Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM
Thanks for the update Dennis. Sorry to see it go. 73 - Doug Salem, OR On Mar 19, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Dennis Vroom wrote: McMinnville's, Oregon AM Radio station KLYC 1260 is signing off the air on Friday March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM. Link to newspaper below. http://www.newsregister.com/article?articleTitle=klyc-1260-radio-to-sign-off-friday--1363636143--6929--breaking-news Best Regards Dennis, Kalama, WA ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM
I will record the sign-off of KLYC 1260 on Friday. Using the quantum phaser the KBAM 1270 splatter is nearly gone and leaves KLYC with a S9+15 db signal. Best regards, Dennis, Kalama, WA From: Doug Pifer i...@desert4wd.com To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM Thanks for the update Dennis. Sorry to see it go. 73 - Doug Salem, OR On Mar 19, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Dennis Vroom wrote: McMinnville's, Oregon AM Radio station KLYC 1260 is signing off the air on Friday March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM. Link to newspaper below. http://www.newsregister.com/article?articleTitle=klyc-1260-radio-to-sign-off-friday--1363636143--6929--breaking-news Best Regards Dennis, Kalama, WA ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM
Dennis, If you record the KLYC sign off in digital form, I have space to post it online so we can share it with others easily. Paul On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Dennis Vroom vroom...@ymail.com wrote: I will record the sign-off of KLYC 1260 on Friday. Using the quantum phaser the KBAM 1270 splatter is nearly gone and leaves KLYC with a S9+15 db signal. Best regards, Dennis, Kalama, WA From: Doug Pifer i...@desert4wd.com To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM Thanks for the update Dennis. Sorry to see it go. 73 - Doug Salem, OR On Mar 19, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Dennis Vroom wrote: McMinnville's, Oregon AM Radio station KLYC 1260 is signing off the air on Friday March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM. Link to newspaper below. http://www.newsregister.com/article?articleTitle=klyc-1260-radio-to-sign-off-friday--1363636143--6929--breaking-news Best Regards Dennis, Kalama, WA ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM
Paul, I'll record the sign off on my laptop RecALL-PRO recorder. How many minutes should I record? Best regards, Dennis, Kalama, WA From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com To: Dennis Vroom vroom...@ymail.com; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM Dennis, If you record the KLYC sign off in digital form, I have space to post it online so we can share it with others easily. Paul On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Dennis Vroom vroom...@ymail.com wrote: I will record the sign-off of KLYC 1260 on Friday. Using the quantum phaser the KBAM 1270 splatter is nearly gone and leaves KLYC with a S9+15 db signal. Best regards, Dennis, Kalama, WA From: Doug Pifer i...@desert4wd.com To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM Thanks for the update Dennis. Sorry to see it go. 73 - Doug Salem, OR On Mar 19, 2013, at 10:01 PM, Dennis Vroom wrote: McMinnville's, Oregon AM Radio station KLYC 1260 is signing off the air on Friday March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM. Link to newspaper below. http://www.newsregister.com/article?articleTitle=klyc-1260-radio-to-sign-off-friday--1363636143--6929--breaking-news Best Regards Dennis, Kalama, WA ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM
Dennis, You get KLYC much better than I do. I can get them, but they are not strong. It used to be decent at S9, but not these days. Infact years ago I don't remember splatter from KBAM on them either. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM
Patrick, I'm probably around 13 miles from KBAM 1270 and 58 miles as the crow flies from KLYC 1260. Phasing the Sky wire loop with the SW ewe really drops the splatter from KBAM. I was able to phase down KOHI 1600 and hear the oldies on KTIL 1590 this afternoon. During the daylight hours I have choice of oldies stations on 840 kHz. NW ewe brings in KSWB Seaside and the Sky wire loop picks up KKNX Eugene, OR. Best regards, Dennis, Kalama, WA From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net To: Dennis Vroom vroom...@ymail.com; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Cc: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM Dennis, You get KLYC much better than I do. I can get them, but they are not strong. It used to be decent at S9, but not these days. Infact years ago I don't remember splatter from KBAM on them either. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM
That is too bad. I remember listening to the station back in the 1960s under the calls KMCM for McMinnville. I wonder if the station will finally be bought and return to the air? I guess it came on in 1949, the year I was born. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM
Patrick, The owner of KLYC has schedule a sale of the equipment and furnishings on April 6, 2013. The call letters since 1949 have been KMCM - KCYX - 06/04/1979 KLYC - 06/20/1990. Sad to see the station leave the air. A lot of people on the Portland PDX forum believe that station will not return to the air. Since I moved up here from the SF Bay Area in 2002, KLYC has been the only station that I have logged on 1260 kHz. I will try and record the sign-off on April 6. I have KYLC now at S-9+15 db on the Sky wire antenna. A distance of 58 miles South Southwest as the crow flies. Moderate splatter from KBAM Long view, WA. Best regards, Dennis, Kalama, WA From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net To: Dennis Vroom vroom...@ymail.com; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Cc: irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM That is too bad. I remember listening to the station back in the 1960s under the calls KMCM for McMinnville. I wonder if the station will finally be bought and return to the air? I guess it came on in 1949, the year I was born. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM
Dennis, Yes, that is sad to see the station go. I don't like to see any AM station go off the air, but the old ones, it is even more sad. I remember well the days when so many of the Valley stations were solid as a rock and were popular. KMCM was very popular and I remember visiting the station one afternoon and several sles people were running around trying to get the new sports on the air before the weekend. The station had a personality Pop type format. KSLM 1390 was the number one station in Salem, no other station could compete with the good Adult Standards format they had. KGAY 1430 Salem was CW and the old KAPT 1220 could not compete with them and went off the air, as they were only a 1 KW Daytimer. KBZY 1490 was a popular Top 40 station, as well as K-FLY Corvallis. Ah, the good ol' days when AM was king. Visiting the stations was a lot of fun in those days as they each had live DJs and a lot of station personal were there. The stations were alive and colorful. Each one was different and interesting to listen to. I get KLYC at about S4-5 during the day. Their signal is a lot weaker than they once were. They used to be about S9. They are weak enough now, I get some splatter from KBAM 1270 as they are S9 off the SW EWE. So sad to see another piece of history going. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM
I remember one thing the CE told me at KBAM Longview back in the 70s the stations in the shadow of Portland, they always have to compete harder. McMinnville is in that metro Portland area. But with all of AM FM stations on the air, it is hard for many of them to get enough ad money to stay afloat. Back when it was mainly AM, and there weren't as many stations, it was much easier. Plus the economy was much stronger too. In today's world, I wonder how many people listen to these suburban AM stations? Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM
A big problem for these stations is the way stations are counted for ratings and for disbursing ad dollars. The ad agencies don't think of Salem as Salem, or McMinnville as McMinnville, etc. They're considered part of the Portland ADI Area Of Dominant Influence, which is true in a way, but for ratings and ad buys, they're lumped in with the Portland stations as if they're part of Portland. But of course Portland residents don't listen to McMinnville stations as much as they listen to Portland stations, so that methodology stacks the deck against the little guys. They could have _never_ competed on that level, even in their heyday. That change signed their death warrant, and it's amazing how long they've been able to survive under the circumstances. It should have never happened that way. -- Rick - Original Message - From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net To: Dennis Vroom vroom...@ymail.com Cc: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM I remember one thing the CE told me at KBAM Longview back in the 70s the stations in the shadow of Portland, they always have to compete harder. McMinnville is in that metro Portland area. But with all of AM FM stations on the air, it is hard for many of them to get enough ad money to stay afloat. Back when it was mainly AM, and there weren't as many stations, it was much easier. Plus the economy was much stronger too. In today's world, I wonder how many people listen to these suburban AM stations? Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM
This is sad indeed to see a historic station leave the air. I did a little research on the history of this station today, very interesting. I want to ask a favor, would someone be able to record the sign -off of this station on Friday, I would like to add to my growing collection. Kind Regards James Niven Austin, Texas -Original Message- From: irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com [mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Vroom Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:53 PM To: Patrick Martin; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Subject: Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM Patrick, The owner of KLYC has schedule a sale of the equipment and furnishings on April 6, 2013. The call letters since 1949 have been KMCM - KCYX - 06/04/1979 KLYC - 06/20/1990. Sad to see the station leave the air. A lot of people on the Portland PDX forum believe that station will not return to the air. Since I moved up here from the SF Bay Area in 2002, KLYC has been the only station that I have logged on 1260 kHz. I will try and record the sign-off on April 6. I have KYLC now at S-9+15 db on the Sky wire antenna. A distance of 58 miles South Southwest as the crow flies. Moderate splatter from KBAM Long view, WA. Best regards, Dennis, Kalama, WA From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net To: Dennis Vroom vroom...@ymail.com; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Cc: irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM That is too bad. I remember listening to the station back in the 1960s under the calls KMCM for McMinnville. I wonder if the station will finally be bought and return to the air? I guess it came on in 1949, the year I was born. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM
A big problem for these stations is the way stations are counted for ratings and for disbursing ad dollars. The ad agencies don't think of Salem as Salem, or McMinnville as McMinnville, etc. They're considered part of the Portland ADI Area Of Dominant Influence, which is true in a way, but for ratings and ad buys, they're lumped in with the Portland stations as if they're part of Portland. But of course Portland residents don't listen to McMinnville stations as much as they listen to Portland stations, so that methodology stacks the deck against the little guys. They could have _never_ competed on that level, even in their heyday. That change signed their death warrant, and it's amazing how long they've been able to survive under the circumstances. It should have never happened that way. Rick, Yes, I think that is what he was explaining back over 40 years ago. But there were a lot less stations in those days and AM was still king, so there was more ad money to go around even if the metro stations still did not get high ratings. If you have a market of 30 stations in 1970 and today that market is 60 stations, there just isn't much left over once you get near the bottom of the list. Plus the cost of running a station today, like everything else, is higher. I think that is why so many stations run satellite programming. At least the station can stay on the air with only a few ads, as the overhead is much lower. But is that radio? To me, working in broadcasting for a number of years, radio is connecting to your community. Often a satellite driven station has little or no connection with the community. If the person likes the programming, fine, but that station could be any station out of hundreds out there. Personality is what kept listeners. The contests, remotes, local news, etc. The person felt that was their station. even if you did not like the format, the station still served that community and during an emergency it was there for that town. At the local coffee shop, you would often run in to the local DJ, Salesman, PD, etc and talk about local issues, as they were apart of the community. You had kids in the same schools as the station employees. That is radio to me. I used to love driving around on trips listening to all of the different stations. Often I would stop in and say hi. Those were great days. KLYC will be missed. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] KLYC 1260 signs off Air March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM
McMinnville's, Oregon AM Radio station KLYC 1260 is signing off the air on Friday March 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM. Link to newspaper below. http://www.newsregister.com/article?articleTitle=klyc-1260-radio-to-sign-off-friday--1363636143--6929--breaking-news Best Regards Dennis, Kalama, WA ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
