Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio

2013-11-15 Thread Patrick Martin
That is what I figured that KQW was not licensed. 

Patrick

Patrick Martin
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> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 00:23:33 -0800
> From: michael.d.hawk...@gmail.com
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio
> 
> Per Wikipedia, XWA started experimentally on 01 Dec 1919 and began regular
> programming on 20 May 1920.  KDKA "may" have still been using 8ZZ on 02 Nov
> 1920 when they broadcast election returns.  It was listed as unclear
> whether their license had been received by that date.  KQW was not licensed
> until 09 Dec 1921, but had been using experimental calls since 1909.
> 
> Mike Hawkins
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Mike Sanburn wrote:
> 
> > XWA in Montreal  (later CFCF?) claims that they were the first on the air.
> > I wonder what their date of first transmission actually was?  ms
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:51:45 -0800
> > > From: michael.d.hawk...@gmail.com
> > > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio
> > >
> > > As Dennis (and others) pointed out with Wikipedia links, KCBS/KQW was
> > > testing in 1909, though they were using experimental calls at the time.
> > > There was also a Canadian Marconi station on the air before KDKA.  The
> > > first license granted in the USA by the Department of Commerce was to
> > KDKA,
> > > but they weren't the first on the air.
> > >
> > > Mike Hawkins
> > > currently looking out the window at KQW's original 1909 building!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Dennis Gibson  wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KCBS_(AM)
> > > >
> > > > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 17:09:15 -0800
> > > > From: Patrick Martin 
> > > > To: IRCA 
> > > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio
> > > >
> > > > I think KQW San Jose was testing back in 1909 I had read.
> > > >
> > > > Patrick
> > > >
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Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio

2013-11-15 Thread Mike Hawkins
Per Wikipedia, XWA started experimentally on 01 Dec 1919 and began regular
programming on 20 May 1920.  KDKA "may" have still been using 8ZZ on 02 Nov
1920 when they broadcast election returns.  It was listed as unclear
whether their license had been received by that date.  KQW was not licensed
until 09 Dec 1921, but had been using experimental calls since 1909.

Mike Hawkins


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Mike Sanburn wrote:

> XWA in Montreal  (later CFCF?) claims that they were the first on the air.
> I wonder what their date of first transmission actually was?  ms
>
> > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:51:45 -0800
> > From: michael.d.hawk...@gmail.com
> > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio
> >
> > As Dennis (and others) pointed out with Wikipedia links, KCBS/KQW was
> > testing in 1909, though they were using experimental calls at the time.
> > There was also a Canadian Marconi station on the air before KDKA.  The
> > first license granted in the USA by the Department of Commerce was to
> KDKA,
> > but they weren't the first on the air.
> >
> > Mike Hawkins
> > currently looking out the window at KQW's original 1909 building!
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Dennis Gibson  wrote:
> >
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KCBS_(AM)
> > >
> > > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 17:09:15 -0800
> > > From: Patrick Martin 
> > > To: IRCA 
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio
> > >
> > > I think KQW San Jose was testing back in 1909 I had read.
> > >
> > > Patrick
> > >
> > > Patrick Martin
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Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio

2013-11-14 Thread Mike Sanburn
XWA in Montreal  (later CFCF?) claims that they were the first on the air. I 
wonder what their date of first transmission actually was?  ms

> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:51:45 -0800
> From: michael.d.hawk...@gmail.com
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio
> 
> As Dennis (and others) pointed out with Wikipedia links, KCBS/KQW was
> testing in 1909, though they were using experimental calls at the time.
> There was also a Canadian Marconi station on the air before KDKA.  The
> first license granted in the USA by the Department of Commerce was to KDKA,
> but they weren't the first on the air.
> 
> Mike Hawkins
> currently looking out the window at KQW's original 1909 building!
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Dennis Gibson  wrote:
> 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KCBS_(AM)
> >
> > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 17:09:15 -0800
> > From: Patrick Martin 
> > To: IRCA 
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio
> >
> > I think KQW San Jose was testing back in 1909 I had read.
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > Patrick Martin
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Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio

2013-11-14 Thread Mike Hawkins
As Dennis (and others) pointed out with Wikipedia links, KCBS/KQW was
testing in 1909, though they were using experimental calls at the time.
There was also a Canadian Marconi station on the air before KDKA.  The
first license granted in the USA by the Department of Commerce was to KDKA,
but they weren't the first on the air.

Mike Hawkins
currently looking out the window at KQW's original 1909 building!


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Dennis Gibson  wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KCBS_(AM)
>
> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 17:09:15 -0800
> From: Patrick Martin 
> To: IRCA 
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio
>
> I think KQW San Jose was testing back in 1909 I had read.
>
> Patrick
>
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
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Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio

2013-11-14 Thread Dennis Gibson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KCBS_(AM)

Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 17:09:15 -0800
From: Patrick Martin 
To: IRCA 
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio

I think KQW San Jose was testing back in 1909 I had read.

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio

2013-11-14 Thread Patrick Martin
I think KQW San Jose was testing back in 1909 I had read.

Patrick

Patrick Martin
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> From: hanigr...@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 17:38:04 -0200
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio
> 
> "The first AM radio broadcast was from station KDKA in Pittsburgh in 1920",
> not true...
> 
> 73
> 
> Horacio Nigro
> Uruguay
> 
> 
> 2013/11/14 R. Colin Newell 
> 
> > Great story -- and a good primer for the state of radio at this moment in
> > time...
> >
> > AM radio is far from dead - just switch one on at night time and get away
> > from the obvious noise sources.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Nick Hall-Patch  wrote:
> >
> > > Heh, use the second link if you want to read this article.  I hadn't
> > > realized they embedded the link in the title when I sent this, and that
> > > link will get you an ad as well as reporting that Nick Hall-Patch is
> > > checking in from all over the place.   Actually, that might be worth it,
> > in
> > > order to foul up their statistics, hi.
> > >
> > > Always interesting to see closet DXers turn up in an electronics trade
> > > publication!
> > >
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> > >>> 41&s=nick.hallpa...@dfo-mpo.gc.ca&YM_2MID=1433073&
> > >>> sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_21>Amazing Adaptable AM Radio
> > >>>
> > >>>
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Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio

2013-11-14 Thread Horacio Nigro
"The first AM radio broadcast was from station KDKA in Pittsburgh in 1920",
not true...

73

Horacio Nigro
Uruguay


2013/11/14 R. Colin Newell 

> Great story -- and a good primer for the state of radio at this moment in
> time...
>
> AM radio is far from dead - just switch one on at night time and get away
> from the obvious noise sources.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Nick Hall-Patch  wrote:
>
> > Heh, use the second link if you want to read this article.  I hadn't
> > realized they embedded the link in the title when I sent this, and that
> > link will get you an ad as well as reporting that Nick Hall-Patch is
> > checking in from all over the place.   Actually, that might be worth it,
> in
> > order to foul up their statistics, hi.
> >
> > Always interesting to see closet DXers turn up in an electronics trade
> > publication!
> >
> >   >>> 41&s=nick.hallpa...@dfo-mpo.gc.ca&YM_2MID=1433073&
> >>> sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_21>Amazing Adaptable AM Radio
> >>>
> >>>
> --
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Re: [IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio

2013-11-14 Thread R. Colin Newell
Great story -- and a good primer for the state of radio at this moment in
time...

AM radio is far from dead - just switch one on at night time and get away
from the obvious noise sources.


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Nick Hall-Patch  wrote:

> Heh, use the second link if you want to read this article.  I hadn't
> realized they embedded the link in the title when I sent this, and that
> link will get you an ad as well as reporting that Nick Hall-Patch is
> checking in from all over the place.   Actually, that might be worth it, in
> order to foul up their statistics, hi.
>
> Always interesting to see closet DXers turn up in an electronics trade
> publication!
>
>  >> 41&s=nick.hallpa...@dfo-mpo.gc.ca&YM_2MID=1433073&
>>> sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_21>Amazing Adaptable AM Radio
>>>
>>>
-- 
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[IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio

2013-11-13 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
Heh, use the second link if you want to read this article.  I hadn't 
realized they embedded the link in the title when I sent this, and 
that link will get you an ad as well as reporting that Nick 
Hall-Patch is checking in from all over the place.   Actually, that 
might be worth it, in order to foul up their statistics, hi.



best wishes,

Nick




Always interesting to see closet DXers turn up in an electronics 
trade publication!







Amazing 
Adaptable AM Radio






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We can enjoy just about anything we want on our smart phone. Yet AM 
radio, one of the oldest electronic technologies, remains popular 
thanks to an interesting mix of technology and market factors.


http://electronicdesign.com/blog/amazing-adaptable-am-radio?NL=ED-03&Issue=ED-03_20131113_ED-03_480&YM


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[IRCA] Fwd: Amazing, Adaptable AM Radio

2013-11-13 Thread Nick Hall-Patch


Always interesting to see closet DXers turn up in an electronics 
trade publication!








Amazing 
Adaptable AM Radio






Louis E. Frenzel, Communications Editor

We can enjoy just about anything we want on our smart phone. Yet AM 
radio, one of the oldest electronic technologies, remains popular 
thanks to an interesting mix of technology and market factors.


http://electronicdesign.com/blog/amazing-adaptable-am-radio?NL=ED-03&Issue=ED-03_20131113_ED-03_480&YM


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