Re: [Iup-users] Naming for proposed "Tecgraf Assistant"
On Sun, 9/6/19, Antonio Scuri wrote: It could include something in the name that indicates what it actually does. Good point. "IUP build script for Mint" immediately springs to mind. ___ Iup-users mailing list Iup-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/iup-users
Re: [Iup-users] Naming for proposed "Tecgraf Assistant"
Hi, I think the new name is fine. It could include something in the name that indicates what it actually does. Best, Scuri Em dom, 9 de jun de 2019 03:26, sur-behoffski escreveu: > G'day, > > As mentioned recently (and Antonio has seen one or two of the > foundational scripts over the years, off-list), I'm now trying > to help bring Tecgraf's IM/CD/IUP to the GNU/Linux Mint community. > > GNU/Linux Mint is based upon Ubuntu, which Tecgraf's tools > explicitly support, but I had to tweak a few things (by a > painful process of trial-and-error, in a couple of cases), to > get the tools to build and run successfully under Mint. > > I've found that an early major stumbling block was that the > "stable" releases were often quite different to the head of the > Subversion repository -- and that quite a number of things that > I found troublesome in the stable release were fixed in the live > repository. > > Changing focus from stable releases being the norm, through to > following Subversions being the norm, has been a central axis > what I've been calling various things, most recently my > "Tecgraf Assistant", with GNU/Linux Mint 18.3 being the only > initial supported platform, but where I've tried to anticipate > expansion to other platforms in a couple of places, where I > specify build commands, options, associated libraries, and > also other system-specific things like "apt-get" versus "rpm". > > Given that I'm now trying to put out a release of my toolkit > that is: > (a) Hopefully not too buggy; > (b) Is better released into the wild sooner rather > than later; and > (c) Can widen the audience for people to use and play > with the IM/CD/IUP tools under a popular GNU/Linux > environment; > > I want to add a project to GitHub. Until a couple of days > ago, I was mindlessly calling the tools the "Tecgraf Assistant", > but now realise that this implies an association with, and > probably an endorsement by, Tecgraf: Both of these implied > associations are not warranted. > > So, unless anyone has a better idea, I'm going to create a > project called "IM-CD-IUP Assistant", and try to scramble to use > this name in the documentation/comments/diagnostics etc, rather > than the name "Tecgraf Assistant" that I've been using for my > own use. > > I will try to remove all instances of the trademark "Tecgraf" > in the code, in places where I'm actually referring to the > Assistant itself, but would ask for your forgiveness and help > in correcting my misrepresentations quickly. I will still be > trying to acknowledge Tecgraf as the author of these packages, > and will strive to give them credit, by name, where appropriate. > > If anyone has any better suggestions, or, equally finds that > there are any copyright/trademark/patent properties that I am > potentially infringing, and can propose a better name, then > such suggestions would be welcomed. > > This is really a question for Antonio Scuri, as the "iup-l > mailing list public face" of all of IUP, CD and IM (despite > it being the IUP mailing list), so this request goes > especially to him. The request, and the response, however, > may help others in navigating the issues at hand, which is > why I'm posting publicly. > > (Incidentally, Scuri suggested to me, a couple of years ago, > that this list, iup-l, was effectively the main list for e-mail > traffic for all of IM, CD and IUP, which is why I'm including > all three packages here, and have done so for some time. If > my impression is wrong, then please tell me, and I will strive > to abide by the rules of the various lists.) > > cheers, > > sur-behoffski (Brenton Hoff) > programmer, Grouse Software > > > ___ > Iup-users mailing list > Iup-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/iup-users > ___ Iup-users mailing list Iup-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/iup-users
[Iup-users] Naming for proposed "Tecgraf Assistant"
G'day, As mentioned recently (and Antonio has seen one or two of the foundational scripts over the years, off-list), I'm now trying to help bring Tecgraf's IM/CD/IUP to the GNU/Linux Mint community. GNU/Linux Mint is based upon Ubuntu, which Tecgraf's tools explicitly support, but I had to tweak a few things (by a painful process of trial-and-error, in a couple of cases), to get the tools to build and run successfully under Mint. I've found that an early major stumbling block was that the "stable" releases were often quite different to the head of the Subversion repository -- and that quite a number of things that I found troublesome in the stable release were fixed in the live repository. Changing focus from stable releases being the norm, through to following Subversions being the norm, has been a central axis what I've been calling various things, most recently my "Tecgraf Assistant", with GNU/Linux Mint 18.3 being the only initial supported platform, but where I've tried to anticipate expansion to other platforms in a couple of places, where I specify build commands, options, associated libraries, and also other system-specific things like "apt-get" versus "rpm". Given that I'm now trying to put out a release of my toolkit that is: (a) Hopefully not too buggy; (b) Is better released into the wild sooner rather than later; and (c) Can widen the audience for people to use and play with the IM/CD/IUP tools under a popular GNU/Linux environment; I want to add a project to GitHub. Until a couple of days ago, I was mindlessly calling the tools the "Tecgraf Assistant", but now realise that this implies an association with, and probably an endorsement by, Tecgraf: Both of these implied associations are not warranted. So, unless anyone has a better idea, I'm going to create a project called "IM-CD-IUP Assistant", and try to scramble to use this name in the documentation/comments/diagnostics etc, rather than the name "Tecgraf Assistant" that I've been using for my own use. I will try to remove all instances of the trademark "Tecgraf" in the code, in places where I'm actually referring to the Assistant itself, but would ask for your forgiveness and help in correcting my misrepresentations quickly. I will still be trying to acknowledge Tecgraf as the author of these packages, and will strive to give them credit, by name, where appropriate. If anyone has any better suggestions, or, equally finds that there are any copyright/trademark/patent properties that I am potentially infringing, and can propose a better name, then such suggestions would be welcomed. This is really a question for Antonio Scuri, as the "iup-l mailing list public face" of all of IUP, CD and IM (despite it being the IUP mailing list), so this request goes especially to him. The request, and the response, however, may help others in navigating the issues at hand, which is why I'm posting publicly. (Incidentally, Scuri suggested to me, a couple of years ago, that this list, iup-l, was effectively the main list for e-mail traffic for all of IM, CD and IUP, which is why I'm including all three packages here, and have done so for some time. If my impression is wrong, then please tell me, and I will strive to abide by the rules of the various lists.) cheers, sur-behoffski (Brenton Hoff) programmer, Grouse Software ___ Iup-users mailing list Iup-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/iup-users
