Re: [IRCA] OT 2014 Dodge Caravan radio question

[Patrick Martin]

My old 65 Rambler, 1970 Impala, as well as the 89 & 97 Caravans all had good 
radio in them. There are radios out there that are sensitive, but getting one 
to fit the dash may be another issue.

   Internet radio is not practical on the coast. Unless I go with a carrier 
like Verizon, the others are more spotty and I have my cel phone account with 
Verizon and to have enough data to stream radio would be quite costly. Now if I 
lived in Portland or the Valley, Seattle, etc, the charges are less as there 
are many carriers to choose from. We have several out here, but Verizon has by 
far the best coverage, but also is the most expensive. I do have a wifi radio 
at home as well as the Roku for radio & TV, but getting the signal off the 
Verizon tower is expensive if I want to run it all day while I go from job to 
job.


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Patrick,

My experience with car radios has been not 100% but pretty much the
older the better.  My folks had a 1960 Chevy when I was in High School
and the radio in it far outperformed any of the radios in newer
vehicles.  I lived in Tucson at the time and I could, especially in the
winter hear KOMA at 4 o'clock in the afternoon.

The AM radios in most aftermarket car stereos are even worse.

Steve

On 3/15/17 3:58 AM, Patrick Martin wrote:
> Jim,
>
>
> I have had a lot of Caravans starting with the 89, then the 97, and now the 
> 2014. Both the 89 & 97 had ignition noise on AM, but the radios were fairly 
> sensitive. This one is nothing to write home about regarding sensitivity. 
> That is one reason I was wondering if there is some adjustment to peak the 
> antenna like years ago. But with so much computer stuff today, there is 
> probably some chip and self adjusts, but I have no clue.
>


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Re: [IRCA] OT 2014 Dodge Caravan radio question

[Patrick Martin]

I am not hearing noise on the radio. That issue has been solved. Infact both 
the 89 & 97 Dodge Caravans I always had some ignition noise (spark plus, etc), 
but the radio in the 2014 is fairly quiet on AM, but some not very sensitive. 
Of course if I increase the sensitivity, possibly the the car noise will get 
into the radio more.


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Patrick, I agree with Steve.  Any new car I've driven (my own, and rental)
have generally been pretty poor on AM.  I just drove a Nissan Leaf
electric, and it was simply awful on AM.  Everytime I accelerated, I could
hear all of the electronics whirring and wining, even on strong stations.
FM was fine.73,  Walt

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Hawkins <n...@wccta.net> wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> My experience with car radios has been not 100% but pretty much the older
> the better.  My folks had a 1960 Chevy when I was in High School and the
> radio in it far outperformed any of the radios in newer vehicles.  I lived
> in Tucson at the time and I could, especially in the winter hear KOMA at 4
> o'clock in the afternoon.
>
> The AM radios in most aftermarket car stereos are even worse.
>
> Steve
>
> On 3/15/17 3:58 AM, Patrick Martin wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>>
>> I have had a lot of Caravans starting with the 89, then the 97, and now
>> the 2014. Both the 89 & 97 had ignition noise on AM, but the radios were
>> fairly sensitive. This one is nothing to write home about regarding
>> sensitivity. That is one reason I was wondering if there is some adjustment
>> to peak the antenna like years ago. But with so much computer stuff today,
>> there is probably some chip and self adjusts, but I have no clue.
>>
>>
>
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Re: [IRCA] OT 2014 Dodge Caravan radio question

[Patrick Martin]

It is nice to know that some later car radios have decent AM sections. I do 
have my Sony HD radio I could install, but it would not fit with the the dash 
well. hi.


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The stock radio in my 2007 Subaru Outback Sport is very good. It is very
sensitive on AM and FM and is very clean with regards to car generated
noise. The only negative is that the selectivity on FM could be better.
FWIW, I have logged 67 new AM stations and 29 new FM stations during my
22 mile daily commute with that radio. I'd like to keep the radio if I
ever sell the car, but the new owner might mind the gap.

73,

Stan, WA1LOU


On 3/15/17 10:18 AM, Volodya S wrote:
> Patrick, I agree with Steve.  Any new car I've driven (my own, and rental)
> have generally been pretty poor on AM.  I just drove a Nissan Leaf
> electric, and it was simply awful on AM.  Everytime I accelerated, I could
> hear all of the electronics whirring and wining, even on strong stations.
> FM was fine.73,  Walt
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Hawkins <n...@wccta.net> wrote:
>
>> Patrick,
>>
>> My experience with car radios has been not 100% but pretty much the older
>> the better.  My folks had a 1960 Chevy when I was in High School and the
>> radio in it far outperformed any of the radios in newer vehicles.  I lived
>> in Tucson at the time and I could, especially in the winter hear KOMA at 4
>> o'clock in the afternoon.
>>
>> The AM radios in most aftermarket car stereos are even worse.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On 3/15/17 3:58 AM, Patrick Martin wrote:
>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>>
>>> I have had a lot of Caravans starting with the 89, then the 97, and now
>>> the 2014. Both the 89 & 97 had ignition noise on AM, but the radios were
>>> fairly sensitive. This one is nothing to write home about regarding
>>> sensitivity. That is one reason I was wondering if there is some adjustment
>>> to peak the antenna like years ago. But with so much computer stuff today,
>>> there is probably some chip and self adjusts, but I have no clue.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [IRCA] OT 2014 Dodge Caravan radio question

[Patrick Martin]

Karl,


I did have the noise problem with the radio, but found the regular hood mounted 
steel whip was loose. I tightened it down and suddenly the noise is gone, but 
the AM section is not very sensitive. A far cry from my 1997 or 1989. I think I 
will try to extend the whip a foot or two higher with some stiff copper wire 
and see if the gain increases. It  looks like I can unscrew the whip as it 
looks threaded to the base. If that is the case, installing a longer whip might 
be the answer. It could be, the AM section is just poor. I know some car radios 
are terrible on AM.  If that is the case, the only other answer is to replace 
the Stereo with something better like a Kenwood or Pioneer, but of course 
getting anything like that to perfectly fit the dash would not be easy 
probably. The Stereo uses a 2 din set up, so it would have to match up. Gone 
are the days when the radios were easy as you said. Everything is way to 
complicated in today's world.

Thanks Karl.  I will post any improvements.




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Re: [IRCA] OT 2014 Dodge Caravan radio question

[Patrick Martin]

I just found that out today from another DXer. So that is not the issue. Maybe 
the radio is not that sensitive. I could always add a couple feet of wire to 
the antenna and see if the gain goes up.


Patrick


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Re: [IRCA] OT 2014 Dodge Caravan radio question

[Patrick Martin]

The older Dodge Caravans were good and sensitive, but this one seems to lack 
luster. I was just wondering if I could boost the sensitivity some way. With a 
vehicle, ignition and computer noise can be an issue if everything is not 
shielded.


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Re: [IRCA] OT 2014 Dodge Caravan radio question

[Karl Zuk via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---
Hi Pat:
A couple of things to keep in mind here.
AM radio antennas are usually either etched into windshields or poorly coupled 
into rooftop modules that also designed for satellite reception.
Since new vehicles are truly spaceships, they are equipped with an arsenal of 
CPU driven computing and logic.This creates a beehive of computer noise.Even if 
your car's AM radio is sensitive and selective,the onboard noise will mask what 
it can really hear.All the SDR magic in the world isn't worth much with a +20 
noise level.Even worse, when you are in 'aux' mode with the car nearly off,all 
the CPUs keep purring away.There is no relenting even if you are sitting in a 
parking lot or at a sea shore.
The new world answer is Internet radio now common in cars.Driving home, I can 
hear Radio New Zealand International in perfect stereowithout any worries about 
propagation. I can hear several varieties of ABC Australia, too.It compensates 
for my 9580 withdrawal every morning!I'm really good except when I pass a pole 
pig sending out signals like a spark gaptransmitter from 110 years ago. The 
more things change
Pat: I doubt a new Caravan has an AM trimmer.It is all incorporated into the 
design now.It is probably software controlled.I have memories of removing knobs 
on pushbutton car radios to trim the antenna matching.Those days are gone - but 
we are not gone yet!Also, forget the AM boosters. They only amplify noise.Best 
solution: Drive closer to the AM station (how sad.)Enjoy the cow pastures and 
beautiful seashores.
All the best, Karl  From: Patrick Martin <mwd...@webtv.net>
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 Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 9:58 PM
 Subject: [IRCA] OT 2014 Dodge Caravan radio question
   
I recently bought a 2014 Dodge Caravan as my old 1997 finally quit. Anyway, I 
like the vehicle, but I found the AM section of the radio nearly useless (FM 
and CD are fine). The noise level was terrible with computer noise. Yesterday 
in checking the antenna was not too tight. I tightened the antenna and the 
noise is gone. The signal strength could be better. I have not taken the radio 
out to check, but is there a peaking screw (cap) like there used to be? Anyone 
know? I see there are AM boosters for car radios, but I presume that may 
generate noise.

Any thoughts?  The old Caravan AM sections were pretty decent in sensitivity, 
but not many listen to AM now. Thanks.


Patrick


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Re: [IRCA] OT 2014 Dodge Caravan radio question

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When I was looking for cars in 2013, the Nissan Cube had THE best AM I have 
seen in decades. The 2013 Chevy Sonic is pretty good ( but not as good as my 
F-150). The Sonic antenna is a just a few inches tall.  

Powell


 

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Re: [IRCA] OT 2014 Dodge Caravan radio question

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No adjustment  

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Jim,


I have had a lot of Caravans starting with the 89, then the 97, and now the 
2014. Both the 89 & 97 had ignition noise on AM, but the radios were fairly 
sensitive. This one is nothing to write home about regarding sensitivity. That 
is one reason I was wondering if there is some adjustment to peak the antenna 
like years ago. But with so much computer stuff today, there is probably some 
chip and self adjusts, but I have no clue.


Patrick


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Re: [IRCA] OT 2014 Dodge Caravan radio question

[Stan Horzepa]

The stock radio in my 2007 Subaru Outback Sport is very good. It is very 
sensitive on AM and FM and is very clean with regards to car generated 
noise. The only negative is that the selectivity on FM could be better. 
FWIW, I have logged 67 new AM stations and 29 new FM stations during my 
22 mile daily commute with that radio. I'd like to keep the radio if I 
ever sell the car, but the new owner might mind the gap.


73,

Stan, WA1LOU


On 3/15/17 10:18 AM, Volodya S wrote:

Patrick, I agree with Steve.  Any new car I've driven (my own, and rental)
have generally been pretty poor on AM.  I just drove a Nissan Leaf
electric, and it was simply awful on AM.  Everytime I accelerated, I could
hear all of the electronics whirring and wining, even on strong stations.
FM was fine.73,  Walt

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Hawkins  wrote:


Patrick,

My experience with car radios has been not 100% but pretty much the older
the better.  My folks had a 1960 Chevy when I was in High School and the
radio in it far outperformed any of the radios in newer vehicles.  I lived
in Tucson at the time and I could, especially in the winter hear KOMA at 4
o'clock in the afternoon.

The AM radios in most aftermarket car stereos are even worse.

Steve

On 3/15/17 3:58 AM, Patrick Martin wrote:


Jim,


I have had a lot of Caravans starting with the 89, then the 97, and now
the 2014. Both the 89 & 97 had ignition noise on AM, but the radios were
fairly sensitive. This one is nothing to write home about regarding
sensitivity. That is one reason I was wondering if there is some adjustment
to peak the antenna like years ago. But with so much computer stuff today,
there is probably some chip and self adjusts, but I have no clue.



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Re: [IRCA] OT 2014 Dodge Caravan radio question

[Volodya S]

Patrick, I agree with Steve.  Any new car I've driven (my own, and rental)
have generally been pretty poor on AM.  I just drove a Nissan Leaf
electric, and it was simply awful on AM.  Everytime I accelerated, I could
hear all of the electronics whirring and wining, even on strong stations.
FM was fine.73,  Walt

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> Patrick,
>
> My experience with car radios has been not 100% but pretty much the older
> the better.  My folks had a 1960 Chevy when I was in High School and the
> radio in it far outperformed any of the radios in newer vehicles.  I lived
> in Tucson at the time and I could, especially in the winter hear KOMA at 4
> o'clock in the afternoon.
>
> The AM radios in most aftermarket car stereos are even worse.
>
> Steve
>
> On 3/15/17 3:58 AM, Patrick Martin wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>>
>> I have had a lot of Caravans starting with the 89, then the 97, and now
>> the 2014. Both the 89 & 97 had ignition noise on AM, but the radios were
>> fairly sensitive. This one is nothing to write home about regarding
>> sensitivity. That is one reason I was wondering if there is some adjustment
>> to peak the antenna like years ago. But with so much computer stuff today,
>> there is probably some chip and self adjusts, but I have no clue.
>>
>>
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Re: [IRCA] OT 2014 Dodge Caravan radio question

[Hawkins]

Patrick,

My experience with car radios has been not 100% but pretty much the 
older the better.  My folks had a 1960 Chevy when I was in High School 
and the radio in it far outperformed any of the radios in newer 
vehicles.  I lived in Tucson at the time and I could, especially in the 
winter hear KOMA at 4 o'clock in the afternoon.


The AM radios in most aftermarket car stereos are even worse.

Steve

On 3/15/17 3:58 AM, Patrick Martin wrote:

Jim,


I have had a lot of Caravans starting with the 89, then the 97, and now the 2014. 
Both the 89 & 97 had ignition noise on AM, but the radios were fairly 
sensitive. This one is nothing to write home about regarding sensitivity. That is 
one reason I was wondering if there is some adjustment to peak the antenna like 
years ago. But with so much computer stuff today, there is probably some chip and 
self adjusts, but I have no clue.




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Re: [IRCA] OT 2014 Dodge Caravan radio question

[Patrick Martin]

Jim,


I have had a lot of Caravans starting with the 89, then the 97, and now the 
2014. Both the 89 & 97 had ignition noise on AM, but the radios were fairly 
sensitive. This one is nothing to write home about regarding sensitivity. That 
is one reason I was wondering if there is some adjustment to peak the antenna 
like years ago. But with so much computer stuff today, there is probably some 
chip and self adjusts, but I have no clue.


Patrick


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Subject: Re: [IRCA] OT 2014 Dodge Caravan radio question

I had a 1992 or so Caravan.  Radio was good, but then one day it started
hashing badly.  No longer able to get CBL 740 which should have been easy
from here in the day.   I took it to an ace repair shop and the guy said it
was "clouds".  I explained that clouds cause nothing like this, but he
completely dismissed what I said.  Never went there again. Russ Edmunds
suggested grounding the hood to the body but that didn't do anything.  Jim
Renfrew

On Mar 14, 2017 21:58, "Patrick Martin" <mwd...@webtv.net> wrote:

> I recently bought a 2014 Dodge Caravan as my old 1997 finally quit.
> Anyway, I like the vehicle, but I found the AM section of the radio nearly
> useless (FM and CD are fine). The noise level was terrible with computer
> noise. Yesterday in checking the antenna was not too tight. I tightened the
> antenna and the noise is gone. The signal strength could be better. I have
> not taken the radio out to check, but is there a peaking screw (cap) like
> there used to be? Anyone know? I see there are AM boosters for car radios,
> but I presume that may generate noise.
>
> Any thoughts?  The old Caravan AM sections were pretty decent in
> sensitivity, but not many listen to AM now. Thanks.
>
>
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Re: [IRCA] OT 2014 Dodge Caravan radio question

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I had a 1992 or so Caravan.  Radio was good, but then one day it started
hashing badly.  No longer able to get CBL 740 which should have been easy
from here in the day.   I took it to an ace repair shop and the guy said it
was "clouds".  I explained that clouds cause nothing like this, but he
completely dismissed what I said.  Never went there again. Russ Edmunds
suggested grounding the hood to the body but that didn't do anything.  Jim
Renfrew

On Mar 14, 2017 21:58, "Patrick Martin"  wrote:

> I recently bought a 2014 Dodge Caravan as my old 1997 finally quit.
> Anyway, I like the vehicle, but I found the AM section of the radio nearly
> useless (FM and CD are fine). The noise level was terrible with computer
> noise. Yesterday in checking the antenna was not too tight. I tightened the
> antenna and the noise is gone. The signal strength could be better. I have
> not taken the radio out to check, but is there a peaking screw (cap) like
> there used to be? Anyone know? I see there are AM boosters for car radios,
> but I presume that may generate noise.
>
> Any thoughts?  The old Caravan AM sections were pretty decent in
> sensitivity, but not many listen to AM now. Thanks.
>
>
> Patrick
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[IRCA] OT 2014 Dodge Caravan radio question

[Patrick Martin]

I recently bought a 2014 Dodge Caravan as my old 1997 finally quit. Anyway, I 
like the vehicle, but I found the AM section of the radio nearly useless (FM 
and CD are fine). The noise level was terrible with computer noise. Yesterday 
in checking the antenna was not too tight. I tightened the antenna and the 
noise is gone. The signal strength could be better. I have not taken the radio 
out to check, but is there a peaking screw (cap) like there used to be? Anyone 
know? I see there are AM boosters for car radios, but I presume that may 
generate noise.

Any thoughts?  The old Caravan AM sections were pretty decent in sensitivity, 
but not many listen to AM now. Thanks.


Patrick


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