[IRCA] KLOV FM network
The same way that non-comm public radio stations do, Bill -- pledge drives. In K-Love's case, it's 3 a year --- one in the spring (10 days), one in the fall (10 days), and one usually on New Year's Eve Day. And in recent years, it's been like clockwork -- about a week after the end of each pledge drive (which almost always falls far short of goal, under 40% or so), K-Love's president will emerge from his burrow with an announcement that they've had to make what they refer to as drastic decisions regarding their budget. Content has something to do with it. IMHO, if I'm going to listen to Christian radio, I'd much rather listen to something local that actually has variety to its playlist (i.e., one that will, from time to time, dig out the obscure, the long-forgotten, and play those, like a good station of any format would) instead of something syndicated that rarely plays anything more than 5 years old and sounds too much like a bad Top 40 station. 73, Rick Dau South Omaha, Nebraska From: bill kral jwk...@yahoo.ca To: irca@hard-core-dx.com irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 11:00:03 AM Subject: Re: [IRCA] KLOV FM network Thanks for the update. That's quite a netwoek of stations. I wonder how they operate if they are non - commercial and don't do any advertising. I haven't heard any ads. It's just a continuous string of songs. Bill in BC ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KLOV FM network
Rick, I wish you could mass email that second paragraph to every radio station in this country that plays music. Playlists are becoming so restrictive that you can predict exactly what time you will hear a song. You hear a song on the radio, you like it, then you hear it SO OFTEN that you change the station as soon as you hear that song starting again. And they wonder why people are turning off the radio... I'll not make any comments about K-Love, as I tend to infuriate some people on this subject. Mike Hawkins On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Rick Dau drummer1965...@yahoo.com wrote: The same way that non-comm public radio stations do, Bill -- pledge drives. In K-Love's case, it's 3 a year --- one in the spring (10 days), one in the fall (10 days), and one usually on New Year's Eve Day. And in recent years, it's been like clockwork -- about a week after the end of each pledge drive (which almost always falls far short of goal, under 40% or so), K-Love's president will emerge from his burrow with an announcement that they've had to make what they refer to as drastic decisions regarding their budget. Content has something to do with it. IMHO, if I'm going to listen to Christian radio, I'd much rather listen to something local that actually has variety to its playlist (i.e., one that will, from time to time, dig out the obscure, the long-forgotten, and play those, like a good station of any format would) instead of something syndicated that rarely plays anything more than 5 years old and sounds too much like a bad Top 40 station. 73, Rick Dau South Omaha, Nebraska From: bill kral jwk...@yahoo.ca To: irca@hard-core-dx.com irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 11:00:03 AM Subject: Re: [IRCA] KLOV FM network Thanks for the update. That's quite a netwoek of stations. I wonder how they operate if they are non - commercial and don't do any advertising. I haven't heard any ads. It's just a continuous string of songs. Bill in BC ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KLOV FM network
Mike Hawkins wrote: I wish you could mass email that second paragraph to every radio station in this country that plays music. Playlists are becoming so restrictive that you can predict exactly what time you will hear a song. You hear a song on the radio, you like it, then you hear it SO OFTEN that you change the station as soon as you hear that song starting again. And they wonder why people are turning off the radio... It's not the music that's causing that...if in fact it's even true (there's lots of solid research data showing that time-spent-listening for radio remains as high as it's ever been.) You want repetition and restrictive playlists? We had that 50+ years ago, too. Look at WABC or WMCA or WLS or any of the classic top-40 stations, especially the ones programmed by Bill Drake or his acolytes. They were even tighter on their music rotations than today's top-40 stations. *You* may change the station, but half a century of music programming has demonstrated that the average listener won't - and in fact will listen more often and in greater numbers to stations that play the hits and nothing but the hits, over and over again. (Anyone on a list like this is, by definition, far from an average consumer of radio!) The difference today is that those stations back then had personality and stationality between the repetitive songs. Few stations today can say the same...and of course there are a lot of new options out there for listening to music that didn't exist in the days when WABC was king. s ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KLOV FM network
Rick Dau wrote: The same way that non-comm public radio stations do, Bill -- pledge drives. In K-Love's case, it's 3 a year --- one in the spring (10 days), one in the fall (10 days), and one usually on New Year's Eve Day. And in recent years, it's been like clockwork -- about a week after the end of each pledge drive (which almost always falls far short of goal, under 40% or so), K-Love's president will emerge from his burrow with an announcement that they've had to make what they refer to as drastic decisions regarding their budget. Content has something to do with it. IMHO, if I'm going to listen to Christian radio, I'd much rather listen to something local that actually has variety to its playlist (i.e., one that will, from time to time, dig out the obscure, the long-forgotten, and play those, like a good station of any format would) instead of something syndicated that rarely plays anything more than 5 years old and sounds too much like a bad Top 40 station. And yet... Whatever pledge drive math K-Love is using to declare itself short of its goal, the fact is that they do exceptionally well by non-commercial radio standards. In the public radio universe where I live, we'd kill to be able to get listeners to donate at the $100/month level that K-Love suggests to its audience. (We're thrilled to get them to sign up at $100 a year!) What's more, K-Love gets to draw that listener support from hundreds and hundreds of transmitters all over the country, all of which enjoy FCC-provided main studio waivers that allow K-Love's parent, EMF Broadcasting, to avoid the expense of maintaining local staffs and studios at each location. If those main studio waivers weren't so readily granted, K-Love's economic model might not work at all...and EMF's CEO wouldn't be taking home $400k+ a year in salary. I'm no fan of the format, but I do recognize it as being exceptionally well-executed, tight, commercial-style radio. Like a commercial top-40 station, their goal is to put together the largest possible audience...and you don't get there with obscure and long-forgotten. There are other places on the dial for that. K-Love is doing what works for them, and it's clearly paying the bills, at least looking at what they're spending on buying stations and paying their executives. s ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KLOV FM network
There is one station whose frequency is a favorite of mine. The frequency because its a good skip indicator, the station is another story. They say they play the classic hits of the 70s and 80s. Judging by the station, there were only 14 classic hits during that 20-year period. I got to do an Arbitron survey and listed them on the survey with the comment that it was time for them to check another greatest hit CD out of the library. I went to album-oriented rock in 1966 because I got very bored (even back then). I use my radio only for news, traffic and DXing...mostly DXing. Mike Hawkins On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Scott Fybush sc...@fybush.com wrote: Mike Hawkins wrote: I wish you could mass email that second paragraph to every radio station in this country that plays music. Playlists are becoming so restrictive that you can predict exactly what time you will hear a song. You hear a song on the radio, you like it, then you hear it SO OFTEN that you change the station as soon as you hear that song starting again. And they wonder why people are turning off the radio... It's not the music that's causing that...if in fact it's even true (there's lots of solid research data showing that time-spent-listening for radio remains as high as it's ever been.) You want repetition and restrictive playlists? We had that 50+ years ago, too. Look at WABC or WMCA or WLS or any of the classic top-40 stations, especially the ones programmed by Bill Drake or his acolytes. They were even tighter on their music rotations than today's top-40 stations. *You* may change the station, but half a century of music programming has demonstrated that the average listener won't - and in fact will listen more often and in greater numbers to stations that play the hits and nothing but the hits, over and over again. (Anyone on a list like this is, by definition, far from an average consumer of radio!) The difference today is that those stations back then had personality and stationality between the repetitive songs. Few stations today can say the same...and of course there are a lot of new options out there for listening to music that didn't exist in the days when WABC was king. s __**_ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/**mailman/listinfo/ircahttp://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KLOV FM network
Thanks for the update. That's quite a netwoek of stations. I wonder how they operate if they are non - commercial and don't do any advertising. I haven't heard any ads. It's just a continuous string of songs. Bill in BC ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
