[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-3561) Expose pluggable architecture to facilitate native integration with third-party execution environments.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-3561?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14159559#comment-14159559 ] Oleg Zhurakousky commented on SPARK-3561: - Sandy, one other thing: While I understand the reasoning for changes to the title and the description of the JIRA, it would probably be better to coordinate this with the original submitter before making such changes in the future (similar to the way Patric suggested in SPARK-3174). This would alleviate potential discrepancies in the overall message and intentions of the JIRA. Anyway, I’ve edited both the title and the description taking into consideration your edits. Expose pluggable architecture to facilitate native integration with third-party execution environments. --- Key: SPARK-3561 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-3561 Project: Spark Issue Type: New Feature Components: Spark Core Affects Versions: 1.1.0 Reporter: Oleg Zhurakousky Labels: features Fix For: 1.2.0 Attachments: SPARK-3561.pdf Currently Spark _integrates with external resource-managing platforms_ such as Apache Hadoop YARN and Mesos to facilitate execution of Spark DAG in a distributed environment provided by those platforms. However, this integration is tightly coupled within Spark's implementation making it rather difficult to introduce integration points with other resource-managing platforms without constant modifications to Spark's core (see comments below for more details). In addition, Spark _does not provide any integration points to a third-party **DAG-like** and **DAG-capable** execution environments_ native to those platforms, thus limiting access to some of their native features (e.g., MR2/Tez stateless shuffle, YARN resource localization, YARN management and monitoring and more) as well as specialization aspects of such execution environments (open source and proprietary). As an example, inability to gain access to such features are starting to affect Spark's viability in large scale, batch and/or ETL applications. Introducing a pluggable architecture would solve both of the issues mentioned above ultimately benefitting Spark's technology and community by allowing it to venture into co-existence and collaboration with a variety of existing Big Data platforms as well as the once yet to come to the market. Proposal: The proposed approach would introduce a pluggable JobExecutionContext (trait) - as a non-public api (@DeveloperAPI). The trait will define 4 only operations: * hadoopFile * newAPIHadoopFile * broadcast * runJob Each method directly maps to the corresponding methods in current version of SparkContext. JobExecutionContext implementation will be accessed by SparkContext via master URL as _execution-context:foo.bar.MyJobExecutionContext_ with default implementation containing the existing code from SparkContext, thus allowing current (corresponding) methods of SparkContext to delegate to such implementation ensuring binary and source compatibility with older versions of Spark. An integrator will now have an option to provide custom implementation of DefaultExecutionContext by either implementing it from scratch or extending form DefaultExecutionContext. Please see the attached design doc and pull request for more details. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-3561) Expose pluggable architecture to facilitate native integration with third-party execution environments.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-3561?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14159573#comment-14159573 ] Sean Owen commented on SPARK-3561: -- I'd be interested to see a more specific motivating use case. Is this about using Tez for example, and where does it help to stack Spark on Tez on YARN? or MR2, etc. Spark Core and Tez overlap, to be sure, and I'm not sure how much value it adds to run one on the other. Kind of like running Oracle on MySQL or something. For whatever it is: is it maybe not more natural to integrate the feature into Spark itself? It would be great if it this were all just a matter of one extra trait and interface. In practice I suspect there are a number of hidden assumptions throughout the code that may leak through attempts at this abstraction. I am definitely asking rather than asserting, curious to see more specifics about the upside. Expose pluggable architecture to facilitate native integration with third-party execution environments. --- Key: SPARK-3561 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-3561 Project: Spark Issue Type: New Feature Components: Spark Core Affects Versions: 1.1.0 Reporter: Oleg Zhurakousky Labels: features Fix For: 1.2.0 Attachments: SPARK-3561.pdf Currently Spark _integrates with external resource-managing platforms_ such as Apache Hadoop YARN and Mesos to facilitate execution of Spark DAG in a distributed environment provided by those platforms. However, this integration is tightly coupled within Spark's implementation making it rather difficult to introduce integration points with other resource-managing platforms without constant modifications to Spark's core (see comments below for more details). In addition, Spark _does not provide any integration points to a third-party **DAG-like** and **DAG-capable** execution environments_ native to those platforms, thus limiting access to some of their native features (e.g., MR2/Tez stateless shuffle, YARN resource localization, YARN management and monitoring and more) as well as specialization aspects of such execution environments (open source and proprietary). As an example, inability to gain access to such features are starting to affect Spark's viability in large scale, batch and/or ETL applications. Introducing a pluggable architecture would solve both of the issues mentioned above ultimately benefitting Spark's technology and community by allowing it to venture into co-existence and collaboration with a variety of existing Big Data platforms as well as the once yet to come to the market. Proposal: The proposed approach would introduce a pluggable JobExecutionContext (trait) - as a non-public api (@DeveloperAPI). The trait will define 4 only operations: * hadoopFile * newAPIHadoopFile * broadcast * runJob Each method directly maps to the corresponding methods in current version of SparkContext. JobExecutionContext implementation will be accessed by SparkContext via master URL as _execution-context:foo.bar.MyJobExecutionContext_ with default implementation containing the existing code from SparkContext, thus allowing current (corresponding) methods of SparkContext to delegate to such implementation ensuring binary and source compatibility with older versions of Spark. An integrator will now have an option to provide custom implementation of DefaultExecutionContext by either implementing it from scratch or extending form DefaultExecutionContext. Please see the attached design doc and pull request for more details. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org