jdk1.2 web site

1999-02-19 Thread Patrick Ohnewein

I know everybody asks when the jdk1.2 for linux will be released.
This mail is not one of them.

There was a post from a blackdown member that he wants to put a site
about the status of the jdk, now I am waiting hard for it.
Could you put up the site, even if it doesn't contain more than nothing,
would like to see it otherwise I have to search for it in the blackdown
site every day!

Thanks
P@

-- 
-
Save software competition, use Linux and Java!
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Java under Linux

1999-02-19 Thread K Hothiappan

Dear Sir,
We could not down load the JDK and 'URL not found' message is displayed
on the screen. Could give helph to get the JDK.
Thanks for helph

Hothiappan K



Wierd results using binfmt_misc

1999-02-19 Thread Steve Cohen

I have recently installed binfmt_misc on my linux system using kernel
2.2.1.
I have this game application I've written.  It lives in its own package
in its own directory one level down from ./usr/local/java.
Following the suggestions of people here, I have gotten into the habit
of NOT defining classpath variables but using the -classpath switches in

javac and java.  Therefore I had to rewrite the "javawrapper" that comes

as a sample with the binfmt_misc documentation.

Now for the wierd part.  It all works just fine when I am logged in as
root.  But when logged in as myself, java reports that it can't find my
class.  What could cause this?  I have loaded up my javawrapper script
with a bunch of echo statements and am convinced that it produces the
same output under both logins.  Neither as root nor as myself do I have
a CLASSPATH variable defined.  So what else could it be?

Or is it just a bad idea to use a package member class as the class
holding main()?





Re: -prof:file option usage?

1999-02-19 Thread SHUDO Kazuyuki

Joseph H. Buehler wrote:

> What's the trick to getting -prof to output useful information?  I
> never see any of my own classes in the output.  Maybe this is because
> I am using TYA and something is not implemented?

Yes, TYA and binary forms of shuJIT don't let -prof option work.

You can compile shuJIT which support -prof.
Add -DENABLE_PROFILING to CDEBUGFLAGS or CFLAGS line in GNUmakefile
and make it.

Kazuyuki SHUDO  Happy Hacking!
  Muraoka Lab., Grad. School of Sci. & Eng., Waseda Univ.



Re: jdk 1.1.7.1a / tya 1.2v3 performance?

1999-02-19 Thread SHUDO Kazuyuki

David Craig wrote:

> shuJIT doesn't appear to be mentioned very often in performance
> comparisons in this list.  Its website boasts performance results that are
> usually better than TYA 1.2v3,

Benchmark tests on the page, Linpack benchmark,
Eratosthenes sieve and CaffeineMark isn't usual
applications.

I, an author of shuJIT, don't think that shuJIT is
usually faster than TYA. Which of the two JITs is faster
depends on kind of applications.

I'm evaluating Java implementations of candidates for
AES. An algorithm is boosted more by TYA, but another
one is adapted to shuJIT better.

> and I'd be curious to hear about it's ease of use.
> (http://www.shudo.net/jit/)

Its usage is the same as other JITs.
You can use it by the JVM option `-Djava.compiler=shujit'
or setting an environmental variable `JAVA_COMPILER=shujit'.

Kazuyuki SHUDO  Happy Hacking!
  Muraoka Lab., Grad. School of Sci. & Eng., Waseda Univ.



Re: Wierd results using binfmt_misc

1999-02-19 Thread Michael Sinz

On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 05:55:52 -0600, Steve Cohen wrote:

>I have recently installed binfmt_misc on my linux system using kernel
>2.2.1.
>I have this game application I've written.  It lives in its own package
>in its own directory one level down from ./usr/local/java.
>Following the suggestions of people here, I have gotten into the habit
>of NOT defining classpath variables but using the -classpath switches in
>
>javac and java.  Therefore I had to rewrite the "javawrapper" that comes
>
>as a sample with the binfmt_misc documentation.
>
>Now for the wierd part.  It all works just fine when I am logged in as
>root.  But when logged in as myself, java reports that it can't find my
>class.  What could cause this?  I have loaded up my javawrapper script
>with a bunch of echo statements and am convinced that it produces the
>same output under both logins.  Neither as root nor as myself do I have
>a CLASSPATH variable defined.  So what else could it be?

Have you checked the access rights of the directories and class files?
Most likely, if you built under root, it does not have world read or
execute on the files and/or directories.  (Actually, the .class files
do not need execute but they do need read)

>Or is it just a bad idea to use a package member class as the class
>holding main()?

No, I do that all the time.  It works well.

I do not, however, use my system under "root" *except* when absolutely
required (as in, when doing admin work).  This is a good habit to be
in since it tends to reduce your chances of really getting messed up
or having some unwanted access into your system.  It also helps
identify things like access rights issues in your directories and files
since non-root users actually are held to them.

Michael Sinz -- Director of Research & Development, NextBus Inc.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.nextbus.com
My place on the web ---> http://www.users.fast.net/~michael_sinz




Running with another locale

1999-02-19 Thread Ulrich Kortenkamp

Hi,

does anybody know how to set the locale other than using
-Duser.language=something?  I know that the Win JVM respects the
locale of the OS, but the Java port does not seem to care (i.e. when I
set LANG=de I still get en as user.language).

Can anybody tell me whether there is another way than the one above? 

Thanks,

Ulli

-- 
Order Cinderella (http://www.cinderella.de) now:
 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/3540147195/theinteractivege



Re: More evil from Microsoft [Off topic]

1999-02-19 Thread Dimitris Vyzovitis

Brian Jones wrote:

> Christopher Rowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Oops, I thought he was referring to something else.
> >
> > Didn't Microsoft have a Unix-like OS with a name similar to Minix?
>
> Xenix.  Radio Shack was using this for their POS systems as recently
> as around 4 years ago.

$Oops^2$ ;-}

I was indeed refering to Xenix.
Sorry if, I insulted anybody with that (I think minix is OK to stast
theoretical study with OSes )





Re: More evil from Microsoft [Off topic]

1999-02-19 Thread Dimitris Vyzovitis

Ted Garrett wrote:

> I don't think you are looking at the true history of what 'windoze people'
> willingly use.  Look at "Frontpage Server Extensions", "VBScript", and the
> number of sites on the internet which have '.asp' as their primary
> document type.
>
> Microsoft can spend a few hundred million advertising the 'innovations',
> 'ease of use', and 'stability' of this product, and upper level management
> buys into it after only a couple of months.

 They can advertize (and propagandize) as much as they like, but I haven't known
anyone using windows for something more than games, who doesn't complain about
instability.


>
> I recently had an employer ask me (completely seriously) why I didn't
> think that implementing an enterprise-wide database application using
> Microsoft Access was a good idea.

 Propaganda
Access for a serious database {\em is} suicide


>  After all, it IS the database engine
> supplied with Microsoft Office, which is the number one application for
> windows.
>
> Windoze people will buy anything microsoft sells them.

Hm, I wouldn't like to think of  all these millions of users as "stupid" (OK, it
is stupid to stick with windows for serious work...)

But who knows?



Re: TFS Delivery Failure: Re: Mailing list trouble (fwd)

1999-02-19 Thread Dimitris Vyzovitis

"Brett W. McCoy" wrote:

> This is the bounce message I am continually getting.  Is anyone else
> getting this?
>

I also get it whenever I do download my mails (and they contain a message
from the list).


Dimitris



Applet

1999-02-19 Thread Fernando Barrocal

Hello

I'm a NEWBIE on this java thing :)

How do I create and write a file on server with an Applet

THANK YOU



117a installation grief

1999-02-19 Thread David Kosmal


I having problems with installation of the 117a JDK installation.  I get
the following when I try to run any of the executables:

   ls: not: No such file or directory
   /usr/local/jdk117_v1a/bin/../bin/i586/green_threads/java: can't
resolve symbol '_Xglobal_lock'
   /usr/local/jdk117_v1a/bin/../bin/i586/green_threads/java: can't
resolve symbol '_XUnlockMutex_fn'
   /usr/local/jdk117_v1a/bin/../bin/i586/green_threads/java: can't
resolve symbol '_XLockMutex_fn'

I am running Redhat 5.2 with the default "server" installation.

I understand that the symbol problems involve an incorrect library
(although I don't know how to fix it).  I tried setting the NS_JAVA
variable and this gets rid of the symbol errors, but I still get the "No
such file or directory" message and the all the executables crash with
the following:

  SIGSEGV   11* segmentation violation
  stackbase=(nil), stackpointer=(nil)

  Full thread dump:
  NULL (TID:0x405100b0, sys_thread_t:0x80a1278, state:R)
prio=5Killed

Thanks for any help.

David Kosmal




java shell script

1999-02-19 Thread pridemor

Greetings,

I'm having problems running java from within a shell script.  The java
application mostly runs, but I've noticed that it does not receive a
^C interrupt and it cannot read from stdin when invoked this way.
Typing "java ..." directly at my bash prompt does not demonstrate
this problem.  Any ideas?

I'm running Linux kernel 2.0.36 (RedHat 5.2) with Blackdown's JDK
1.1.7_v1a.  The following little class demonstrates the problem...


import java.io.*;

class input
{

   public static void main(String[] argv)
   {
  BufferedReader in = new BufferedReader(new InputStreamReader(System.in));

  try {
 while (true) {
String line = in.readLine();
if (line == null) break;
System.out.println(line);
 }
  } catch (Exception e) {
 e.printStackTrace();
  }
   }
}


And here's a simple shell script...

#!/bin/sh

java -classpath $CLASSPATH input




Re: java shell script

1999-02-19 Thread Moses DeJong

On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> I'm having problems running java from within a shell script.  The java
> application mostly runs, but I've noticed that it does not receive a
> ^C interrupt and it cannot read from stdin when invoked this way.
> Typing "java ..." directly at my bash prompt does not demonstrate
> this problem.  Any ideas?
> 
> I'm running Linux kernel 2.0.36 (RedHat 5.2) with Blackdown's JDK
> 1.1.7_v1a.  The following little class demonstrates the problem...
> 
> 
> import java.io.*;
> 
> class input
> {
> 
>public static void main(String[] argv)
>{
>   BufferedReader in = new BufferedReader(new InputStreamReader(System.in));
> 
>   try {
>  while (true) {
> String line = in.readLine();
> if (line == null) break;
> System.out.println(line);
>  }
>   } catch (Exception e) {
>  e.printStackTrace();
>   }
>}
> }
> 
> 
> And here's a simple shell script...
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> 
> java -classpath $CLASSPATH input
> 
> 


I ran into this same problem. I too posted a note to the mailing list
but I did not hear back from anyone. The really odd part was that it
only seemed to happen when running with native threads. If I ran the
green threads version it worked just fine. Another strange thing that
seemed to happen with that native threads version is that reading
from System.in did not work when java was invoked from a shell script.


Mo DeJong
dejong at cs.umn.edu



Re: java shell script

1999-02-19 Thread Michael Sinz

On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:10:43 -0600, Moses DeJong wrote:

>I ran into this same problem. I too posted a note to the mailing list
>but I did not hear back from anyone. The really odd part was that it
>only seemed to happen when running with native threads. If I ran the
>green threads version it worked just fine. Another strange thing that
>seemed to happen with that native threads version is that reading
>from System.in did not work when java was invoked from a shell script.

Please remember that the 1.1.7 native threads package is "beta level"
code.  It works relatively well but there are known limitations and
some other problems with it.  You may have bumped into one or two of these.


Michael Sinz -- Director of Research & Development, NextBus Inc.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.nextbus.com
My place on the web ---> http://www.users.fast.net/~michael_sinz




Re: java shell script

1999-02-19 Thread pridemor

No, I'm seeing the same problem with both green and native threads...





[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/19/99 05:17:34 PM

Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:(bcc: Russell Pridemore/Lex/Lexmark)
Subject:  Re: java shell script




On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:10:43 -0600, Moses DeJong wrote:

>I ran into this same problem. I too posted a note to the mailing list
>but I did not hear back from anyone. The really odd part was that it
>only seemed to happen when running with native threads. If I ran the
>green threads version it worked just fine. Another strange thing that
>seemed to happen with that native threads version is that reading
>from System.in did not work when java was invoked from a shell script.

Please remember that the 1.1.7 native threads package is "beta level"
code.  It works relatively well but there are known limitations and
some other problems with it.  You may have bumped into one or two of these.


Michael Sinz -- Director of Research & Development, NextBus Inc.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.nextbus.com
My place on the web ---> http://www.users.fast.net/~michael_sinz










Re: java shell script

1999-02-19 Thread Michael Sinz

On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:29:55 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>No, I'm seeing the same problem with both green and native threads...

Hmmm...  I run Java from shell scripts all the time.
Which shell are you using?

Michael Sinz -- Director of Research & Development, NextBus Inc.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.nextbus.com
My place on the web ---> http://www.users.fast.net/~michael_sinz




Re: java shell script

1999-02-19 Thread Moses DeJong

Humm, I did not run into that. Another thing you might want to try is
to exec the java program instead of just running it as a child process.
When I used "exec java -native ..." that fixed the problem for me.

Mo DeJong
dejong at cs.umn.edu

On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> No, I'm seeing the same problem with both green and native threads...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/19/99 05:17:34 PM
> 
> Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:(bcc: Russell Pridemore/Lex/Lexmark)
> Subject:  Re: java shell script
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:10:43 -0600, Moses DeJong wrote:
> 
> >I ran into this same problem. I too posted a note to the mailing list
> >but I did not hear back from anyone. The really odd part was that it
> >only seemed to happen when running with native threads. If I ran the
> >green threads version it worked just fine. Another strange thing that
> >seemed to happen with that native threads version is that reading
> >from System.in did not work when java was invoked from a shell script.
> 
> Please remember that the 1.1.7 native threads package is "beta level"
> code.  It works relatively well but there are known limitations and
> some other problems with it.  You may have bumped into one or two of these.
> 
> 
> Michael Sinz -- Director of Research & Development, NextBus Inc.
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.nextbus.com
> My place on the web ---> http://www.users.fast.net/~michael_sinz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



receive a file

1999-02-19 Thread James Johnson

Dear Java-gurus

Is it possible to retrieve a file from a user that connects to a site with Java?
I would like to have an application that performs data analysis on a users data
set and would like then to be able to send the file to me from the web interface.

Thanks in advance,
-Jim Johnon



Re: receive a file

1999-02-19 Thread Michael Sinz

On Sat, 20 Feb 1999 00:34:21 +, James Johnson wrote:

>Dear Java-gurus
>
>Is it possible to retrieve a file from a user that connects to a site with Java?
>I would like to have an application that performs data analysis on a users data
>set and would like then to be able to send the file to me from the web interface.

Normally not.  A signed applet that the user lets the browser drop
the security for can do so but only then.

Michael Sinz -- Director of Research & Development, NextBus Inc.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.nextbus.com
My place on the web ---> http://www.users.fast.net/~michael_sinz




java-linux@java.blackdown.org

1999-02-19 Thread Arnaldo Riquelme

I'm a bigginer linux user, and the more I learn about it , the more I
like it.(specially because I have access to the source code).
I'd like to hear you opinion about Java applications, applets on Linux.
What advantage do you see running java apps on this platform , rather
than running it on NT?
Do you think Java-Linux is a good combination for enterprice
apps.(client/server, etc).

thanks
ajr



hey

1999-02-19 Thread dave1376

Hey,

Just wanted to drop you a note.  There is a computer 
show this weekend at the Radisson Hotel in Overland 
Park.  If you are still looking for those parts, its 
a good place to find them.  I think the hours are 
10 to 3 on Sunday, but you might want to get there 
early you know how those things go quickly.  Its off 
of I35 about 1/2 mile east on 87th street.  Its $3.00 
to get in but the saving more than makes up for that.  
Last time there were several dozen vendors and they 
always have giveaways, I know they give away $50.00 at 
2pm during every show.  It should be a good one.  See 
ya there.

dave  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



setEnabled()

1999-02-19 Thread Jason Dillon

Do any of you know if setEnabled() on a swing component is supposed to notify
all of its children that it is disabled?  I thought that is was supposed to...
but I can't seem to get it to work.

--jason



Re: 117a installation grief

1999-02-19 Thread Christopher Rowan

Which installer are you using?

Did you read the FAQ?

Did you read the INSTALL docs?  It's short, so it's easy to be fooled
into just skimming, but there are some very important details in there.

I'll bet you are using the Motif version.  Forget that - get the regular
version.  Also, grab the X dev rpm from an ftp.redhat.com mirror and put
that in too.  Sounds like you don't have it installed, which will be a
pain in the future.  You'll prolly want the C/C++ gcc dev libraries too.

I installed blackdown java as a newer than new newbie without a glitch. 
Read carefully and you should have zero problems...

David Kosmal wrote:
> 
> I having problems with installation of the 117a JDK installation.  I get
> the following when I try to run any of the executables:
> 
>ls: not: No such file or directory
>/usr/local/jdk117_v1a/bin/../bin/i586/green_threads/java: can't
> resolve symbol '_Xglobal_lock'
>/usr/local/jdk117_v1a/bin/../bin/i586/green_threads/java: can't
> resolve symbol '_XUnlockMutex_fn'
>/usr/local/jdk117_v1a/bin/../bin/i586/green_threads/java: can't
> resolve symbol '_XLockMutex_fn'
> 
> I am running Redhat 5.2 with the default "server" installation.
> 
> I understand that the symbol problems involve an incorrect library
> (although I don't know how to fix it).  I tried setting the NS_JAVA
> variable and this gets rid of the symbol errors, but I still get the "No
> such file or directory" message and the all the executables crash with
> the following:
> 
>   SIGSEGV   11* segmentation violation
>   stackbase=(nil), stackpointer=(nil)
> 
>   Full thread dump:
>   NULL (TID:0x405100b0, sys_thread_t:0x80a1278, state:R)
> prio=5Killed
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> David Kosmal



Re: Wierd results using binfmt_misc

1999-02-19 Thread Steve Cohen

Michael Sinz wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 05:55:52 -0600, Steve Cohen wrote:
>
> >I have recently installed binfmt_misc on my linux system using kernel
> >2.2.1.
> >I have this game application I've written.  It lives in its own package
> >in its own directory one level down from ./usr/local/java.
> >Following the suggestions of people here, I have gotten into the habit
> >of NOT defining classpath variables but using the -classpath switches in
> >
> >javac and java.  Therefore I had to rewrite the "javawrapper" that comes
> >
> >as a sample with the binfmt_misc documentation.
> >
> >Now for the wierd part.  It all works just fine when I am logged in as
> >root.  But when logged in as myself, java reports that it can't find my
> >class.  What could cause this?  I have loaded up my javawrapper script
> >with a bunch of echo statements and am convinced that it produces the
> >same output under both logins.  Neither as root nor as myself do I have
> >a CLASSPATH variable defined.  So what else could it be?
>
> Have you checked the access rights of the directories and class files?
> Most likely, if you built under root, it does not have world read or
> execute on the files and/or directories.  (Actually, the .class files
> do not need execute but they do need read)
>
> >Or is it just a bad idea to use a package member class as the class
> >holding main()?
>
> No, I do that all the time.  It works well.
>
> I do not, however, use my system under "root" *except* when absolutely
> required (as in, when doing admin work).  This is a good habit to be
> in since it tends to reduce your chances of really getting messed up
> or having some unwanted access into your system.  It also helps
> identify things like access rights issues in your directories and files
> since non-root users actually are held to them.

Thanks, it was the permissions, but not because I was using root.  I don't
normally log in as root but it was necessary for tinkering with the
javawrapper script.  The permissions were fouled up for a very wierd reason
- I had written the code prior to upgrading the system.  The upgrade did not
go smoothly and somehow my user id # got fouled up. The system didn't
consider me the owner even though "I" was the original owner and wrote all
the code.  However, even so, shouldn't class files as opposed to source
files normally be readable by anyone?  That was not the case here.  My class
files seem to be readable only by owner and group, not everyone.

>
>
> Michael Sinz -- Director of Research & Development, NextBus Inc.
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.nextbus.com
> My place on the web ---> http://www.users.fast.net/~michael_sinz



Re: hey

1999-02-19 Thread Michael Doherty

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> Just wanted to drop you a note.  There is a computer
> show this weekend at the Radisson Hotel in Overland
> Park.  If you are still looking for those parts, its
> a good place to find them.  I think the hours are
> 10 to 3 on Sunday, but you might want to get there
> early you know how those things go quickly.  Its off
> of I35 about 1/2 mile east on 87th street.  Its $3.00
> to get in but the saving more than makes up for that.
> Last time there were several dozen vendors and they
> always have giveaways, I know they give away $50.00 at
> 2pm during every show.  It should be a good one.  See
> ya there.
> 
> dave
> 

Dave,

Thanks for the info. but what in what country is Overland Park? 
some of us on the list may not live near you.



Re: hey

1999-02-19 Thread Nathan Meyers

Michael Doherty wrote:
> Thanks for the info. but what in what country is Overland Park?
> some of us on the list may not live near you.

Hmmm... I vaguely recall an Overton park in Memphis :-).

But seriously, folks... responding to spam is a good way to get your
name added to a list of known live addresses :-(.

Nathan



java-linux@java.blackdown.org

1999-02-19 Thread Nathan Meyers

Arnaldo Riquelme wrote:
> What advantage do you see running java apps on this platform , rather
> than running it on NT?
> Do you think Java-Linux is a good combination for enterprice
> apps.(client/server, etc).

The main advantage of running Java apps on the Linux platform is that
you're not tying up a perfectly good computer on running Windows :-).

Your latter question is an interesting one. The Java on Linux is very
good, and Linux is a good enterprise platform. I'm also curious to know
what sort of enterprise-level apps are exploiting Java on Linux -- is
there more to enterprise Java than servlets?

Nathan



java question

1999-02-19 Thread Steve Cohen

I realize that this is not the proper forum for this, but I consider
this list pretty knowledgeable about java and I just toy around with it
at the moment.  My employer is working on an application that is
deliverable on many platforms, from a standalone win32 platform to
client-server versions served everywhere from NT to mulitple flavors of
unix (Sun, HP, AIX, etc.) to AS400.  The application is written in C and
C++.

One minor part of this application, for which I have become responsible,
delivers a file of updated information to the users via the internet.
Once a month, the administrator of the customer system would contact our
web site and download the information.  However the design is to do it
from within our application, not from a browser (just press a button).
The thought of programming this connection and the logic behind it
(don't download file if already up to date, etc.) on all these platforms
is a little daunting, and so tonight, it occurred to me that perhaps
this part of the application  - contacting the web site and ftping the
file -  might be doable as a java bean.

Offhand, this seems like a great way to make use of the cross-platform
capabilities of java.
Performance is not an issue.  The file is small.  My questions are then,

1) are java virtual machines available on the full range of platforms
mentioned above?
2) if customers do not have java installed, what runtime licensing
issues are there?
3)  How difficult and how possible is it to call java beans from C and
C++ code on these platforms?



java-linux@java.blackdown.org

1999-02-19 Thread Anil kumar

On Fri, 19 Feb 1999, Nathan Meyers wrote:

> Arnaldo Riquelme wrote:
> > What advantage do you see running java apps on this platform , rather
> > than running it on NT?
> > Do you think Java-Linux is a good combination for enterprice
> > apps.(client/server, etc).
> 
> The main advantage of running Java apps on the Linux platform is that
> you're not tying up a perfectly good computer on running Windows :-).
> 
> Your latter question is an interesting one. The Java on Linux is very
> good, and Linux is a good enterprise platform. I'm also curious to know
> what sort of enterprise-level apps are exploiting Java on Linux -- is
> there more to enterprise Java than servlets?
> 
> Nathan
> 
> 

my team is engaged in the development of a software package in 100% pure
java for  book distribution and retailing enterprise. java is as good or
better than any other language/tool for creating enterprise solutions
especially because of its platform independence and netwok capability.

and from a managers point to view with a given expertise you can
produce a better quality app in a shorter period thanks to the inherent
qualities of java.

substantial cost reduction is possible on 'software infrastructure' if an
enterprise decides to run their operation on linux. 

another interesting aspect is both java and linux come free!

comment on it!

cheers
Anil

Advanced Technology Group, River Valley Technologies 
URL http://www.river-valley.com