Re: Java Project Opinions?

1998-05-21 Thread Sean Chen

On Wed, 20 May 1998, Maksim Lin wrote:

> The story is that as a part of my Masters thesis, I need to do a "proof
> of concept" Java project, using a OO distributed developpment
> methodology based on open-source development model.  Now one of the
> ideas I have for the project, is creating a pure java awt
> implementation, using X directly(+ maybe a bit of GTK for
> non-lightweight components), based on XTC (pure java X library).

It's a good project, so good that I'm doing it already =)  I'm
implementing an AWT peer library using XTC.

My main goal is to get enough to run Swing and reduce the memory footprint
from Motif bloat.

. . . Sean.





Re: Java Project Opinions?

1998-05-21 Thread Sean Chen

On Fri, 22 May 1998, Maksim Lin wrote:

> Sorry everyone, I should have included the url to XTC, so that anyone
> interested can grap it and have a look.  Note that there isn't a whole
> lot a documentation and what there is in a text file mixed in with the
> src.  
> 
> http://www.cs.umb.edu/~eugene/XTC/

Since there seems to be some interest, you can get a sneak peak at the XTC
awt library at:

ftp://falconwing.com/pub/XTC/xtc.awt.tar.gz

It contains a newer version of XTC than the one at Eugene's site.  There
isn't much functionality, but the Scribble application from the Java
Nutshell handbook works.  So far, Panel, Graphics, Font, and the mouse
events are the only things working.

If you run it under kaffe, you get a memory footprint of 6 megs vs 22
with the jdk.

Anybody want to pitch in? =)

. . . Sean.





Re: Difficulty installing kaffe

1998-05-25 Thread Sean Chen

On Sat, 23 May 1998, Roger Hill wrote:

> I have just gone through the Kaffe install, but every time I try anything
> (eg javac HelloWorldApp.java), I get:
> 
> [rhill@lappie test]$ javac HelloWorldApp.java
> java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: initializeSystemClass

You need a patch for kaffe.  Try looking through the kaffe mailing list
archives at http://rufus.w3.org/kaffe/

. . . Sean.





Re: Free javac?

1998-05-25 Thread Sean Chen

On Mon, 25 May 1998, Bernd Kreimeier wrote:
> 
> A transient (slightly off-topic) thought on the way from
> C++ to Java I was wondering whether there is an attempt
> to implement a free javac? 

There's guavac, which is a javac written in C++.  Then there's pizza, an
extended version of the Java language.  There's also Jump, another Java
variant with parameterized data types.  Then there's also another Java
variant being developed at MIT LCS, used by the software engineering
classes.

Of the four, only guavac is free afaik but it seems development has
stopped.  Cygnus is reportedly interested in developing a javac-frontend
to gcc.

. . . Sean.





Re: jdk 1.2

1998-05-25 Thread Sean Chen

On Mon, 25 May 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> will there be a jdk1.2 port in the near future (even for the betas)? I'd
> like to use collections and I'm not willing to switch to NT :-(

It is possible to use 1.2 collections with the jdk 1.1.  If you go to
http://java.sun.com, go into the InfoBus area and there will be a version
of 1.2 collections suitable for 1.1.  The only things you'll need to
change are the package names.

I don't believe 1.2 will be ported to Linux until after the official 1.2
jdk is released, since, (I'm guessing here), the source isn't released to
licensees until then.

. . . Sean.





Re: Survey, what tool do you use?

1998-06-20 Thread Sean Chen

On Thu, 18 Jun 1998, Sze Yuen Wong wrote:

> P.S. ok. So I think I should give up in finding an IDE. 

Well, XEmacs is as good as any for now.  But don't give up!  Contribute to
FreeBuilder!

. . . Sean.