[GitHub] zentol commented on issue #6542: [FLINK-6437][History Server] Move history server configuration to a separate file

2018-10-14 Thread GitBox
zentol commented on issue #6542: [FLINK-6437][History Server] Move history 
server configuration to a separate file
URL: https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/6542#issuecomment-429609834
 
 
   My opinion hasn't changed, I still don't think that it is worth it.
   
   Separating the HistoryServer from your cluster environment is already 
trivial: just copy flink-dist to separate locations.
   The downside here is you end up with a plethora of unused jars in the 
HistoryServer copy, but I'd argue that the HistoryServer shouldn't be bundled 
with flink-dist in such a messy way and instead be distributed as a standalone 
application. However this shouldn't be discussed in this PR.


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[GitHub] zentol commented on issue #6542: [FLINK-6437][History Server] Move history server configuration to a separate file

2018-08-13 Thread GitBox
zentol commented on issue #6542: [FLINK-6437][History Server] Move history 
server configuration to a separate file
URL: https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/6542#issuecomment-412622673
 
 
   well I still like the idea of separate config files, but the JIRA discussion 
happened
   more than a year ago, _before we even had released the HistoryServer_. Now 
we have to think about backwards compatibility and will thus naturally end up 
adding complexity. I'm not sure if this is really worth it, especially so since 
this issue has never been raised again since the HS was released.


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[GitHub] zentol commented on issue #6542: [FLINK-6437][History Server] Move history server configuration to a separate file

2018-08-13 Thread GitBox
zentol commented on issue #6542: [FLINK-6437][History Server] Move history 
server configuration to a separate file
URL: https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/6542#issuecomment-412590513
 
 
   That strategy is already implemented, but it doesn't really address 
backwards compatibility imo. I would assume that when people upgrade they'll 
end up with the default `flink-historyserver-conf.yaml` being present in `conf` 
overwriting everything in `flink-conf.yaml`.
   
   We could comment out everything in in the HS config file, always read both 
and prioritize contents in the HS config. This wouldn't affect old users (we 
could also guide them with logging messages if settings are found in 
`flink-conf.yaml`, nor should it affect new users as either a) they have to set 
a key anyway or b) a sane default handles this case.
   
   Still, I'm wondering whether there's really a benefit here. If we start 
splitting config files I'd prefer if we'd to the same for the client.


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[GitHub] zentol commented on issue #6542: [FLINK-6437][History Server] Move history server configuration to a separate file

2018-08-13 Thread GitBox
zentol commented on issue #6542: [FLINK-6437][History Server] Move history 
server configuration to a separate file
URL: https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/6542#issuecomment-412430748
 
 
   I don't think we should do this _now_. It seems like there's little to gain 
at this point, since we would still have to support configuration via 
`flink-conf.yaml` to not break every existing setup (like this PR does).
   
   Given that there's no overlap between HistoryServer and cluster options 
there's also little chance of accidentally messing up the configuration for the 
other one.
   
   Besides that this PR is untested (yet again!).


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