Sun vs microsoft? RE:We Won!

[Glenn Valenta]

>Hey, did everyone notice that Sun won it's java suit against microsoft 
>today?  The judge granted us an injunction and Microsoft has to start
>shipping a Java implementation that complies with the test suites or
>quit shipping windows in 90 days.
>
>Woo hoo, no wonder our stock went up almost $4 today!!!

Is it true?  

if so...
Vbeers for everybody!!!

-- 
Glenn Valenta   Engineering @ http://www.coloradostudios.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://ouray.cudenver.edu/~gavalent/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Personal mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Work mail

Re: Sun vs microsoft? RE:We Won!

[Josin Etienne]

On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Glenn Valenta wrote:

> >Hey, did everyone notice that Sun won it's java suit against microsoft 
> >today?  The judge granted us an injunction and Microsoft has to start
> >shipping a Java implementation that complies with the test suites or
> >quit shipping windows in 90 days.
> >
> >Woo hoo, no wonder our stock went up almost $4 today!!!
> 
> Is it true?  
> 
> if so...
> Vbeers for everybody!!!

  if so, it means that there can indeed be justice in cyberland after all.

  may the evil doers suffer from gas...

_
In Heaven there will be no DOS, no Intel, and above all, no Bill.

Re: Two questions on Swing:

[peter . pilgrim]

1) There is a problem with XFree86 that prevents top level accelerators 
being installed. I believe this with Metrolink X server with any problem. 
Mind you I have the exact same problem on 
sparc-sun-solaris-2.5.1-cde-motif1.2-jdk1.1.6-swing-1.1-beta-2

2) I think you can override the installed PLAF (pluggable look and feel) 
settings, but it means search through the source code in the 
`com.sun.swing.plaf.basic.BasicScrollBarUI' class. I think you must override the
defaults that are loaded in the UIManager properties.

UIManager.put("scroll.bar.foreground", Color.red );



It is stupid that you can't customise externally the components. 
Give me X resources any day. Perhaps that how JavaSoft should have coded it.
Maybe it needs a :


public class Resource { String name, Object value }

Resource resources[] = {
{ "troughArea.foreground", Color.red },
{ "troughArea.arrowColour", Color.blue },
} 


UIApplicationsResources.registerResources( JScrollBar.getUI().getClass(), 
resources );

...

// Read French Canadian property bundle file MyAppBundle_fr_ca.properties

ResourceBundle bundle=ResourceBundle.getBundle( "MyAppBundle" )
UIApplicationsResources.mergeBundle( "MyApplication", bundle )

Something like that. Dreaming ...

__ Reply Separator _
Subject: Two questions on Swing:
Author:  stevecoh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) at lon-mime
Date:18/11/98 02:41


Here are two questions I've had on swing.  One pertains to java-linux, 
the other doesn't, but you guys have been very helpful to me so I 
thought I'd ask both.
 
1)  Accessing top level menus via keyboard in Swing.  Using Swing 1.0.3 
and jdk 1.1.6.  I can attach keystrokes to menu items via setMnemonic 
and this works.  When I attach keystrokes via setMnemonic() to top level 
JMenu, however, the keystroke doesn't work, even though the mnemonicized 
keystroke does appear in the Menu onscreen.  That's under redhat 5.0.
If I take the program and run it on Win95 then the key stroke access 
does work.  What's going on here?
 
2)  Is there any way to change the colors of the arrow buttons and thumb 
in a JScrollBar? I can change everything but that and with the colors 
I've chosen, they look really stupid.  I realize that this probably 
violates the whole look and feel idea which is so prevalent in Swing, but 
there ought to be some way to get at these things.

Re: Sun vs microsoft? RE:We Won!

[Azazel]

> 
> On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Glenn Valenta wrote:
> 
> > >Hey, did everyone notice that Sun won it's java suit against microsoft
> > >today?  The judge granted us an injunction and Microsoft has to start
> > >shipping a Java implementation that complies with the test suites or
> > >quit shipping windows in 90 days.
> > >
> > >Woo hoo, no wonder our stock went up almost $4 today!!!
> >
> > Is it true?
> >
> > if so...
> > Vbeers for everybody!!!
> 
>   if so, it means that there can indeed be justice in cyberland after all.
> 
>   may the evil doers suffer from gas...


It's a step in the right direction.  M$ has 90 days to fix things.
Whether they will and whether they'll find a way of sliming out of
this obligation is an open question.  Call me paranoid but until I
see M$ in pieces and/or Gates destitute and begging in the gutter
I will not rest easy.  Apart from the matter of appeals, this is
only a temporary injunction and not a final decision:  the case
has not gone to trial.

Az.

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Re: Sun vs microsoft? RE:We Won!

[sgee]

It's about time someone stood up to those cronies

I love the statement made by Maritez
"The option of not supporting Java is one that is open to us"

This is one statement I would love to see happen!!!
I would love to see how much Microsoft reeaaayyy  doesn't need Java.

Steve Gee
Developer/Analyst

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.maxor.com

...do or do not, there is no tryYoda

Re: Sun vs microsoft? RE:We Won!

[bryan vold]

Yup.

http://www.sun.com/announcement/ruling.html;$sessionid$TF4A53AACEOWVAMUVFZE4GUBSSUXEUDO

-Bryan

On Wed, Nov 18, 1998 at 01:01:31AM -0700, Glenn Valenta wrote:
> >Hey, did everyone notice that Sun won it's java suit against microsoft 
> >today?  The judge granted us an injunction and Microsoft has to start
> >shipping a Java implementation that complies with the test suites or
> >quit shipping windows in 90 days.
> >
> >Woo hoo, no wonder our stock went up almost $4 today!!!
> 
> Is it true?  
> 
> if so...
> Vbeers for everybody!!!
> 
> -- 
> Glenn Valenta   Engineering @ http://www.coloradostudios.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://ouray.cudenver.edu/~gavalent/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Personal mail
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work mail
> 

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[ANNOUNCE] New Release Xenon-SQL V2.2.9.8

[peter . pilgrim]

SOFTWARE RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT
===

Xenonsoft, South London, England is very pleased to announce the
availability of:


Xenon-SQL, the java based interactive SQL Editor, version 2.2.9.
 The Personal End User Edition. 


This software allows you use connect to relational database like MySql,
Sybase, and Oracle and submit SQL queries and commands to the target
databases. In order for `Xenon-SQL' to connect to a database you __MUST__
have a suitable JDBC (Java Database Connectivity) driver specifically for
your database. Most commercial database suppliers have a supplied (or
contributed) JDBC driver around somewhere, so surf the Internet to find it!


The Xenon-SQL software can be obtain from the FTP server:

   `ftp://ftp.demon.net/pub/java'

or as a last resort `http://www.xenonsoft.demon.co.uk/software.html'.

The requires the Java Development Kit minimum version 1.1.5 and Swing also
known as the Java Foundation Classes miminum version 1.2-Beta 2. These are
available from JavaSoft's web site: `http://java.sun.com/products/'

*** WARNING ***: The software will __NOT__ work with JFC 1.2-Beta 3 because
this release features the new stable package name `javax.swing.*'. The
current version of the software expects to find Swing under the package
name `com.sun.java.swing.*' as in the JFC 1.2-Beta 2 release.

*** NOTE ***: In the near-future, `Xenon-SQL' will be upgraded to use the
new JFC/Swing package names.


The software was developed on a Linuxed/PC with Blackdown's 1.1.6v3 port of
the JDK `http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux.html'


SunSoft[tm] maintains a list of JDBC drivers from a number of third party
vendors on it web pages See the following URL for a list of JDBC drivers
provided:

http://java.sun.com:80/products/jdbc/jdbc.drivers.html

Please read the license file `LICENSE*'. For installation instructions read
the `INSTALL' file.




NEW FEATURES
=

o  Xenon-SQL is now MULTI-THREADED! Each editor frame can now execute
   separate SQL commands as a background task. The application is no longer
   blocked on the AWT event queue. No more hours glasses or watches. A
   background command thread is started with the [Execute] button. The
   thread can be halted by the new [Stop] image button. I did a test to
   prove the concept worked by forcing the thread to sleep 10.0 seconds
   whilst using two editor frames.

o  Since Xenon-SQL is now multithreaded. Two new components have been
   created and introduced, namely the `JFlashProgressPanelBar' and
   `JStatusBar'.  The flash progress bar animates when SQL command is
   executed as a background task. The status bar is container for the new
   flash progress bar and a message label, where `Xenon-SQL' writes generic
   messages.

o  Xenon-SQL now uses the `JFileChooser' component, because the API is more
   stable. SQL command history can save in `native' format and portable
   `ascii' text format. The native format is a java object serialisation,
   and the text format allows you to edit and change the entire SQL command
   history in an external editor, such as GNU Emacs. Save your some changes
   and reload the history back into Xenon SQL.

o  Meta Data Query Tree Dialog displays extra tree nodes in addition to
   representing all catalogues in the database. The new tree nodes are
   primary keys, imported key, exported keys, database types, and index
   information. There new node have some nice icons to go with them.

o  `Strategies' to calculate the best column width in a table, and therefore
   display a visually pleasantly table.

o  `Pluggable Look And Feel' overdue support for a standard Swing/JFC
   feature. Yes. `Xenon-SQL' can now switch between "look and feels".

o  `SliderDials' to control the row height and the intercell spacing in the
   tables. These slider dials behave look and behave similar to the leading
   edge dials as seen in the Silicon Graphics[tm] `Inventor' 3D Graphics
   application.

o  A user request to load up multiple JDBC drivers at start-up time has been
   added. The property in the `~/.xsql_login' file has been changed to
   allow this. The property is now called `Xsql.jdbc.driverList'.

o  More internationalisation has been added to fully support the above new
   features.




OLD FEATURES 2.1.7p01
===





The software has been tested:

+  against MySQL[tm] compiled on Linux with the
   `twz1.jdbc.mysql.jdbcMysqlDriver' JDBC driver.


+  against Sybase[tm] SQL Server/11.03 with the
   `connect.syabse.SybaseDriver 3.0' JDBC driver.






You can download the Java Foundation Classes from JavaSoft:

http://java.sun.com/products/jfc

You can find out the lastest information about Swing from JavaSoft's
Web site, The Swing Connection:

http://java.sun.com/products/jfc/tsc/





Enjoy baby bop.


Peter A. Pilgrim
Member of the Association of C/C++ User group UK. 
Thu Sep 10 15:16:12 BST 1998

RMI binding bug

[Douglas T. Brown]

Can someone help me out, here?  I'm sure that some of you have solved this
problem long ago. . .  In fact, there is one thread in the Java-Linux archives
that deals
with this.  I tried putting my machine as the first line in /etc/hosts as suggested:

xxx.xxx.x.2 MyHostName MyHostName.mydomain.com
127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain

but that didn't work.

Here's the story:

I'm relatively new to Linux and Java and I'm trying to figure out how to get
past the known bug in RMI bind/rebind that throws an AccessException in, as
Sun puts it, "some network configurations."

I've read (in Thinking in Java) that this can be solved by having an open PPP
connection, but I don't have PPP set up on my Linux box.

My ethernet network has thus far run fine in terms of successfully running FTP
and HTTP servers, and consists of:

Linux box:
MkLinux DR3 on a Mac G3 266 MHz minitower
IP address of xxx.xxx.x.2
default gateway of xxx.xxx.x.1
JDK 1.1.6 v5

No nameserver is set up

A Mac PowerBook

An ethernet patch cable running between the two machines.


Here's the code I'm trying to run, plain vanilla taken straight out of the
Java.Sun site example:

**
1:  The Remote Interface HelloInt

import java.rmi.*;

public interface HelloInt extends Remote {
public String sayHello () throws java.rmi.RemoteException;
}

**
2:  The main class HelloImpl

import java.rmi.*;
import java.rmi.server.*;
import java.net.*;

public class HelloImpl extends UnicastRemoteObject implements HelloInt {

public String name;

public HelloImpl (String s) throws RemoteException {
super();
name = s;
}

public String sayHello() throws RemoteException {
return "Hello World!";
}

public static void main (String args []) {

System.setSecurityManager (new RMISecurityManager());

try {
HelloImpl h = new HelloImpl ("HelloServer");
System.out.println ("Attempting to rebind . . .");
Naming.rebind ("//localhost/HelloServer", h);
System.out.println ("Hello Server bound . . .");
}
catch (RemoteException re) {
System.out.println ("RemoteException in HelloImpl.main:  " +   
 re.getMessage());
re.printStackTrace();
}
catch (MalformedURLException e) {
System.out.println ("MalformedURLException in HelloImpl.main:  
" + e.getMessage());
e.printStackTrace();
}

}
}

Everything compiles. I start up rmiregistry. I run rmic on HelloImpl.I run
HelloImpl and it constructs the object 'h', but then I get the AccessException.

I've tried the following arg's for rebind to no avail:
("//localhost/HelloServer", h)
("//127.0.0.1/HelloServer", h)
("//xxx.xxx.x.2/HelloServer", h)
("//MyHostName/HelloServer", h)
("HelloServer", h)

The Sun documentation states:  "In some DHCP and PPP network configurations
the assigned IP address and hostname do not match the name assigned to the
node.  A workaround is to statically and explicitly assign the IP address for
the node."  Does that work, and how would I do that?

Do I actually need to have a PPP connection up and running to get this to run???

Thanks,

-DTB

Re: RMI binding bug

[Matt Welsh]

The issue here is that the RMI registy is checking that the client's hostname
matches the local hostname on bind() and rebind() calls. In addition the 
IP addresses are checked for a match. 

The logic is:

InetAddress localhost = InetAddress.getLocalHost();

Class class = Class.forName(new 
StringBuffer(String.valueOf(RemoteRef.packagePrefix)).append(".UnicastServerRef").toString());
ServerRef serverRef = (ServerRef)class.newInstance();
String clienthost = serverRef.getClientHost();

InetAddress inetAddress = InetAddress.getByName(clienthost);
if (!inetAddress.equals(localhost) && 
!clienthost.equals(localhost.getHostName()))
  throw new AccessException(string1 + " " + inetAddress + " != " + localhost);

So if the hostname *and* the IP address don't match, an exception is thrown.

A way to test what's going on here would be to write your own simple RMI
service and see what the various values of localhost, clienthost, and their
various 'getHostName()' and 'getByName()' values are. 

mdw

Re: RMI binding bug

[Douglas T. Brown]

Carl,

You wrote:


Is it not 

"rmi://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/name" ?? 


First, let me thank you for your quick response.

Second, let me say, simply:  It is. :-)

I appreciate your help, and now I'll just quietly slip back under the nearest rock!

Thanks again,

-DTB

Chinese

[Daniel Eriksson]

I would like to be able to display some Chinese characters. Does any one
know how to set up the environment to be able to do this. I have read the
Java-Linux faq, but it only mentions Japanese, of the CJK languages.

I want to use Chinese in an application.

(I'm able to read Chiness in Netscape, cxterm and cnprint also work
fine.)

Thank you in advance for your help!
Daniel

---
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.abc.se/~m9071/

Alpha JDK libawt.so invalid ELF header error

[Brian W. Johanson]

This is what I get when I try to run Instant Messenger
Any suggestions?


Running AOL Instant Messenger (TM) version 1.1.19 for Java built 03/24/98,
freeMem 849248 totalMem 1048560, alpha, Linux, 2.0.33, Sun Microsystems
Inc., ported by Randy Chapman and Steve Byrne & Uncle George,
gat:11/03/98-18:14, 45.3, Wed Nov 18 15:42:42 EST 1998
java.lang.NullPointerException
at uiutil.SuperLayout.setInput(SuperLayout.java:376)
at uiutil.SuperLayout.loadLayout(SuperLayout.java:366)
at main.LoginUI.(LoginUI.java:84)
at main.LoginCore.(LoginCore.java:146)
at main.Oscar.main(Oscar.java:276)
UU: invalid ELF header (libawt.so)
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no awt in shared library path
at java.lang.Runtime.loadLibrary(Runtime.java)
at java.lang.System.loadLibrary(System.java)
at
at java.awt.Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit(Toolkit.java:394)
at java.awt.Window.getToolkit(Window.java:230)
at java.awt.Frame.addNotify(Frame.java:203)
at main.LoginUI.addNotify(LoginUI.java:189)
at java.awt.Window.pack(Window.java:123)
at main.LoginUI.(LoginUI.java:105)
at main.LoginCore.(LoginCore.java:146)
at main.Oscar.main(Oscar.java:276)  

RE: RMI binding bug

[dmarsh]

Just a pointer:

for /etc/hosts (or the equiv in NT (windir)\system32\drivers\etc\hosts)
(assume your I/F IP is 10.12.14.16)

---
127.0.0.1   localhost
10.12.14.16 thehost.mydomain.org   mypc
---

the order is somewhat important
(ip address) (FQDN) (and short or aliases here)

If you don't have a true / valid DNS for (an assumed) you fixed IP address
then and nslookup will fail.

i.e.: (I know it's a bad use of letters with M$ and all. hee hee ;) )

% nslookup 
...
> set server (ip.address.of.server <- Not your own machine)
> set type=any
> 16.14.12.10.in-addr.arpa.
  (some error message saying doesn't exist)
   *** DNS.SERVER.whereever.org can't find 16.14.12.10.in-addr.arpa.:
Non-existent host/domain
> exit
%

You will also need to update your /etc/HOSTNAME to match your full name (not
just hostname)

/etc/HOSTNAME---
thehost.mydomain.org
end of /etc/HOSTNAME

You also need to update the IP portion of your OS with the correct host name
% /bin/hostname thehost

You may also need to stop and restart certain services, for example
sendmail: (quick and dirty)
% ps aux | grep sendmail
root73  0.0   5.2 . sendmail: accepting connections
root .. grep sendmail
% kill -9 73
% /usr/sbin/sendmail -bd -q15m


If you don't have a FQDN, make one up (I jokingly for example: nodomain.org)
and have a host of myhost.nodomain.org.


As for the Java part I cannot help you there

-Original Message-
From: Douglas T. Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 10:56 AM
To: Java-Linux Mail List
Subject: RMI binding bug


Can someone help me out, here?  I'm sure that some of you have solved this
problem long ago. . .  In fact, there is one thread in the Java-Linux
archives
that deals
with this.  I tried putting my machine as the first line in /etc/hosts as
suggested:

xxx.xxx.x.2 MyHostName MyHostName.mydomain.com
127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain

but that didn't work.

Re: JDK1.1.7v1a And AfterStep

[Christian Posse]

Armen Yampolsky wrote:

> The x86 jdk1.1.7v1a, when used with AfterStep 1.5, behaves incorrectly
> when setting com.sun.java.swing.JDialog's setResizeable(false) on my
> system. If anyone has AfterStep, could you confirm/deny? The symptom is
> a huge grey JDialog. Calling an explicit setSize() fixes the problem,
> but this is undesired, as a simple pack() should display the correctly
> sized window.

I have the same problem (both under Linux 2.0.34 /Red Hat 5.1, and Linux
2.0.35 / Red Hat 5.2,
with  AfterStep 1.4.3 or 1.5, and with jdk1.1.6v5 or jdk1.1.7v1a, using
green or native flags, and
glibc).

To avoid the setSize() solution, I prefer the dirty solution to switch to
the less appealing FVWM(2) or WindowMaker when testing the application that
uses a JDialog with setResizeable(false)..it works
fine under those window managers.

Christian
Talaria Inc.
Seattle

>

>
>
> My system: Linux 2.0.34 (from RedHat 5.1), Steve Byrne's jdk117v1a, with
> either THREADS_FLAG native or not. Glibc versions all.
>
> Cheers,
> -A.
>
> --
> Armen Yampolsky
> Axiom Software Labs
> New York

linux

[Mehrdad]

Hi,

I have an intel-based machine with Linux(slackware 3.3)  installed on a
partition of a scsi drive.  I am trying to download the latest version
of JDK(glibc) for linux.   I have two questions:

1. When I get to the mirror site
ftp://ce.usu.edu/pub/mirror/linux/JDK/JDK-1.1.7/i386/glibc/v1a/
If you click on several entries such as:
i18n_1.1.7-v1a-glibc-x86.tar.bz2
it tries to read the file in binary format.  How are you supposed to
download these files.

2. My internet connnection is on win95.   Once I am done with
downloading, I will need to transfer the files to my Linux partition.
Is that gonna cause problems?

Thanks very much for your help

Mehrdad

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Re: linux

[Matola, Tod]

Way off topic...but if you right click the link, then do a "Sava as..."
you should be fine.

As to win95, it will do some filename adjustment (mangle), but rename it
under Linux
and the data will be fiine.

Cheers Tod...


Mehrdad wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have an intel-based machine with Linux(slackware 3.3)  installed on a
> partition of a scsi drive.  I am trying to download the latest version
> of JDK(glibc) for linux.   I have two questions:
>
> 1. When I get to the mirror site
> ftp://ce.usu.edu/pub/mirror/linux/JDK/JDK-1.1.7/i386/glibc/v1a/
> If you click on several entries such as:
> i18n_1.1.7-v1a-glibc-x86.tar.bz2
> it tries to read the file in binary format.  How are you supposed to
> download these files.
>
> 2. My internet connnection is on win95.   Once I am done with
> downloading, I will need to transfer the files to my Linux partition.
> Is that gonna cause problems?
>
> Thanks very much for your help
>
> Mehrdad

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My Audio Problem was a permission issue: can't setuid .java_wrapper

[Chip Grandits]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
> 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (and others)  were very helpful Much Thanks.

I would like to post this quick summary of what I have learned:

I had been having problems getting audio to work with java-linux using the
appletviewer
The audio device that java-linux looks for is in fact
/dev/audio

The problem was related to my attempt to setuid to appletviewer
This is really a symbolic link to .java_wrapper
However .java_wrapper is a shell script, and setuid does NOT work on scripts.
(I here there are exceptions for perl?)

For now I've taken the quick and dirty 'Number of the Beast' solution
chmod 666 /dev/audio

I assume the actual files which should be setuid are tucked away in (for 1.1.6
at least)
$JAVA-HOME/jdk1.1.6/bin/$ARCH/green_threads
(for me $JAVA-HOME is /usr/local and $ARCH is i586)

I'm probably exceptionally foolish and ignorant for someone attempting to
administer
his own unix system but perhaps a small section could be added to the FAQ about
permission.

For now, however, all as well and I can concentrate on my work.
Thanks Again,
Chip Grandits

running java setuid root

[Stewart Allen]

 I'm having tremendous difficulty finding a flexible way to run
 setuid root java programs. My unique constraint is that I cannot
 add the java lib directory to /etc/ld.so.conf because I have many
 different JVM versions installed. It appears that when the euid is
 0, it ignores LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Platform: i686 RedHat Linux 5.2.

 Help!

Re: My Audio Problem was a permission issue: can't setuid .java_wrapper

[Michael Sinz]

On Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:44:06 -0700, Chip Grandits wrote:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
>> 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (and others)  were very helpful Much Thanks.
>
>I would like to post this quick summary of what I have learned:

[...]

>The problem was related to my attempt to setuid to appletviewer
>This is really a symbolic link to .java_wrapper
>However .java_wrapper is a shell script, and setuid does NOT work on scripts.
>(I here there are exceptions for perl?)
>
>For now I've taken the quick and dirty 'Number of the Beast' solution
>chmod 666 /dev/audio

If you really are worried about audio device access, you can make a
group and make /dev/audio (and what it links to) 660 and part of that
group.  Then you make all of the user accounts that can play audio part
of that group and you have it.

>I assume the actual files which should be setuid are tucked away in (for 1.1.6
>at least)
>$JAVA-HOME/jdk1.1.6/bin/$ARCH/green_threads
>(for me $JAVA-HOME is /usr/local and $ARCH is i586)

Ahh, but suid does not magically make the program run as such unless
it also makes the calls to do so.  Plus, this would be a rather foolish
thing to do since it would mean that all Java programs now are running
as root just so that they can have access to audio.

(Burn down the barn because you don't like the mouse in it...)

Using groups is a much better way (and audio really is not that
critical of a system resource that one would worry about something
getting access to it - having all Java programs running as root would
be...)


Michael Sinz -- Director of Research & Development, NextBus Inc.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.nextbus.com
My place on the web ---> http://www.users.fast.net/~michael_sinz

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