Re: VisualAge for Java for Linux

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous

Alex Rice wrote:

> 
> Yes, everyone, check it out. Visual Age for Java is a great
> development environment.
> 

Just downloaded it, and started using it.  

Is it me, or is this Linux version about twice as fast as the Windows
version on a comparable computer?  This will make a nice example
application for showing off Linux.

So far, the port is great.  It crashed once on me, when I was doing an
import.  All internal consistency was maintained, though, and it worked
fine after restarting it.

- Robb


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tritonus version 0.1.003 released

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous

Hi,

there is a new release of tritonus, the JavaSound implementation for
Linux.

http://rupert.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/~pfistere/tritonus/

Improvements over version: 0.1.002:
- pause() and resume() are implemented
- channels send start, stop and eom events
- workaround for buggy file parsers (now all work)

Matthias Pfisterer


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Re: netscape in Linux 6.0 crashes (Java)

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous

Everyone is having this problem, has to do with a bug in one of the
RPMS that come with RH6.0, there is a fix though, something to do with
adding another font entry, you can find it on the RedHat site
somewhere, like in the FAQ.  Good luck.


--- Larry LeFever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I guess there might be a "glibc"-related problem
> here.
> 
> This newbie would sure appreciate a straightforward
> technique for
> getting Netscape to run Java in Linux 6.0.
> 
> I've read that FAQ about glibc and using that
> command for determining
> which version I'm running, but isn't there something
> clear and
> straightforward about this, like: "Linux 6.0
> Bug-fix: do such-and-such
> to upgrade or patch Communicator to enable it to run
> Java"   ?
> 
> Any feedback on this would be much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Larry LeFever
> Newbie
> 
> 
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Re: [off-topic] stop bashing!

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous

The distance between the core published API and the actual layer at which
system services requests are made, is very far. The is a set of .java routines
that just dont get changed, and are common between win&solaris machines. Then
there is a set of '.java' routines, that are particular to windoz, and a set
for solaris ports. These particular java routines take care of the necessary
transslations between the OS and the core java routines that just dont get
changed.  System pecularities should never have to go beyond the 'system'
interface routines, or bubble up to, or beyond these service routines.

But eventually someone is gonna want to try to build a >4gig file ( >32bit
seeks )  on the alpha/linux box. Maybe someone is gonna try to read from a
16gig file. These are all valid uses. And Should I limit these people to 32bit
file sizes, or allow them the full use of the OS capabilities? And what of the
reverse - If I create a 14gig file on alpha/linux using the Alpha JDK and
attempt to shuve it onto an intel box, you may not be able to move that file to
that intel box., because the file system may not be able to handle that file
size.  Would u blame the OS, the Intel JDK, or the Alpha JDK.

>From the front everything appears to be homogenious, (even on my alpha/linux
port ) but in the back there are some real life issues. And they tend to get
resolved without the java user ever noticing.

Tell me, did Microsoft alter the published core API to suit their own
sensibilities? I dont know, as I didnt pay much attention. Or did they just
manipulate the back-end services.


Cees de Groot wrote:

> Uncle George:
>
> >Actually u do have to change the '.java' files ( simply for practicable
> >convience ). Having extensive experience in porting sun's JDK, I find
> >it rather difficult to store 64bits into a 32bit java int.  Maybe u can
> >review the java-linux-porting diffs of their 1.2 port.  I'd like to know,
> >for example, how the solaris printer 'queue' switches was changed to be
> >compatable with linux printer 'queue' commands.
>
> Where do 32/64bit differences on the platform bubble up to the java.*
> level that you would need to change this? If there are such locations,
> these should be reported as bugs because on the java level you shouldn't
> be able to determine the native wordsize of the underlying platform.
>
> Changing the wordsize of standard API level interfaces during a port
> would completely defeat the purpose of the virtual machine, and I for
> one are very glad that Sun wouldn't allow this. If your Alpha port
> has changed ints and longs in API .java files it's just as much Java
> as Microsoft's stuff is...
>
>




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[OFFTOPIC] When McNealy took the stage, the true Redmond bashing began

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous

Read this =)



   Date: 18-06-99
 Source: InfoWorld 
Subject: McNealy preaches to the converted during final JavaOne keynote 

The final keynote address of this week's JavaOne developer conference in
San Francisco had three overarching themes: Linux is good, Microsoft is
evil, and appliance computing is here to stay. 

Patricia Sueltz, general manager of Java at IBM, took the stage first to
discuss what she and Sun Microsystems CEO Scott McNealy have in common: a
commitment to core standard technologies such as Linux, the Extensible
Markup Language (XML), and Java for driving e-business applications. 

In response to a petition signed by almost 1,000 developers, IBM last week
released VisualAge for Java. 

"The Linux JVM [Java virtual machine] is part of IBM's major commitment to
Linux support on hardware and software," Sueltz said. 

Sueltz pleaded with the almost 10,000 developers in the audience -- JavaOne
itself was attended by about 21,000 people -- to continue to be vocal and
aggressive in their commitment to standards. In a tone reminiscent of a
rally on the campus of U.C. Berkeley, Sueltz shouted, "refuse to conform to
proprietary development models. Throw them out! Subvert the forces that
would fragment Java! Continue to fight for open standards!" 

Sueltz also lauded the power of XML, saying that "XML does for data what
Java does for apps," and she encouraged the definition of standards to link
the two before proprietary solutions emerge first. 

When McNealy took the stage, the true Redmond bashing began, with even a
few jabs at IBM -- despite that company's fervent support of Java. McNealy
opened with his usual top 10 list, this time: the "Top 10 signs your boss
isn't designed to be a software development manager." 

The top signs included, "He thinks plug-ins are an alternative to Rogaine;
he thinks since Microsoft calls it Windows 2000 it must be Y2K-compliant;
and No. 1, he actually dated in high school." 

The Microsoft insults were greeted with more applause than the developer
geek jokes. 

Next, McNealy reminded attendees that he promised in his speech in 1998 to
drive Java down to consumer devices. This reminder served as his launch
into a description of the new computing model that says software is
becoming a commodity and will be replaced by appliances and services. 

In addition to its mobility, McNealy said safety and security are Java's
most compelling attributes. He compared Java with what he perceives as a
virus-prone Windows environment that is not nearly stable enough. 

"If this was the car business, the government would force Microsoft to
recall every one of those things. Write safely, write in Java," McNealy said. 

Under this new appliance/services model, McNealy said that only three
architectures will continue to thrive: Linux, Wintel, and
Java/Solaris/Sparc/Jini. What used to be software applications will become
features accessible from a Java browser, he said. 

"When was the last time you saw a software start-up?" McNealy asked. 

According to McNealy, this new model is cheaper, more exciting, and
certainly more mobile. 

"It would be really cool if you didn't have to lug your computer everywhere
you went," McNealy said -- a statement for which he received significant
applause from an audience that was likely exhausted from toting their
laptops around all week. 

Emily Fitzloff is an InfoWorld senior writer.


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Re: [OFFTOPIC] When McNealy took the stage, the true Redmond bashing began

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous

Thanks for posting this.

>Under this new appliance/services model, McNealy said that only three
>architectures will continue to thrive: Linux, Wintel, and
>Java/Solaris/Sparc/Jini. What used to be software applications will become
>features accessible from a Java browser, he said. 

Given all the Linux spin at JavaOne, I'm curious about this statement.
What's wrong with Java/Linux/Intel/Jini? It's a hell of a lot cheaper
and smaller than Solaris on Sparcs.

Nelson, once again pushing for Java/Linux.

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Off Topic: Instalation of Visual Age

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous

Sorry guys I know this is an off topic but the visual age site doesn't
work and I got it (the va for linux) but I need the instalation
instructions

Does anyone have it?

please send it to me.

thanks.



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Re: [OFFTOPIC] When McNealy took the stage, the true Redmond bashing began

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous

Nelson Minar wrote:
> 
> Thanks for posting this.
> 
> >Under this new appliance/services model, McNealy said that only three
> >architectures will continue to thrive: Linux, Wintel, and
> >Java/Solaris/Sparc/Jini. What used to be software applications will become
> >features accessible from a Java browser, he said.
> 
> Given all the Linux spin at JavaOne, I'm curious about this statement.
> What's wrong with Java/Linux/Intel/Jini? It's a hell of a lot cheaper
> and smaller than Solaris on Sparcs.

Typical Sun marketing-speak. McNealy's comment also gives the finger to
all of the other Unix vendors. Linux partisans shouldn't take it
personally.

Nathan


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Re: Off Topic: Instalation of Visual Age

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous


On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:39:43 -0500,
Javier =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bola=F1os?= Molina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

Javier> Sorry guys I know this is an off topic but the visual age site
Javier> doesn't work and I got it (the va for linux) but I need the
Javier> instalation instructions

It's pretty simple: 

1) untar it in your home directory (why it insists on this I don't know,
it's lame)

2) run the new script in your home directory and it will finish the
install and start the program

3) everything else is under ~/ide/ 

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please help

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous

trying to install the jdk and jre on stock rh5.2 and get the same error
and paths must be off?

/usr/lib/jdk1.2/bin/i386/green_threads/java: error in loading shared
libraries
libhpi.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory



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Re: netscape in Linux 6.0 crashes (Java)

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous

Bob Cadenza wrote:
> 
> Everyone is having this problem, has to do with a bug in one of the
> RPMS that come with RH6.0, there is a fix though, something to do with
> adding another font entry, you can find it on the RedHat site
> somewhere, like in the FAQ.  Good luck.

Yes, here's a post from Ron Olsen in comp.os.linux.misc which details
the fix.  This did it for me.  BTW, in a later posting Ron mentioned
that the reference to "chkfontlist" below was a typo and should have
read "chkfontpath".

Ron Olsen wrote:
> 
> Change the 'catalogue' section of your /etc/X11/fs/config from 
>this: 
>  
> catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
>  
> to this:
>  
> catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
>  
> Then (as root) do /etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs restart
>  
> This can also be accomplished via
>  
> chkfontlist --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
>  
> -- 
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>  Boulder Colorado
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Re: [off-topic] stop bashing!

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous


[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> But eventually someone is gonna want to try to build a >4gig file ( >
> 32bit seeks )  on the alpha/linux box.

As file offsets/lengths are specified as 64bits in 
java.io.{File,RandomAccessFile}, that shouldn't be a problem. Downloading a 
200Gig file to a DOS filesystem could be a problem, yes, but that's hardly up 
to the porter to decide. It seems to me that throughout Java, 64bitiness was 
reckoned with (logical - AXP was there, 64bit UltraSPARC around the corner).

Anyway, it seems you were misunderstood (including by me) - it seemed that you 
were hacking the interface of the java.* files, instead of tweaking the 
implementation of those to match the underlying platform, which is of course 
just fine.

(and I don't give a shit about what Microsoft did or didn't do - Microsoft 
won't be beaten in court, but in the marketplace).

Regards,

Cees

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Re: [OFFTOPIC] When McNealy took the stage, the true Redmond bashing began

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous

Nelson:
>Given all the Linux spin at JavaOne, I'm curious about this statement.
>What's wrong with Java/Linux/Intel/Jini? It's a hell of a lot cheaper
>and smaller than Solaris on Sparcs.
>
Two sides: first, whatever McNealy says, he rather sees Java running on
Sparc/Solaris than on Linux/Intel. Given the fact that he makes a living
on selling these boxes, I can't blame him for that :-).

Second, a part of the vision here is that very big irons (like the
Enterprise 1) will serve a lot of very small appliances (like
Palms). Now, I don't know whether Linux will actually boot on this
box, but when I shell out a 7-figure number for a server box I don't
really mind when a vendor-supported OS runs on it.

Anyway, go to the JavaOne website and watch this keynote (and the other
ones as well, while you're at it - this was the best one, especially
the comedy group in the middle, but Douglas Adams' speech was worthwhile
as well). I don't care whether he's right or not, I simply love a CEO
standing in jeans in front of a 10k audience bashing Microsoft ;-}



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Re: please help

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous

--- "Jeffrey M. Drum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> trying to install the jdk and jre on stock rh5.2 and get the
> same error
> and paths must be off?
> 
> /usr/lib/jdk1.2/bin/i386/green_threads/java: error in loading
> shared
> libraries
> libhpi.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> directory

Check the permissions of that directory.  You also may need to
set some environment variables, such as JAVA_HOME or JAVAHOME or
JDKHOME (it seems to change, I just set them all).  The
/usr/lib/jdk1.2/bin/java is just a symlink to a shell script
that sets up the proper environment variables to run the binary.
 You may want to take a look at that.

Have you found the libhpi.so file from the lib directory?

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Re: [off-topic] stop bashing!

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous

Uncle George wrote:
> 
> 
> Tell me, did Microsoft alter the published core API to suit their own
> sensibilities? I dont know, as I didnt pay much attention. Or did they just
> manipulate the back-end services.
> 

As a matter of fact, they did. This is why Sun sued them - they created
something they called "Java" that was only usable on their OS. They
changed core, published APIs, they added new keywords to the "core"
language, and they omitted JNI from their implementation (JNI is a
required part of any implementation). They also didn't tell any of their
customers that applications written using their tools would not run on
non-MS platforms.

Back to the size of int:

If you read the Java Language Specification, page 30, section 4.2,
you'll see that (on page 31 specifically) an int is defined as holding a
32-bit value, and a long is defined as holding a 64-bit value.
Therefore, you do not need to change the size of int to 64-bits. In your
applications, you should use a long if you need a 64-bit value:

"The integral types are byte, short, int and long, whose values are
8-bit, 16-bit, 32-bit and 64-bit unsigned two's-complement integers,
respectively..."



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RE: netscape in Linux 6.0 crashes (Java)

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous

The error still persists after doing the changes suggested by you. It
gives the error as:
Font specified in font.properties not found [--zapf
dingbats-medium-r-normal---*-%d-*-*-p-*-adobe-fontspecific]

-Original Message-
From:   Jim Caley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, June 21, 1999 11:09 PM
To: Bob Cadenza; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Larry
LeFever
Subject:Re: netscape in Linux 6.0 crashes (Java)

Bob Cadenza wrote:
> 
> Everyone is having this problem, has to do with a bug in one
of the
> RPMS that come with RH6.0, there is a fix though, something to
do with
> adding another font entry, you can find it on the RedHat site
> somewhere, like in the FAQ.  Good luck.

Yes, here's a post from Ron Olsen in comp.os.linux.misc which
details
the fix.  This did it for me.  BTW, in a later posting Ron
mentioned
that the reference to "chkfontlist" below was a typo and should
have
read "chkfontpath".

Ron Olsen wrote:
> 
> Change the 'catalogue' section of your
/etc/X11/fs/config from this: 
>  
> catalogue =
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,
>
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
>
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
>  
> to this:
>  
> catalogue =
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,
>
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
>
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
>  
> Then (as root) do /etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs
restart
>  
> This can also be accomplished via
>  
> chkfontlist --add
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
>  
> -- 
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>  Boulder Colorado
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HTH,
Jim Caley



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Netscape in RedHat 6.0 crashes (Java)

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous


Netscape in RedHat 6.0 crashes (Java):
--

solution: upgrade to XFree86-3.3.3.1-52.

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Re: netscape in Linux 6.0 crashes (Java)

1999-06-21 Thread Anonymous

Also, you should allways "unset CLASSPATH" before running Netscape. If there are JDK 
classes
on your classpath, Netscape will allmost certainly crash while starting Java.

regards

  [ bryce ]

Jim Caley wrote:

> Bob Cadenza wrote:
> >
> > Everyone is having this problem, has to do with a bug in one of the
> > RPMS that come with RH6.0, there is a fix though, something to do with
> > adding another font entry, you can find it on the RedHat site
> > somewhere, like in the FAQ.  Good luck.
>
> Yes, here's a post from Ron Olsen in comp.os.linux.misc which details
> the fix.  This did it for me.  BTW, in a later posting Ron mentioned
> that the reference to "chkfontlist" below was a typo and should have
> read "chkfontpath".
>
> Ron Olsen wrote:
> >
> > Change the 'catalogue' section of your /etc/X11/fs/config from 
>this:
> >
> > catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
> >
> > to this:
> >
> > catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
> >
> > Then (as root) do /etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs restart
> >
> > This can also be accomplished via
> >
> > chkfontlist --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
> >
> > --
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