Re: Request: No more generic Java questions
I am also counting all of the responses. The following threads in the last month or so I consider unrelated to Linux: UnknownHostException (3 messages) follow-up Re: UnknownHostException (2 messages) Is it possible to start Java application ... (2 messages) Is there a solution? (1 message) Starting java (1 message) Template makefile for Java? (2 messages) How to print String to default Printer, Help (2 messages) Pablo- configurar imap (2 messages) localhost ip (12 messages) The list goes on. In fact the majority of messages to this list have nothing to do with Linux. All I am asking is for people not to send replies to these "generic" questions to the entire list; we don't need to see those responses since they aren't relevant. Matt Welsh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request: No more generic Java questions
Hi, For the last 3 days it was about 20 messages on the java-linux list. Two or three of them (including responses) were generic. It is not huge traffic, comparing with one couple of years ago. I would be more concern that we have not enough questions. If this is the case, the mailing list is dying. Do you think there is real abuse of the list? Regards, Jacob Nikom Matt Welsh wrote: > In recent weeks we have seen a large number of non-Linux related Java > questions on this list. While I suppose there is little that can be done > to prevent that, I'd like to propose that replies to those questions > be sent directly to the person asking, rather than the whole list. > > There are a few people on the list who make a point to reply to every > non-Linux-related question. While I'm glad that they are willing to > provide that support, I think it would be best not to send the replies > to the whole list. The large amount of non-Linux traffic renders the > 'java-linux' list almost ineffective for discussions about Java on Linux. > If we can throttle those discussions I think the list would clear up and > be more effective for its original purpose. > > Thanks. > > Matt Welsh, UC Berkeley > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request: No more generic Java questions
Many of the people on this list subscribe to many lists in order to keep on top of changes in important areas of the industry. The noise is cumulative between lists. I would gladly accept no traffic on this list for weeks at a time to cut down on the noise. This is a list designed to disseminate information. If you want a 'live' discussion, AOL has plenty of chat rooms. -John John Rousseau [EMAIL PROTECTED] SilverStream Software Phone: +1 978 262 3564 2 Federal StreetFax: +1 978 262 3499 Billerica, MA 01821 http://www.silverstream.com On Saturday Dec 9, 2000, Jacob Nikom wrote: > For the last 3 days it was about 20 messages on the java-linux list. > Two or three of them (including responses) were generic. It is not > huge traffic, comparing with one couple of years ago. > > I would be more concern that we have not enough questions. If this > is the case, the mailing list is dying. > > Do you think there is real abuse of the list? > > Regards, > > Jacob Nikom > > Matt Welsh wrote: > > > In recent weeks we have seen a large number of non-Linux related Java > > questions on this list. While I suppose there is little that can be done > > to prevent that, I'd like to propose that replies to those questions > > be sent directly to the person asking, rather than the whole list. > > > > There are a few people on the list who make a point to reply to every > > non-Linux-related question. While I'm glad that they are willing to > > provide that support, I think it would be best not to send the replies > > to the whole list. The large amount of non-Linux traffic renders the > > 'java-linux' list almost ineffective for discussions about Java on Linux. > > If we can throttle those discussions I think the list would clear up and > > be more effective for its original purpose. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Matt Welsh, UC Berkeley > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request: No more generic Java questions
I agree with Matt, on the purely selfish reasons. There are lots of places to ask generic questions, and the main ones I know of that Linux-specific questions get dealt with are this one (focussed on Sun's version of Java) and the java-discuss list hosted for GCJ/GCC users/developers/... (clearly not Sun's implementation of that ISO spec :-). Though I agree it's good to have confirmation that this list is alive. I think it would be 100% fine to see discussions here that provide real solutions which happen to involve Linux native code ... say, some networking classes that provide real access to routing information. It could provide lists of all the "local" network interfaces a host has, and ways to monitor their state change (as an example). Yes, that example would relate to at least one of the threads Matt listed below. Existence of working solutions that are Linux-specific has already gotten Sun to start JCP processes in at least one are (USB), for those who care about that stuff. And for anyone working in open source, it doesn't necessarily matter whether such "vendor legislated" APIs ever happen ... it can even be irrelevant if you don't want to assign the IP to Sun. - Dave - Original Message - From: Matt Welsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 6:15 PM Subject: Re: Request: No more generic Java questions > > I am also counting all of the responses. The following threads in the > last month or so I consider unrelated to Linux: > > UnknownHostException (3 messages) > follow-up Re: UnknownHostException (2 messages) > Is it possible to start Java application ... (2 messages) > Is there a solution? (1 message) > Starting java (1 message) > Template makefile for Java? (2 messages) > How to print String to default Printer, Help (2 messages) > Pablo- configurar imap (2 messages) > localhost ip (12 messages) > > The list goes on. In fact the majority of messages to this list have > nothing to do with Linux. All I am asking is for people not to send > replies to these "generic" questions to the entire list; we don't need > to see those responses since they aren't relevant. > > Matt Welsh > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request: No more generic Java questions
Matt Welsh wrote: > I am also counting all of the responses. The following threads in the > last month or so I consider unrelated to Linux: Matt, I think you're giving short shrift to those who are moving to Linux from doing Java on other platforms - a prime audience for this list. A few of the questions you mention are clearly generic, but many of them reflect beginners problems with using Linux, the relationship of Linux configuration to Java behavior, and Linux-type development environments. This group is obviously not a Linux newbie forum, but answering such questions with helpful pointers will help get more people productively using Linux for Java work. If you remove the Java-related questions for which the answers aren't the same for Linux as for Windows, I think you'll see your list get much shorter. Nathan > > > UnknownHostException (3 messages) > follow-up Re: UnknownHostException (2 messages) > Is it possible to start Java application ... (2 messages) > Is there a solution? (1 message) > Starting java (1 message) > Template makefile for Java? (2 messages) > How to print String to default Printer, Help (2 messages) > Pablo- configurar imap (2 messages) > localhost ip (12 messages) > > The list goes on. In fact the majority of messages to this list have > nothing to do with Linux. All I am asking is for people not to send > replies to these "generic" questions to the entire list; we don't need > to see those responses since they aren't relevant. > > Matt Welsh > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2 out 3 jvms don't work properly on my system
Hi all, I've come across a situation that's very puzzling to me. I've been trying jBoss on a couple of my Linux systems ( RH 6.2 + various updates ). When I run jBoss with IBM's JDK 1.3 is seems to run fine ( no long term testing done yet ), but both the Sun and Blackdown JDK 1.3 fail to startup jBoss. I've tried various settings of memory and jit with no substantial effect ( -Xms and -Xmx would change how far along things got according to -verbose, but the jvm would always get to a point where loading just stops ). One of the systems in question is UP, AMD K6-2, 320Meg RAM. The other is SMP, 2x333Mhz PII, 128 Meg RAM. Having never seen anything like this I was hoping someone here might have suggestions as to how to isolate what the problem is. Thanks, ~Rob -- wYRd.:|:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:|:.prohibitions void where offered de recta non tolerandum sunt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
