irca@hard-core-dx.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
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> > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com <javascript:;>
> > Cc:
> > Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 12:10:22 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit
> > <<
> > I say up the limit to like 500k-1meg, tops. Would allow for long logs to
> > be posted but keep audio files off the list.
> >
> > Paul
> > >>
> >
> > I agree with Paul.  Since (in the present configuration) we are limited
> to
> > plain text anyway, formatted documents, audio, pictures, and video are
> off
> > the table.  Unless the whole list scheme is changed, you'll need to put
> > your DOC, PDF, PPT, XLS, WAV, MP3, AVI, etc. files somewhere else that
> can
> > be accessed via hyperlink in your plain text.
> >
> > 1 meg will cover any plain text DXpedition report.  Even the biggest
> > Newfie, Grayland, Rockworks, and Lemmenjoki ones clock in at less than
> that.
> >
> > 35k limit is sillier than a silly ballgame.  A two hour Perseus session
> at
> > any serious coastal DXpedition site will give you more material than you
> > can post with any adequate degree of description.
> >
> > Has anyone thought of going to a Yahoo Group, as is done by the UK's
> > Medium Wave Circle and some local DX groups (e.g. Cape Cod DXers, Boston
> > Area DXers)?
> >
> > Yahoo provides file storage that is adequate for photo's, DOC/PDF
> > articles, and short audio clips.  Perseus / Elad / Excalibur / Afedri
> > captures?  You're on your own for that.  Box, Dropbox, Mediafire and
> others
> > are out there.  A limited amount of free sharing is possible though
> > pay-to-play is necessary for power users.
> >
> > Guy Atkins once had a great site "Five Below" where Perseus users could
> > share captures but since that went away, there's no single "go to" zone
> for
> > that activity now.
> >
> > Colin Newell was doing some work on a revised IRCA webpage.  I'm not sure
> > if an email server was part of the plan.
> >
> > Mark 

Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[R. Colin Newell]

Agree with Chuck - putting eggs in one basket is kind of a bad idea.

I ran up a Beta IRCAonline.com website for 6 - 8 months
complete with forum and ability to upload unlimited messages and files
and no one took any notice of it - so I took it down.

One thing that should be acknowledged is that everyones vision is different.

Of the little feedback that I got, a few people suggested that it needed to:

a.) Hold gigabyte Perseus files... indefinitely
b.) Host every radio related file (currently scattered around the internet)
that anyone could want in one place...
which seemed a bit impractical.
c.) Manage the IRCA membership (that was the easy part...)

This is the 21st Century after all - but we have a wide variety of people
with
wildly varying visions of what a "one stop radio shop" should look like.


>
> Someone mentioned Guy Atkins' site as being good. Well, it was good. But
> it went away many years ago. We don't want to rely on 1 person - again we
> need a club solution.
>
>
> BTW, you wrote that a 1 MB limit would keep audio files off the list. All
> of the audio clips I have are under 1 MB, using low rate mp3 as that is
> adequate for AM DX. So how would 1 MB do what you say?
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
> 
>
>


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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Eric Floden]

As a user ( not a moderator ) l very much like Google Groups.  The ones l
use allow some large attachments but l assume that is customizeable...

Eric Floden
Golden Lake ON
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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

Ok, scooch the level down to 500kb most.. not all.. but 90 percent of
my audio files of logs are well voer 5 mb

Paul

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Chuck Hutton <charle...@msn.com> wrote:

> As I wrote earlier, there are a thousand solutions.
>
> But a thousand solutions means there is no centralized place for
> recordings..
>
> Someone mentioned Guy Atkins' site as being good. Well, it was good. But
> it went away many years ago. We don't want to rely on 1 person - again we
> need a club solution.
>
>
> BTW, you wrote that a 1 MB limit would keep audio files off the list. All
> of the audio clips I have are under 1 MB, using low rate mp3 as that is
> adequate for AM DX. So how would 1 MB do what you say?
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
> 
> From: IRCA <irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com> on behalf of Paul B. Walker,
> Jr. <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 4:12 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Cc: Mark Connelly
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit
>
> I will say soundcloud is real easy. If you have an audio file you want to
> share, log in/sign up for soundcloud, get the audio file to your computer,
> upload it, give it a title ,description and click save.  will take you less
> then 5 mintues.. and i could teach my somewhat computer litterate mother to
> do it if she asked point is, its easy
>
> Paul
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Mark Connelly via IRCA <
> irca@hard-core-dx.com> wrote:
>
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> >
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> > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > Cc:
> > Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 12:10:22 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit
> > <<
> > I say up the limit to like 500k-1meg, tops. Would allow for long logs to
> > be posted but keep audio files off the list.
> >
> > Paul
> > >>
> >
> > I agree with Paul.  Since (in the present configuration) we are limited
> to
> > plain text anyway, formatted documents, audio, pictures, and video are
> off
> > the table.  Unless the whole list scheme is changed, you'll need to put
> > your DOC, PDF, PPT, XLS, WAV, MP3, AVI, etc. files somewhere else that
> can
> > be accessed via hyperlink in your plain text.
> >
> > 1 meg will cover any plain text DXpedition report.  Even the biggest
> > Newfie, Grayland, Rockworks, and Lemmenjoki ones clock in at less than
> that.
> >
> > 35k limit is sillier than a silly ballgame.  A two hour Perseus session
> at
> > any serious coastal DXpedition site will give you more material than you
> > can post with any adequate degree of description.
> >
> > Has anyone thought of going to a Yahoo Group, as is done by the UK's
> > Medium Wave Circle and some local DX groups (e.g. Cape Cod DXers, Boston
> > Area DXers)?
> >
> > Yahoo provides file storage that is adequate for photo's, DOC/PDF
> > articles, and short audio clips.  Perseus / Elad / Excalibur / Afedri
> > captures?  You're on your own for that.  Box, Dropbox, Mediafire and
> others
> > are out there.  A limited amount of free sharing is possible though
> > pay-to-play is necessary for power users.
> >
> > Guy Atkins once had a great site "Five Below" where Perseus users could
> > share captures but since that went away, there's no single "go to" zone
> for
> > that activity now.
> >
> > Colin Newell was doing some work on a revised IRCA webpage.  I'm not sure
> > if an email server was part of the plan.
> >
> > Mark Connelly, WA1ION
> > South Yarmouth, MA
> >
> >
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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Chuck Hutton]

As I wrote earlier, there are a thousand solutions.

But a thousand solutions means there is no centralized place for recordings..

Someone mentioned Guy Atkins' site as being good. Well, it was good. But it 
went away many years ago. We don't want to rely on 1 person - again we need a 
club solution.


BTW, you wrote that a 1 MB limit would keep audio files off the list. All of 
the audio clips I have are under 1 MB, using low rate mp3 as that is adequate 
for AM DX. So how would 1 MB do what you say?


Chuck



From: IRCA <irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com> on behalf of Paul B. Walker, Jr. 
<walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 4:12 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Cc: Mark Connelly
Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit

I will say soundcloud is real easy. If you have an audio file you want to
share, log in/sign up for soundcloud, get the audio file to your computer,
upload it, give it a title ,description and click save.  will take you less
then 5 mintues.. and i could teach my somewhat computer litterate mother to
do it if she asked point is, its easy

Paul

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Mark Connelly via IRCA <
irca@hard-core-dx.com> wrote:

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> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Cc:
> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 12:10:22 -0400
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit
> <<
> I say up the limit to like 500k-1meg, tops. Would allow for long logs to
> be posted but keep audio files off the list.
>
> Paul
> >>
>
> I agree with Paul.  Since (in the present configuration) we are limited to
> plain text anyway, formatted documents, audio, pictures, and video are off
> the table.  Unless the whole list scheme is changed, you'll need to put
> your DOC, PDF, PPT, XLS, WAV, MP3, AVI, etc. files somewhere else that can
> be accessed via hyperlink in your plain text.
>
> 1 meg will cover any plain text DXpedition report.  Even the biggest
> Newfie, Grayland, Rockworks, and Lemmenjoki ones clock in at less than that.
>
> 35k limit is sillier than a silly ballgame.  A two hour Perseus session at
> any serious coastal DXpedition site will give you more material than you
> can post with any adequate degree of description.
>
> Has anyone thought of going to a Yahoo Group, as is done by the UK's
> Medium Wave Circle and some local DX groups (e.g. Cape Cod DXers, Boston
> Area DXers)?
>
> Yahoo provides file storage that is adequate for photo's, DOC/PDF
> articles, and short audio clips.  Perseus / Elad / Excalibur / Afedri
> captures?  You're on your own for that.  Box, Dropbox, Mediafire and others
> are out there.  A limited amount of free sharing is possible though
> pay-to-play is necessary for power users.
>
> Guy Atkins once had a great site "Five Below" where Perseus users could
> share captures but since that went away, there's no single "go to" zone for
> that activity now.
>
> Colin Newell was doing some work on a revised IRCA webpage.  I'm not sure
> if an email server was part of the plan.
>
> Mark Connelly, WA1ION
> South Yarmouth, MA
>
>
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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Russ Edmunds]

I would NOT recommend Yahoo Groups. First, the turmoil with Yahoo at a
corporate level doesn't guarantee that Yahoo Groups ( or even mail ) will
be around for the long haul. Second, Yahoo has and has had regular problems
with timely delivery of mail. There are adequate numbers of commercial
entities out there to host groups at reasonable rates, and I'd find it hard
to believe someone else on list doesn't have the capability to host. There
are also a couple of outfits who specialize in hosting groups with both a
website and an e-list.

Google Groups is an option also - more reliable than Yahoo but somewhat
more work for moderators.


Russ Edmunds
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> Cc:
> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 12:10:22 -0400
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit
> <<
> I say up the limit to like 500k-1meg, tops. Would allow for long logs to
> be posted but keep audio files off the list.
>
> Paul
> >>
>
> I agree with Paul.  Since (in the present configuration) we are limited to
> plain text anyway, formatted documents, audio, pictures, and video are off
> the table.  Unless the whole list scheme is changed, you'll need to put
> your DOC, PDF, PPT, XLS, WAV, MP3, AVI, etc. files somewhere else that can
> be accessed via hyperlink in your plain text.
>
> 1 meg will cover any plain text DXpedition report.  Even the biggest
> Newfie, Grayland, Rockworks, and Lemmenjoki ones clock in at less than that.
>
> 35k limit is sillier than a silly ballgame.  A two hour Perseus session at
> any serious coastal DXpedition site will give you more material than you
> can post with any adequate degree of description.
>
> Has anyone thought of going to a Yahoo Group, as is done by the UK's
> Medium Wave Circle and some local DX groups (e.g. Cape Cod DXers, Boston
> Area DXers)?
>
> Yahoo provides file storage that is adequate for photo's, DOC/PDF
> articles, and short audio clips.  Perseus / Elad / Excalibur / Afedri
> captures?  You're on your own for that.  Box, Dropbox, Mediafire and others
> are out there.  A limited amount of free sharing is possible though
> pay-to-play is necessary for power users.
>
> Guy Atkins once had a great site "Five Below" where Perseus users could
> share captures but since that went away, there's no single "go to" zone for
> that activity now.
>
> Colin Newell was doing some work on a revised IRCA webpage.  I'm not sure
> if an email server was part of the plan.
>
> Mark Connelly, WA1ION
> South Yarmouth, MA
>
>
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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

I will say soundcloud is real easy. If you have an audio file you want to
share, log in/sign up for soundcloud, get the audio file to your computer,
upload it, give it a title ,description and click save.  will take you less
then 5 mintues.. and i could teach my somewhat computer litterate mother to
do it if she asked point is, its easy

Paul

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Mark Connelly via IRCA <
irca@hard-core-dx.com> wrote:

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> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Cc:
> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 12:10:22 -0400
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit
> <<
> I say up the limit to like 500k-1meg, tops. Would allow for long logs to
> be posted but keep audio files off the list.
>
> Paul
> >>
>
> I agree with Paul.  Since (in the present configuration) we are limited to
> plain text anyway, formatted documents, audio, pictures, and video are off
> the table.  Unless the whole list scheme is changed, you'll need to put
> your DOC, PDF, PPT, XLS, WAV, MP3, AVI, etc. files somewhere else that can
> be accessed via hyperlink in your plain text.
>
> 1 meg will cover any plain text DXpedition report.  Even the biggest
> Newfie, Grayland, Rockworks, and Lemmenjoki ones clock in at less than that.
>
> 35k limit is sillier than a silly ballgame.  A two hour Perseus session at
> any serious coastal DXpedition site will give you more material than you
> can post with any adequate degree of description.
>
> Has anyone thought of going to a Yahoo Group, as is done by the UK's
> Medium Wave Circle and some local DX groups (e.g. Cape Cod DXers, Boston
> Area DXers)?
>
> Yahoo provides file storage that is adequate for photo's, DOC/PDF
> articles, and short audio clips.  Perseus / Elad / Excalibur / Afedri
> captures?  You're on your own for that.  Box, Dropbox, Mediafire and others
> are out there.  A limited amount of free sharing is possible though
> pay-to-play is necessary for power users.
>
> Guy Atkins once had a great site "Five Below" where Perseus users could
> share captures but since that went away, there's no single "go to" zone for
> that activity now.
>
> Colin Newell was doing some work on a revised IRCA webpage.  I'm not sure
> if an email server was part of the plan.
>
> Mark Connelly, WA1ION
> South Yarmouth, MA
>
>
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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Mark Connelly via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---
<<
I say up the limit to like 500k-1meg, tops. Would allow for long logs to be 
posted but keep audio files off the list.

Paul
>>

I agree with Paul.  Since (in the present configuration) we are limited to 
plain text anyway, formatted documents, audio, pictures, and video are off the 
table.  Unless the whole list scheme is changed, you'll need to put your DOC, 
PDF, PPT, XLS, WAV, MP3, AVI, etc. files somewhere else that can be accessed 
via hyperlink in your plain text.

1 meg will cover any plain text DXpedition report.  Even the biggest Newfie, 
Grayland, Rockworks, and Lemmenjoki ones clock in at less than that.

35k limit is sillier than a silly ballgame.  A two hour Perseus session at any 
serious coastal DXpedition site will give you more material than you can post 
with any adequate degree of description.

Has anyone thought of going to a Yahoo Group, as is done by the UK's Medium 
Wave Circle and some local DX groups (e.g. Cape Cod DXers, Boston Area DXers)?

Yahoo provides file storage that is adequate for photo's, DOC/PDF articles, and 
short audio clips.  Perseus / Elad / Excalibur / Afedri captures?  You're on 
your own for that.  Box, Dropbox, Mediafire and others are out there.  A 
limited amount of free sharing is possible though pay-to-play is necessary for 
power users.

Guy Atkins once had a great site "Five Below" where Perseus users could share 
captures but since that went away, there's no single "go to" zone for that 
activity now.

Colin Newell was doing some work on a revised IRCA webpage.  I'm not sure if an 
email server was part of the plan.

Mark Connelly, WA1ION
South Yarmouth, MA  
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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

I say up the limit to like 500k-1meg, tops. Would allow for long logs to be
posted but keep audio files off the list.

Paul

On Sunday, September 4, 2016, Rick Lewis <rick...@shellworld.net> wrote:

> Chuck,
> In the bad old days of mailing lists, even small files contained worms and
> malware.
> As a moderator, I remember getting nearly 300 rejected copies of one after
> it inadvertently got on the list and low size limits were set so it would
> be
> rejected.
> Fortunately for us, antivirus programs and operating systems have gotten
> smarter, and the bad guys are using different methods.
> It's not much work for a moderator to approve larger messages.
> It's also worth remembering that one person's joy is another's annoyance,
> and lots of people don't appreciate getting large files they didn't
> solicit.
> --
> Rick
> -Original Message-
> From: IRCA [mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com <javascript:;>] On
> Behalf Of Chuck Hutton
> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 3:56 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> <irca@hard-core-dx.com <javascript:;>>
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit
>
> I can't say I like the idea of requiring someone 24 x 7 x 365 to manually
> make the same decision that the list software should do automatically.
>
> Chuck
> 
> From: IRCA <irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com <javascript:;>> on behalf of
> Bill Whitacre
> <b...@his.com <javascript:;>>
> Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 10:39 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit
>
> I don't know Colin.  I'm on an awful lot of Mailman-hosted mail lists.  I
> admin a few myself.  Under normal circumstances the admin gets an email
> whenever a message is held up.  He/she can then go in and moderate it
> through or take any number of actions.  Perhaps all that's needed is a more
> active list admin who can use some judgement and moderate thru some
> oversize
> messages?
>
> May not be the total solution to what you're after but it's a start.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> Bill Whitacre
> Alexandria, VA
>
> -
>
> > On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:53 PM, coffee_canuck <coffeecan...@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > The actual system this email system runs on has long passed its best
> before date -- not even sure that there have been any updates in years.
> >
> > Being blunt: you are barking up the wrong tree if you expect any change
> to
> happen anytime soon.
> >
> > I manage a list exactly like this at UVic with over 1000 readers. I am
> replacing it with MailChimp as we speak. All these ListServ systems are on
> highly borrowed time.
> >
> > Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
> >
> >> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Walter Salmaniw <can...@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Phil, my beef is trying to send DXpedition results.   For me, they may
> be
> >> over a week or more, when I'm at my DX heaven in Masset.  Invariably,
> >> I go over the 35 kb limit.  When typing, I have no idea when I get
> close.
> >> That's what's so frustrating to me.  I feel like asking, "what's the
> >> point?".  Personally, I think a several MB limit makes sense,
> >> especially allowing for small audio clips, as well, without having to
> use
> a host.
> >> 73,...Walt
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Phil Bytheway via IRCA <
> >> irca@hard-core-dx.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Rick Lewis]

Chuck,
In the bad old days of mailing lists, even small files contained worms and
malware.
As a moderator, I remember getting nearly 300 rejected copies of one after
it inadvertently got on the list and low size limits were set so it would be
rejected.
Fortunately for us, antivirus programs and operating systems have gotten
smarter, and the bad guys are using different methods. 
It's not much work for a moderator to approve larger messages.
It's also worth remembering that one person's joy is another's annoyance,
and lots of people don't appreciate getting large files they didn't solicit.
--
Rick
-Original Message-
From: IRCA [mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hutton
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 3:56 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
<irca@hard-core-dx.com>
Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit

I can't say I like the idea of requiring someone 24 x 7 x 365 to manually
make the same decision that the list software should do automatically.

Chuck

From: IRCA <irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com> on behalf of Bill Whitacre
<b...@his.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 10:39 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit

I don't know Colin.  I'm on an awful lot of Mailman-hosted mail lists.  I
admin a few myself.  Under normal circumstances the admin gets an email
whenever a message is held up.  He/she can then go in and moderate it
through or take any number of actions.  Perhaps all that's needed is a more
active list admin who can use some judgement and moderate thru some oversize
messages?

May not be the total solution to what you're after but it's a start.

My 2 cents.

Bill Whitacre
Alexandria, VA

-

> On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:53 PM, coffee_canuck <coffeecan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The actual system this email system runs on has long passed its best
before date -- not even sure that there have been any updates in years.
>
> Being blunt: you are barking up the wrong tree if you expect any change to
happen anytime soon.
>
> I manage a list exactly like this at UVic with over 1000 readers. I am
replacing it with MailChimp as we speak. All these ListServ systems are on
highly borrowed time.
>
> Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
>
>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Walter Salmaniw <can...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Phil, my beef is trying to send DXpedition results.   For me, they may be
>> over a week or more, when I'm at my DX heaven in Masset.  Invariably, 
>> I go over the 35 kb limit.  When typing, I have no idea when I get close.
>> That's what's so frustrating to me.  I feel like asking, "what's the 
>> point?".  Personally, I think a several MB limit makes sense, 
>> especially allowing for small audio clips, as well, without having to use
a host.
>> 73,...Walt
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Phil Bytheway via IRCA < 
>> irca@hard-core-dx.com> wrote:
>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Phil Bytheway <phil_te...@yahoo.com>
>>> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America < 
>>> irca@hard-core-dx.com>
>>> Cc:
>>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 20:32:04 + (UTC)
>>> Subject: File size limit
>>> So far, I have not received any form of proposal regarding the file 
>>> size limit.
>>> If I were to get one, with an appropriate "new" limit, I would 
>>> forward it to the IRCA Board of Directors for voting. Nor do I even 
>>> know of the folks hosting our eGroup would be willing to make a change
for us.
>>>
>>> I personally, have no idea what sort of limit to suggest, but I 
>>> would shy away from "unlimited".
>>> Please someone, put something together or it will never happen. Phil 
>>> Bytheway IRCA President
>> 

Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Russ Edmunds]

On lists where that is done, there is not an expectation of instantaneous
action by a moderator. Sometimes, even with multiple moderators, it can be
12-24 hours. That hasn't proven to be a problem on any of the lists where I
am a moderator.

Russ Edmunds
15 mi NW Phila
Grid FN20id
<wb2...@gmail.com>

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On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 6:56 PM, Chuck Hutton <charle...@msn.com> wrote:

> I can't say I like the idea of requiring someone 24 x 7 x 365 to manually
> make the same decision that the list software should do automatically.
>
> Chuck
> 
> From: IRCA <irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com> on behalf of Bill Whitacre <
> b...@his.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 10:39 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit
>
> I don’t know Colin.  I’m on an awful lot of Mailman-hosted mail lists.  I
> admin a few myself.  Under normal circumstances the admin gets an email
> whenever a message is held up.  He/she can then go in and moderate it
> through or take any number of actions.  Perhaps all that’s needed is a more
> active list admin who can use some judgement and moderate thru some
> oversize messages?
>
> May not be the total solution to what you’re after but it’s a start.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> Bill Whitacre
> Alexandria, VA
>
> —
>
> > On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:53 PM, coffee_canuck <coffeecan...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > The actual system this email system runs on has long passed its best
> before date -- not even sure that there have been any updates in years.
> >
> > Being blunt: you are barking up the wrong tree if you expect any change
> to happen anytime soon.
> >
> > I manage a list exactly like this at UVic with over 1000 readers. I am
> replacing it with MailChimp as we speak. All these ListServ systems are on
> highly borrowed time.
> >
> > Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
> >
> >> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Walter Salmaniw <can...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Phil, my beef is trying to send DXpedition results.   For me, they may
> be
> >> over a week or more, when I'm at my DX heaven in Masset.  Invariably, I
> go
> >> over the 35 kb limit.  When typing, I have no idea when I get close.
> >> That's what's so frustrating to me.  I feel like asking, "what's the
> >> point?".  Personally, I think a several MB limit makes sense, especially
> >> allowing for small audio clips, as well, without having to use a host.
> >> 73,...Walt
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Phil Bytheway via IRCA <
> >> irca@hard-core-dx.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> ___
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> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the
> >>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- Forwarded message --
> >>> From: Phil Bytheway <phil_te...@yahoo.com>
> >>> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America <
> >>> irca@hard-core-dx.com>
> >>> Cc:
> >>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 20:32:04 + (UTC)
> >>> Subject: File size limit
> >>> So far, I have not received any form of proposal regarding the file
> size
> >>> limit.
> >>> If I were to get one, with an appropriate "new" limit, I would forward
> it
> >>> to the IRCA Board of Directors for voting. Nor do I even know of the
> folks
> >>> hosting our eGroup would be willing to make a change for us.
> >>>
> >>> I personally, have no idea what sort of limit to suggest, but I would
> shy
> &g

Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[coffee_canuck]

I manage list servers exactly like this - it took me 30s the last time I needed 
to tune one. 

Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC

> On Sep 4, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Lynn Hollerman  wrote:
> 
> The file size limit is determined by the software. The use of the mailing 
> list software was donated to IRCA by member Risto Kotalampi(did I spell that 
> right? Sorry, I'm on the road right now) back in 2003. Risto has taken care 
> of upgrades. If there is a change to a setting needed, offhand I'd say 
> contact him about it. He also hosts the hard core dx group. 
> 
> If it's the results of something you want posted just contact me and I can 
> put it on our server.
> 
> 
> Lynn.
> Lafayette, LA
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Walter Salmaniw  wrote:
>> 
>> Phil, my beef is trying to send DXpedition results.   For me, they may be
>> over a week or more, when I'm at my DX heaven in Masset.  Invariably, I go
>> over the 35 kb limit.  When typing, I have no idea when I get close.
>> That's what's so frustrating to me.  I feel like asking, "what's the
>> point?".  Personally, I think a several MB limit makes sense, especially
>> allowing for small audio clips, as well, without having to use a host.
>> 73,...Walt
>> 
>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Phil Bytheway via IRCA <
>> irca@hard-core-dx.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> ___
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>>> 
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>>> Kansas City, September 9 to 11.  Hotel space is filling up.
>>> Registration info:
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>>> 
>>> 
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>>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the
>>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
>>> 
>>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
>>> 
>>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Phil Bytheway 
>>> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America <
>>> irca@hard-core-dx.com>
>>> Cc:
>>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 20:32:04 + (UTC)
>>> Subject: File size limit
>>> So far, I have not received any form of proposal regarding the file size
>>> limit.
>>> If I were to get one, with an appropriate "new" limit, I would forward it
>>> to the IRCA Board of Directors for voting. Nor do I even know of the folks
>>> hosting our eGroup would be willing to make a change for us.
>>> 
>>> I personally, have no idea what sort of limit to suggest, but I would shy
>>> away from "unlimited".
>>> Please someone, put something together or it will never happen. Phil
>>> Bytheway
>>> IRCA President
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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Chuck Hutton]

I can't say I like the idea of requiring someone 24 x 7 x 365 to manually make 
the same decision that the list software should do automatically.

Chuck

From: IRCA <irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com> on behalf of Bill Whitacre 
<b...@his.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 10:39 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] File size limit

I don’t know Colin.  I’m on an awful lot of Mailman-hosted mail lists.  I admin 
a few myself.  Under normal circumstances the admin gets an email whenever a 
message is held up.  He/she can then go in and moderate it through or take any 
number of actions.  Perhaps all that’s needed is a more active list admin who 
can use some judgement and moderate thru some oversize messages?

May not be the total solution to what you’re after but it’s a start.

My 2 cents.

Bill Whitacre
Alexandria, VA

—

> On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:53 PM, coffee_canuck <coffeecan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The actual system this email system runs on has long passed its best before 
> date -- not even sure that there have been any updates in years.
>
> Being blunt: you are barking up the wrong tree if you expect any change to 
> happen anytime soon.
>
> I manage a list exactly like this at UVic with over 1000 readers. I am 
> replacing it with MailChimp as we speak. All these ListServ systems are on 
> highly borrowed time.
>
> Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
>
>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Walter Salmaniw <can...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Phil, my beef is trying to send DXpedition results.   For me, they may be
>> over a week or more, when I'm at my DX heaven in Masset.  Invariably, I go
>> over the 35 kb limit.  When typing, I have no idea when I get close.
>> That's what's so frustrating to me.  I feel like asking, "what's the
>> point?".  Personally, I think a several MB limit makes sense, especially
>> allowing for small audio clips, as well, without having to use a host.
>> 73,...Walt
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Phil Bytheway via IRCA <
>> irca@hard-core-dx.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ___
>>> IRCA mailing list
>>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
>>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
>>>
>>> Be sure to register now for the Joint DX Convention
>>> Kansas City, September 9 to 11.  Hotel space is filling up.
>>> Registration info:
>>> http://www.nrcdxas.org
>>>
>>>
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>>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 20:32:04 + (UTC)
>>> Subject: File size limit
>>> So far, I have not received any form of proposal regarding the file size
>>> limit.
>>> If I were to get one, with an appropriate "new" limit, I would forward it
>>> to the IRCA Board of Directors for voting. Nor do I even know of the folks
>>> hosting our eGroup would be willing to make a change for us.
>>>
>>> I personally, have no idea what sort of limit to suggest, but I would shy
>>> away from "unlimited".
>>> Please someone, put something together or it will never happen. Phil
>>> Bytheway
>>> IRCA President
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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Bill Whitacre]

I don’t know Colin.  I’m on an awful lot of Mailman-hosted mail lists.  I admin 
a few myself.  Under normal circumstances the admin gets an email whenever a 
message is held up.  He/she can then go in and moderate it through or take any 
number of actions.  Perhaps all that’s needed is a more active list admin who 
can use some judgement and moderate thru some oversize messages?

May not be the total solution to what you’re after but it’s a start.

My 2 cents.

Bill Whitacre
Alexandria, VA

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> On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:53 PM, coffee_canuck  wrote:
> 
> The actual system this email system runs on has long passed its best before 
> date -- not even sure that there have been any updates in years.
> 
> Being blunt: you are barking up the wrong tree if you expect any change to 
> happen anytime soon.
> 
> I manage a list exactly like this at UVic with over 1000 readers. I am 
> replacing it with MailChimp as we speak. All these ListServ systems are on 
> highly borrowed time. 
> 
> Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Walter Salmaniw  wrote:
>> 
>> Phil, my beef is trying to send DXpedition results.   For me, they may be
>> over a week or more, when I'm at my DX heaven in Masset.  Invariably, I go
>> over the 35 kb limit.  When typing, I have no idea when I get close.
>> That's what's so frustrating to me.  I feel like asking, "what's the
>> point?".  Personally, I think a several MB limit makes sense, especially
>> allowing for small audio clips, as well, without having to use a host.
>> 73,...Walt
>> 
>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Phil Bytheway via IRCA <
>> irca@hard-core-dx.com> wrote:
>> 
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>>> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America <
>>> irca@hard-core-dx.com>
>>> Cc:
>>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 20:32:04 + (UTC)
>>> Subject: File size limit
>>> So far, I have not received any form of proposal regarding the file size
>>> limit.
>>> If I were to get one, with an appropriate "new" limit, I would forward it
>>> to the IRCA Board of Directors for voting. Nor do I even know of the folks
>>> hosting our eGroup would be willing to make a change for us.
>>> 
>>> I personally, have no idea what sort of limit to suggest, but I would shy
>>> away from "unlimited".
>>> Please someone, put something together or it will never happen. Phil
>>> Bytheway
>>> IRCA President
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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Lynn Hollerman via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---
The file size limit is determined by the software. The use of the mailing list 
software was donated to IRCA by member Risto Kotalampi(did I spell that right? 
Sorry, I'm on the road right now) back in 2003. Risto has taken care of 
upgrades. If there is a change to a setting needed, offhand I'd say contact him 
about it. He also hosts the hard core dx group. 

If it's the results of something you want posted just contact me and I can put 
it on our server.


Lynn.
Lafayette, LA
Sent from my iPhone 




> On Sep 4, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Walter Salmaniw  wrote:
> 
> Phil, my beef is trying to send DXpedition results.   For me, they may be
> over a week or more, when I'm at my DX heaven in Masset.  Invariably, I go
> over the 35 kb limit.  When typing, I have no idea when I get close.
> That's what's so frustrating to me.  I feel like asking, "what's the
> point?".  Personally, I think a several MB limit makes sense, especially
> allowing for small audio clips, as well, without having to use a host.
> 73,...Walt
> 
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Phil Bytheway via IRCA <
> irca@hard-core-dx.com> wrote:
> 
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>> 
>> 
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Phil Bytheway 
>> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America <
>> irca@hard-core-dx.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 20:32:04 + (UTC)
>> Subject: File size limit
>> So far, I have not received any form of proposal regarding the file size
>> limit.
>> If I were to get one, with an appropriate "new" limit, I would forward it
>> to the IRCA Board of Directors for voting. Nor do I even know of the folks
>> hosting our eGroup would be willing to make a change for us.
>> 
>> I personally, have no idea what sort of limit to suggest, but I would shy
>> away from "unlimited".
>> Please someone, put something together or it will never happen. Phil
>> Bytheway
>> IRCA President
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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[coffee_canuck]

The actual system this email system runs on has long passed its best before 
date -- not even sure that there have been any updates in years.

Being blunt: you are barking up the wrong tree if you expect any change to 
happen anytime soon.

I manage a list exactly like this at UVic with over 1000 readers. I am 
replacing it with MailChimp as we speak. All these ListServ systems are on 
highly borrowed time. 

Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC

> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Walter Salmaniw  wrote:
> 
> Phil, my beef is trying to send DXpedition results.   For me, they may be
> over a week or more, when I'm at my DX heaven in Masset.  Invariably, I go
> over the 35 kb limit.  When typing, I have no idea when I get close.
> That's what's so frustrating to me.  I feel like asking, "what's the
> point?".  Personally, I think a several MB limit makes sense, especially
> allowing for small audio clips, as well, without having to use a host.
> 73,...Walt
> 
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Phil Bytheway via IRCA <
> irca@hard-core-dx.com> wrote:
> 
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>> 
>> 
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Phil Bytheway 
>> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America <
>> irca@hard-core-dx.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 20:32:04 + (UTC)
>> Subject: File size limit
>> So far, I have not received any form of proposal regarding the file size
>> limit.
>> If I were to get one, with an appropriate "new" limit, I would forward it
>> to the IRCA Board of Directors for voting. Nor do I even know of the folks
>> hosting our eGroup would be willing to make a change for us.
>> 
>> I personally, have no idea what sort of limit to suggest, but I would shy
>> away from "unlimited".
>> Please someone, put something together or it will never happen. Phil
>> Bytheway
>> IRCA President
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Re: [IRCA] File size limit

[Walter Salmaniw]

Phil, my beef is trying to send DXpedition results.   For me, they may be
over a week or more, when I'm at my DX heaven in Masset.  Invariably, I go
over the 35 kb limit.  When typing, I have no idea when I get close.
That's what's so frustrating to me.  I feel like asking, "what's the
point?".  Personally, I think a several MB limit makes sense, especially
allowing for small audio clips, as well, without having to use a host.
 73,...Walt

On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Phil Bytheway via IRCA <
irca@hard-core-dx.com> wrote:

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> Cc:
> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 20:32:04 + (UTC)
> Subject: File size limit
> So far, I have not received any form of proposal regarding the file size
> limit.
> If I were to get one, with an appropriate "new" limit, I would forward it
> to the IRCA Board of Directors for voting. Nor do I even know of the folks
> hosting our eGroup would be willing to make a change for us.
>
> I personally, have no idea what sort of limit to suggest, but I would shy
> away from "unlimited".
> Please someone, put something together or it will never happen. Phil
> Bytheway
> IRCA President
>
>
>
>
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[IRCA] File size limit

[Phil Bytheway via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---
So far, I have not received any form of proposal regarding the file size limit.
If I were to get one, with an appropriate "new" limit, I would forward it to 
the IRCA Board of Directors for voting. Nor do I even know of the folks hosting 
our eGroup would be willing to make a change for us.

I personally, have no idea what sort of limit to suggest, but I would shy away 
from "unlimited".
Please someone, put something together or it will never happen. Phil Bytheway
IRCA President


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