[JAWS-Users] Re: GAMES FOR THE BLIND

2007-05-28 Thread Shirley P. Rodriguez

Do you have anything that maybe when we are blue, we have some where or some 
one to talk too.  This would be greatly appreciated.  I have been blind for 
19 years and sometimes it can get real heavy, trying to learn all over 
again, this can   get real real hard.

Churl
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 Does anyone have the url for Jim Kitchen's site?
 Richard Justice
 www.blind-computing.com

 
 



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[JAWS-Users] Re: GAMES FOR THE BLIND

2007-05-28 Thread Bob

Although this is off topic for this list, I am going to suggest Joining 
For-The-People and or other  voice chat sites. And ask that any other 
responses be taken off list.  And the original poster can also contact me 
off list if she has any more questions. With joining  one of the chat sites. 
Thanks,  Bob Gilman. List Moderator.  And a Happy Memorial Day to all.
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Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 2:01 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: GAMES FOR THE BLIND



 Do you have anything that maybe when we are blue, we have some where or 
 some
 one to talk too.  This would be greatly appreciated.  I have been blind 
 for
 19 years and sometimes it can get real heavy, trying to learn all over
 again, this can   get real real hard.

 Churl
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 From: Ricque [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 4:04 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] GAMES FOR THE BLIND



 Does anyone have the url for Jim Kitchen's site?
 Richard Justice
 www.blind-computing.com

 




 

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[JAWS-Users] Re: GAMES FOR THE BLIND

2007-05-28 Thread David A Ferrin

Thank you Mr. Bob, good to hear from you again. I might also suggest the 
lady join

http://www.vipconduit.com

It is also a chat site for the blind and others to come together and make 
friends ETC.
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Although this is off topic for this list, I am going to suggest Joining
For-The-People and or other  voice chat sites. And ask that any other
responses be taken off list.  And the original poster can also contact me
off list if she has any more questions. With joining  one of the chat sites.
Thanks,  Bob Gilman. List Moderator.  And a Happy Memorial Day to all.
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From: Shirley P. Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 2:01 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: GAMES FOR THE BLIND



 Do you have anything that maybe when we are blue, we have some where or
 some
 one to talk too.  This would be greatly appreciated.  I have been blind
 for
 19 years and sometimes it can get real heavy, trying to learn all over
 again, this can   get real real hard.

 Churl
 - Original Message - 
 From: Ricque [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 4:04 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] GAMES FOR THE BLIND



 Does anyone have the url for Jim Kitchen's site?
 Richard Justice
 www.blind-computing.com

 




 

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[JAWS-Users] weird problem with jaws 7.1 and IE6 at work

2007-05-28 Thread Sherry Gomes

hello all,

A couple months ago, my work computer was upgraded to JAWS 8.  However, I
work in microsoft access all day long, and Jaws was not reading the fields,
and the braille display was not showing the information I needed to be able
to do my job effectively.  I asked the IT department to put me back to 7.1,
which had been working fine.  But since then, I've had the strangest
internet problem I've ever run across.  I only hope I can explain it
properly.

it's as if the way jaws reads links and text on a web page has been
completely turned around.  now if I am trying to read a line or more of
straight text, jaws and the braille display are showing it as if each word
is on one line.  I literally have to arrow down and down and down from word
to word, instead of jaws reading a line, or the braille display showing 40
cells of text.

For links, instead of ... how to describe this ... well, I often arrow
through links, instead of tabbing, until I am familiar with a web page,
because there is often important information in text above or below links.
So, I'm arrowing down through what should be a list of links, but now the
whole list is being shown horizontally across the braille display and jaws
is reading a series of links like they are all in one line, not one below
the other.  For example, I work at Guide Dogs for the Blind, and on our
intranet, we have links to the issues of our internal employee news letter.
Before the jaws upgrade and un-upgrade, the links would appear to me on the
braille display and by jaws reading like this:

January 2007
February 2007
March 2007

and so on.  Now they appear like this.

January 2007 February 2007 March 2007

A line of simple text might read like this.

A
line
of
simple
text
might
read
like
this


I usually have to go online everyday to look up information on rehab and
other blindness resources for people who are interested in getting a guide
dog but don't have the mobility or other skills yet needed.  This problem is
getting so annoying, I'm having to put people on hold and  ask a sighted
coworker to look up info on their computers or in a print resource book they
have.  And of course, there is all kinds of important information for
employees on our intra net.

So, if my description makes any sense, does anyone have any ideas about how
to resolve this?  Is it something IT will have to do, since I am not an
administrator for my computer at work?  I've tried comparing my home
internet settings in configuration manager and jaws verbosity and can't seem
to find something that isn't the same on both.

Sherry


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[JAWS-Users] Re: weird problem with jaws 7.1 and IE6 at work

2007-05-28 Thread Negoslav Sabev

Hello

I had the same problem with internet and jaws after downgrading from 8 to 
7.1. The way I solved this problem is completely uninstall all versions of 
jaws with all shared settings and install only the version you work with no 
problem. You should ask the administrators to do this for you,since you have 
no administrative rights.

Negoslav

hello all,

A couple months ago, my work computer was upgraded to JAWS 8.  However, I
work in microsoft access all day long, and Jaws was not reading the fields,
and the braille display was not showing the information I needed to be able
to do my job effectively.  I asked the IT department to put me back to 7.1,
which had been working fine.  But since then, I've had the strangest
internet problem I've ever run across.  I only hope I can explain it
properly.

it's as if the way jaws reads links and text on a web page has been
completely turned around.  now if I am trying to read a line or more of
straight text, jaws and the braille display are showing it as if each word
is on one line.  I literally have to arrow down and down and down from word
to word, instead of jaws reading a line, or the braille display showing 40
cells of text.

For links, instead of ... how to describe this ... well, I often arrow
through links, instead of tabbing, until I am familiar with a web page,
because there is often important information in text above or below links.
So, I'm arrowing down through what should be a list of links, but now the
whole list is being shown horizontally across the braille display and jaws
is reading a series of links like they are all in one line, not one below
the other.  For example, I work at Guide Dogs for the Blind, and on our
intranet, we have links to the issues of our internal employee news letter.
Before the jaws upgrade and un-upgrade, the links would appear to me on the
braille display and by jaws reading like this:

January 2007
February 2007
March 2007

and so on.  Now they appear like this.

January 2007 February 2007 March 2007

A line of simple text might read like this.

A
line
of
simple
text
might
read
like
this

I usually have to go online everyday to look up information on rehab and
other blindness resources for people who are interested in getting a guide
dog but don't have the mobility or other skills yet needed.  This problem is
getting so annoying, I'm having to put people on hold and  ask a sighted
coworker to look up info on their computers or in a print resource book they
have.  And of course, there is all kinds of important information for
employees on our intra net.

So, if my description makes any sense, does anyone have any ideas about how
to resolve this?  Is it something IT will have to do, since I am not an
administrator for my computer at work?  I've tried comparing my home
internet settings in configuration manager and jaws verbosity and can't seem
to find something that isn't the same on both.

Sherry 


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[JAWS-Users] Re: weird problem with jaws 7.1 and IE6 at work

2007-05-28 Thread Marilyn Walker

All I can say is that jaws 7 works better for a lot of people than does 7.1. 
marilyn 


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[JAWS-Users] Re: weird problem with jaws 7.1 and IE6 at work

2007-05-28 Thread David A Ferrin

Boy that's for sure, 7.0 was great. Now for me 8.0 is close but 7.0 was a 
fine version.
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All I can say is that jaws 7 works better for a lot of people than does 7.1.
marilyn





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[JAWS-Users] JAWS AND LOGITEK LASER KEYBOARDS

2007-05-28 Thread John Justice
Hi group:
I don't post much here because I find your discussions more interesting than 
anything I normally have to offer.  But, recently, more as a chance than by 
plan, I ended up buying a Logitech laser keyboard from my local Best Buys 
store.  I never expected any trouble but boy did I get it.  I'll explain in 
some detail but for the moment, know this.  If you want to use one of these 
wireless keyboards, you don't need the disk which accompanies the purchase in 
spite of everything the manufacturer tells you.  The keyboard works just fine 
without it.  But why do I need a laser keyboard, you might ask? My friends, 
this keyboard can move anywhere within 30 feet of the computer and still 
function just as if it was hard wired to the PC.  You can literally sit across 
the room and operate your computer.  Last night, just for fun, I stretched out 
on a lounge chair and rested the keyboard on my stomach.  After some 
experimentation as to exact location, I was able to use it quite easily.  For 
us, as blind computer operators, the advantages are in the fact that no 
extensive wiring is required.  Once the antenna has been installed, that's all 
the wiring needed.

SETTING UP THE LOGITECH WIRELESS 
KEYBOARD AND MOUSE:
CONTENTS OF SHIPPING CONTAINER:
Please check and note all of these items before you begin.  If anything is 
missing, return the unit immediately to the store.  There are 2 tampering seals 
on the front flap of the box.  If either or both of those seals are broken, do 
not purchase the unit.  It should be completely sealed at time of purchase.  
However, most stores will permit you to open the container to verify that all 
of the contents are present.  Nobody's perfect.  In order to open the box, the 
seals will have to be broken.  Unless there is something wrong with the 
contents of this container, please try to take that box as your purchase since 
other customers will have the same concern as you do about missing items or 
security.
The box should contain the following.
ONE WIRELESS KEYBOARD,
ONE WIRELESS MOUSE,
ONE ANTENNA ASSEMBLY,
ONE SOFTWARE CD,
2 SETS OF BATTERIES, DOUBLE AND TRIPLE-A,
INSTRUCTION SHEET:

INSTALLING THE ANTENNA:
This small device looks a lot like the antennas used in XM radio receivers.  It 
can rest comfortably on any flat surface although the designers recommend that 
you avoid placing the antenna on a metal surface.  That leaves the top of your 
tower out.  We used a small piece of Velcro and attached the flat side of the 
antenna to a convenient shelf.  There's a Connection  button on the front 
side of the antenna which you will need access to at times.  So wherever you 
install it, make it reachable.  There are 2 ways to attach the antenna to your 
PC.  You can use the 2 PS2 connectors which are provided and place them in the 
same positions as your keyboard and mouse.  The keyboard connector is fitted 
with an adapter and that makes it easy to determine which plug is which.  The 
second way to connect the antenna is with a USB port.  The adapter should be 
removed from the keyboard side of the cable, then the remaining USB jack should 
be fitted into any convenient port designed for that purpose.  In that case, 
the second connecting cable hangs free because it isn't needed.  If you use the 
USB option, just fold the second lead back and tape it into place out of the 
way.  Make sure that the antenna isn't blocked by any metallic objects like the 
rails on a shelf unit or the housing of your computer.  The best place for the 
antenna is higher than the computer itself.  This allows for a wider range of 
signal exchange between the antenna and the remote components.

POWERING THE REMOTE COMPONENTS:
Some components require batteries.  There are 2 which operate independently 
from the computer.  The mouse takes 2 double-A  batteries and the keyboard 
takes 2 triple-A batteries. both sets of batteries are provided by the 
manufacturer.  

INSERTING THE MOUSE BATTERIES:
There's a tiny RECESSED push button located at the thicker end of the mouse on 
the bottom.  If you press that sliding switch in toward the center of the 
mouse, a small door will pop open and that is where the two double-A  batteries 
are inserted. Examine the terminals or connectors inside the compartment 
carefully.  The batteries go in opposite directions so that they complete an 
in parallel  circuit.  But the compartment is reasonably accessible. If you 
hold the mouse with the Scrolling Wheel toward you, the left battery is 
inserted with the positive  pole going away from you.  The right hand battery 
is installed in exactly the opposite manner, with the negative  pole facing 
away from you.  Once the batteries are seated firmly, the door can be replaced 
and snapped down.  Always insert the rear edge of the battery door first.  Do 
not use excessive pressure.  The plastic is relatively thin.  

INSERTING THE BATTERIES INTO THE KEYBOARD:
The battery compartment on the keyboard is much 

[JAWS-Users] Re: weird problem with jaws 7.1 and IE6 at work

2007-05-28 Thread Sherry Gomes

but it worked perfectly well, in fact better in the database, than Jaws 7.0
till the upgrade and downgrade.  

Sherry
 

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All I can say is that jaws 7 works better for a lot of people than does 7.1.

marilyn 





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[JAWS-Users] Re: weird problem with jaws 7.1 and IE6 at work

2007-05-28 Thread Sherry Gomes

I had such bad luck with JAWS 8 on my home computer that I can't really say
I like it.  Sigh.  I wonder if the latest update would fix any of my
problems on the internet at home using JAWS 8 with the first patch, jaws
standard or classic or whatever they call the one that isn't pro.  

Sherry
 

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Boy that's for sure, 7.0 was great. Now for me 8.0 is close but 7.0 was a
fine version.
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All I can say is that jaws 7 works better for a lot of people than does 7.1.
marilyn







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[JAWS-Users] NIS2007 jaws 8

2007-05-28 Thread Whitefang
Hi List:

Does JAWS 8 work with Norton Internet Security 2007? If so, which does JAWS 8 
work better with, Norton Internet Security 2006 or Norton Internet Security 
2007?

Thank you all very much in advance for you assistance.

Wayne
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