[Issue 126942] MS Office blocking AOO attachment to email

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https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126942

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--- Comment #1 from orcmid  ---
How are you attaching the AOO doc to an email.

 1. Are you creating an email and adding the doc to it as an attachment?

 2. Or are you using the Apache OpenOffice menu selection File > Send >
"Document as E-mail ..." feature?  In that case, there may be a problem finding
a default email client on your machine and this is raising what you call a
"block."  On your machine, because Microsoft Office is present, it may be
trying to use Microsoft Outlook but you haven't activated it.

 3. Also, please provide the exact message that you receive when it comes up.

What do you use to send email from your Windows 10 system?  That is important
to know so that we can figure out how you can adjust your configuration to
remove that problem.

Also, are you creating documents in Microsoft Office formats or are the open
documents in OpenDocument Format (the default Writer, Calc, and Impress with
extensions .odt, .ods, and .odp)?

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[Issue 126942] New: MS Office blocking AOO attachment to email

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  Issue ID: 126942
Issue Type: DEFECT
   Summary: MS Office blocking AOO attachment to email
   Product: Writer
   Version: 3.3.0 or older (OOo)
  Hardware: PC
OS: Windows 10
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: Blocker
  Priority: P5 (lowest)
 Component: save-export
  Assignee: issues@openoffice.apache.org
  Reporter: bobadono...@q.com

Sometimes I get an MSOffice box interrupting my attach of a AOO doc to an
email. The message says to check in Programs for a repair. I don't want to
acknowledge MS Office Suite - too expensive. It is on my computer but has not
been activated. I can't work around the block using extension odt and html?
anyway, one other extension. Can MS block my AOO legitimately?

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[Issue 125954] Sending document as Email removes invisible content - this should be a configuration option

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https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125954

--- Comment #23 from orcmid  ---
(In reply to orcmid from comment #22)
A couple of corrections.

>  1. The removal of hidden information is intended to accomplish two things:
> *prevention*of* inadvertent disclosure [...]
> 
>  2. The removal of hidden information when "Send Document as E-mail ..." is
> used is appropriate default behavior that protects casual users.  It is also
> important that the behavior with Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice are the
> same.

Note that stripping of hidden content also protects an user who inadvertently
forwards a document containing hidden content unknown to them.

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[Issue 125954] Sending document as Email removes invisible content - this should be a configuration option

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https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125954

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--- Comment #22 from orcmid  ---
ANALYSIS

 1. It is confirmed that hidden sections are removed from documents send
directly from Apache OpenOffice *and* LibreOffice.

 2. It is also confirmed that hidden section are not very secret, and that some
applications reveal them automatically.  That is true for the Microsoft Office
Word 2016 handling of ODT files.  (WordPad, on the other hand, does not show
the hidden section [;<).

OBSERVATIONS

 1. The removal of hidden information is intended to accomplish two things:
inadvertent disclosure and also protection of recipients from certain
document-security vulnerabilities involving covert content and silently mining
content on an user's computer.

 2. The removal of hidden information when "Send Document as E-mail ..." is
used is appropriate default behavior that protects casual users.  It is also
important that the behavior with Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice are the
same.

 3. That does not mean there could not be an option to retain hidden content,
although that involves expert users able to understand the implications and to
accomplish their purposes despite the use of hidden sections not being designed
as a privacy mechanism.  The current default should be preserved.

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[Issue 125954] Sending document as Email removes invisible content - this should be a configuration option

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--- Comment #21 from orcmid  ---
Created attachment 85513
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Confirmation that Hidden Section Removed

Because of Issue 121427, I could not demonstrate the Send Document as E-mail
... action using Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 on Windows 10.  However, I was able to
send the document via LibreOffice 5.0.0 on the same system.  

After saving the e-mail-received document to disk and opening it in Apache
OpenOffice, the hidden section is seen to be removed.

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--- Comment #20 from orcmid  ---
Created attachment 85512
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Demonstration that Word 2016 will not hide ODT hidden sections

The Attachment 84309 Hidden sections are not hidden when the ODT document is
opened directly in Word 2016.  This is demonstration that some applications do
not recognize hidden sections in ODF documents.  

While not directly tied to the original issue statements, it is confirmation
that hiding is not a fool-proof privacy mechanism.  That needs to be taken into
consideration when appraising an use case that hidden content is meant to
support.

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[Issue 121427] no email program associated to perform the requested action

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--- Comment #18 from orcmid  ---
Marking this issue as reproducible and confirmed.

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[Issue 121427] no email program associated to perform the requested action

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--- Comment #17 from orcmid  ---
Created attachment 85511
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Successful Creation of Email with Attached Document

Using the same request as in Attachment 85508, but from within LibreOffice
5.0.0, this successful initiation of an E-mail message from a cousin of
OpenOffice indicates that the difficulty is apparently that some necessary
change to how email sending is supported on more-recent versions of Windows has
not been adjusted to in Apache OpenOffice.  The test with LibreOffice is
confirmation that adjustment is available.

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[Issue 121427] no email program associated to perform the requested action

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--- Comment #16 from orcmid  ---
Created attachment 85510
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AOO response to failure of Send Document as E-mail ...

After accepting the Windows/Outlook message in Attachment 85509, Apache
OpenOffice receives a programmatic failure indication and makes this Attachment
85510 report from within AOO Writer (in this case).

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[Issue 121427] no email program associated to perform the requested action

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--- Comment #15 from orcmid  ---
Created attachment 85509
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Immediate Failure of Send Document as E-mail request

Immediately on clicking the selection in Attachment 85508, this error message
is produced.  Notice that it appears to be from Microsoft Office Outlook, but
it might be used generically by Windows 10 because Outlook is installed.  

This confirms that Windows/Outlook are recognizing a programmatic request to
create an email message, but the request cannot be fulfilled for some reason. 
The suggestion to set Outlook as the default mail client is spurious in this
case because it is already the default as confirmed in Attachment 85506 and
Attachment 85507.

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[Issue 121427] no email program associated to perform the requested action

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--- Comment #14 from orcmid  ---
Created attachment 85508
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Selecting Send Document as E-mail ...

This image is on the system with Attachment 85506 and 85507 in effect.  This is
the specific selection used to attempt to send a document open in Apache
OpenOffice Writer via email.

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[Issue 121427] no email program associated to perform the requested action

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https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121427

--- Comment #13 from orcmid  ---
Created attachment 85507
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Windows 10 COnfirming Outlook 2016 as Default Mail App

This screen capture of the Windows 10 Settings > System > Default apps settings
confirms that the operating system recognizes Outlook 2016 as the default
application for Email.  This is on the same system from which Attachment 85506
was captured.

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[Issue 121427] no email program associated to perform the requested action

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--- Comment #12 from orcmid  ---
Created attachment 85506
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Outlook 2016 Option Confirming Use as Default Mail App

This screen capture of the Microsoft Outlook 2016 Options Panel confirms that
Outlook is set as the default program for E-mail.

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[Issue 126680] Unable to save a document in ODS

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--- Comment #18 from Andrey Repin  ---
If there's some steps I can perform to produce useful debugging output, I can
do that. Just point the way.

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[Issue 125954] Sending document as Email removes invisible content - this should be a configuration option

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--- Comment #19 from orcmid  ---
Created attachment 85505
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Format of Sections in HiddenSectionSendMailBug ODT

This screen capture shows the presence of a hidden section in Attachment 84309
and how it can be found and hidden or unhidden by any user of Apache
OpenOffice, OpenOffice.org, and LibreOffice.

Note that the demonstration case is specifically with a hidden section.

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[Issue 126940] Spellcheck underlines every word in text documents

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[Issue 126941] open office 3.2 writer refuses to open

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[Issue 126680] Unable to save a document in ODS

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--- Comment #17 from Andrey Repin  ---
That's not the right question.
Right question would be "how localization could possible affect file saving?"…
Someone played with locale and forgot that not everyone using commas as
thousand separators?

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[Issue 125954] Sending document as Email removes invisible content - this should be a configuration option

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--- Comment #18 from orcmid  ---
(In reply to sandra.il...@altom.ro from comment #4)
> In order to see that I understood what the report is about, I’ve replicated
> the bug described by the initial reporter (Denis Simonet).
[ ... ]
> 6. Save the document as an .odt file
> 7. Attach the saved document to an email > Send the email to your own address
> 8. After receiving the email, open the attachment and look for the hidden
> text  
> 
> Actual result: The text hidden in OpenOffice Writer is removed, when the
> file is sent via email as an attachment.
[ ... ]

I am having trouble with this test case.  If it is the saved document (not the
document opened in Apache OpenOffice), then it is not Apache OpenOffice that is
touching the document as it is being sent as an email attachment.

Should step (7) be reworded to have the saved document opened in Apache
OpenOffice and sent via File > Send > Document as email ... ?

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[Issue 124906] Save as - HTML Document (Calc): Relative hyperlinks become absolute

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--- Comment #4 from Theodore Matula  ---
Summary: I was able to reproduce this bug with the exact steps shown in both
comment #1 and the Description.

Version: 4.2.0 AOO420m1(Build:9800)  -  Rev. 1692551

Specs:
OS: Windows 10 64-bit
Processor: Intel 17 2600k 3.4 Ghz
Graphics Card: Nvidia GTX 770 (2gb VRam)
RAM: 8 GB
Monitor: Asus 24" Monitor

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[Issue 124906] Save as - HTML Document (Calc): Relative hyperlinks become absolute

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[Issue 126680] Unable to save a document in ODS

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--- Comment #16 from Theodore Matula  ---
Maybe a problem unique to the Russian version?

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[Issue 125954] Sending document as Email removes invisible content - this should be a configuration option

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--- Comment #17 from orcmid  ---
(In reply to orcmid from comment #16)
> (In reply to Marilyn from comment #11)
> > Created attachment 85483 [details]
> > Sample odt file with deleted hidden text after the email attachment was
> > opened
[ ... ]
> (I will look at these attachments to see what they really are, also.)

Yes, the two attachments are truly .docx files.

They apparently include screen shots of .odt files.  That does not allow us to
analyze the .odt to see what is actually happening.  We need the actual files,
not screen shots.  

Also, providing screen shots inside Microsoft Word documents limits analysis of
the issue to contributors who have Microsoft Office installed.  That's not a
good expectation considering that our focus is on OpenOffice and its "native"
formats here.  (I install and use all of the products in order to analyze
interoperability, including with Office 365.  That's an exceptional case.)

For screen captures, it is better to use PNG files, which anyone who is doing
QA can presumably open and use.  (JPEG files are often too blurry to be
helpful.)  In this case, though, it is the actual ODT files that matter, since
we can only see how "hidden" is being handled that way.

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--- Comment #16 from orcmid  ---
(In reply to Marilyn from comment #11)
> Created attachment 85483 [details]
> Sample odt file with deleted hidden text after the email attachment was
> opened

I am baffled about something.  These two issue attachments are identified as
.docx documents, not .odt documents.  

I think we need to verify reproducibility with sending .odt documents to a
recipient that has OpenOffice installed.  Otherwise, we are getting confused
about conversion cases between OpenOffice and Microsoft Office.

(I will look at these attachments to see what they really are, also.)

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[Issue 126941] open office 3.2 writer refuses to open

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--- Comment #2 from orcmid  ---
You might see if any of the approaches provided at Issue 126188 are of any use
with OpenOffice.org 3.2.

You did not identify your hardware and Operating System.  Is there some
limitation that requires you to stay with 3.2?  Apache OpenOffice releases
started with 3.4 and are now up to 4.1.2.

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[Issue 125954] Sending document as Email removes invisible content - this should be a configuration option

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--- Comment #15 from Kay  ---
(In reply to Stefan Heinemann from comment #13)
> > Personally, I am a little confused why content that was specifically 
> > designated > as "hidden" should be "unhidden" when sending the document as 
> > e-mail.
> 
> Not unhidden. The default behaviour is this that hidden content is _removed_
> from the document, so once the doc is sent via E-Mail there's no way for the
> receiver to restore / unhide the hidden content.

Thanks for the clarification, Stefan.

We are having a discussion about this issue (although rather late considering
your efforts), on "dev" currently

http://markmail.org/message/z4bqggzrsv53ve2t

if you or anyone else who commented on this issue would like to take part.

Thanks again for your patch on this issue.

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[Issue 121930] Tracking Issue for Spell Checking Not Working

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--- Comment #92 from oooforum (fr)  ---
*** Issue 126940 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

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[Issue 126940] Spellcheck underlines every word in text documents

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--- Comment #2 from oooforum (fr)  ---
Already reported so many times

*** This issue has been marked as a duplicate of issue 121930 ***

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[Issue 126941] open office 3.2 writer refuses to open

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--- Comment #1 from oooforum (fr)  ---
This version is end-of-life:
https://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/eol.html

Update it with last build and look at if your problem still continue.

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