[JAWS-Users] FaceBook Chat

2012-01-26 Thread Kuenga Chhoegyel
Hello, 

Some of the friends recommended AIM. I installed and tried to use. 

It asks me user name and password. 

Do I need to enter Facebook user name and pass word or a create a separate
one. 

Looking forward to hearing soon. 

 

  Kuenga Chhoegyel
National Institute for the Visually Impaired, 
Khaling, 
Post Box: 42003
Bhutan. 
Mobile: +(975)17684860
e-mail: kuengachhoeg...@druknet.bt
kuengachhoeg...@gmail.com
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Re: [JAWS-Users] scripting

2012-01-26 Thread tim
They may of use to, but traffic on the script list tells different 
story. Because they are finding that a lot of things are either used 
different or deprecated, meaning no longer there.
If you do come across a script that won't compile. Try looking for 
what the change is and what the new instance is used. Nothing stays 
the same and change just makes you think.


At 12:36 AM 1/26/2012, you wrote:

Hi,

Yes, the examples from that book will still compile.

FS goes to a lot of trouble to make their scripting,  other features,
backward compatible.

In some more complex scripts, changes have been required between JAWS
versions, but by the time you can write scripts of that kind, handling the
changes is not an issue.

For anyone who runs into compile errors they can not resolve, then on the
JAWS scripting list, post the query with a copy of the script or function
that is causing the problem, along with a copy of the error message the
compiler gave,  someone may be able to help...

Regards,
Paul from Australia

- Original Message -
From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net
The thing I'd wonder about is that if one went by info based on Jaws 6, will
it even compile any more using something newer? I tried to follow those
lessons on Main Menu from Jim Snowbarger, and ran into compile errors
quickly, and that may have been a couple years ago.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] FaceBook Chat

2012-01-26 Thread tim

you need a AIM account.

At 02:47 AM 1/26/2012, you wrote:

Hello,

Some of the friends recommended AIM. I installed and tried to use.

It asks me user name and password.

Do I need to enter Facebook user name and pass word or a create a separate
one.

Looking forward to hearing soon.



  Kuenga Chhoegyel
National Institute for the Visually Impaired,
Khaling,
Post Box: 42003
Bhutan.
Mobile: +(975)17684860
e-mail: kuengachhoeg...@druknet.bt
kuengachhoeg...@gmail.com
kuenga_chhoeg...@yahoo.com
MSN: chhoegyelkue...@hotmail.com
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Scan to text?

2012-01-26 Thread jerry martin
Regarding scanning to text, I have MS Word 2007.  I use JAWS version 11 with 
Windows Vista.  How would I go about finding the OCR in my version of Wrod? 
Thanks.  Jerry
- Original Message - 
From: rich rcha...@bellsouth.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scan to text?


I have Text Cloner, Could I somehow use it to read an e mail that is an 
image?
I wouldn't know how to get Text cloner to view the image since it   works 
from the printer/scanner.


Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Rossi d...@andrew.cmu.edu

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scan to text?


They can scan the document and send the image file to you.  If you have 
an older version of Microsoft Office you can do the OCR from within Word. 
If you have a newer version of Microsoft Office you can use Microsoft 
OneNote to do the OCR.


If you have neither, but have JAWS 13, you can try the Convenient OCR 
package for JAWS.


If you have none of the above, you can try submitting the image to one of 
the free on-line OCR engines.


--
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel: (412) 268-9081

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Re: [JAWS-Users] FaceBook Chat

2012-01-26 Thread Hamit Campos
If you are trying to add your facebook account to it, then yes it's asking
for your face book ones. Then you'll have to give it permission to do it.

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kuenga
Chhoegyel
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 2:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] FaceBook Chat

Hello, 

Some of the friends recommended AIM. I installed and tried to use. 

It asks me user name and password. 

Do I need to enter Facebook user name and pass word or a create a separate
one. 

Looking forward to hearing soon. 

 

  Kuenga Chhoegyel
National Institute for the Visually Impaired, Khaling, Post Box: 42003
Bhutan. 
Mobile: +(975)17684860
e-mail: kuengachhoeg...@druknet.bt
kuengachhoeg...@gmail.com
kuenga_chhoeg...@yahoo.com
MSN: chhoegyelkue...@hotmail.com
Skype: kuenga.chhoegyel

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Re: [JAWS-Users] FaceBook Chat

2012-01-26 Thread Flor Lynch
Think you need to first set up an AIM account when AIM is installed, 
though. A username and password are required for the AIM account to 
work. (This is quite standard.)


- Original Message - 
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FaceBook Chat


If you are trying to add your facebook account to it, then yes it's 
asking
for your face book ones. Then you'll have to give it permission to do 
it.


-Original Message-

From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com

[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kuenga
Chhoegyel
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 2:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] FaceBook Chat

   Hello,

Some of the friends recommended AIM. I installed and tried to use.

It asks me user name and password.

Do I need to enter Facebook user name and pass word or a create a 
separate

one.

Looking forward to hearing soon.



 Kuenga Chhoegyel
National Institute for the Visually Impaired, Khaling, Post Box: 42003
Bhutan.
Mobile: +(975)17684860
e-mail: kuengachhoeg...@druknet.bt
   kuengachhoeg...@gmail.com
   kuenga_chhoeg...@yahoo.com
MSN: chhoegyelkue...@hotmail.com
Skype: kuenga.chhoegyel

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Re: [JAWS-Users] FaceBook Chat

2012-01-26 Thread Hamit Campos
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. That's true, but you do that before you
download it.

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FaceBook Chat

Think you need to first set up an AIM account when AIM is installed, though.
A username and password are required for the AIM account to work. (This is
quite standard.)

- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FaceBook Chat


 If you are trying to add your facebook account to it, then yes it's 
 asking
 for your face book ones. Then you'll have to give it permission to do 
 it.

 -Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kuenga
 Chhoegyel
 Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 2:48 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] FaceBook Chat

Hello,

 Some of the friends recommended AIM. I installed and tried to use.

 It asks me user name and password.

 Do I need to enter Facebook user name and pass word or a create a 
 separate
 one.

 Looking forward to hearing soon.



  Kuenga Chhoegyel
 National Institute for the Visually Impaired, Khaling, Post Box: 42003
 Bhutan.
 Mobile: +(975)17684860
 e-mail: kuengachhoeg...@druknet.bt
kuengachhoeg...@gmail.com
kuenga_chhoeg...@yahoo.com
 MSN: chhoegyelkue...@hotmail.com
 Skype: kuenga.chhoegyel

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[JAWS-Users] daily tip

2012-01-26 Thread David Ferrin
Daily Tip:
Word: Adjust Line Spacing For Entire Document
 
The line spacing between paragraphs is much bigger in Word 2007 and 2010
than in Word 2003. It's 1.0 line spacing (without a space between
paragraphs) in Word 2003, but 1.15 line spacing and 10 points after a
paragraph in Word 2007 and 2010. To change line spacing for an entire
document, select the text you'd like to change. Next, click the Line And
Paragraph Spacing button in the Paragraph group of the Home tab. Choose the
line spaces you'd like to see in that section of the document. You can also
change spaces between paragraphs, here.
 
David Ferrin
http://www.jaws-users.com
 
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[JAWS-Users] Disk Defragmentation

2012-01-26 Thread jerry martin
To All Listers:

I am trying to do a dis defragmentation on my external hard drive.  Using 
Windows Vista with JAWS version 11, I go into the Disk Defragmentation 
properties and the computer asks me to select the drives I want defragmented.  
I select the drive, and then it keeps asking me to select the drive to be 
defragmented.  And when I finally got to the defragment button, I press the 
spacebar and it takes me back to the choosing the drive screen.  What am I 
doing wrong?!  Thanks.  Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

2012-01-26 Thread Miriam Vieni
It seems to me that in the good old days Jaws 10 and before, I had jaws
settings which allowed me to hear full punctuation in word and no
punctuation when I read emails or articles from the web.  I was working in
those days and writing adoption home study reports and I needed to hear all
that punctuation, but I didn't need to hear it if I was reading an article
or an email.  Now, it seems that even if punctuation is set to none, I
still hear it when reading emails and articles from the web.  Is this
everyone's experience?  Am I doing tomsething wrong?

Miriam 


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[JAWS-Users] For those wanting to leave google search engine, here is a great choice

2012-01-26 Thread Dujari, Prateek
I'm sure there are many others like me who want to stop using the Google search 
engine, even the accessible google site. the reasons can be various. so if you 
missed the Serotek Podcast this week try out and adopt  the following search 
engine:

www.duckduckgo.com

very clean, very effective (surely no less effective than google, much less 
data mining on you, and use the same alphanumeric syntax in the edit field to 
sharpen and narrow your searches if you want. And totally accessible.  It does 
not force their idea on what your search terms should be as you type them in.  
As in google, h for heading hops u from search result to search result. a

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[JAWS-Users] How to convert PDF to word or txt when the PDF has a security password?

2012-01-26 Thread Dujari, Prateek
Hello.

I installed Sound Forge from Sony Creative software.  I downloaded the user's 
manual as a PDF. I can open the PDF just fine using Acrobat reader.  However 
all 300 pages or so of the manual are pasted in the PDF file as a graphic so I 
can't the content using Adobe acrobat reader. Oh and when I open the Pdf 
document in Acrobat reader it doesn't ask me for any password or anything.

Now to read the Pdf I use PDF Converter Professional from Scan Soft. this 
software converts the Pdf to MS word. It works like a charm for any such Pdf 
document where the content is pasted as graphic in the Pdf file. the problem is 
when I start the using Pdf converter professional, a window pops up asking for 
a password and saying it's a secured PDF document.  I'm like, what the heck... 
why does a Pdf manual for a software have to be like this. Anyway, I don't have 
any password for the manual. If I ignore and just hit ok my PDF pro converter 
software seems to begin converting the Pdf , takes like 10min for the 300 plus 
pages, opens up converted MS Word document and hangs. I can't do anything with 
that word document. Things hang, Jaws becomes unresponsive and my out is to 
alt- F4 everything to have JAWS talk again.

this behavior is repeatable and consistent on 2 diff PCs both running Win7 and 
latest JFW13.  Seems this password window at the beginning of the conversion is 
the problem because I never have this problem on any other PDF.

solution ideas?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Scan to text?

2012-01-26 Thread Rich Hamel

Thanks, I'll give it a shot.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scan to text?


I have not used Textcloner personally but from what I have read about 
it, it is just an accessible ocr package that is not self-voicing 
like the $$$ packages but allows you to use your screenreader for speech.


Check the file menu if it has an Open entry or just try a

ctrl+o

I am pretty sure it will allow you to open some image formats at 
least and then run ocr on them.


When an ocr program works with the scanner, the scanner takes a 
picture of the print material you put on it and then saves the 
picture as an image file that your text recognition program - Text 
Cloner in your case - works its magic on, i.e. performs the optical 
character recognition. When you feed it an image file, you just 
eliminate the step of the scanner's taking the picture and sending 
the saved image to Text Cloner.


I hope you can get it to work. Whatw format is your image file in?

Take care and good luck reading your letter!

Doris




At 09:47 PM 1/25/2012 -0500, you wrote:
I have Text Cloner, Could I somehow use it to read an e mail that 
is an image?
I wouldn't know how to get Text cloner to view the image since 
it   works from the printer/scanner.


Rich
- Original Message - From: Dan Rossi d...@andrew.cmu.edu
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Scan to text?


They can scan the document and send the image file to you.  If you 
have an older version of Microsoft Office you can do the OCR from 
within Word.  If you have a newer version of Microsoft Office you 
can use Microsoft OneNote to do the OCR.


If you have neither, but have JAWS 13, you can try the Convenient 
OCR package for JAWS.


If you have none of the above, you can try submitting the image to 
one of the free on-line OCR engines.


--
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel: (412) 268-9081

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Re: [JAWS-Users] For those wanting to leave google search engine, here is a great choice

2012-01-26 Thread Misty Dawn Bradley

Hi,
I did not know about this search engine, but I will check it out!
I have been using
www.ixquick.com
and it seems to be accessible also and has a lot of privacy features, such 
as the fact that it does not record your IP address when you search and does 
not store your searches. You can also choose to view the websites in the 
search results with Ixquick's proxy.
I have heard that Google is going to start searching your email too if you 
have G-mail, so I am starting to look for another accessible email provider 
my self, preferably one that can work through Outlook Express.


Thanks,

Misty
- Original Message - 
From: Dujari, Prateek prateek.duj...@intel.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:28 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] For those wanting to leave google search engine, here 
is a great choice



I'm sure there are many others like me who want to stop using the Google 
search engine, even the accessible google site. the reasons can be 
various. so if you missed the Serotek Podcast this week try out and adopt 
the following search engine:


www.duckduckgo.com

very clean, very effective (surely no less effective than google, much 
less data mining on you, and use the same alphanumeric syntax in the edit 
field to sharpen and narrow your searches if you want. And totally 
accessible.  It does not force their idea on what your search terms should 
be as you type them in.  As in google, h for heading hops u from search 
result to search result. a


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[JAWS-Users] i e 8

2012-01-26 Thread Marilyn Walker
Hi, how can I figure out whether or not i am using i e 7 or 8?  Marilyn

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Re: [JAWS-Users] i e 8

2012-01-26 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
hit ALT-H for help, and arrow down to About Internet Explorer and hit
ENTER.
Andy


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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn
Walker
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] i e 8

Hi, how can I figure out whether or not i am using i e 7 or 8?  Marilyn

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Re: [JAWS-Users] i e 8

2012-01-26 Thread angelina stabile
I think you open inter net explorer, you hit insert v and it will tell you 
the version.
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] i e 8



Hi, how can I figure out whether or not i am using i e 7 or 8?  Marilyn

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Re: [JAWS-Users] i e 8

2012-01-26 Thread RJ
Open the internet Alt + h for help. arrow to about and it should tell you. 
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From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:08 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] i e 8



Hi, how can I figure out whether or not i am using i e 7 or 8?  Marilyn

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Re: [JAWS-Users] i e 8

2012-01-26 Thread Kimsan
CTRL jaws key V will also do the same.

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of RJ
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] i e 8

Open the internet Alt + h for help. arrow to about and it should tell you. 
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From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:08 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] i e 8


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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to convert PDF to word or txt when the PDF has a security password?

2012-01-26 Thread jerry martin

Pratigue:

I can't answer any of the questions regarding the software you use, but I 
would be willing to bet that the need for a password to open a PDF file 
would be due to copyright laws and all of that.  This is, mind you, just a 
thought.


Stay sane.

Jerry
- Original Message - 
From: Dujari, Prateek prateek.duj...@intel.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:39 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to convert PDF to word or txt when the PDF has a 
security password?




Hello.

I installed Sound Forge from Sony Creative software.  I downloaded the 
user's manual as a PDF. I can open the PDF just fine using Acrobat reader. 
However all 300 pages or so of the manual are pasted in the PDF file as a 
graphic so I can't the content using Adobe acrobat reader. Oh and when I 
open the Pdf document in Acrobat reader it doesn't ask me for any password 
or anything.


Now to read the Pdf I use PDF Converter Professional from Scan Soft. this 
software converts the Pdf to MS word. It works like a charm for any such 
Pdf document where the content is pasted as graphic in the Pdf file. the 
problem is when I start the using Pdf converter professional, a window 
pops up asking for a password and saying it's a secured PDF document.  I'm 
like, what the heck... why does a Pdf manual for a software have to be 
like this. Anyway, I don't have any password for the manual. If I ignore 
and just hit ok my PDF pro converter software seems to begin converting 
the Pdf , takes like 10min for the 300 plus pages, opens up converted MS 
Word document and hangs. I can't do anything with that word document. 
Things hang, Jaws becomes unresponsive and my out is to alt- F4 everything 
to have JAWS talk again.


this behavior is repeatable and consistent on 2 diff PCs both running Win7 
and latest JFW13.  Seems this password window at the beginning of the 
conversion is the problem because I never have this problem on any other 
PDF.


solution ideas?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] i e 8

2012-01-26 Thread Marilyn Walker
THanks, Andy:  I'm using  ie 8 so I guess MS has not yet auto updated to v 8 
for xp.  marilyn
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From: Baracco, Andrew W andrew.bara...@va.gov
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] i e 8


: hit ALT-H for help, and arrow down to About Internet Explorer and hit
: ENTER.
: Andy
:
:
: -Original Message-
: From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
: [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn
: Walker
: Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:09 PM
: To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
: Subject: [JAWS-Users] i e 8
:
: Hi, how can I figure out whether or not i am using i e 7 or 8?  Marilyn
:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] i e 8

2012-01-26 Thread Marilyn Walker
Oops, I meant I'm using v 7. m
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] i e 8


: THanks, Andy:  I'm using  ie 8 so I guess MS has not yet auto updated to v 
8
: for xp.  marilyn
: - Original Message - 
: From: Baracco, Andrew W andrew.bara...@va.gov
: To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I e 8

2012-01-26 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
I found to my surprise that we are still using IE 7. Just goes to show
how far behind the times the government is.  in fact, we are still using
Windows XP.
Andy


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Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:42 PM
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THanks, Andy:  I'm using  ie 8 so I guess MS has not yet auto updated to
v 8 for xp.  marilyn
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

2012-01-26 Thread Joni Colver
Miriam, you should be able to set punctuation to some, most, all or none 
through the Quick Settings in JAWS 13.


Open this with the insert key and v.  When it opens you will be in the edit 
box.  In the edit box start typing the word punctuation.  When JAWS says 
punctuation, arrow down once.  You can cycle through the various punctuation 
levels by hitting the spacebar.  When you get the choice you want, then hit 
the tab key to okay and hit enter.  You should be able to do this in any 
program you have open.  I have not paid much attention to punctuation on my 
personal computer, so I don't know how reliable JAWS is once this setting is 
changed, but that is how to change it in any given program.


Joni

-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:27 AM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

It seems to me that in the good old days Jaws 10 and before, I had jaws
settings which allowed me to hear full punctuation in word and no
punctuation when I read emails or articles from the web.  I was working in
those days and writing adoption home study reports and I needed to hear all
that punctuation, but I didn't need to hear it if I was reading an article
or an email.  Now, it seems that even if punctuation is set to none, I
still hear it when reading emails and articles from the web.  Is this
everyone's experience?  Am I doing tomsething wrong?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

2012-01-26 Thread Miriam Vieni
Joni,

Thanks so much.  I really appreciate this.  I just did it with my email and
it worked beautifully.

Miriam 

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Miriam, you should be able to set punctuation to some, most, all or none
through the Quick Settings in JAWS 13.

Open this with the insert key and v.  When it opens you will be in the edit
box.  In the edit box start typing the word punctuation.  When JAWS says
punctuation, arrow down once.  You can cycle through the various punctuation
levels by hitting the spacebar.  When you get the choice you want, then hit
the tab key to okay and hit enter.  You should be able to do this in any
program you have open.  I have not paid much attention to punctuation on my
personal computer, so I don't know how reliable JAWS is once this setting is
changed, but that is how to change it in any given program.

Joni

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:27 AM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

It seems to me that in the good old days Jaws 10 and before, I had jaws
settings which allowed me to hear full punctuation in word and no
punctuation when I read emails or articles from the web.  I was working in
those days and writing adoption home study reports and I needed to hear all
that punctuation, but I didn't need to hear it if I was reading an article
or an email.  Now, it seems that even if punctuation is set to none, I
still hear it when reading emails and articles from the web.  Is this
everyone's experience?  Am I doing tomsething wrong?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

2012-01-26 Thread Miriam Vieni
Ah, but the setting doesn't remain.  It was fine when I made it and read
your email.  But when I came back to the email, the punctuation was back.

Miriam 

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Miriam, you should be able to set punctuation to some, most, all or none
through the Quick Settings in JAWS 13.

Open this with the insert key and v.  When it opens you will be in the edit
box.  In the edit box start typing the word punctuation.  When JAWS says
punctuation, arrow down once.  You can cycle through the various punctuation
levels by hitting the spacebar.  When you get the choice you want, then hit
the tab key to okay and hit enter.  You should be able to do this in any
program you have open.  I have not paid much attention to punctuation on my
personal computer, so I don't know how reliable JAWS is once this setting is
changed, but that is how to change it in any given program.

Joni

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:27 AM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

It seems to me that in the good old days Jaws 10 and before, I had jaws
settings which allowed me to hear full punctuation in word and no
punctuation when I read emails or articles from the web.  I was working in
those days and writing adoption home study reports and I needed to hear all
that punctuation, but I didn't need to hear it if I was reading an article
or an email.  Now, it seems that even if punctuation is set to none, I
still hear it when reading emails and articles from the web.  Is this
everyone's experience?  Am I doing tomsething wrong?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

2012-01-26 Thread Joni Colver
Miriam, as an alternative to Quick Settings, I opened the Settings Center 
with insert and 6 on the numbers row.  I typed punctuation into the edit box 
and it said it could only be modified through the default setting, which 
would then I assume affect all programs, not just the one you want.  My 
settings using quick Settings have seemed to hold for me, so I don't know 
what to suggest.


Maybe someone with more experience and expertise with JAWS can help you sort 
it out.  I am curious now also to know if punctuation an be set for each 
program or only as an across the board default setting.


Joni

-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Ah, but the setting doesn't remain.  It was fine when I made it and read
your email.  But when I came back to the email, the punctuation was back.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Miriam, you should be able to set punctuation to some, most, all or none
through the Quick Settings in JAWS 13.

Open this with the insert key and v.  When it opens you will be in the edit
box.  In the edit box start typing the word punctuation.  When JAWS says
punctuation, arrow down once.  You can cycle through the various punctuation
levels by hitting the spacebar.  When you get the choice you want, then hit
the tab key to okay and hit enter.  You should be able to do this in any
program you have open.  I have not paid much attention to punctuation on my
personal computer, so I don't know how reliable JAWS is once this setting is
changed, but that is how to change it in any given program.

Joni

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:27 AM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

It seems to me that in the good old days Jaws 10 and before, I had jaws
settings which allowed me to hear full punctuation in word and no
punctuation when I read emails or articles from the web.  I was working in
those days and writing adoption home study reports and I needed to hear all
that punctuation, but I didn't need to hear it if I was reading an article
or an email.  Now, it seems that even if punctuation is set to none, I
still hear it when reading emails and articles from the web.  Is this
everyone's experience?  Am I doing tomsething wrong?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

2012-01-26 Thread Flor Lynch
Punctuation, as well as being set through Quick Settings, can be 
customized in the customize Punctuation Settings dialogue: that is, you 
may silence none, some, most, or all occurrences of a particular sign, 
or change what is spoken for that sign.


- Original Message - 
From: Joni Colver earlyb...@tampabay.rr.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11


Miriam, as an alternative to Quick Settings, I opened the Settings 
Center with insert and 6 on the numbers row.  I typed punctuation into 
the edit box and it said it could only be modified through the default 
setting, which would then I assume affect all programs, not just the 
one you want.  My settings using quick Settings have seemed to hold 
for me, so I don't know what to suggest.


Maybe someone with more experience and expertise with JAWS can help 
you sort it out.  I am curious now also to know if punctuation an be 
set for each program or only as an across the board default setting.


Joni

-Original Message- 

From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Ah, but the setting doesn't remain.  It was fine when I made it and 
read
your email.  But when I came back to the email, the punctuation was 
back.


Miriam

-Original Message-

From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Joni 
Colver

Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Miriam, you should be able to set punctuation to some, most, all or 
none

through the Quick Settings in JAWS 13.

Open this with the insert key and v.  When it opens you will be in the 
edit
box.  In the edit box start typing the word punctuation.  When JAWS 
says
punctuation, arrow down once.  You can cycle through the various 
punctuation
levels by hitting the spacebar.  When you get the choice you want, 
then hit
the tab key to okay and hit enter.  You should be able to do this in 
any
program you have open.  I have not paid much attention to punctuation 
on my
personal computer, so I don't know how reliable JAWS is once this 
setting is

changed, but that is how to change it in any given program.

Joni

-Original Message-

From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:27 AM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

It seems to me that in the good old days Jaws 10 and before, I had 
jaws

settings which allowed me to hear full punctuation in word and no
punctuation when I read emails or articles from the web.  I was 
working in
those days and writing adoption home study reports and I needed to 
hear all
that punctuation, but I didn't need to hear it if I was reading an 
article
or an email.  Now, it seems that even if punctuation is set to none, 
I

still hear it when reading emails and articles from the web.  Is this
everyone's experience?  Am I doing tomsething wrong?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

2012-01-26 Thread John Justice
Joni, John here.
I'm able to create different punctuation settings for each of my programs.
Hmmm!  That's really odd.  Oh sure, you can change punctuation in the
Default  and it will effect every program in which individual settings have
not been made.
But as far as I know, you can create settings for each program.  You'd
almost have to with something like Excel.
I never imagined that there would be an issue.  But I believe that the way
to make a permanent change is to create a separate profile for each program.
There are specific steps to do that.
As I'm sure you know, part of any voice profile is how punctuation is
processed.  If Miriam's settings aren't holding, I suggest that she create
separate voice profiles for each different program, save them and then make
that particular profile the one which is used when the softwear is called
up.
I can dig up those steps for creating separate voice profiles if anyone
wants them.  I got them directly from Freedom.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY
PERSONAL E-MAIL:  john_just...@verizon.net

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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Miriam, as an alternative to Quick Settings, I opened the Settings Center
with insert and 6 on the numbers row.  I typed punctuation into the edit box
and it said it could only be modified through the default setting, which
would then I assume affect all programs, not just the one you want.  My
settings using quick Settings have seemed to hold for me, so I don't know
what to suggest.

Maybe someone with more experience and expertise with JAWS can help you sort
it out.  I am curious now also to know if punctuation an be set for each
program or only as an across the board default setting.

Joni

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Ah, but the setting doesn't remain.  It was fine when I made it and read
your email.  But when I came back to the email, the punctuation was back.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Miriam, you should be able to set punctuation to some, most, all or none
through the Quick Settings in JAWS 13.

Open this with the insert key and v.  When it opens you will be in the edit
box.  In the edit box start typing the word punctuation.  When JAWS says
punctuation, arrow down once.  You can cycle through the various punctuation
levels by hitting the spacebar.  When you get the choice you want, then hit
the tab key to okay and hit enter.  You should be able to do this in any
program you have open.  I have not paid much attention to punctuation on my
personal computer, so I don't know how reliable JAWS is once this setting is
changed, but that is how to change it in any given program.

Joni

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:27 AM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

It seems to me that in the good old days Jaws 10 and before, I had jaws
settings which allowed me to hear full punctuation in word and no
punctuation when I read emails or articles from the web.  I was working in
those days and writing adoption home study reports and I needed to hear all
that punctuation, but I didn't need to hear it if I was reading an article
or an email.  Now, it seems that even if punctuation is set to none, I
still hear it when reading emails and articles from the web.  Is this
everyone's experience?  Am I doing tomsething wrong?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

2012-01-26 Thread Joni Colver
Miriam, I just set punctuation to all in Windows Live mail through the Quick 
Settings.  I closed the program, and when I reopened it JAWS was reading all 
the punctuation.  I am not sure why this did not work for you.


Joni


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

2012-01-26 Thread Miriam Vieni
Joni,

The guy who helps me with my computer had told me that there is only one
default setting which is for all programs and he set it to none for
punctuation, but that certainly didn't work.  It just seems that I shouldn't
have to change the setting every time I move in or out of a program.  But at
least, now I know what to do for a temporary fix.

Miriam  

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Miriam, as an alternative to Quick Settings, I opened the Settings Center
with insert and 6 on the numbers row.  I typed punctuation into the edit box
and it said it could only be modified through the default setting, which
would then I assume affect all programs, not just the one you want.  My
settings using quick Settings have seemed to hold for me, so I don't know
what to suggest.

Maybe someone with more experience and expertise with JAWS can help you sort
it out.  I am curious now also to know if punctuation an be set for each
program or only as an across the board default setting.

Joni

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Ah, but the setting doesn't remain.  It was fine when I made it and read
your email.  But when I came back to the email, the punctuation was back.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Miriam, you should be able to set punctuation to some, most, all or none
through the Quick Settings in JAWS 13.

Open this with the insert key and v.  When it opens you will be in the edit
box.  In the edit box start typing the word punctuation.  When JAWS says
punctuation, arrow down once.  You can cycle through the various punctuation
levels by hitting the spacebar.  When you get the choice you want, then hit
the tab key to okay and hit enter.  You should be able to do this in any
program you have open.  I have not paid much attention to punctuation on my
personal computer, so I don't know how reliable JAWS is once this setting is
changed, but that is how to change it in any given program.

Joni

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:27 AM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

It seems to me that in the good old days Jaws 10 and before, I had jaws
settings which allowed me to hear full punctuation in word and no
punctuation when I read emails or articles from the web.  I was working in
those days and writing adoption home study reports and I needed to hear all
that punctuation, but I didn't need to hear it if I was reading an article
or an email.  Now, it seems that even if punctuation is set to none, I
still hear it when reading emails and articles from the web.  Is this
everyone's experience?  Am I doing tomsething wrong?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

2012-01-26 Thread Miriam Vieni
How do you access them?

Miriam 

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Punctuation, as well as being set through Quick Settings, can be customized
in the customize Punctuation Settings dialogue: that is, you may silence
none, some, most, or all occurrences of a particular sign, or change what is
spoken for that sign.

- Original Message -
From: Joni Colver earlyb...@tampabay.rr.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11


 Miriam, as an alternative to Quick Settings, I opened the Settings 
 Center with insert and 6 on the numbers row.  I typed punctuation into 
 the edit box and it said it could only be modified through the default 
 setting, which would then I assume affect all programs, not just the 
 one you want.  My settings using quick Settings have seemed to hold 
 for me, so I don't know what to suggest.

 Maybe someone with more experience and expertise with JAWS can help 
 you sort it out.  I am curious now also to know if punctuation an be 
 set for each program or only as an across the board default setting.

 Joni

 -Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni
 Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:17 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

 Ah, but the setting doesn't remain.  It was fine when I made it and 
 read
 your email.  But when I came back to the email, the punctuation was 
 back.

 Miriam

 -Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Joni 
 Colver
 Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:44 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

 Miriam, you should be able to set punctuation to some, most, all or 
 none
 through the Quick Settings in JAWS 13.

 Open this with the insert key and v.  When it opens you will be in the 
 edit
 box.  In the edit box start typing the word punctuation.  When JAWS 
 says
 punctuation, arrow down once.  You can cycle through the various 
 punctuation
 levels by hitting the spacebar.  When you get the choice you want, 
 then hit
 the tab key to okay and hit enter.  You should be able to do this in 
 any
 program you have open.  I have not paid much attention to punctuation 
 on my
 personal computer, so I don't know how reliable JAWS is once this 
 setting is
 changed, but that is how to change it in any given program.

 Joni

 -Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
 Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:27 AM
 To: jaws users list
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

 It seems to me that in the good old days Jaws 10 and before, I had 
 jaws
 settings which allowed me to hear full punctuation in word and no
 punctuation when I read emails or articles from the web.  I was 
 working in
 those days and writing adoption home study reports and I needed to 
 hear all
 that punctuation, but I didn't need to hear it if I was reading an 
 article
 or an email.  Now, it seems that even if punctuation is set to none, 
 I
 still hear it when reading emails and articles from the web.  Is this
 everyone's experience?  Am I doing tomsething wrong?

 Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

2012-01-26 Thread Flor Lynch
JAWSKey+6; control shift d; type customize; choose 1 of 4 from the 
resulting list (in JAWS13; Press tab key into the list of signs. here 
when something is set to ALL, it means that it's supposed to be silent 
all of the time. (Some synthesizers override this setting for some 
punctuation signs.) After that, key tab and there is an Edit Description 
button. Tab again, and there's a restore defaults button.


- Original Message - 
From: Miriam Vieni miriamvi...@optonline.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11



How do you access them?

Miriam

-Original Message-

From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor 
Lynch

Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Punctuation, as well as being set through Quick Settings, can be 
customized
in the customize Punctuation Settings dialogue: that is, you may 
silence
none, some, most, or all occurrences of a particular sign, or change 
what is

spoken for that sign.

- Original Message -

From: Joni Colver earlyb...@tampabay.rr.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11



Miriam, as an alternative to Quick Settings, I opened the Settings
Center with insert and 6 on the numbers row.  I typed punctuation 
into
the edit box and it said it could only be modified through the 
default

setting, which would then I assume affect all programs, not just the
one you want.  My settings using quick Settings have seemed to hold
for me, so I don't know what to suggest.

Maybe someone with more experience and expertise with JAWS can help
you sort it out.  I am curious now also to know if punctuation an be
set for each program or only as an across the board default setting.

Joni

-Original Message- 

From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Ah, but the setting doesn't remain.  It was fine when I made it and
read
your email.  But when I came back to the email, the punctuation was
back.

Miriam

-Original Message-

From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com

[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Joni
Colver
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Miriam, you should be able to set punctuation to some, most, all or
none
through the Quick Settings in JAWS 13.

Open this with the insert key and v.  When it opens you will be in 
the

edit
box.  In the edit box start typing the word punctuation.  When JAWS
says
punctuation, arrow down once.  You can cycle through the various
punctuation
levels by hitting the spacebar.  When you get the choice you want,
then hit
the tab key to okay and hit enter.  You should be able to do this in
any
program you have open.  I have not paid much attention to punctuation
on my
personal computer, so I don't know how reliable JAWS is once this
setting is
changed, but that is how to change it in any given program.

Joni

-Original Message-

From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:27 AM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

It seems to me that in the good old days Jaws 10 and before, I had
jaws
settings which allowed me to hear full punctuation in word and no
punctuation when I read emails or articles from the web.  I was
working in
those days and writing adoption home study reports and I needed to
hear all
that punctuation, but I didn't need to hear it if I was reading an
article
or an email.  Now, it seems that even if punctuation is set to 
none,

I
still hear it when reading emails and articles from the web.  Is this
everyone's experience?  Am I doing tomsething wrong?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

2012-01-26 Thread Miriam Vieni
If you have a chance to find them, could you please send them and perhaps I
can get help doing this.  I've got punctuation set for none but jaws is
reading all of it.  The quick settings don't stay. I may just have to adjust
but it seems like there ought to be a solution.

Miriam  

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John Justice
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 7:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Joni, John here.
I'm able to create different punctuation settings for each of my programs.
Hmmm!  That's really odd.  Oh sure, you can change punctuation in the
Default  and it will effect every program in which individual settings have
not been made.
But as far as I know, you can create settings for each program.  You'd
almost have to with something like Excel.
I never imagined that there would be an issue.  But I believe that the way
to make a permanent change is to create a separate profile for each program.
There are specific steps to do that.
As I'm sure you know, part of any voice profile is how punctuation is
processed.  If Miriam's settings aren't holding, I suggest that she create
separate voice profiles for each different program, save them and then make
that particular profile the one which is used when the softwear is called
up.
I can dig up those steps for creating separate voice profiles if anyone
wants them.  I got them directly from Freedom.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY
PERSONAL E-MAIL:  john_just...@verizon.net

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Miriam, as an alternative to Quick Settings, I opened the Settings Center
with insert and 6 on the numbers row.  I typed punctuation into the edit box
and it said it could only be modified through the default setting, which
would then I assume affect all programs, not just the one you want.  My
settings using quick Settings have seemed to hold for me, so I don't know
what to suggest.

Maybe someone with more experience and expertise with JAWS can help you sort
it out.  I am curious now also to know if punctuation an be set for each
program or only as an across the board default setting.

Joni

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Ah, but the setting doesn't remain.  It was fine when I made it and read
your email.  But when I came back to the email, the punctuation was back.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

Miriam, you should be able to set punctuation to some, most, all or none
through the Quick Settings in JAWS 13.

Open this with the insert key and v.  When it opens you will be in the edit
box.  In the edit box start typing the word punctuation.  When JAWS says
punctuation, arrow down once.  You can cycle through the various punctuation
levels by hitting the spacebar.  When you get the choice you want, then hit
the tab key to okay and hit enter.  You should be able to do this in any
program you have open.  I have not paid much attention to punctuation on my
personal computer, so I don't know how reliable JAWS is once this setting is
changed, but that is how to change it in any given program.

Joni

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:27 AM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Punctuation, jaws 13 win7, also magic 11

It seems to me that in the good old days Jaws 10 and before, I had jaws
settings which allowed me to hear full punctuation in word and no
punctuation when I read emails or articles from the web.  I was working in
those days and writing adoption home study reports and I needed to hear all
that punctuation, but I didn't need to hear it if I was reading an article
or an email.  Now, it seems that even if punctuation is set to none, I
still hear it when reading emails and articles from the web.  Is this
everyone's experience?  Am I doing tomsething wrong?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] protecting a document ms 2007 alert

2012-01-26 Thread inthane
yes, but they have to be able to open it in the first place, which means 
that there is a modicum of either trust or permission to edit there!


HTH,
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From: leonard morris lmorris1...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:10 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] protecting a document ms 2007 alert


After reviewing the method for protecting a document sent earlier and 
could

not get it to work for me I recalled the original method starting with f12
key save as. After tabbing until I got to tools I arrowed down to general
and entered there. I had to type the password twice and hit ok. Fine, that
sounds normal behavior right? Fooling around I wanted to see how to
unprotect the document. I went back in starting with f12 and followed the
same steps but when I got to the password fields I decided to see what 
would
happen if I backspaced over the * in the first and second fields and 
hit
ok and then see if I could open the document. It opened the document with 
no

problems. Well that seems to me to be strange because anyone knowing where
to begin in the protection area need only to backspace over the fields
erasing the * and they could open your document. Any thoughts?

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[JAWS-Users] request to unsubscribe

2012-01-26 Thread G . Braille

Dear moderator,
I tried to unsubscribe from both jaws-users list and from Blind-Computing 
mailing list few time. I have followed the instruction to unsubscribe from 
both list. However, I can't do it and the mail are keep coming.

Would you please unsubscribe me from the lists?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to convert PDF to word or txt when the PDF hasa security password?

2012-01-26 Thread inthane

its a users manual, copyright laws, fa!

will the original queryant of this topic contact me off list about this 
please!


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- Original Message - 
From: jerry martin jandymar...@clear.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to convert PDF to word or txt when the PDF 
hasa security password?




Pratigue:

I can't answer any of the questions regarding the software you use, but I 
would be willing to bet that the need for a password to open a PDF file 
would be due to copyright laws and all of that.  This is, mind you, just a 
thought.


Stay sane.

Jerry
- Original Message - 
From: Dujari, Prateek prateek.duj...@intel.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:39 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to convert PDF to word or txt when the PDF has a 
security password?




Hello.

I installed Sound Forge from Sony Creative software.  I downloaded the 
user's manual as a PDF. I can open the PDF just fine using Acrobat 
reader. However all 300 pages or so of the manual are pasted in the PDF 
file as a graphic so I can't the content using Adobe acrobat reader. Oh 
and when I open the Pdf document in Acrobat reader it doesn't ask me for 
any password or anything.


Now to read the Pdf I use PDF Converter Professional from Scan Soft. this 
software converts the Pdf to MS word. It works like a charm for any such 
Pdf document where the content is pasted as graphic in the Pdf file. the 
problem is when I start the using Pdf converter professional, a window 
pops up asking for a password and saying it's a secured PDF document. 
I'm like, what the heck... why does a Pdf manual for a software have to 
be like this. Anyway, I don't have any password for the manual. If I 
ignore and just hit ok my PDF pro converter software seems to begin 
converting the Pdf , takes like 10min for the 300 plus pages, opens up 
converted MS Word document and hangs. I can't do anything with that word 
document. Things hang, Jaws becomes unresponsive and my out is to alt- F4 
everything to have JAWS talk again.


this behavior is repeatable and consistent on 2 diff PCs both running 
Win7 and latest JFW13.  Seems this password window at the beginning of 
the conversion is the problem because I never have this problem on any 
other PDF.


solution ideas?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] i e 8

2012-01-26 Thread inthane

a reminder to all on this,

I have a set of files and some info on preventing this update until you want 
it, please... contact me off list with a significant subject line and I can 
get you the files.


please don't forget to tell me what OS your using so I can get you the 
correct file!


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From: Marilyn Walker mlw1...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] i e 8


THanks, Andy:  I'm using  ie 8 so I guess MS has not yet auto updated to v 
8

for xp.  marilyn
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From: Baracco, Andrew W andrew.bara...@va.gov

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] i e 8


: hit ALT-H for help, and arrow down to About Internet Explorer and hit
: ENTER.
: Andy
:
:
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: [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn
: Walker
: Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:09 PM
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:
: Hi, how can I figure out whether or not i am using i e 7 or 8?  Marilyn
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