Re: [Fwd: Your Own Adult Paysite!!!]

1998-07-12 Thread Sabat

On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, Nelson Minar wrote:

> Sigh, I guess I have to put a :-) here. Duh, it's spam. The only way
> to shut it down on a mailing list like this is to set it so only
> members can post. I think it'd be nice if this list were set up that
> way, but there are reasons not to do it.


Honestly, what reasons are there not to make the list members-only?

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Re: Opengroup JDK port for Linux!

1998-07-12 Thread Sabat

On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, Bernd Kreimeier wrote:

> Nelson Minar writes:

>  > The big news is it has native threads. You can't download the binaries
>  > yet, but they said they'll make them available soon under a
>  > non-commercial use license. 
> 
> I exchanged e-mail with Vania Joloboff @ OpenGroup. The release
> is delayed for a month, priorities. They do not even have the
> time to change the web pages right now, which announce the
> release for July. Sigh. I also asked about releasing sources
> diffs, as Steve Byrne does, have yet to get an answer.


What I don't really get is how they can put limitations on the release --
for non-commercial use only. Since they don't own the source code or the
product, how could they have a let to stand on? (A port is a derivative
work, and is technically owned by the original copyright holder, Sun.)

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Re: [Fwd: Your Own Adult Paysite!!!]

1998-07-12 Thread Bruce J. Carter


On 12-Jul-98 Sabat wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, Nelson Minar wrote:
> 
>> Sigh, I guess I have to put a :-) here. Duh, it's spam. The only way
>> to shut it down on a mailing list like this is to set it so only
>> members can post. I think it'd be nice if this list were set up that
>> way, but there are reasons not to do it.
> 
> 
> Honestly, what reasons are there not to make the list members-only?
> 

I agree totally!!! For those that do not want to be on the list let them
go to the archives and read the messages you pass back and forth via this
list. Spam does not have a place in my mailbox, nor do I have the time
to read it, or desire to receive it. I joined this list to give and receive
info on java for linux.

I for one vote to make it a members only list.

Just my $0.02 worth.


Cheers,

Bruce...
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RE: Opengroup JDK port for Linux!

1998-07-12 Thread Bruce J. Carter


On 11-Jul-98 Bernd Kreimeier wrote:
> Nelson Minar writes:
>  > Reading the Linux Weekly News this week, I just found a mention of a
>  > port of the JDK 1.1.6 for Linux from the OpenGroup in Grenoble. The
> URL
>  > is http://www.gr.opengroup.org/java/jdk/linux/
>  > 
>  > The big news is it has native threads. You can't download the
> binaries
>  > yet, but they said they'll make them available soon under a
>  > non-commercial use license. 
>  > 
>  > They've also got a version of gdb that debugs threads in Linux.
> 
> And a glibc-2.0.7-14 IIRC, with debug multithread supporet.
> Have yet to install it.
> 
> I exchanged e-mail with Vania Joloboff @ OpenGroup. The release
> is delayed for a month, priorities. They do not even have the
> time to change the web pages right now, which announce the
> release for July. Sigh. I also asked about releasing sources
> diffs, as Steve Byrne does, have yet to get an answer.
> 
> The URL and the delay might be worth a FAQ update.
> 
> 
> b.

I also sent a mail message asking for the diffs so we could make it
available on all the linux platforms. I use both RH 5.x on my Intel box,
and MkLunix on my PPC. And if they can make the port team's efforts easier
in porting the JDK to linuxthreads for native threads port I am all for
it. This is not an easy task. I am one of the folks working on this and it
is slow going. There is a big difference between the threads Sun uses and
linuxthreads which are in reality pthreads.

I too have not heard back from them, as soon as I do I will share the
message with the group!

Cheers,

Bruce...

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Re: Opengroup JDK port for Linux!

1998-07-12 Thread Bruce J. Carter


On 12-Jul-98 Sabat wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, Bernd Kreimeier wrote:
> 
>> Nelson Minar writes:
> 
>>  > The big news is it has native threads. You can't download the
>>  > binaries
>>  > yet, but they said they'll make them available soon under a
>>  > non-commercial use license. 
>> 
>> I exchanged e-mail with Vania Joloboff @ OpenGroup. The release
>> is delayed for a month, priorities. They do not even have the
>> time to change the web pages right now, which announce the
>> release for July. Sigh. I also asked about releasing sources
>> diffs, as Steve Byrne does, have yet to get an answer.
> 
> 
> What I don't really get is how they can put limitations on the release
> --
> for non-commercial use only. Since they don't own the source code or the
> product, how could they have a let to stand on? (A port is a derivative
> work, and is technically owned by the original copyright holder, Sun.)
> 

Not sure about that, I do know that those of us working on the JDK port
team all had to sign a non-commercial license agreement. I would assume
they may have done the same thing if they did not get the source as a
commercial for resale organization. Which brings up an interesting
point... They may not be able to release it due to shipment of commercial
Linux product with the JDK/JRE/RT attached to it. Are the members of the
port team liable if the JDK we produce gets shipped with a commercial
product???

Some food for thought

Cheers,

Bruce...

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Re: very obscure bug in JDK1.1.6

1998-07-12 Thread Maksim Lin

THis is a known bug (I can confirm it on my sys) and there was a post a
little while back from Stephen Wynne about a fix being done but not yet
incorporated into the release.

BTW, does anyone know if this bug fix will be available soon, as this is
a rather annoying bug.

Thanks,
Maksim.

Bengt Kleberg wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I have JDK1.1.6v2 (glibc) from Blackdown on a Linux (RedHat5.1) x86 computer.
> 
> When doing the Together/J 2.0 (Whiteboard Edition, see http://www.oi.com) tutorial I 
>find
> that it is impossible to enter caps (LIKE THIS) in the source editor (Text pane).
> This inability includes all shifted characters, like (, ), { and }. Object 
>International claims
> that this bug i impossible to reproduce on a Windows JDK.
> 
> I have tried Sun's JDK1.1.6 on Solaris2.6 x86 (with the neccessary patch). Exactly
> the same problem
> 
> Unfortunatly I have been unable to reproduce the error with a simple test case.
> So this is more of a FYI, than a real bug report.
> 
> Best Wishes, Bengt

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Swinburne University of Technology

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Opengroup JDK port for Linux!

1998-07-12 Thread Bernd Kreimeier

Nelson Minar writes:
 > Reading the Linux Weekly News this week, I just found a mention of a
 > port of the JDK 1.1.6 for Linux from the OpenGroup in Grenoble. The URL
 > is http://www.gr.opengroup.org/java/jdk/linux/
 > 
 > The big news is it has native threads. You can't download the binaries
 > yet, but they said they'll make them available soon under a
 > non-commercial use license. 
 > 
 > They've also got a version of gdb that debugs threads in Linux.

And a glibc-2.0.7-14 IIRC, with debug multithread supporet.
Have yet to install it.

I exchanged e-mail with Vania Joloboff @ OpenGroup. The release
is delayed for a month, priorities. They do not even have the
time to change the web pages right now, which announce the
release for July. Sigh. I also asked about releasing sources
diffs, as Steve Byrne does, have yet to get an answer.

The URL and the delay might be worth a FAQ update.


b.



 



Text font & color when setEditable(false)

1998-07-12 Thread Glenn Valenta

I'm kind-a new to Java so please bear with me...

Is there a way to stop the font and color from changing
when one sets an java.awt.Component to non-editable?

I'm using a frame in an application and when I add a button
that is setEditable(false), the font and color changes to
a shaded sort of style.

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RE: java map engines

1998-07-12 Thread Peter Harris

Craig,

If you are still interested, there is a java graph package developed by a
guy at USQ called graph.tar.gz.  He no longer seems interested in
supporting it and it has a few bugs, most of which I have fixed.  In
addition, I have also added map plotting to the package (firstly for simple
linear projections and more recently for any general projection you care to
develop a MapProjection sub class for).

If you want it, send me an e-mail and I'll forward the original package (it
may be hard to find) and the full source including my mods.  There are a
couple of data files you can adapt to get the basic map database - the CIA
Database and The World Digitised.

Peter


| -Original Message-
| From: B. Craig Taverner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: Java Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Date: Thursday, July 09, 1998 2:48 PM
| Subject: java map engines
|
|
| Hi,
|
| Does anyone know of any java based generic map toolkits written in pure
| java (so I can run on linux, solaris and win32)?  Something that will
| allow me to easily add a map (vector &| bitmap) into my applications with
| the ability to place custom objects/components on the map.
| I've not looked too closely at java2D, but have been given the impression
| that it's too graphics/presentation orientated, and not nearly enough map
| specific features.
|
| Cheers, Craig
|
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