Sun's Commitment to Port JDK 1.2 to Linux
I was excited to hear about Sun's commitment to porting JDK 1.2 to Linux (see http://www.javasoft.com/pr/1998/11/pr981102-01.html) and as new subscriber to this list, I'd be interested in reading any thread discussions that have already taken place on this topic. I'm especiallly curious about when this is likely to happen, and how this changes anything for the Blackdown Java-Linux porting project, if it does at all. If this is an old thread, can anybody tell me how to request an archive from this list server? If not, anybody care to comment now? Thanks, Tony -- Tony Pujals Mail: ObjectMedia, Inc. 1400 Coleman Avenue, Ste. A21 Santa Clara, CA 95050 Tel:(408) 235-8700 x101 Fax:(408) 235-8774 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:http://www.objectmedia.com Unite for Java - Join the Java Lobby Now! http://www.javalobby.org "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that that Swing"
Re: Sun's Commitment to Port JDK 1.2 to Linux
>There are actual engineers @ Sun who are writing code. We'd be nowhere near as >far along as we are without their help. > >It is my belief that the Linux port will be advertized along with the other >licensees ports on Sun's Java ports page. > >Steve > Awesome! Tony ------ Tony Pujals Mail: ObjectMedia, Inc. 1400 Coleman Avenue, Ste. A21 Santa Clara, CA 95050 Tel:(408) 235-8700 x101 Fax:(408) 235-8774 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:http://www.objectmedia.com Unite for Java - Join the Java Lobby Now! http://www.javalobby.org "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that that Swing"
Re: Improving Java/Linux support
I have to admit feeling excited but anxious about the 1.2 port. I'm forced to do my development under Windows right now because 1.2 isn't yet available for Linux. The lack of visibility on the porting process makes it easy to forget that the people doing the port are working very hard and not getting paid. But I suppose it would be nice to see the status updated periodically (realizing, of course, that this entails additional work). The lack of information is amazingly demoralizing. Also, if the Intel version is already ready (as the status message on the web site seems to imply--or rather, seemed to; I can't find it now), it would be nice to check it out, even if it's just alpha or beta at this point. In any case, you guys will be heroes when you release it. I'm really looking forward to it. Keep up the good work! Tony Nelson Minar wrote: > >Judging from the volume of "when will 1.2 be ready?" messages, it's > >clear that interest in the Blackdown work is reaching some sort of > >critical mass. > > With 1.1.7, Linux is either the best or second best Unix platform for > running Java. Solaris is obviously alright, but most of the other Java > ports (SGI, Digital Unix, etc) have really bad problems. The Blackdown > team has produced quality. Combine that with the general interest in > Linux and you can see why Java on Linux is so desired. Heck, we even > had one of Sun's big distributed Java gurus asking us when 1.2 would > be ported for Linux :-) > > >Perhaps when the dust settles from the 1.2 port, it might be possible > >to arrange more formal and detailed visibility into what work is > >being done, what's under consideration, what's of interest, and progress. > > I'd like to see more information about the porting process myself, but > that's asking the porting team to do even *more* work. The old rules > for Java made doing a Linux-style port awkward; things had to be > discussed in secret, code couldn't be released, etc. What's the impact > of the new community source licensing? Maybe we can open up the > porting process some? I haven't reviewed the licenses well enough. > > A second thing to watch is the growth of Japhar and Classpath. My > impression is that this code is quality, that we might soon see a > truly viable open source Java. Of course, I said that about Kaffe too, > but that's never quite come to fruition. > > Another interesting option is to see if we can get financial support > for the Linux porters. I was sort of hoping Sun would do this, by > donating some engineers' time, but maybe that's not come together. > Maybe some of the companies relying on Java/Linux could be convinced > to chip in some money? That would again put more responsibility on the > part of the porters, but in this case with a reward for doing it. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > . . . .. . . . http://www.media.mit.edu/~nelson/ -- --- Tony Pujals ObjectMedia, Inc. Tel:(408) 255-2700 x101 Fax:(408) 255-5553 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:http://www.objectmedia.com Unite for Java - Join the Java Lobby Now! http://www.javalobby.org "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that that Swing"
Re: Improving Java/Linux support
At 06:09 PM 2/12/99 +, you wrote: >Am I the only person on this list who *doesn't* want to help finish the port? >:-) Nope, me neither! There aren't enough hours in the day or enough days in the week. . . . My hat's off to the guys who are doing it, though -- they deserve a lot of credit! Tony ------ Tony Pujals ObjectMedia, Inc. Tel:(408) 255-2700x101 Fax:(408) 255-5553 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:http://www.objectmedia.com Unite for Java - Join the Java Lobby Now! http://www.javalobby.org "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that that Swing"
JDK 1.2 Snapshots???
Not long ago (not much more than a week ago), the web site had some information about the 1.2 port. Where did it go? If I recall correctly, it indicated that 1.2 was successfully running on Intel, but still needed testing. Is there something about the license with Sun that restricts us from being able to check out a current snapshot? I understand that the port may not be ready for prime time, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who urgently needs to get my hands on it... Outside of Sun explicitly forbidding it, I can't see any real good reasons for not letting people access what's been done by the porting team so far. (If this issue has already been discussed, then I apologize in advance for not researching the archives.) Sincerely, Tony ------ Tony Pujals ObjectMedia, Inc. Tel:(408) 255-2700x101 Fax:(408) 255-5553 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:http://www.objectmedia.com Unite for Java - Join the Java Lobby Now! http://www.javalobby.org "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that that Swing"
Re: JDK 1.2 Snapshots???
Ouch! ;-) (But I'd still like to know what happened to the web site information?) Tony At 10:14 AM 2/16/99 +, you wrote: >Tony Pujals wrote: > >> Not long ago (not much more than a week ago), the web site had some >> information about the 1.2 port. Where did it go?... >> >> (If this issue has already been discussed, then I apologize in advance for >> not researching the archives.) > >The issue has been discussed extensively... see the archives. Cardinal rule #1 >of laziness: if you're going to be lazy, it's wiser to pretend ignorance >than to >advertise it :-). > >Nathan > >- >This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. >http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ > > -- Tony Pujals ObjectMedia, Inc. Tel:(408) 255-2700x101 Fax:(408) 255-5553 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:http://www.objectmedia.com Unite for Java - Join the Java Lobby Now! http://www.javalobby.org "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that that Swing"
Re: Status pages
Thomas Down wrote: > > I haven't seen this mentioned on the list yet so... > > There are some details about how the Java 2 port is getting on with > passing the JCK online at: > > http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/jck-status.html > > This is just the information we want to see---many thanks to everyone in > the porting team. On a positive note, it looks like the ia32 port may > not be too far off passing the non-interactive stage of the JCK. > > Thanks again, > > Thomas > Well, it's about time! ;-) The page is a very welcome additon to the site (though it's a real crying shame to hear that the port has been running well since November, but nobody can take it for a test drive...). Tony begin: vcard fn: Tony Pujals n: Pujals;Tony org:ObjectMedia, Inc. adr:18661 Pring Court;;;Cupertino;CA;95014;USA email;internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work: 408-255-2700 x101 tel;fax:408-255-5553 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
