[java ee programming] Re: Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper

2009-05-04 Thread Karl


At what point did Eclipse become an Oracle product? Did I miss something?


--- On Sun, 5/3/09, Mohamed Ali mohamed.ali@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 If Oracle continues with NetBeans it will have 3 IDEs,
 JDeveloper,
 
 Eclipse and NetBeans. Seems unlikely they will support
 three IDEs. All
 
 BEA stuff is on Eclipse and Oracle keeps saying they want
 to provide
 
 choice to developers and will continue to have leadership
 role within
 
 the Eclipse community. What I would like to see is for
 JDeveloper to
 
 merge into NetBeans. ADF, BPEL, ESB, Rules etc move to
 NetBeans and it
 
 becomes their primary IDE. They keep it open and also
 continue to
 
 invest in NetBeans as an RCP. This will be good competition
 for
 
 Eclipse, and that can only  be healthy.
 
 
 
 Ali
 
 
 
 On Apr 23, 5:14 pm, Evans fiveholida...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Please guys, do use your email client's 'Reply
 All' feature to send your
 
  replies to the list.
 
 
 
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  - Original Message -
 
  From: juan.mor...@studiom2j.it
 
  To: fiveholida...@hotmail.com
 
  Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:51 PM
 
  Subject: Re: [java ee programming] Re: Future of
 Netbeans vs JDeveloper
 
 
 
  Hi,
 
  Well, even if Orcale will push JDev , I yhink Netneans
 has already a
 
  large comunity support. The worst could be , these
 community shift to
 
  Eclipse IDE. I will certainly support this last.
 
 
 
  Yoiur
 
  Juan J. Moreno
 
  senior sw dev.
 
  juan.mor...@studiom2j.it
 
 
 
  Quoting Evans fiveholida...@hotmail.com:
 
 
 
   I'm afraid, the future of Netbeans
 doesn't look too good.
 
 
 
   Oracle will now use their recent purchases to
 spend more time and   money
 
   on JDeveloper. They can't afford to keep two
 IDEs at the same   time, so
 
   expect to see it kill off Netbeans and Glassfish
 App Server.
 
 
 
   Evans
 
  http://www.javawug.org
 
 
 
     - Original Message -
 
     From: bilal malik
 
     To: priyanka2...@gmail.com
 
     Cc: java-ee-j2ee-programming-with-passion@googlegroups.com
 
     Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:50 AM
 
     Subject: [java ee programming] Re: Future of
 Netbeans vs JDeveloper
 
 
 
           No I don't think so.There is no
 match between JDeveloper and
 
   Netbeans.It doesn't matter.When Oracle has
 brought SunMicrosystem   that
 
   means Netbeans will be now supported by
 Oracle.:)
 
 
 
           --- On Tue, 21/4/09, priyanka
 desai priyanka2...@gmail.com
 
   wrote:
 
 
 
             From: priyanka desai priyanka2...@gmail.com
 
            
 Subject: [java ee programming] Future of Netbeans vs
 JDeveloper
 
             To: Java EE (J2EE)
 Programming with Passion!
 
   java-ee-j2ee-programming-with-passion@googlegroups.com
 
             Date: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009,
 9:35 PM
 
 
 
             Hi All,
 
             Now that Oracle has bought Sun
 Microsystems , what is the
 
   future for Netbeans IDE ??
 
             Would everyone switch to
 Jdeveloper ?
 
             Thanks
 
             Priyanka
 
 
 
  
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[java ee programming] Re: Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper

2009-05-03 Thread Ali

If Oracle continues with NetBeans it will have 3 IDEs, JDeveloper,
Eclipse and NetBeans. Seems unlikely they will support three IDEs. All
BEA stuff is on Eclipse and Oracle keeps saying they want to provide
choice to developers and will continue to have leadership role within
the Eclipse community. What I would like to see is for JDeveloper to
merge into NetBeans. ADF, BPEL, ESB, Rules etc move to NetBeans and it
becomes their primary IDE. They keep it open and also continue to
invest in NetBeans as an RCP. This will be good competition for
Eclipse, and that can only  be healthy.

Ali

On Apr 23, 5:14 pm, Evans fiveholida...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Please guys, do use your email client's 'Reply All' feature to send your
 replies to the list.

 --
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 - Original Message -
 From: juan.mor...@studiom2j.it
 To: fiveholida...@hotmail.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [java ee programming] Re: Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper

 Hi,
 Well, even if Orcale will push JDev , I yhink Netneans has already a
 large comunity support. The worst could be , these community shift to
 Eclipse IDE. I will certainly support this last.

 Yoiur
 Juan J. Moreno
 senior sw dev.
 juan.mor...@studiom2j.it

 Quoting Evans fiveholida...@hotmail.com:

  I'm afraid, the future of Netbeans doesn't look too good.

  Oracle will now use their recent purchases to spend more time and   money
  on JDeveloper. They can't afford to keep two IDEs at the same   time, so
  expect to see it kill off Netbeans and Glassfish App Server.

  Evans
 http://www.javawug.org

    - Original Message -
    From: bilal malik
    To: priyanka2...@gmail.com
    Cc: java-ee-j2ee-programming-with-passion@googlegroups.com
    Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:50 AM
    Subject: [java ee programming] Re: Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper

          No I don't think so.There is no match between JDeveloper and
  Netbeans.It doesn't matter.When Oracle has brought SunMicrosystem   that
  means Netbeans will be now supported by Oracle.:)

          --- On Tue, 21/4/09, priyanka desai priyanka2...@gmail.com
  wrote:

            From: priyanka desai priyanka2...@gmail.com
            Subject: [java ee programming] Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper
            To: Java EE (J2EE) Programming with Passion!
  java-ee-j2ee-programming-with-passion@googlegroups.com
            Date: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009, 9:35 PM

            Hi All,
            Now that Oracle has bought Sun Microsystems , what is the
  future for Netbeans IDE ??
            Would everyone switch to Jdeveloper ?
            Thanks
            Priyanka

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[java ee programming] Re: Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper

2009-05-03 Thread Mohamed Ali
what about J2ME in Jdeveloper and Eclipse ???

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Ali alikamranah...@gmail.com wrote:


 If Oracle continues with NetBeans it will have 3 IDEs, JDeveloper,
 Eclipse and NetBeans. Seems unlikely they will support three IDEs. All
 BEA stuff is on Eclipse and Oracle keeps saying they want to provide
 choice to developers and will continue to have leadership role within
 the Eclipse community. What I would like to see is for JDeveloper to
 merge into NetBeans. ADF, BPEL, ESB, Rules etc move to NetBeans and it
 becomes their primary IDE. They keep it open and also continue to
 invest in NetBeans as an RCP. This will be good competition for
 Eclipse, and that can only  be healthy.

 Ali

 On Apr 23, 5:14 pm, Evans fiveholida...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Please guys, do use your email client's 'Reply All' feature to send your
  replies to the list.
 
  --
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  - Original Message -
  From: juan.mor...@studiom2j.it
  To: fiveholida...@hotmail.com
  Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [java ee programming] Re: Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper
 
  Hi,
  Well, even if Orcale will push JDev , I yhink Netneans has already a
  large comunity support. The worst could be , these community shift to
  Eclipse IDE. I will certainly support this last.
 
  Yoiur
  Juan J. Moreno
  senior sw dev.
  juan.mor...@studiom2j.it
 
  Quoting Evans fiveholida...@hotmail.com:
 
   I'm afraid, the future of Netbeans doesn't look too good.
 
   Oracle will now use their recent purchases to spend more time and
 money
   on JDeveloper. They can't afford to keep two IDEs at the same   time,
 so
   expect to see it kill off Netbeans and Glassfish App Server.
 
   Evans
  http://www.javawug.org
 
 - Original Message -
 From: bilal malik
 To: priyanka2...@gmail.com
 Cc: java-ee-j2ee-programming-with-passion@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:50 AM
 Subject: [java ee programming] Re: Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper
 
   No I don't think so.There is no match between JDeveloper and
   Netbeans.It doesn't matter.When Oracle has brought SunMicrosystem
 that
   means Netbeans will be now supported by Oracle.:)
 
   --- On Tue, 21/4/09, priyanka desai priyanka2...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 
 From: priyanka desai priyanka2...@gmail.com
 Subject: [java ee programming] Future of Netbeans vs
 JDeveloper
 To: Java EE (J2EE) Programming with Passion!
   java-ee-j2ee-programming-with-passion@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009, 9:35 PM
 
 Hi All,
 Now that Oracle has bought Sun Microsystems , what is the
   future for Netbeans IDE ??
 Would everyone switch to Jdeveloper ?
 Thanks
 Priyanka
 
  
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[java ee programming] Re: Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper

2009-04-22 Thread Evans
I'm afraid, the future of Netbeans doesn't look too good. 

Oracle will now use their recent purchases to spend more time and money on 
JDeveloper. They can't afford to keep two IDEs at the same time, so expect to 
see it kill off Netbeans and Glassfish App Server.

Evans
http://www.javawug.org

  - Original Message - 
  From: bilal malik 
  To: priyanka2...@gmail.com 
  Cc: java-ee-j2ee-programming-with-passion@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:50 AM
  Subject: [java ee programming] Re: Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper


No I don't think so.There is no match between JDeveloper and 
Netbeans.It doesn't matter.When Oracle has brought SunMicrosystem that means 
Netbeans will be now supported by Oracle.:)

--- On Tue, 21/4/09, priyanka desai priyanka2...@gmail.com wrote:


  From: priyanka desai priyanka2...@gmail.com
  Subject: [java ee programming] Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper
  To: Java EE (J2EE) Programming with Passion! 
java-ee-j2ee-programming-with-passion@googlegroups.com
  Date: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009, 9:35 PM


  Hi All, 
  Now that Oracle has bought Sun Microsystems , what is the future for 
Netbeans IDE ?? 
  Would everyone switch to Jdeveloper ?
  Thanks
  Priyanka


   


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[java ee programming] Re: Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper

2009-04-22 Thread balu balu
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:05 AM, priyanka desai priyanka2...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi All,

 I think orcle doesn't change in netbeans it's going and much of the
developement to be done in future
by bala

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[java ee programming] Re: Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper

2009-04-22 Thread Batbayar Bazarragchaa
I think so. For me Netbeans is far better IDE than JDeveloper.
Also there are many Netbeans and JDeveloper users so Oracle will support
both IDEs.

JDeveloper and Netbeans have both advantages and disadvages.
Maybe Oracle tries to integrate 2 IDEs and make one better IDE which
included advantages of both IDEs.

With Oracle's and Sun's support, java technology will grow more bigger!

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:50 PM, bilal malik bam_u...@yahoo.com wrote:

 No I don't think so.There is no match between JDeveloper and Netbeans.It
 doesn't matter.When Oracle has brought SunMicrosystem that means Netbeans
 will be now supported by Oracle.:)

 --- On *Tue, 21/4/09, priyanka desai priyanka2...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: priyanka desai priyanka2...@gmail.com
 Subject: [java ee programming] Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper
 To: Java EE (J2EE) Programming with Passion! 
 java-ee-j2ee-programming-with-passion@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009, 9:35 PM

 Hi All,
 Now that Oracle has bought Sun Microsystems , what is the future for
 Netbeans IDE ??
 Would everyone switch to Jdeveloper ?
 Thanks
 Priyanka



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Re: Fw: [java ee programming] Re: Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper

2009-04-22 Thread PahBungMein Mon
I don't think so. But as for personal, I love more Eclipse :P


On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Evans fiveholida...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Please use 'Reply All' to the list.

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 - Original Message - *From:* mask...@gmail.com
 *To:* Evans fiveholida...@hotmail.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:44 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [java ee programming] Re: Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper

 I think Netbeans will keep on going and going and going. The community will
 not let that happen.


 On Apr 22, 2009 6:49am, Evans fiveholida...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  I'm afraid, the future of Netbeans doesn't look too
  good.
 
 
 
  Oracle will now use their recent purchases to spend
  more time and money on JDeveloper. They can't afford to keep two IDEs at
 the
  same time, so expect to see it kill off Netbeans and Glassfish App
  Server.
 
 
 
  Evans
 
  http://www.javawug.org
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
 
  From:
  bilal malik
 
 
  To: priyanka2...@gmail.com
 
  Cc: java-ee-j2ee-programming-with-passion@googlegroups.com
 
 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:50
  AM
 
  Subject: [java ee programming] Re: Future
  of Netbeans vs JDeveloper
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  No I don't think so.There is no match between JDeveloper
  and Netbeans.It doesn't matter.When Oracle has brought SunMicrosystem
  that means Netbeans will be now supported by Oracle.:)
 
  --- On
  Tue, 21/4/09, priyanka desai priyanka2...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
 
  From:
  priyanka desai priyanka2...@gmail.com
  Subject:
  [java ee programming] Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper
  To: Java EE
  (J2EE) Programming with Passion!
 java-ee-j2ee-programming-with-passion@googlegroups.com
  Date:
  Tuesday, 21 April, 2009, 9:35 PM
 
 
 
  Hi All,
 
  Now that Oracle has bought Sun Microsystems , what is the future
  for Netbeans IDE ??
 
  Would everyone switch to Jdeveloper ?
 
  Thanks
 
  Priyanka
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  now!
 
 
 
 
 
 


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[java ee programming] Re: Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper

2009-04-22 Thread Hantsy Bai

I hope a new Product instead of NetBeans and JDeveloper.
NetBeans has many advantages , full  Java EE support , many secripting 
language support adn many open source plugins support. But many problems 
I dislike ,for example the UI design is not united,  need more 
cofiguration options.
JDeveloper  has good  Oracle product support , if it can marry Netbeans 
other features , it is a excellent  IDE.
A nother problem is NetBeans is open source , but JDveloper is not .  I 
do not know if Jdeveloper open source it will encounter  license problem.

Evans wrote:
 I'm afraid, the future of Netbeans doesn't look too good.
  
 Oracle will now use their recent purchases to spend more time and 
 money on JDeveloper. They can't afford to keep two IDEs at the same 
 time, so expect to see it kill off Netbeans and Glassfish App Server.
  
 Evans
 http://www.javawug.org
  

 - Original Message -
 *From:* bilal malik mailto:bam_u...@yahoo.com
 *To:* priyanka2...@gmail.com mailto:priyanka2...@gmail.com
 *Cc:* java-ee-j2ee-programming-with-passion@googlegroups.com
 mailto:java-ee-j2ee-programming-with-passion@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 6:50 AM
 *Subject:* [java ee programming] Re: Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper

 No I don't think so.There is no match between JDeveloper and
 Netbeans.It doesn't matter.When Oracle has brought SunMicrosystem
 that means Netbeans will be now supported by Oracle.:)

 --- On *Tue, 21/4/09, priyanka desai /priyanka2...@gmail.com
 mailto:priyanka2...@gmail.com/* wrote:


 From: priyanka desai priyanka2...@gmail.com
 mailto:priyanka2...@gmail.com
 Subject: [java ee programming] Future of Netbeans vs JDeveloper
 To: Java EE (J2EE) Programming with Passion!
 java-ee-j2ee-programming-with-passion@googlegroups.com
 mailto:java-ee-j2ee-programming-with-passion@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009, 9:35 PM

 Hi All,
 Now that Oracle has bought Sun Microsystems , what is the
 future for Netbeans IDE ??
 Would everyone switch to Jdeveloper ?
 Thanks
 Priyanka



 
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