Re: Bismillah [IslamCity] Children in the Saff

2008-01-17 Thread abdeen
You should stand next to the child whether he is in the front saff or the rear 
one
This is according to you.
Fiqh-us-Sunnah

Fiqh 2.63a

The positioning of the young and the women
The Messenger of Allah placed the men in front of the young boys and the women 
behind the young boys. This is related by Ahmad and Abu Dawud.


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Children in the Saff
Masâil related to children standing in the saff for salâh
Moulana Mufti Abdur Raûf Sahib Sakkharwi
Categories of Children
There are three categories of children:
(1) The first type are those who are innocent and young. They neither 
understand the etiquette of the masjid nor do they know anything about salâh. 
They do not have the understanding that the masjid is a place for worshipping 
Allâh. There is also the danger that they urinate in the masjid or play therein 
and violate its sanctity. Children of five to six years fall in this category. 
The ruling for such children is that it is not permissible to bring them to the 
masjid. It is the responsibility of the parents to see that they do not bring 
such children to the masjid. If they do so and the children violate the 
sanctity of Allâh's house, the parents will be sinful because the children 
themselves are innocent. The masjid trustees can also prohibit such children 
from entering the masjid.
There is a limit for every act in Shari'ah. These limits are what we 
call Dîn and we all have to abide by these limits.
(2) The second category is those children who are slightly elder. They 
are between seven to eleven years old. Such children understand the status of a 
masjid and respect it to a certain degree. However, due to lack of a complete 
understanding, they do not respect it fully. It is permissible to bring such 
children to the masjid but it is better not to do so.
(3) The third category of children is those who are close to maturity. 
Their ages range from twelve to fourteen. However, a fifteen-year-old child is 
considered mature even if he does not have any signs of puberty. The ruling for 
this category is that they should be brought to the masjid in order to 
inculcate the habit of salâh with congregation because salâh becomes obligatory 
on them the moment they reach the age of puberty. It is obligatory on them to 
attend the masjid for salâh with congregation. If this habit is not inculcated 
before puberty, it will take time after puberty as a result of which they will 
forgo their salâhs with congregation. Thus it is imperative to bring the 
youngsters to the masjid while guiding them at home to respect the masjid. They 
should be taught not to make a noise in the masjid as it is a sanctified place 
where the name of Allâh is taken.
The Position of the Children's Saff
The children's saff should be made after the men's saff has been 
completed. This is the sunnah way. After the salâh has begun, those who arrive 
later should join the children's saff on the right and left side.
Moving the children
Some latecomers move the children further back when seeing them in the 
saff. Some people hold the child by the ears and drag him to the back. If the 
child resists, he is carried to the back. Whoever comes late does this. This 
occurs in many of the masjids. If the child was in the first saff at the 
beginning of salâh, he reaches the last saff at the end of salâh. This is 
because most people come late for salâh nowadays. Whoever enters the masjid, 
does this thinking that it is not permissible to perform salâh next to 
children. This is completely wrong. One should free one's mind of such a 
thought. You should stand next to the child whether he is in the front saff or 
the rear one. You may stand on his right-hand side or his left-hand side. This 
does not affect the salâh of the adults.
All late comers should stand at the back next to the children. It is 
not permissible to shunt the children further back. Such an act is sinful By 
doing this, we are nullifying their salâh and thereby placing that sin on our 
shoulders.
Standing in the adults' saff
If the children that attend the masjid for salâh are not well 
disciplined and they run around in the masjid, play fools, laugh and talk, then 
the ruling for such children is that they should be separated and made to stand 
among the adults. A separate saff should not be made for them. This will 
prevent them from disturbing others in their salâh. If there are only one or 
two children, then it is permissible to make them stand with the adults without 
any karâhat [abomination].
Discipline
We should also remember the way shown to us by Nabî Sallallâhu alaihi 
wasallam when dealing with children

Bismillah [IslamCity] Children in the Saff

2008-01-14 Thread adil naveed
Children in the Saff 
  Masâil related to children standing in the saff for salâh
  Moulana Mufti Abdur Raûf Sahib Sakkharwi
  Categories of Children 
  There are three categories of children:
  (1) The first type are those who are innocent and young. They neither 
understand the etiquette of the masjid nor do they know anything about salâh. 
They do not have the understanding that the masjid is a place for worshipping 
Allâh. There is also the danger that they urinate in the masjid or play therein 
and violate its sanctity. Children of five to six years fall in this category. 
The ruling for such children is that it is not permissible to bring them to the 
masjid. It is the responsibility of the parents to see that they do not bring 
such children to the masjid. If they do so and the children violate the 
sanctity of Allâh's house, the parents will be sinful because the children 
themselves are innocent. The masjid trustees can also prohibit such children 
from entering the masjid. 
  There is a limit for every act in Shari'ah. These limits are what we call 
Dîn and we all have to abide by these limits. 
  (2) The second category is those children who are slightly elder. They 
are between seven to eleven years old. Such children understand the status of a 
masjid and respect it to a certain degree. However, due to lack of a complete 
understanding, they do not respect it fully. It is permissible to bring such 
children to the masjid but it is better not to do so. 
  (3) The third category of children is those who are close to maturity. 
Their ages range from twelve to fourteen. However, a fifteen-year-old child is 
considered mature even if he does not have any signs of puberty. The ruling for 
this category is that they should be brought to the masjid in order to 
inculcate the habit of salâh with congregation because salâh becomes obligatory 
on them the moment they reach the age of puberty. It is obligatory on them to 
attend the masjid for salâh with congregation. If this habit is not inculcated 
before puberty, it will take time after puberty as a result of which they will 
forgo their salâhs with congregation. Thus it is imperative to bring the 
youngsters to the masjid while guiding them at home to respect the masjid. They 
should be taught not to make a noise in the masjid as it is a sanctified place 
where the name of Allâh is taken.
  The Position of the Children's Saff
  The children's saff should be made after the men's saff has been 
completed. This is the sunnah way. After the salâh has begun, those who arrive 
later should join the children's saff on the right and left side. 
  Moving the children
  Some latecomers move the children further back when seeing them in the 
saff. Some people hold the child by the ears and drag him to the back. If the 
child resists, he is carried to the back. Whoever comes late does this. This 
occurs in many of the masjids. If the child was in the first saff at the 
beginning of salâh, he reaches the last saff at the end of salâh. This is 
because most people come late for salâh nowadays. Whoever enters the masjid, 
does this thinking that it is not permissible to perform salâh next to 
children. This is completely wrong. One should free one's mind of such a 
thought. You should stand next to the child whether he is in the front saff or 
the rear one. You may stand on his right-hand side or his left-hand side. This 
does not affect the salâh of the adults.
  All late comers should stand at the back next to the children. It is not 
permissible to shunt the children further back. Such an act is sinful By doing 
this, we are nullifying their salâh and thereby placing that sin on our 
shoulders. 
  Standing in the adults' saff
  If the children that attend the masjid for salâh are not well disciplined 
and they run around in the masjid, play fools, laugh and talk, then the ruling 
for such children is that they should be separated and made to stand among the 
adults. A separate saff should not be made for them. This will prevent them 
from disturbing others in their salâh. If there are only one or two children, 
then it is permissible to make them stand with the adults without any karâhat 
[abomination]. 
  Discipline
  We should also remember the way shown to us by Nabî Sallallâhu alaihi 
wasallam when dealing with children. They should not be mercilessly treated and 
beaten up. Nabî Sallallâhu alaihi wasallam said, One who does not have mercy 
on our young ones and does not respect our elders is not from amongst us. Anâs 
Radhiallâhu anhu served Nabî Sallallâhu alaihi wasallam for ten years but not 
once did Nabî Sallallâhu alaihi wasallam reprimand him for doing something or 
for not doing something.
  Thus it is against the sunnah to severely reprimand or beat a child. 
Furthermore, a severe reprimand seldom has a lasting effect. The child may 
refrain temporarily from that act