[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-4550) In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14529166#comment-14529166 ] Apache Spark commented on SPARK-4550: - User 'sryza' has created a pull request for this issue: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/5916 In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form --- Key: SPARK-4550 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550 Project: Spark Issue Type: Improvement Components: Shuffle, Spark Core Affects Versions: 1.2.0 Reporter: Sandy Ryza Assignee: Sandy Ryza Priority: Critical Fix For: 1.4.0 Attachments: SPARK-4550-design-v1.pdf, kryo-flush-benchmark.scala One drawback with sort-based shuffle compared to hash-based shuffle is that it ends up storing many more java objects in memory. If Spark could store map outputs in serialized form, it could * spill less often because the serialized form is more compact * reduce GC pressure This will only work when the serialized representations of objects are independent from each other and occupy contiguous segments of memory. E.g. when Kryo reference tracking is left on, objects may contain pointers to objects farther back in the stream, which means that the sort can't relocate objects without corrupting them. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-4550) In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14383280#comment-14383280 ] Sandy Ryza commented on SPARK-4550: --- Java serialization appears to write out the full class name the first time an object is written and then refer to it by an identifier afterwards: {code} scala val baos = new ByteArrayOutputStream() scala val oos = new ObjectOutputStream(baos) scala oos.writeObject(new java.util.Date()) scala oos.flush() scala baos.toString res8: String = ��??sr??java.util.Datehj�?KYtxpwLY6: x scala baos.toByteArray.length res9: Int = 46 scala oos.writeObject(new java.util.Date()) scala oos.flush() scala baos.toString res14: String = ��??sr??java.util.Datehj�?KYtxpwLY6: xsq?~??wLY6�Dx scala baos.toByteArray.length res13: Int = 63 scala oos.writeObject(new java.util.Date()) scala oos.flush() scala baos.toString res17: String = ��??sr??java.util.Datehj�?KYtxpwLY6: xsq?~??wLY6�Dxsq?~??wLY8?�x scala baos.toByteArray.length res18: Int = 80 {code} There might be some fancy way to listen for the class name being written out and relocate that segment to the front of the stream. However, this seems fairly and involved and bug-prone; my opinion is that isn't not worth it given that Java ser is already a severely performance-impaired option. Another option of course would be to write the class name in front of every record, but this would bloat the serialized representation considerably. In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form --- Key: SPARK-4550 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550 Project: Spark Issue Type: Improvement Components: Shuffle, Spark Core Affects Versions: 1.2.0 Reporter: Sandy Ryza Assignee: Sandy Ryza Priority: Critical Attachments: SPARK-4550-design-v1.pdf, kryo-flush-benchmark.scala One drawback with sort-based shuffle compared to hash-based shuffle is that it ends up storing many more java objects in memory. If Spark could store map outputs in serialized form, it could * spill less often because the serialized form is more compact * reduce GC pressure This will only work when the serialized representations of objects are independent from each other and occupy contiguous segments of memory. E.g. when Kryo reference tracking is left on, objects may contain pointers to objects farther back in the stream, which means that the sort can't relocate objects without corrupting them. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-4550) In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14383260#comment-14383260 ] Reynold Xin commented on SPARK-4550: [~sandyryza] can you investigate what's happening with Java serialization? Would be great to get that working too. In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form --- Key: SPARK-4550 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550 Project: Spark Issue Type: Improvement Components: Shuffle, Spark Core Affects Versions: 1.2.0 Reporter: Sandy Ryza Assignee: Sandy Ryza Priority: Critical Attachments: SPARK-4550-design-v1.pdf, kryo-flush-benchmark.scala One drawback with sort-based shuffle compared to hash-based shuffle is that it ends up storing many more java objects in memory. If Spark could store map outputs in serialized form, it could * spill less often because the serialized form is more compact * reduce GC pressure This will only work when the serialized representations of objects are independent from each other and occupy contiguous segments of memory. E.g. when Kryo reference tracking is left on, objects may contain pointers to objects farther back in the stream, which means that the sort can't relocate objects without corrupting them. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-4550) In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14372232#comment-14372232 ] Sandy Ryza commented on SPARK-4550: --- I spoke briefly with Reynold about this offline, and he pointed out that, with the patch, we now flush the Kryo serialization stream after every object we write. I put together a micro-benchmark to stress this that writes a bunch of small records to a Kryo serialization stream with and without flushing: runs without flush: (count: 30, mean: 226.40, stdev: 3.929377, max: 241.00, min: 222.00) runs with flush: (count: 30, mean: 226.30, stdev: 2.084067, max: 234.00, min: 224.00) There doesn't appear to be a significant difference. The benchmark code is attached. In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form --- Key: SPARK-4550 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550 Project: Spark Issue Type: Improvement Components: Shuffle, Spark Core Affects Versions: 1.2.0 Reporter: Sandy Ryza Assignee: Sandy Ryza Priority: Critical Attachments: SPARK-4550-design-v1.pdf One drawback with sort-based shuffle compared to hash-based shuffle is that it ends up storing many more java objects in memory. If Spark could store map outputs in serialized form, it could * spill less often because the serialized form is more compact * reduce GC pressure This will only work when the serialized representations of objects are independent from each other and occupy contiguous segments of memory. E.g. when Kryo reference tracking is left on, objects may contain pointers to objects farther back in the stream, which means that the sort can't relocate objects without corrupting them. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-4550) In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14310643#comment-14310643 ] Apache Spark commented on SPARK-4550: - User 'sryza' has created a pull request for this issue: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/4450 In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form --- Key: SPARK-4550 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550 Project: Spark Issue Type: Improvement Components: Shuffle, Spark Core Affects Versions: 1.2.0 Reporter: Sandy Ryza Assignee: Sandy Ryza Priority: Critical Attachments: SPARK-4550-design-v1.pdf One drawback with sort-based shuffle compared to hash-based shuffle is that it ends up storing many more java objects in memory. If Spark could store map outputs in serialized form, it could * spill less often because the serialized form is more compact * reduce GC pressure This will only work when the serialized representations of objects are independent from each other and occupy contiguous segments of memory. E.g. when Kryo reference tracking is left on, objects may contain pointers to objects farther back in the stream, which means that the sort can't relocate objects without corrupting them. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-4550) In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14310130#comment-14310130 ] Sandy Ryza commented on SPARK-4550: --- I got a working prototype and benchmarked the ExternalSorter changes on my laptop. Each run inserts a bunch of records, each a (Int, (10-character string, Int)) tuple, into an ExternalSorter and then calls writePartitionedFile. The reported memory size is the sum of the shuffle bytes spilled (mem) metric and the remaining size of the collection after insertion has completed. Results are averaged over three runs. Keep in mind that the primary goal here is to reduce GC pressure, so any speed improvements are icing. ||Number of records||Storing as Serialized||Memory Size||Number of Spills||Insert Time(ms)||Write Time (ms)||Total Time|| |1 million|false|194923217|0|1123|3442|4566| |1 million|true|48694072|0|1315|2652|3967| |10 million|true|2050514159|3|26723|17418|44141| |10 million|false|613614392|1|16501|17151|33652| |10 million|true|10166122563|17|101831|89960|191791| |10 million|false|3067937592|5|76801|78361|155161| In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form --- Key: SPARK-4550 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550 Project: Spark Issue Type: Improvement Components: Shuffle, Spark Core Affects Versions: 1.2.0 Reporter: Sandy Ryza Assignee: Sandy Ryza Priority: Critical Attachments: SPARK-4550-design-v1.pdf One drawback with sort-based shuffle compared to hash-based shuffle is that it ends up storing many more java objects in memory. If Spark could store map outputs in serialized form, it could * spill less often because the serialized form is more compact * reduce GC pressure This will only work when the serialized representations of objects are independent from each other and occupy contiguous segments of memory. E.g. when Kryo reference tracking is left on, objects may contain pointers to objects farther back in the stream, which means that the sort can't relocate objects without corrupting them. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-4550) In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14304817#comment-14304817 ] Reynold Xin commented on SPARK-4550: Sandy, The proposal seems to assume that objects can be individually serialized efficiently. That is not the case with Kryo, and I'm not even sure if it is safe to do that in Java. Do you have any thoughts on this? In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form --- Key: SPARK-4550 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550 Project: Spark Issue Type: Improvement Components: Shuffle, Spark Core Affects Versions: 1.2.0 Reporter: Sandy Ryza Assignee: Sandy Ryza Priority: Critical Attachments: SPARK-4550-design-v1.pdf One drawback with sort-based shuffle compared to hash-based shuffle is that it ends up storing many more java objects in memory. If Spark could store map outputs in serialized form, it could * spill less often because the serialized form is more compact * reduce GC pressure This will only work when the serialized representations of objects are independent from each other and occupy contiguous segments of memory. E.g. when Kryo reference tracking is left on, objects may contain pointers to objects farther back in the stream, which means that the sort can't relocate objects without corrupting them. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-4550) In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14304864#comment-14304864 ] Sandy Ryza commented on SPARK-4550: --- I had heard rumors to that effect, so I ran some experiments and didn't find that to be the case: {code} import org.apache.spark.serializer.KryoSerializer import org.apache.spark.SparkConf import java.io.ByteArrayOutputStream import java.nio.ByteBuffer val ser1 = new KryoSerializer(new SparkConf) def serialize(objs: Array[AnyRef], ser: KryoSerializer): Array[Byte] = { val instance = ser.newInstance val baos = new ByteArrayOutputStream() val stream = instance.serializeStream(baos) objs.foreach(obj = stream.writeObject(obj)) stream.close() baos.toByteArray } val inner = (0 until 10).toArray val bytes1 = serialize(Array((1, inner), (2, inner)), ser1) val inner1 = (0 until 10).toArray val inner2 = (0 until 10).toArray val bytes2 = serialize(Array((1, inner1), (2, inner2)), ser1) val secondHalf = new Array[Byte](bytes1.size / 2) System.arraycopy(bytes1, bytes1.size / 2, secondHalf, 0, bytes1.size / 2) ser1.newInstance.deserialize[AnyRef](ByteBuffer.wrap(secondHalf)) {code} bytes1 ends up the same size as bytes2, and the last line is able to successfully reproduce the second object. Are there cases or Kryo versions I'm not thinking about? In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form --- Key: SPARK-4550 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550 Project: Spark Issue Type: Improvement Components: Shuffle, Spark Core Affects Versions: 1.2.0 Reporter: Sandy Ryza Assignee: Sandy Ryza Priority: Critical Attachments: SPARK-4550-design-v1.pdf One drawback with sort-based shuffle compared to hash-based shuffle is that it ends up storing many more java objects in memory. If Spark could store map outputs in serialized form, it could * spill less often because the serialized form is more compact * reduce GC pressure This will only work when the serialized representations of objects are independent from each other and occupy contiguous segments of memory. E.g. when Kryo reference tracking is left on, objects may contain pointers to objects farther back in the stream, which means that the sort can't relocate objects without corrupting them. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-4550) In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14304816#comment-14304816 ] Sandy Ryza commented on SPARK-4550: --- WIP branch: https://github.com/sryza/spark/tree/sandy-spark-4550 In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form --- Key: SPARK-4550 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550 Project: Spark Issue Type: Improvement Components: Shuffle, Spark Core Affects Versions: 1.2.0 Reporter: Sandy Ryza Assignee: Sandy Ryza Priority: Critical Attachments: SPARK-4550-design-v1.pdf One drawback with sort-based shuffle compared to hash-based shuffle is that it ends up storing many more java objects in memory. If Spark could store map outputs in serialized form, it could * spill less often because the serialized form is more compact * reduce GC pressure This will only work when the serialized representations of objects are independent from each other and occupy contiguous segments of memory. E.g. when Kryo reference tracking is left on, objects may contain pointers to objects farther back in the stream, which means that the sort can't relocate objects without corrupting them. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-4550) In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14306321#comment-14306321 ] Sandy Ryza commented on SPARK-4550: --- I also just tried this out using an object that's not registered with Kryo (java.awt.Color) instead of an Int array and observed things work fine as well. In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form --- Key: SPARK-4550 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550 Project: Spark Issue Type: Improvement Components: Shuffle, Spark Core Affects Versions: 1.2.0 Reporter: Sandy Ryza Assignee: Sandy Ryza Priority: Critical Attachments: SPARK-4550-design-v1.pdf One drawback with sort-based shuffle compared to hash-based shuffle is that it ends up storing many more java objects in memory. If Spark could store map outputs in serialized form, it could * spill less often because the serialized form is more compact * reduce GC pressure This will only work when the serialized representations of objects are independent from each other and occupy contiguous segments of memory. E.g. when Kryo reference tracking is left on, objects may contain pointers to objects farther back in the stream, which means that the sort can't relocate objects without corrupting them. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-4550) In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14302999#comment-14302999 ] Patrick Wendell commented on SPARK-4550: The doc alludes to having to (at some point) deal with comparing serialized objects. In the future one approach would be to restrict this only to SchemaRDD's where we can have more control over the serialized format. This is effectively what Flink and other systems do (they basically only have SchemaRDD's). In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form --- Key: SPARK-4550 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550 Project: Spark Issue Type: Improvement Components: Shuffle, Spark Core Affects Versions: 1.2.0 Reporter: Sandy Ryza Priority: Critical Attachments: SPARK-4550-design-v1.pdf One drawback with sort-based shuffle compared to hash-based shuffle is that it ends up storing many more java objects in memory. If Spark could store map outputs in serialized form, it could * spill less often because the serialized form is more compact * reduce GC pressure This will only work when the serialized representations of objects are independent from each other and occupy contiguous segments of memory. E.g. when Kryo reference tracking is left on, objects may contain pointers to objects farther back in the stream, which means that the sort can't relocate objects without corrupting them. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-4550) In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14302326#comment-14302326 ] Patrick Wendell commented on SPARK-4550: Yeah, this is a good idea. I don't see why we don't serialize these immediately. In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form --- Key: SPARK-4550 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550 Project: Spark Issue Type: Improvement Components: Shuffle, Spark Core Affects Versions: 1.2.0 Reporter: Sandy Ryza Priority: Critical Attachments: SPARK-4550-design-v1.pdf One drawback with sort-based shuffle compared to hash-based shuffle is that it ends up storing many more java objects in memory. If Spark could store map outputs in serialized form, it could * spill less often because the serialized form is more compact * reduce GC pressure This will only work when the serialized representations of objects are independent from each other and occupy contiguous segments of memory. E.g. when Kryo reference tracking is left on, objects may contain pointers to objects farther back in the stream, which means that the sort can't relocate objects without corrupting them. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-4550) In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14302303#comment-14302303 ] Sandy Ryza commented on SPARK-4550: --- Just posted a design doc. Would love to get feedback [~ilikerps] [~matei] [~jerryshao]. In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form --- Key: SPARK-4550 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550 Project: Spark Issue Type: Improvement Components: Shuffle, Spark Core Affects Versions: 1.2.0 Reporter: Sandy Ryza Priority: Critical Attachments: SPARK-4550-design-v1.pdf One drawback with sort-based shuffle compared to hash-based shuffle is that it ends up storing many more java objects in memory. If Spark could store map outputs in serialized form, it could * spill less often because the serialized form is more compact * reduce GC pressure This will only work when the serialized representations of objects are independent from each other and occupy contiguous segments of memory. E.g. when Kryo reference tracking is left on, objects may contain pointers to objects farther back in the stream, which means that the sort can't relocate objects without corrupting them. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-4550) In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14221690#comment-14221690 ] Patrick Wendell commented on SPARK-4550: Not an expert on the internals of this component, but do we need a way of ordering/comparing serialized objects for this to work? In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form --- Key: SPARK-4550 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550 Project: Spark Issue Type: Improvement Components: Shuffle, Spark Core Affects Versions: 1.2.0 Reporter: Sandy Ryza One drawback with sort-based shuffle compared to hash-based shuffle is that it ends up storing many more java objects in memory. If Spark could store map outputs in serialized form, it could * spill less often because the serialized form is more compact * reduce GC pressure This will only work when the serialized representations of objects are independent from each other and occupy contiguous segments of memory. E.g. when Kryo reference tracking is left on, objects may contain pointers to objects farther back in the stream, which means that the sort can't relocate objects without corrupting them. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-4550) In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14221710#comment-14221710 ] Sandy Ryza commented on SPARK-4550: --- We don't, though it would allow us to be much more efficient in certain situations. The way sort-based shuffle works right now, the map side only sorts by the partition, so we can store this number alongside the serialized record and not need to compare keys at all. SPARK-2926 proposes sorting by keys on the map side. For that, we'd need to deserialize keys before comparing them. There might be situations where this is slower than not serializing them in the first place. But even in those situations, we'd get more reliability by stressing GC less. It would probably be good to define raw comparators for common raw-comparable key types like ints and strings. In sort-based shuffle, store map outputs in serialized form --- Key: SPARK-4550 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-4550 Project: Spark Issue Type: Improvement Components: Shuffle, Spark Core Affects Versions: 1.2.0 Reporter: Sandy Ryza One drawback with sort-based shuffle compared to hash-based shuffle is that it ends up storing many more java objects in memory. If Spark could store map outputs in serialized form, it could * spill less often because the serialized form is more compact * reduce GC pressure This will only work when the serialized representations of objects are independent from each other and occupy contiguous segments of memory. E.g. when Kryo reference tracking is left on, objects may contain pointers to objects farther back in the stream, which means that the sort can't relocate objects without corrupting them. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org