RE: Can't display chinese title and sender name
Which RFC I can study? Thanks --- Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] But seems sendmail can handle correctly. Actually not. This: sendmail+Notes(works) Subject: is an RFC violation. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/?http://cn.surveys.yahoo.com/netlove - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Can't display chinese title and sender name
I would have a look to rfc2047, that is not in the James cvs, but that you can find using google. For example I found http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2047.html. Reading there, my understanding is that a mail client should always encode non ascii text headers (like a subject) into an encoded word: encoded-word = =? charset ? encoding ? encoded-text ?= like Outlook Express does in your examples: Subject: =?gb2312?B?1tDOxA==?= where gb2312 is the charset, and the message travels in such format. The recipient's mail client may/should at this point decode using the appropriate graphical representation. Here is a snippet from the introduction of the rfc2047 specification: snippet RFC 2045 describes a mechanism for denoting textual body parts which are coded in various character sets, as well as methods for encoding such body parts as sequences of printable US-ASCII characters. This memo describes similar techniques to allow the encoding of non-ASCII text in various portions of a RFC 822 [2] message header, in a manner which is unlikely to confuse existing message handling software. Like the encoding techniques described in RFC 2045, the techniques outlined here were designed to allow the use of non-ASCII characters in message headers in a way which is unlikely to be disturbed by the quirks of existing Internet mail handling programs. In particular, some mail relaying programs are known to (a) delete some message header fields while retaining others, (b) rearrange the order of addresses in To or Cc fields, (c) rearrange the (vertical) order of header fields, and/or (d) wrap message headers at different places than those in the original message. In addition, some mail reading programs are known to have difficulty correctly parsing message headers which, while legal according to RFC 822, make use of backslash-quoting to hide special characters such as , ,, or :, or which exploit other infrequently-used features of that specification. While it is unfortunate that these programs do not correctly interpret RFC 822 headers, to break these programs would cause severe operational problems for the Internet mail system. The extensions described in this memo therefore do not rely on little- used features of RFC 822. Instead, certain sequences of ordinary printable ASCII characters (known as encoded-words) are reserved for use as encoded data. The syntax of encoded-words is such that they are unlikely to accidentally appear as normal text in message headers. Furthermore, the characters used in encoded-words are restricted to those which do not have special meanings in the context in which the encoded-word appears. Generally, an encoded-word is a sequence of printable ASCII characters that begins with =?, ends with ?=, and has two ?s in between. It specifies a character set and an encoding method, and also includes the original text encoded as graphic ASCII characters, according to the rules for that encoding method. A mail composer that implements this specification will provide a means of inputting non-ASCII text in header fields, but will translate these fields (or appropriate portions of these fields) into encoded-words before inserting them into the message header. A mail reader that implements this specification will recognize encoded-words when they appear in certain portions of the message header. Instead of displaying the encoded-word as is, it will reverse the encoding and display the original text in the designated character set. /snippet Notes seems to ignore this; sendmail seems to accept anything, so they work together. Now, does the sentence A mail composer that implements this specification... mean that a mail composer can not implement it? Secondly, should James do something to accept a non compliant message, *if* it is not compliant? Third, is it something that arises at the level of James, or is at the level of java.mail? I don't know, and I request for comments :-) from others in this list. Vincenzo -Original Message- From: Jeff Cai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: marted 24 giugno 2003 8.24 To: James Users List Subject: RE: Can't display chinese title and sender name Which RFC I can study? Thanks --- Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] But seems sendmail can handle correctly. Actually not. This: sendmail+Notes(works) Subject: is an RFC violation. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/?http://cn.surveys.yahoo.com/netlove
Can't display chinese title and sender name
Our Domino server is using James as an outside relay, when I use Notes client to send out the mail with Chinese title and sender name, the receiver just can see ??? in title and send name. If I use Outlook Express and James as relay the receiver can see chinese in title and sender name, if I use Notes client and sendmail as relay the reciver also can see chinese in title and sender name. Any idea? _ Do You Yahoo!? http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/?http://cn.surveys.yahoo.com/netlove - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Can't display chinese title and sender name
How can I get the raw messages? Thanks. --- Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I use Outlook Express and James as relay the receiver can see chinese in title and sender name This implies that James is preserving it, at least in one set of conditions. I use Notes client and sendmail as relay the reciver also can see chinese in title and sender name. This implies that Notes client through sendmail preserves it. Our Domino server is using James as an outside relay, when I use Notes client to send out the mail with Chinese title and sender name, the receiver just can see ??? in title and send name. You know, I see that a lot with messages that have gone through ezmlm and qmail, too. If you look at the raw message content for when it works and doesn't, what is different? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/?http://cn.surveys.yahoo.com/netlove - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Can't display chinese title and sender name
How can I get the raw messages? For one thing, look at the *Stream* file if you are using the file system repositories. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Can't display chinese title and sender name
Here is part of a sample Stream file: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:02:07 +0800 Subject: ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: application/vnd.ms-powerpoint; name=.PPS Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=.PPS Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Content-Description: Microsoft PowerPoint 97 --- Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] How can I get the raw messages? For one thing, look at the *Stream* file if you are using the file system repositories. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/?http://cn.surveys.yahoo.com/netlove - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Can't display chinese title and sender name
Is that from one that works or doesn't work? You need to be able to compare. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Can't display chinese title and sender name
It's the one that doesn't work. I do some test, please see below: James+Outlook Express(works) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: test [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: =?gb2312?B?1tDOxA==?= Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:37:42 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0084_01C33A3C.A468DB90 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 James+Notes(doesn't work) From: CJF/[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:54:47 +0800 Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Disposition: inline sendmail+Notes(works) From: CJF/[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:51:10 +0800 Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Disposition: inline sendmail+Outlook Express(works) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: test [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: =?gb2312?B?1tDOxA==?= Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:56:46 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_0096_01C33A3F.4E0EA880 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 --- Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is that from one that works or doesn't work? You need to be able to compare. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/?http://cn.surveys.yahoo.com/netlove - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Can't display chinese title and sender name
James+Outlook Express(works) Subject: =?gb2312?B?1tDOxA==?= James+Notes(doesn't work) Subject: sendmail+Notes(works) Subject: sendmail+Outlook Express(works) Subject: =?gb2312?B?1tDOxA==?= From what you are showing, it *appears* that Notes is not preserving the encoding. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Can't display chinese title and sender name
So what's your suggestion? thanks --- Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] James+Outlook Express(works) Subject: =?gb2312?B?1tDOxA==?= James+Notes(doesn't work) Subject: sendmail+Notes(works) Subject: sendmail+Outlook Express(works) Subject: =?gb2312?B?1tDOxA==?= From what you are showing, it *appears* that Notes is not preserving the encoding. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/?http://cn.surveys.yahoo.com/netlove - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Can't display chinese title and sender name
But seems sendmail can handle correctly. --- Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what's your suggestion? If I am correct, I don't have one. See if Lotus has a fix. --- Noel --- Noel J. Bergman James+Outlook Express(works) Subject: =?gb2312?B?1tDOxA==?= James+Notes(doesn't work) Subject: sendmail+Notes(works) Subject: sendmail+Outlook Express(works) Subject: =?gb2312?B?1tDOxA==?= From what you are showing, it *appears* that Notes is not preserving the encoding. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? http://cn.rd.yahoo.com/mail_cn/tag/?http://cn.surveys.yahoo.com/netlove - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
