Re: [IRCA] LINK FOR XHDATA D-808 PURCHASE

[Gary DeBock]

Hi Mike,

<<< Is there any reason why this radio is not available in North America,
except through sketchy fly-by-night re-sellers? >>>

Well, when Chinese engineers take the CC Skywave SSB model and reverse-engineer 
the radio to make a significantly more sensitive AM-DXing portable (with a 
longer loopstick), a more powerful audio amp (correcting a serious weak point) 
and offer the new model worldwide at a price about half of the Skywave SSB 
(except for North American purchasers, who pay about $112), the Chinese 
engineers probably don't want to risk a copyright lawsuit by selling the model 
openly in North America. And Universal Radio, Amazon etc. are probably all too 
aware of these facts, and don't care to support Chinese "reverse engineering."

73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)

> On July 31, 2018 at 6:21 PM Mike Keval Brooker  wrote:
>
>
> Is there any reason why this radio is not available in North America,
> except through sketchy fly-by-night re-sellers? I would be tempted to buy
> one if it was offered by, say, Universal Radio. Slightly better than the C
> Crane Skywave, yes. But I don't think it would beat my 40 year old
> Panasonic RF2200.
>
>
> 73
>
> Mike Brooker
> Toronto, ON
>
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 9:05 PM, Russ Johnson  wrote:
>
> > Really enjoying mine so far
> >
> > The audio characteristics match my ears better than any radio have.
> >
> > The most annoying thing is that the kickstand is far too short. You can’t
> > read display. My easy solution was to clip a clothespin to the center of
> > kickstand for additional length needed. Works great
> >
> > Russ Johnson
> > Lexington NC
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 29, 2018, at 7:18 PM, Gary DeBock  wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Craig,
> > >
> > > Unfortunately that seller has never offered to ship the model to either
> > the USA or Canada, despite the fact that he will ship it to Mexico for free
> > (go figure?).
> > >
> > > This is almost certainly related to the fact that a lot of the XHDATA
> > D-808 circuitry was "reverse engineered" from the C.Crane Skywave SSB
> > model, and the company is reluctant to risk a copyright lawsuit by selling
> > the model openly in North America. The eBay seller offering the model at
> > $112 tries to avoid this issue by shipping through Israel-- and he is
> > apparently doing a booming business by coming up with this solution.
> > >
> > > 73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
> > >
> > >
> > >> On July 29, 2018 at 3:19 PM C B  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> This Ebay seller has a special on the XHData D-808 for a couple more
> > days:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> XHDATA D 808 Portable Digital Radio FM stereo/ SW / MW / LW SSB AIR
> > RDS Multi Band Radio Speaker with LCD Display Alarm Clock-in Radio from
> > Consumer Electronics on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group
> > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tecsun-PL-398MP-2-2-Full-
> > Band-Digital-Tuning-Stereo-Radio-Receiver-w-Stand-and-MP3/1504908567.html
> > >>
> > >> $79.78
> > >> XHDATA D 808 Portable Digital Radio FM stereo/ SW / MW / LW SSB AIR
> > RDS ...
> > >>
> > >> Cheap radio fm stereo, Buy Quality fm stereo directly from China
> > portable digital radio Suppliers: XHDATA D-808 ...
> > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tecsun-PL-398MP-2-2-Full-
> > Band-Digital-Tuning-Stereo-Radio-Receiver-w-Stand-and-MP3/1504908567.html
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 73,
> > >>
> > >> Craig Barnes
> > >> Wheat Ridge, CO
> > >>
> > >> On Sunday, July 29, 2018, 3:51:01 PM MDT, shaf...@earthlink.net <
> > shaf...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/XHDATA-D-808-Portable-Digital-
> > Radio-FM-stereo-SW-MW-LW-SSB-RDS-Air-Band-LCD/263589135532
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I got mine here.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Rick S., Rodanthe NC OBX FM25go
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: fpeconsult...@aol.com mailto:fpeconsult...@aol.com <
> > fpeconsult...@aol.com mailto:fpeconsult...@aol.com >
> > >> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 5:12 PM
> > >> To: Gary DeBock < d1028g...@comcast.net mailto:d1028g...@comcast.net
> > >
> > >> Cc: < shaf...@earthlink.net mailto:shaf...@earthlink.net > <
> > shaf...@earthlink.net mailto:shaf...@earthlink.net >; America, Mailing <
> > irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com >
> > >> Subject: Re: [nrc-am] XHDATA D-808-- The Summer Travel "Smoke Test"
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hello again & thx for the info on the loop stick vs the Select A
> > Tenna..
> > >>
> > >> I have heard that the lithium battery can't be shipped to the USA &
> > is tough to obtain as well.
> > >>
> > >> Does anyone know if this is the case?
> > >>
> > >> Thx again
> > >>
> > >> Rich
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Jul 29, 2018, at 0:31, Gary DeBock < d1028g...@comcast.net
> > mailto:d1028g...@comcast.net  > d1028g...@comcast.net > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hello Rich,
> > >>
> > >> <<< I have been seeing a lot about this radio & am considering
> > buying one - many posts mention a loop stick - my assumption is that this
> > doesn't come with the radio & people build 

Re: [IRCA] LINK FOR XHDATA D-808 PURCHASE

[Mike Keval Brooker]

Is there any reason why this radio is not available in North America,
except through sketchy fly-by-night re-sellers? I would be tempted to buy
one if it was offered by, say, Universal Radio. Slightly better than the C
Crane Skywave, yes. But I don't think it would beat my 40 year old
Panasonic RF2200.


73

Mike Brooker
Toronto, ON

On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 9:05 PM, Russ Johnson  wrote:

> Really enjoying mine so far
>
> The audio characteristics match my ears better than any radio have.
>
> The most annoying thing is that the kickstand is far too short. You can’t
> read display.  My easy solution was to clip a clothespin to the center of
> kickstand for additional length needed. Works great
>
> Russ Johnson
> Lexington NC
>
>
>
> > On Jul 29, 2018, at 7:18 PM, Gary DeBock  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Craig,
> >
> > Unfortunately that seller has never offered to ship the model to either
> the USA or Canada, despite the fact that he will ship it to Mexico for free
> (go figure?).
> >
> > This is almost certainly related to the fact that a lot of the XHDATA
> D-808 circuitry was "reverse engineered" from the C.Crane Skywave SSB
> model, and the company is reluctant to risk a copyright lawsuit by selling
> the model openly in North America. The eBay seller offering the model at
> $112 tries to avoid this issue by shipping through Israel-- and he is
> apparently doing a booming business by coming up with this solution.
> >
> > 73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
> >
> >
> >> On July 29, 2018 at 3:19 PM C B  wrote:
> >>
> >>This Ebay seller has a special on the XHData D-808 for a couple more
> days:
> >>
> >>
> >>XHDATA D 808 Portable Digital Radio FM stereo/ SW / MW / LW SSB AIR
> RDS Multi Band Radio Speaker with LCD Display Alarm Clock-in Radio from
> Consumer Electronics on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tecsun-PL-398MP-2-2-Full-
> Band-Digital-Tuning-Stereo-Radio-Receiver-w-Stand-and-MP3/1504908567.html
> >>
> >>$79.78
> >>XHDATA D 808 Portable Digital Radio FM stereo/ SW / MW / LW SSB AIR
> RDS ...
> >>
> >>Cheap radio fm stereo, Buy Quality fm stereo directly from China
> portable digital radio Suppliers: XHDATA D-808 ...
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tecsun-PL-398MP-2-2-Full-
> Band-Digital-Tuning-Stereo-Radio-Receiver-w-Stand-and-MP3/1504908567.html
> >>
> >>
> >>73,
> >>
> >>Craig Barnes
> >>Wheat Ridge, CO
> >>
> >>On Sunday, July 29, 2018, 3:51:01 PM MDT, shaf...@earthlink.net <
> shaf...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>https://www.ebay.com/itm/XHDATA-D-808-Portable-Digital-
> Radio-FM-stereo-SW-MW-LW-SSB-RDS-Air-Band-LCD/263589135532
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>I got mine here.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Rick S., Rodanthe NC OBX FM25go
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>From: fpeconsult...@aol.com mailto:fpeconsult...@aol.com <
> fpeconsult...@aol.com mailto:fpeconsult...@aol.com >
> >>Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 5:12 PM
> >>To: Gary DeBock < d1028g...@comcast.net mailto:d1028g...@comcast.net
> >
> >>Cc: < shaf...@earthlink.net mailto:shaf...@earthlink.net > <
> shaf...@earthlink.net mailto:shaf...@earthlink.net >; America, Mailing <
> irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com >
> >>Subject: Re: [nrc-am] XHDATA D-808-- The Summer Travel "Smoke Test"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Hello again & thx for the info on the loop stick vs the Select A
> Tenna..
> >>
> >>I have heard that the lithium battery can't be shipped to the USA &
> is tough to obtain as well.
> >>
> >>Does anyone know if this is the case?
> >>
> >>Thx again
> >>
> >>Rich
> >>
> >>
> >>On Jul 29, 2018, at 0:31, Gary DeBock < d1028g...@comcast.net
> mailto:d1028g...@comcast.net  d1028g...@comcast.net > > wrote:
> >>
> >>Hello Rich,
> >>
> >><<< I have been seeing a lot about this radio & am considering
> buying one - many posts mention a loop stick - my assumption is that this
> doesn't come with the radio & people build them. Can someone tell me if
> this is so & would using an old school Super Select-a-tenna give me similar
> results? >>>
> >>
> >>Although the stock XHDATA D-808 model already provides good AM
> sensitivity with its 3 7/8" (97mm) loopstick, its performance can be
> dramatically boosted by replacing the stock loopstick with an
> externally-mounted 7.5" transplant. A photo of such an enhanced D-808 model
> is posted at https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/vk26lkhhu77q8buzuaido03fmy5s7x
> st
> >>
> >>This 7.5" transplant loopstick is the same one used for
> "supercharging" the Tecsun PL-380 model, as described in the construction
> article posted at http://www.mediafire.com/file/
> du3sr5cd9thqvau/7.5inch-LS-PL380.doc/file http://www.mediafire.com/file/
> du3sr5cd9thqvau/7.5inch-LS-PL380.doc/file The enhanced D-808 model would
> have AM sensitivity similar to that of a stock D-808 + Select-a-Tenna
> combo, but would not require peaking the external antenna every time a
> frequency is changed. This is a huge advantage 

Re: [IRCA] LINK FOR XHDATA D-808 PURCHASE

[Russ Johnson]

Really enjoying mine so far

The audio characteristics match my ears better than any radio have. 

The most annoying thing is that the kickstand is far too short. You can’t read 
display.  My easy solution was to clip a clothespin to the center of kickstand 
for additional length needed. Works great 

Russ Johnson 
Lexington NC



> On Jul 29, 2018, at 7:18 PM, Gary DeBock  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Craig,
> 
> Unfortunately that seller has never offered to ship the model to either the 
> USA or Canada, despite the fact that he will ship it to Mexico for free (go 
> figure?).
> 
> This is almost certainly related to the fact that a lot of the XHDATA D-808 
> circuitry was "reverse engineered" from the C.Crane Skywave SSB model, and 
> the company is reluctant to risk a copyright lawsuit by selling the model 
> openly in North America. The eBay seller offering the model at $112 tries to 
> avoid this issue by shipping through Israel-- and he is apparently doing a 
> booming business by coming up with this solution.
> 
> 73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
> 
> 
>> On July 29, 2018 at 3:19 PM C B  wrote:
>> 
>>This Ebay seller has a special on the XHData D-808 for a couple more days:
>> 
>> 
>>XHDATA D 808 Portable Digital Radio FM stereo/ SW / MW / LW SSB AIR RDS 
>> Multi Band Radio Speaker with LCD Display Alarm Clock-in Radio from Consumer 
>> Electronics on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group 
>> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tecsun-PL-398MP-2-2-Full-Band-Digital-Tuning-Stereo-Radio-Receiver-w-Stand-and-MP3/1504908567.html
>> 
>>$79.78
>>XHDATA D 808 Portable Digital Radio FM stereo/ SW / MW / LW SSB AIR RDS 
>> ...
>> 
>>Cheap radio fm stereo, Buy Quality fm stereo directly from China portable 
>> digital radio Suppliers: XHDATA D-808 ... 
>> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tecsun-PL-398MP-2-2-Full-Band-Digital-Tuning-Stereo-Radio-Receiver-w-Stand-and-MP3/1504908567.html
>> 
>> 
>>73,
>> 
>>Craig Barnes
>>Wheat Ridge, CO
>> 
>>On Sunday, July 29, 2018, 3:51:01 PM MDT, shaf...@earthlink.net 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/XHDATA-D-808-Portable-Digital-Radio-FM-stereo-SW-MW-LW-SSB-RDS-Air-Band-LCD/263589135532
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>I got mine here.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>Rick S., Rodanthe NC OBX FM25go
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>From: fpeconsult...@aol.com mailto:fpeconsult...@aol.com < 
>> fpeconsult...@aol.com mailto:fpeconsult...@aol.com >
>>Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 5:12 PM
>>To: Gary DeBock < d1028g...@comcast.net mailto:d1028g...@comcast.net >
>>Cc: < shaf...@earthlink.net mailto:shaf...@earthlink.net > < 
>> shaf...@earthlink.net mailto:shaf...@earthlink.net >; America, Mailing < 
>> irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com >
>>Subject: Re: [nrc-am] XHDATA D-808-- The Summer Travel "Smoke Test"
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>Hello again & thx for the info on the loop stick vs the Select A Tenna..
>> 
>>I have heard that the lithium battery can't be shipped to the USA & is 
>> tough to obtain as well.
>> 
>>Does anyone know if this is the case?
>> 
>>Thx again
>> 
>>Rich
>> 
>> 
>>On Jul 29, 2018, at 0:31, Gary DeBock < d1028g...@comcast.net 
>> mailto:d1028g...@comcast.net > mailto:d1028g...@comcast.net > > wrote:
>> 
>>Hello Rich,
>> 
>><<< I have been seeing a lot about this radio & am considering buying one 
>> - many posts mention a loop stick - my assumption is that this doesn't come 
>> with the radio & people build them. Can someone tell me if this is so & 
>> would using an old school Super Select-a-tenna give me similar results? >>>
>> 
>>Although the stock XHDATA D-808 model already provides good AM 
>> sensitivity with its 3 7/8" (97mm) loopstick, its performance can be 
>> dramatically boosted by replacing the stock loopstick with an 
>> externally-mounted 7.5" transplant. A photo of such an enhanced D-808 model 
>> is posted at https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/vk26lkhhu77q8buzuaido03fmy5s7xst
>> 
>>This 7.5" transplant loopstick is the same one used for "supercharging" 
>> the Tecsun PL-380 model, as described in the construction article posted at 
>> http://www.mediafire.com/file/du3sr5cd9thqvau/7.5inch-LS-PL380.doc/file 
>> http://www.mediafire.com/file/du3sr5cd9thqvau/7.5inch-LS-PL380.doc/file The 
>> enhanced D-808 model would have AM sensitivity similar to that of a stock 
>> D-808 + Select-a-Tenna combo, but would not require peaking the external 
>> antenna every time a frequency is changed. This is a huge advantage for 
>> quick and easy "travel DXing."
>> 
>>73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>On July 28, 2018 at 4:36 PM fpeconsultant via NRC-AM < 
>> nrc...@googlegroups.com mailto:nrc...@googlegroups.com > nrc...@googlegroups.com mailto:nrc...@googlegroups.com > > wrote:
>> 
>>Hello - I have been seeing a lot about this radio & am considering buying 
>> one - many posts mention a loop stick - my assumption is that this doesn't 
>> come with the radio & 

Re: [IRCA] LINK FOR XHDATA D-808 PURCHASE

[Gary DeBock]

Thanks Craig,

Unfortunately that seller has never offered to ship the model to either the USA 
or Canada, despite the fact that he will ship it to Mexico for free (go 
figure?).

This is almost certainly related to the fact that a lot of the XHDATA D-808 
circuitry was "reverse engineered" from the C.Crane Skywave SSB model, and the 
company is reluctant to risk a copyright lawsuit by selling the model openly in 
North America. The eBay seller offering the model at $112 tries to avoid this 
issue by shipping through Israel-- and he is apparently doing a booming 
business by coming up with this solution.

73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)


> On July 29, 2018 at 3:19 PM C B  wrote:
> 
> This Ebay seller has a special on the XHData D-808 for a couple more days:
> 
> 
> XHDATA D 808 Portable Digital Radio FM stereo/ SW / MW / LW SSB AIR RDS 
> Multi Band Radio Speaker with LCD Display Alarm Clock-in Radio from Consumer 
> Electronics on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group 
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tecsun-PL-398MP-2-2-Full-Band-Digital-Tuning-Stereo-Radio-Receiver-w-Stand-and-MP3/1504908567.html
> 
> $79.78
> XHDATA D 808 Portable Digital Radio FM stereo/ SW / MW / LW SSB AIR RDS 
> ...
> 
> Cheap radio fm stereo, Buy Quality fm stereo directly from China portable 
> digital radio Suppliers: XHDATA D-808 ... 
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tecsun-PL-398MP-2-2-Full-Band-Digital-Tuning-Stereo-Radio-Receiver-w-Stand-and-MP3/1504908567.html
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Craig Barnes
> Wheat Ridge, CO
> 
> On Sunday, July 29, 2018, 3:51:01 PM MDT, shaf...@earthlink.net 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/XHDATA-D-808-Portable-Digital-Radio-FM-stereo-SW-MW-LW-SSB-RDS-Air-Band-LCD/263589135532
> 
> 
> 
> I got mine here.
> 
> 
> 
> Rick S., Rodanthe NC OBX FM25go
> 
> 
> 
> From: fpeconsult...@aol.com mailto:fpeconsult...@aol.com < 
> fpeconsult...@aol.com mailto:fpeconsult...@aol.com >
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 5:12 PM
> To: Gary DeBock < d1028g...@comcast.net mailto:d1028g...@comcast.net >
> Cc: < shaf...@earthlink.net mailto:shaf...@earthlink.net > < 
> shaf...@earthlink.net mailto:shaf...@earthlink.net >; America, Mailing < 
> irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com >
> Subject: Re: [nrc-am] XHDATA D-808-- The Summer Travel "Smoke Test"
> 
> 
> 
> Hello again & thx for the info on the loop stick vs the Select A Tenna.
> 
> I have heard that the lithium battery can't be shipped to the USA & is 
> tough to obtain as well.
> 
> Does anyone know if this is the case?
> 
> Thx again
> 
> Rich
> 
> 
> On Jul 29, 2018, at 0:31, Gary DeBock < d1028g...@comcast.net 
> mailto:d1028g...@comcast.net  mailto:d1028g...@comcast.net > > wrote:
> 
> Hello Rich,
> 
> <<< I have been seeing a lot about this radio & am considering buying one 
> - many posts mention a loop stick - my assumption is that this doesn't come 
> with the radio & people build them. Can someone tell me if this is so & would 
> using an old school Super Select-a-tenna give me similar results? >>>
> 
> Although the stock XHDATA D-808 model already provides good AM 
> sensitivity with its 3 7/8" (97mm) loopstick, its performance can be 
> dramatically boosted by replacing the stock loopstick with an 
> externally-mounted 7.5" transplant. A photo of such an enhanced D-808 model 
> is posted at https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/vk26lkhhu77q8buzuaido03fmy5s7xst
> 
> This 7.5" transplant loopstick is the same one used for "supercharging" 
> the Tecsun PL-380 model, as described in the construction article posted at 
> http://www.mediafire.com/file/du3sr5cd9thqvau/7.5inch-LS-PL380.doc/file 
> http://www.mediafire.com/file/du3sr5cd9thqvau/7.5inch-LS-PL380.doc/file The 
> enhanced D-808 model would have AM sensitivity similar to that of a stock 
> D-808 + Select-a-Tenna combo, but would not require peaking the external 
> antenna every time a frequency is changed. This is a huge advantage for quick 
> and easy "travel DXing."
> 
> 73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On July 28, 2018 at 4:36 PM fpeconsultant via NRC-AM < 
> nrc...@googlegroups.com mailto:nrc...@googlegroups.com  nrc...@googlegroups.com mailto:nrc...@googlegroups.com > > wrote:
> 
> Hello - I have been seeing a lot about this radio & am considering buying 
> one - many posts mention a loop stick - my assumption is that this doesn't 
> come with the radio & people build them.  Can someone tell me if this is so & 
> would using an old school Super Select-a-tenna give me similar results?
> 
> Thx
> 
> Rich
> 
> 
> On Jul 28, 2018, at 14:09, < shaf...@earthlink.net 
> mailto:shaf...@earthlink.net  mailto:shaf...@earthlink.net > > wrote:
> 
> This is the best portable I’ve seen yet.
> 
>  
> 
> Rick Shaftan
> 
> Rodanthe NC OBX FM25go
> 
>  
> 
> From: nrc...@googlegroups.com mailto:nrc...@googlegroups.com  

Re: [IRCA] LINK FOR XHDATA D-808 PURCHASE

[C B via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---
 This Ebay seller has a special on the XHData D-808 for a couple more days:

XHDATA D 808 Portable Digital Radio FM stereo/ SW / MW / LW SSB AIR RDS Multi 
Band Radio Speaker with LCD Display Alarm Clock-in Radio from Consumer 
Electronics on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group


| 
| 
| 
| $79.78 |  |

 |

 |
| 
|  | 
XHDATA D 808 Portable Digital Radio FM stereo/ SW / MW / LW SSB AIR RDS ...

Cheap radio fm stereo, Buy Quality fm stereo directly from China portable 
digital radio Suppliers: XHDATA D-808 ...
 |

 |

 |



73,
Craig BarnesWheat Ridge, CO
On Sunday, July 29, 2018, 3:51:01 PM MDT, shaf...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:  
 
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/XHDATA-D-808-Portable-Digital-Radio-FM-stereo-SW-MW-LW-SSB-RDS-Air-Band-LCD/263589135532

 

I got mine here.

 

Rick S., Rodanthe NC OBX FM25go

 

From: fpeconsult...@aol.com  
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 5:12 PM
To: Gary DeBock 
Cc:  ; America, Mailing 

Subject: Re: [nrc-am] XHDATA D-808-- The Summer Travel "Smoke Test"

 

Hello again & thx for the info on the loop stick vs the Select A Tenna.

I have heard that the lithium battery can't be shipped to the USA & is tough to 
obtain as well.

Does anyone know if this is the case?

Thx again

Rich 


On Jul 29, 2018, at 0:31, Gary DeBock mailto:d1028g...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Hello Rich,

<<< I have been seeing a lot about this radio & am considering buying one - 
many posts mention a loop stick - my assumption is that this doesn't come with 
the radio & people build them. Can someone tell me if this is so & would using 
an old school Super Select-a-tenna give me similar results? >>>

Although the stock XHDATA D-808 model already provides good AM sensitivity with 
its 3 7/8" (97mm) loopstick, its performance can be dramatically boosted by 
replacing the stock loopstick with an externally-mounted 7.5" transplant. A 
photo of such an enhanced D-808 model is posted at 
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/vk26lkhhu77q8buzuaido03fmy5s7xst

This 7.5" transplant loopstick is the same one used for "supercharging" the 
Tecsun PL-380 model, as described in the construction article posted at 
http://www.mediafire.com/file/du3sr5cd9thqvau/7.5inch-LS-PL380.doc/file The 
enhanced D-808 model would have AM sensitivity similar to that of a stock D-808 
+ Select-a-Tenna combo, but would not require peaking the external antenna 
every time a frequency is changed. This is a huge advantage for quick and easy 
"travel DXing." 

73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)




On July 28, 2018 at 4:36 PM fpeconsultant via NRC-AM mailto:nrc...@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

Hello - I have been seeing a lot about this radio & am considering buying one - 
many posts mention a loop stick - my assumption is that this doesn't come with 
the radio & people build them.  Can someone tell me if this is so & would using 
an old school Super Select-a-tenna give me similar results? 

Thx 

Rich 


On Jul 28, 2018, at 14:09, < shaf...@earthlink.net 
 > wrote: 

This is the best portable I’ve seen yet. 

  

Rick Shaftan 

Rodanthe NC OBX FM25go 

  

From: nrc...@googlegroups.com   
mailto:nrc...@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Gary 
DeBock
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 1:18 AM
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Subject: [nrc-am] XHDATA D-808-- The Summer Travel "Smoke Test" 

  

    Detailed information concerning the new, Chinese-made XHDATA D-808 
AM-LW-FM-SW-AIR portable has been posted previously, including its 
hot-performing AM-DXing loopstick, SSB capability and rechargeable lithium-ion 
battery. This model was "inspired" (to be generous) by the C.Crane Skywave SSB 
model, which was manufactured in the nearby Redsun factories in China-- with 
the first model sold a few months before the D-808 was "reverse-engineered." 

    As reported previously, the D-808 makes a few significant improvements over 
the Skywave SSB model-- a longer, more sensitive AM loopstick, a much stronger 
audio amplifier, and a much lower price ($112 on eBay, versus $169.99 for the 
Skywave SSB). After a few months with the company declining to ship to North 
American customers (apparently to avoid a copyright lawsuit because of the SSB 
circuitry, identical to that of the Skywave SSB), a single Chinese eBay seller 
is now doing a booming business, shipping the model to North American customers 
through Israel. 

After performing two MW and one Longwave 7.5" loopstick transplants on the 
D-808 model, I can confirm that the model is well engineered (or maybe well 
reverse engineered?), with the loopstick connections on the RF circuit board 
unusually accessible, and ideal for soldering larger diameter Litz wire. There 
are actually two terminal connections for this purpose-- most likely to make it 
easy for the XHDATA engineers to test out various loopsticks. 

And a loopstick transplant on the D-808 may be easier to contemplate 

[IRCA] LINK FOR XHDATA D-808 PURCHASE

[shaftan]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/XHDATA-D-808-Portable-Digital-Radio-FM-stereo-SW-MW-LW-SSB-RDS-Air-Band-LCD/263589135532

 

I got mine here.

 

Rick S., Rodanthe NC OBX FM25go

 

From: fpeconsult...@aol.com  
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 5:12 PM
To: Gary DeBock 
Cc:  ; America, Mailing 

Subject: Re: [nrc-am] XHDATA D-808-- The Summer Travel "Smoke Test"

 

Hello again & thx for the info on the loop stick vs the Select A Tenna.

I have heard that the lithium battery can't be shipped to the USA & is tough to 
obtain as well.

Does anyone know if this is the case?

Thx again

Rich 


On Jul 29, 2018, at 0:31, Gary DeBock mailto:d1028g...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Hello Rich,

<<< I have been seeing a lot about this radio & am considering buying one - 
many posts mention a loop stick - my assumption is that this doesn't come with 
the radio & people build them. Can someone tell me if this is so & would using 
an old school Super Select-a-tenna give me similar results? >>>

Although the stock XHDATA D-808 model already provides good AM sensitivity with 
its 3 7/8" (97mm) loopstick, its performance can be dramatically boosted by 
replacing the stock loopstick with an externally-mounted 7.5" transplant. A 
photo of such an enhanced D-808 model is posted at 
https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/vk26lkhhu77q8buzuaido03fmy5s7xst

This 7.5" transplant loopstick is the same one used for "supercharging" the 
Tecsun PL-380 model, as described in the construction article posted at 
http://www.mediafire.com/file/du3sr5cd9thqvau/7.5inch-LS-PL380.doc/file The 
enhanced D-808 model would have AM sensitivity similar to that of a stock D-808 
+ Select-a-Tenna combo, but would not require peaking the external antenna 
every time a frequency is changed. This is a huge advantage for quick and easy 
"travel DXing." 

73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)




On July 28, 2018 at 4:36 PM fpeconsultant via NRC-AM mailto:nrc...@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

Hello - I have been seeing a lot about this radio & am considering buying one - 
many posts mention a loop stick - my assumption is that this doesn't come with 
the radio & people build them.  Can someone tell me if this is so & would using 
an old school Super Select-a-tenna give me similar results? 

Thx 

Rich 


On Jul 28, 2018, at 14:09, < shaf...@earthlink.net 
 > wrote: 

This is the best portable I’ve seen yet. 

  

Rick Shaftan 

Rodanthe NC OBX FM25go 

  

From: nrc...@googlegroups.com   
mailto:nrc...@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Gary 
DeBock
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 1:18 AM
To: America, Mailing mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com> >; 
NRC mailto:nrc...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: [nrc-am] XHDATA D-808-- The Summer Travel "Smoke Test" 

  

 Detailed information concerning the new, Chinese-made XHDATA D-808 
AM-LW-FM-SW-AIR portable has been posted previously, including its 
hot-performing AM-DXing loopstick, SSB capability and rechargeable lithium-ion 
battery. This model was "inspired" (to be generous) by the C.Crane Skywave SSB 
model, which was manufactured in the nearby Redsun factories in China-- with 
the first model sold a few months before the D-808 was "reverse-engineered." 

 As reported previously, the D-808 makes a few significant improvements 
over the Skywave SSB model-- a longer, more sensitive AM loopstick, a much 
stronger audio amplifier, and a much lower price ($112 on eBay, versus $169.99 
for the Skywave SSB). After a few months with the company declining to ship to 
North American customers (apparently to avoid a copyright lawsuit because of 
the SSB circuitry, identical to that of the Skywave SSB), a single Chinese eBay 
seller is now doing a booming business, shipping the model to North American 
customers through Israel. 

After performing two MW and one Longwave 7.5" loopstick transplants on the 
D-808 model, I can confirm that the model is well engineered (or maybe well 
reverse engineered?), with the loopstick connections on the RF circuit board 
unusually accessible, and ideal for soldering larger diameter Litz wire. There 
are actually two terminal connections for this purpose-- most likely to make it 
easy for the XHDATA engineers to test out various loopsticks. 

And a loopstick transplant on the D-808 may be easier to contemplate if you 
consider the fact that you will not be violating the XHDATA warranty by 
replacing the loopstick. Why not? Because there is no evidence of any XHDATA 
warranty on the model, either online, or in the documents shipped along with 
the portable :-) 

 As such, I thought I would submit a D-808 model to a very rough break-in 
test during extensive summer travel these past two weeks. A 7.5" MW loopstick 
D-808 model was taken along during road trips to eastern Washington (complete 
with 100 degree F/ 43 degree C temperatures), rough mountain roads (on Mount 
Rainier, Mount Baker and Hurricane Ridge) and a visit to Vancouver, BC. 

 Once the