[JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files

2007-01-05 Thread Sarah


My fault. I have both. tr JSInstall via the  link I posted in a  prior 
message, that is if it got here. lol. TC.

Sarah -

Thanks. There actually _is_ a JInstall, which I was able to locate
through
Google, but after reading a little about it, I figured out pretty
quickly
that either you'd made a mistake or that you have a very sick sense of
humor. _That_ code isn't something for the faint of heart; or even the
mildly adventuresome; to try to use! 

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From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 1:47 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files


I actually meant JSInstall. Sorry about that. but hear si the link.

http://www.accessibleprograms.com/js_install/js_install.htm
I sed it ot make an installer for a set of scripts aleardy so it
works just
fine. ou can't install sound files for your scripts though or maybe
you can.
I'm still learning how to work this.





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[JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files

2007-01-05 Thread Walt Smith


Sarah -

Thanks. There actually _is_ a JInstall, which I was able to locate through 
Google, but after reading a little about it, I figured out pretty quickly 
that either you'd made a mistake or that you have a very sick sense of 
humor. _That_ code isn't something for the faint of heart; or even the 
mildly adventuresome; to try to use! 


- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 1:47 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files


I actually meant JSInstall. Sorry about that. but hear si the link.

http://www.accessibleprograms.com/js_install/js_install.htm
I sed it ot make an installer for a set of scripts aleardy so it works just
fine. ou can't install sound files for your scripts though or maybe you can.
I'm still learning how to work this.


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[JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files

2007-01-05 Thread Sarah


I actually meant JSInstall. Sorry about that. but hear si the link.

http://www.accessibleprograms.com/js_install/js_install.htm
I sed it ot make an installer for a set of scripts aleardy so it works just 
fine. ou can't install sound files for your scripts though or maybe you can. 
I'm still learning how to work this.

What is JInstall?

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Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 4:32 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files


actualy j in stall will do all that for you. the folder of back ups
can be
anyware even on an external drive.





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[JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files

2007-01-05 Thread joe harcz


Again so sorry for this. I don't know what happened. But clearly this was 
not intended for this list.


I've got to look at some things here.

Sorry all...
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From: "joe harcz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:48 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files




I just had a thought Rita. I can help you in one way if you write me off 
list at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could take the comments you wish to 
leave and go up on the site and enter them for you.


In fact this might be a way that each of us can help with those who wish 
to comment but don't have access to computers at all or the wherewithal to 
use them.


Anyway I'd be happy to assist anyone that my moderate skills will allow 
for.


Hope this helps Rita.

Joe


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From: "Walt Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:41 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files




Donny and anyone else interested in this subject -

What follows is not trivial information and should be read completely 
before starting to manually move customized files from an older to a 
newer JAWS version. I realize that it's not going to make for the most 
exciting (and maybe not even the easiest) reading, but it's absolutely 
essential information and faioling to understand it and follow the 
instructions may result in major JAWS problems.


Let's begin by defining some terms:

Shared files - These are the files that are installed whenever you 
install a new version of JAWS. They are placed into a different folder 
than are the user files and should _never_ be changed or altered. 
Similarly, the contents of the shared files folder should never be 
changed in any way by either adding new (third party) files or by 
removing files you don't think you'll ever use. Doing either can break 
the installation or repair routines.


User files - These are any files you've changed using Script Manager, 
Keyboard Manager, Configuration Manager, etc.; as well as any third party 
files (files not supplied by Freedom Scientific). Any time you install 
third party files, you must place them into the user files folder.


Okay, let's find the two user files folders first:

Note: it may be helpful to you as you proceed if you have Windows 
Explorer configured to announce the full path whenever you change from 
one folder to another as you'll be doing below. This is set by way of 
Control Panel>Folder Options and is found under the View tab. The 
specific items are Display the Full Path in the Address Bar and Display 
the Full Path in the Title Bar. Both of these should be checked or 
indicated as "on."


1. Press Windows Key to get to the Start Menu.
2. Press the letter P to move to the Programs submenu.
3. Press the letter J to move to the version of JAWS you've been 
using--the one whose files you want to copy.
4. Press RIGHT ARROW twice until you hear "Explore My Settings" and press 
ENTER. This will open the user files folder for the source version of 
JAWS.
5. Now, repeat steps 1 through 4, except that in step 3, you want the 
version of JAWS you just installed--the version to which you want to copy 
the files.


Next, some general things to be aware of:

1. You should move any third party files of _any_ type (that is, any file 
extension) that you find in the source folder. Third party files are 
files that are _not_ part of the set of files that are supplied with the 
JAWS package. For example, Ad-Aware, Nero, etc.; that is, files that 
you've downloaded from somewhere else (like JFWlite.com) and installed 
yourself.
2. You are responsible for making any changes to JAWS-supplied scripts on 
your own. Even if you used the Merge tool, it doesn't update script 
files, so if you've changed something in Default.jss, Internet 
Explorer.jss, Outlook Express.jss, etc., you'll have to make those same 
changes all over again with the new versions of the same scripts. You 
should _never_, under any circumstances whatever, copy entire 
JAWS-supplied script files (files with an extension of .jkm, .jss, .jsb, 
.jsd, .jsh, or .jsm) from one JAWS version to another. Scripts are unique 
to each JAWS version and cannot be used across versions. As previously 
indicated, this may or may not be true for third party script files, but 
when FS releases a new version of JAWS, the scripts receive as much work 
and as many changes as any part of the program, particularly those 
scripts for major applications like Outlook and Outlook Express, Internet 
Explorer, Microsoft Word, Excel, etc. This same prohibition applies 
equally to configuration files (files with an extension of .jcf): these 
should _never_ be copied from an older version of JAWS to a newer one.
3. You must be aware that the names of some files have changed and that 
because of this, you must ren

[JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files

2007-01-05 Thread joe harcz


I just had a thought Rita. I can help you in one way if you write me off 
list at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could take the comments you wish to 
leave and go up on the site and enter them for you.


In fact this might be a way that each of us can help with those who wish to 
comment but don't have access to computers at all or the wherewithal to use 
them.


Anyway I'd be happy to assist anyone that my moderate skills will allow for.

Hope this helps Rita.

Joe


- Original Message - 
From: "Walt Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:41 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files




Donny and anyone else interested in this subject -

What follows is not trivial information and should be read completely 
before starting to manually move customized files from an older to a newer 
JAWS version. I realize that it's not going to make for the most exciting 
(and maybe not even the easiest) reading, but it's absolutely essential 
information and faioling to understand it and follow the instructions may 
result in major JAWS problems.


Let's begin by defining some terms:

Shared files - These are the files that are installed whenever you install 
a new version of JAWS. They are placed into a different folder than are 
the user files and should _never_ be changed or altered. Similarly, the 
contents of the shared files folder should never be changed in any way by 
either adding new (third party) files or by removing files you don't think 
you'll ever use. Doing either can break the installation or repair 
routines.


User files - These are any files you've changed using Script Manager, 
Keyboard Manager, Configuration Manager, etc.; as well as any third party 
files (files not supplied by Freedom Scientific). Any time you install 
third party files, you must place them into the user files folder.


Okay, let's find the two user files folders first:

Note: it may be helpful to you as you proceed if you have Windows Explorer 
configured to announce the full path whenever you change from one folder 
to another as you'll be doing below. This is set by way of Control 
Panel>Folder Options and is found under the View tab. The specific items 
are Display the Full Path in the Address Bar and Display the Full Path in 
the Title Bar. Both of these should be checked or indicated as "on."


1. Press Windows Key to get to the Start Menu.
2. Press the letter P to move to the Programs submenu.
3. Press the letter J to move to the version of JAWS you've been 
using--the one whose files you want to copy.
4. Press RIGHT ARROW twice until you hear "Explore My Settings" and press 
ENTER. This will open the user files folder for the source version of 
JAWS.
5. Now, repeat steps 1 through 4, except that in step 3, you want the 
version of JAWS you just installed--the version to which you want to copy 
the files.


Next, some general things to be aware of:

1. You should move any third party files of _any_ type (that is, any file 
extension) that you find in the source folder. Third party files are files 
that are _not_ part of the set of files that are supplied with the JAWS 
package. For example, Ad-Aware, Nero, etc.; that is, files that you've 
downloaded from somewhere else (like JFWlite.com) and installed yourself.
2. You are responsible for making any changes to JAWS-supplied scripts on 
your own. Even if you used the Merge tool, it doesn't update script files, 
so if you've changed something in Default.jss, Internet Explorer.jss, 
Outlook Express.jss, etc., you'll have to make those same changes all over 
again with the new versions of the same scripts. You should _never_, under 
any circumstances whatever, copy entire JAWS-supplied script files (files 
with an extension of .jkm, .jss, .jsb, .jsd, .jsh, or .jsm) from one JAWS 
version to another. Scripts are unique to each JAWS version and cannot be 
used across versions. As previously indicated, this may or may not be true 
for third party script files, but when FS releases a new version of JAWS, 
the scripts receive as much work and as many changes as any part of the 
program, particularly those scripts for major applications like Outlook 
and Outlook Express, Internet Explorer, Microsoft Word, Excel, etc. This 
same prohibition applies equally to configuration files (files with an 
extension of .jcf): these should _never_ be copied from an older version 
of JAWS to a newer one.
3. You must be aware that the names of some files have changed and that 
because of this, you must rename them if you copy them. For example, in 
JAWS 7.0, files for Outlook Express were named Outlook Express 5-6.*, but 
in 7.10, the name was changed to Outlook Express.*. Similarly, the 
Internet Explorer files names were also changed, but I think this took 
place between 6.20 and 7.0. In any case, the JAWS Merge tool does _not_ 
always catch these n

[JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files

2007-01-05 Thread Walt Smith


What is JInstall?

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From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 4:32 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files


actualy j in stall will do all that for you. the folder of back ups can be 
anyware even on an external drive.



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[JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files

2007-01-05 Thread Sarah


actualy j in stall will do all that for you. the folder of back ups can be 
anyware even on an external drive.

I suppose you could, but that'd involve more work setting up the path
within
the self-extracting .exe file. You could just ZIP up the files to be
moved,
then extract them to the user files folder in the newly installed
version,
but you'd have to know what the exact path is and to keep things as
simple
as possible, I deliberately didn't get into that issue. For anyone
who wants
to know, the exact path to all user files folders since JAWS 6.0 is:

C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Freedom
Scientific\JAWS\xxx\Settings\ENU

where xxx is the JAWS version, either 6.0, 6.10, 6.20, 7.0, 7.10, or
8.0.

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From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:46 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files


can you also creat a zp file and use jsx to make an exe so it will
install
and compile in to teh right version of jaws?





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[JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files

2007-01-05 Thread Walt Smith


I suppose you could, but that'd involve more work setting up the path within 
the self-extracting .exe file. You could just ZIP up the files to be moved, 
then extract them to the user files folder in the newly installed version, 
but you'd have to know what the exact path is and to keep things as simple 
as possible, I deliberately didn't get into that issue. For anyone who wants 
to know, the exact path to all user files folders since JAWS 6.0 is:


C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Freedom 
Scientific\JAWS\xxx\Settings\ENU


where xxx is the JAWS version, either 6.0, 6.10, 6.20, 7.0, 7.10, or 8.0.

- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:46 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files


can you also creat a zp file and use jsx to make an exe so it will install
and compile in to teh right version of jaws?


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[JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files

2007-01-05 Thread Sarah


can you also creat a zp file and use jsx to make an exe so it will install 
and compile in to teh right version of jaws?

Donny and anyone else interested in this subject -

What follows is not trivial information and should be read completely
before
starting to manually move customized files from an older to a newer
JAWS
version. I realize that it's not going to make for the most exciting
(and
maybe not even the easiest) reading, but it's absolutely essential
information and faioling to understand it and follow the instructions
may
result in major JAWS problems.

Let's begin by defining some terms:

Shared files - These are the files that are installed whenever you
install a
new version of JAWS. They are placed into a different folder than are
the
user files and should _never_ be changed or altered. Similarly, the
contents
of the shared files folder should never be changed in any way by
either
adding new (third party) files or by removing files you don't think
you'll
ever use. Doing either can break the installation or repair routines.

User files - These are any files you've changed using Script Manager,
Keyboard Manager, Configuration Manager, etc.; as well as any third
party
files (files not supplied by Freedom Scientific). Any time you
install third
party files, you must place them into the user files folder.

Okay, let's find the two user files folders first:

Note: it may be helpful to you as you proceed if you have Windows
Explorer
configured to announce the full path whenever you change from one
folder to
another as you'll be doing below. This is set by way of Control
Panel>Folder
Options and is found under the View tab. The specific items are
Display the
Full Path in the Address Bar and Display the Full Path in the Title
Bar.
Both of these should be checked or indicated as "on."

1. Press Windows Key to get to the Start Menu.
2. Press the letter P to move to the Programs submenu.
3. Press the letter J to move to the version of JAWS you've been
using--the
one whose files you want to copy.
4. Press RIGHT ARROW twice until you hear "Explore My Settings" and
press
ENTER. This will open the user files folder for the source version of
JAWS.
5. Now, repeat steps 1 through 4, except that in step 3, you want the
version of JAWS you just installed--the version to which you want to
copy
the files.

Next, some general things to be aware of:

1. You should move any third party files of _any_ type (that is, any
file
extension) that you find in the source folder. Third party files are
files
that are _not_ part of the set of files that are supplied with the
JAWS
package. For example, Ad-Aware, Nero, etc.; that is, files that you've
downloaded from somewhere else (like JFWlite.com) and installed
yourself.
2. You are responsible for making any changes to JAWS-supplied
scripts on
your own. Even if you used the Merge tool, it doesn't update script
files,
so if you've changed something in Default.jss, Internet Explorer.jss,
Outlook Express.jss, etc., you'll have to make those same changes all
over
again with the new versions of the same scripts. You should _never_,
under
any circumstances whatever, copy entire JAWS-supplied script files
(files
with an extension of .jkm, .jss, .jsb, .jsd, .jsh, or .jsm) from one
JAWS
version to another. Scripts are unique to each JAWS version and
cannot be
used across versions. As previously indicated, this may or may not be
true
for third party script files, but when FS releases a new version of
JAWS,
the scripts receive as much work and as many changes as any part of
the
program, particularly those scripts for major applications like
Outlook and
Outlook Express, Internet Explorer, Microsoft Word, Excel, etc. This
same
prohibition applies equally to configuration files (files with an
extension
of .jcf): these should _never_ be copied from an older version of
JAWS to a
newer one.
3. You must be aware that the names of some files have changed and
that
because of this, you must rename them if you copy them. For example,
in JAWS
7.0, files for Outlook Express were named Outlook Express 5-6.*, but
in
7.10, the name was changed to Outlook Express.*. Similarly, the
Internet
Explorer files names were also changed, but I think this took place
between
6.20 and 7.0. In any case, the JAWS Merge tool does _not_ always
catch these
name changes, so that's yet another good reason not to rely on it.
4. While you can move customized graphics files (with an extension of
.jgf)
from older versions of JAWS to newer versions, don't do this when the
new
version is 8.0. Beginning with 8.0, FS began to make some major
changes in
some applications (Outlook and Outlook Express, for example) in terms
of how
various characteristics (such as whether or not a message contains an
attachment) were recognized and announced and they're not relying on
graphics as much as they used to, so older .jgf files may not work as
they
once did. If you have customized graphics files for JAWS-supplied
applications, try re-creatin

[JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files

2007-01-05 Thread Walt Smith


Donny and anyone else interested in this subject -

What follows is not trivial information and should be read completely before 
starting to manually move customized files from an older to a newer JAWS 
version. I realize that it's not going to make for the most exciting (and 
maybe not even the easiest) reading, but it's absolutely essential 
information and faioling to understand it and follow the instructions may 
result in major JAWS problems.


Let's begin by defining some terms:

Shared files - These are the files that are installed whenever you install a 
new version of JAWS. They are placed into a different folder than are the 
user files and should _never_ be changed or altered. Similarly, the contents 
of the shared files folder should never be changed in any way by either 
adding new (third party) files or by removing files you don't think you'll 
ever use. Doing either can break the installation or repair routines.


User files - These are any files you've changed using Script Manager, 
Keyboard Manager, Configuration Manager, etc.; as well as any third party 
files (files not supplied by Freedom Scientific). Any time you install third 
party files, you must place them into the user files folder.


Okay, let's find the two user files folders first:

Note: it may be helpful to you as you proceed if you have Windows Explorer 
configured to announce the full path whenever you change from one folder to 
another as you'll be doing below. This is set by way of Control Panel>Folder 
Options and is found under the View tab. The specific items are Display the 
Full Path in the Address Bar and Display the Full Path in the Title Bar. 
Both of these should be checked or indicated as "on."


1. Press Windows Key to get to the Start Menu.
2. Press the letter P to move to the Programs submenu.
3. Press the letter J to move to the version of JAWS you've been using--the 
one whose files you want to copy.
4. Press RIGHT ARROW twice until you hear "Explore My Settings" and press 
ENTER. This will open the user files folder for the source version of JAWS.
5. Now, repeat steps 1 through 4, except that in step 3, you want the 
version of JAWS you just installed--the version to which you want to copy 
the files.


Next, some general things to be aware of:

1. You should move any third party files of _any_ type (that is, any file 
extension) that you find in the source folder. Third party files are files 
that are _not_ part of the set of files that are supplied with the JAWS 
package. For example, Ad-Aware, Nero, etc.; that is, files that you've 
downloaded from somewhere else (like JFWlite.com) and installed yourself.
2. You are responsible for making any changes to JAWS-supplied scripts on 
your own. Even if you used the Merge tool, it doesn't update script files, 
so if you've changed something in Default.jss, Internet Explorer.jss, 
Outlook Express.jss, etc., you'll have to make those same changes all over 
again with the new versions of the same scripts. You should _never_, under 
any circumstances whatever, copy entire JAWS-supplied script files (files 
with an extension of .jkm, .jss, .jsb, .jsd, .jsh, or .jsm) from one JAWS 
version to another. Scripts are unique to each JAWS version and cannot be 
used across versions. As previously indicated, this may or may not be true 
for third party script files, but when FS releases a new version of JAWS, 
the scripts receive as much work and as many changes as any part of the 
program, particularly those scripts for major applications like Outlook and 
Outlook Express, Internet Explorer, Microsoft Word, Excel, etc. This same 
prohibition applies equally to configuration files (files with an extension 
of .jcf): these should _never_ be copied from an older version of JAWS to a 
newer one.
3. You must be aware that the names of some files have changed and that 
because of this, you must rename them if you copy them. For example, in JAWS 
7.0, files for Outlook Express were named Outlook Express 5-6.*, but in 
7.10, the name was changed to Outlook Express.*. Similarly, the Internet 
Explorer files names were also changed, but I think this took place between 
6.20 and 7.0. In any case, the JAWS Merge tool does _not_ always catch these 
name changes, so that's yet another good reason not to rely on it.
4. While you can move customized graphics files (with an extension of .jgf) 
from older versions of JAWS to newer versions, don't do this when the new 
version is 8.0. Beginning with 8.0, FS began to make some major changes in 
some applications (Outlook and Outlook Express, for example) in terms of how 
various characteristics (such as whether or not a message contains an 
attachment) were recognized and announced and they're not relying on 
graphics as much as they used to, so older .jgf files may not work as they 
once did. If you have customized graphics files for JAWS-supplied 
applications, try re-creating the graphics labels from the beginning if 
you're working wi

[JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files

2007-01-04 Thread Walt Smith


Well, not quite so fast there, lady!  You can't "just copy" script files, 
for example. I'll respond to Donny's specific question in another message.


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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:26 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files


just copy them like you copy anything else..he told you the file extensions
so just use your arrow keys to locate them and hold your shift down and
arrow to them then copy to clipboard and paste them in the other version of
jaws it's really easy and the copying thingy works like you normally do to
copy other stuff..

Hailley


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[JAWS-Users] Re: Copying JAWS Files

2007-01-04 Thread one foxy lady


just copy them like you copy anything else..he told you the file extensions 
so just use your arrow keys to locate them and hold your shift down and 
arrow to them then copy to clipboard and paste them in the other version of 
jaws it's really easy and the copying thingy works like you normally do to 
copy other stuff..


Hailley

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From: "Donnie Parrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "JAWS-Users" 
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:44 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Copying JAWS Files




Hey Walt,

Could you please let me know how to copy and transfer my JAWS settings 
from 7.0 to 7.1?  I need to
know how to find the changes that I made in 7.0 so I can transfer all of 
those changes to 7.1.  I
guess I could just go ahead and use the Merge feature...but, you know how 
that goes.  Ha ha.  Thanks

again for all of your help.

See ya,
Scooter



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