Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening PDF documents in Acrobat Reader instead of a browser such as IE, revisited

2015-12-07 Thread Mike O'Brien
Hi John and Linda

The Freedom Scientific instructions for opening a PDF document in Acrobat
Reader instead of IE were at the bottom of my original email, and therefore
are also at the bottom of this email.  If I try to virtualize the IE window,
JAWS just tells me that the window is already virtualized.  However, I can
do a control+a to select all the text in the IE window and then copy it and
paste it into a text document.  But I only get portions of the PDF document.
Also, I misspoke when I said the PDF document was readable in the IE window.
Again only random parts of the document are read.


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Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 07:57
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening PDF documents in Acrobat Reader instead of
a browser such as IE, revisited

Hello Mike,
I have two reasons for responding to your original message.
Can you send me the procedure for setting up Adobe Acrobat to open in the
manner you described?

Once your .pdf document is displayed, can you virtualize the screen and copy
the document in that way?
The only issue I can see there is that you'd have an interesting challenge
with documents having multiple pages.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net

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Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 2:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Opening PDF documents in Acrobat Reader instead of a
browser such as IE, revisited

Hi

I had made the changes to the Adobe Reader startup Accessibility Assistant
and accessibility preferences that were recommended by FS.  PDF documents
were being opened in Adobe Reader as expected until I accepted the download
and installation of the latest version of Adobe Reader, titled Adobe Acrobat
Reader DC, version 15.009.20079.  Now, when I press enter or space on a web
site  link to download a PDF document, it just opens up in a new IE window.
This new IE window has no menus, including the context menu brought up by
the applications key or shift F10, no link and no buttons to be able to
download it.  The PDF document is processed by Adobe reader and can be read
with JAWS.  But there is no way to save it to my computer.  I know that on
some web sites, when I'm positioned on a link, I can bring up the context
menu and press enter on the Save as option to download the document.  But
many of the sites from which I download PDF documents, the save as option is
grayed and unavailable.  This behavior exists using both JAWS 16 and 17.


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Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 10:00
To: JAWS-Users-List 2
Subject: [JAWS-Users] FS way of making PDF files load in a separate window
in IE

Hi Group,

This morning I receive an email from FS support on how to make PDF files
open in a separate window in IE. Below is the instructions. They seem to be
a lot easier then what I sent out yesterday. I have not tried it as I got my
Adobe working with the instructions I gave you yesterday. So if you try FS
instructions and it workds for you please email back and let the group know.
Below is the instructions from FS.

 

 

How to get Adobe Reader to open in its own window by Freedom Scientific 

You actually make this change in the Adobe Reader application using the
instructions below:

 

A. Using the Accessibility Set Up Assistant

When you launch a PDF the first time, the accessibility set up assistant
opens. If the accessibility wizard has already run, do the following to open
it:

1. Press ALT+E to open the Edit menu.

2. Press Y to select Accessibility submenu.

3. Press ENTER on Set Up Assistant. The first page of this five page dialog
box opens. The default choice is fine, press ENTER to move to the next page.

4. On the second page you can change things if you wish, but by default it
is OK. Press ENTER to move to page three.

5. On the third page you can change things if you wish, but by default it is
OK. Press ENTER to move to page four.

6. On the fourth page, if you want to use the list of links, list of
headings, and the JAWS find command so on to access long documents, change
the radio button from

"For large documents, only read the currently visible pages"

to 

"Read the entire document at once."

If you do not make this change, in long documents JAWS only sees the links
and headings on the current page. Additionally, JAWS can only search the
current page with the JAWS find command. If you do select read the entire
document at once, it may take a few seconds longer to process large
documents, but it is worth it to be able to see the links and  headings in
the entire document, or to search the entire document with the JAWS find.

7. Press ENTER to move to page five of the Set 

[JAWS-Users] Removing individual users from drop box

2015-12-07 Thread DJ Reese
Hello list:

Subject says it all.  Using Jaws 15 with Windows 7.  Thanks!

DJ Reese

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Twitter: SaturdayNightD1
Phone: 404-461-9323
Saturday night 7:00 pm EST to midnight.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Jaws start up options

2015-12-07 Thread T. Civitello
The problem seems to be that when I make a change to the start options to 
load jaws at login that Window 10 displays a message asking if I want to 
allow Freedom Scientific to make a change to my system which is not visible 
to Jaws. It does this regardless of where I make the change, in the basic 
menu or the startup wizard.  With sighted help I have checked the option to 
allow the change but it still doesn't work. When I shut down and restart the 
option has been changed to load Jaws after login.  Tom


-Original Message- 
From: Don & Cher

Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 7:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Jaws start up options

Did you get this resolved? When I "  a.. Select the Start JAWS at the Log On
Screen check box." the second checkbox is unchecked by default.

Cher


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Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 12:04 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [Bulk] [JAWS-Users] Jaws start up options

Win 10 and Jaws 17.

I am having difficulty with the Jaws start up. Jaws does not start
automatically nor do I get the Windows chimes at start up. I have followed
the steps in the Jaws help dialogue:
 a.. Select the Start JAWS at the Log On Screen check box.
 b.. Clear the Start JAWS after Log On for all Users check box.
 c.. Select Always in the Start JAWS after Log On for this User combo box.
 d.. click OK to save settings.
Each time I do the above I get chimes when I click OK and Jaws goes silent
and I have to hit escape to get it talking again.
When I go back to the dialogue the first two check marks are reversed.
The same settings are set in the start up wizard. What am I doing wrong?
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[JAWS-Users] Everest Free Edition

2015-12-07 Thread Kevin
has anyone used this program and is it friendly with jaws
Everest Free Edition shows your computers specs 
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Jaws start up options

2015-12-07 Thread Dave Carlson
Tom,

Not a Windows 10 expert, but it sounds like you first need to shut off Win 
10 protection from making those types of changes. It sounds like the old 
"User Account Control" from the Windows Vista days.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "T. Civitello" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 07:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Jaws start up options


The problem seems to be that when I make a change to the start options to
load jaws at login that Window 10 displays a message asking if I want to
allow Freedom Scientific to make a change to my system which is not visible
to Jaws. It does this regardless of where I make the change, in the basic
menu or the startup wizard.  With sighted help I have checked the option to
allow the change but it still doesn't work. When I shut down and restart the
option has been changed to load Jaws after login.  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Don & Cher
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 7:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Jaws start up options

Did you get this resolved? When I "  a.. Select the Start JAWS at the Log On
Screen check box." the second checkbox is unchecked by default.

Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 12:04 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [Bulk] [JAWS-Users] Jaws start up options

Win 10 and Jaws 17.

I am having difficulty with the Jaws start up. Jaws does not start
automatically nor do I get the Windows chimes at start up. I have followed
the steps in the Jaws help dialogue:
  a.. Select the Start JAWS at the Log On Screen check box.
  b.. Clear the Start JAWS after Log On for all Users check box.
  c.. Select Always in the Start JAWS after Log On for this User combo box.
  d.. click OK to save settings.
Each time I do the above I get chimes when I click OK and Jaws goes silent
and I have to hit escape to get it talking again.
When I go back to the dialogue the first two check marks are reversed.
The same settings are set in the start up wizard. What am I doing wrong?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Jaws start up options

2015-12-07 Thread T. Civitello

I think you are right. I need the advice of a Win 10 expert.  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson

Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 10:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Jaws start up options

Tom,

Not a Windows 10 expert, but it sounds like you first need to shut off Win
10 protection from making those types of changes. It sounds like the old
"User Account Control" from the Windows Vista days.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "T. Civitello" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 07:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Jaws start up options


The problem seems to be that when I make a change to the start options to
load jaws at login that Window 10 displays a message asking if I want to
allow Freedom Scientific to make a change to my system which is not visible
to Jaws. It does this regardless of where I make the change, in the basic
menu or the startup wizard.  With sighted help I have checked the option to
allow the change but it still doesn't work. When I shut down and restart the
option has been changed to load Jaws after login.  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Don & Cher

Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 7:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Jaws start up options

Did you get this resolved? When I "  a.. Select the Start JAWS at the Log On
Screen check box." the second checkbox is unchecked by default.

Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 12:04 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [Bulk] [JAWS-Users] Jaws start up options

Win 10 and Jaws 17.

I am having difficulty with the Jaws start up. Jaws does not start
automatically nor do I get the Windows chimes at start up. I have followed
the steps in the Jaws help dialogue:
 a.. Select the Start JAWS at the Log On Screen check box.
 b.. Clear the Start JAWS after Log On for all Users check box.
 c.. Select Always in the Start JAWS after Log On for this User combo box.
 d.. click OK to save settings.
Each time I do the above I get chimes when I click OK and Jaws goes silent
and I have to hit escape to get it talking again.
When I go back to the dialogue the first two check marks are reversed.
The same settings are set in the start up wizard. What am I doing wrong?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

2015-12-07 Thread Shane Hecker
It is likely you still have Jaws 16 on your machine. That is unless you 
uninstalled it after installing Jaws 17. If you did not uninstall the 
older version and you still wish to do so, go to programs and features 
in the control panel, find Jaws 16 then right click it and hit 
uninstall/change. Remove Jaws only, do not remove the shared components. 
One more thing, make sure all your programs behave with Jaws 17. 
Sometimes, programs that work well under one version of Jaws don't work 
so well under the newer version.


Shane

On 12/7/2015 1:39 AM, LeDon Becker wrote:

I updated from jaws sixteen to jaws seventeen.. Now for a question. Do I now 
have jaws sixteen and seventeen on my computer at the same time? How do I find 
out. And if I do still have jaws sixteen on my computer, how do I remove it? 
Thank you.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Jaws start up options

2015-12-07 Thread Don & Cher
Did you get this resolved? When I "  a.. Select the Start JAWS at the Log On
Screen check box." the second checkbox is unchecked by default. 

Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 12:04 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [Bulk] [JAWS-Users] Jaws start up options

Win 10 and Jaws 17.

I am having difficulty with the Jaws start up. Jaws does not start
automatically nor do I get the Windows chimes at start up. I have followed
the steps in the Jaws help dialogue:
  a.. Select the Start JAWS at the Log On Screen check box. 
  b.. Clear the Start JAWS after Log On for all Users check box. 
  c.. Select Always in the Start JAWS after Log On for this User combo box. 
  d.. click OK to save settings.
Each time I do the above I get chimes when I click OK and Jaws goes silent
and I have to hit escape to get it talking again.
When I go back to the dialogue the first two check marks are reversed. 
The same settings are set in the start up wizard. What am I doing wrong?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Jaws start up options

2015-12-07 Thread inamuddin
Dear friend, it seams to me that either your Jaws not properly installed or
not properly registered.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


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Behalf Of Don & Cher
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 6:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Jaws start up options

Did you get this resolved? When I "  a.. Select the Start JAWS at the Log On
Screen check box." the second checkbox is unchecked by default. 

Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 12:04 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [Bulk] [JAWS-Users] Jaws start up options

Win 10 and Jaws 17.

I am having difficulty with the Jaws start up. Jaws does not start
automatically nor do I get the Windows chimes at start up. I have followed
the steps in the Jaws help dialogue:
  a.. Select the Start JAWS at the Log On Screen check box. 
  b.. Clear the Start JAWS after Log On for all Users check box. 
  c.. Select Always in the Start JAWS after Log On for this User combo box. 
  d.. click OK to save settings.
Each time I do the above I get chimes when I click OK and Jaws goes silent
and I have to hit escape to get it talking again.
When I go back to the dialogue the first two check marks are reversed. 
The same settings are set in the start up wizard. What am I doing wrong?
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[JAWS-Users] read messages show as unread WLM 12

2015-12-07 Thread T. Civitello
Windows 10 Wlm 12 Jaws 17
For some reason messages that have been read in WLM are still showing as 
unread. This started this morning for no reason that I can determine. Any 
suggestions?  Thanks, Tom
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Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

2015-12-07 Thread Mike B
Hi LeDon,

You can also assign shortcut keystrokes to each version of Jaws.  Below are 
a couple of ways to do this:

From: "Gerald Levy" <

1. Launch the Desktop by pressing Windows key-M.
2. Press J repeatedly until you land on the JAWS icon.
3. Press Alt-Enter to bring up the JAWS Properties page.
4. Tab to the Shortcut key field, and type in the shortcut key combination
of your choice, like Alt-Control-J or whatever other combination you prefer.
5. Tab to Apply button, hit Space, then tab around again to the Okay button
and hit Space.  That's it.  Now, when you press Alt-Control-J or whatever
shortcut key you assigned, JAWS will be launched.  HTH.

Gerald
From: "Flor Lynch" 
yes.  there are several ways.

perhaps the easiest way is to pick your version of JAWS icon on your
desktop, windowsKey+m, then the letter j until the version you want is
highlighted.

then press alt-enter for Properties.

Then tab into the dialogue, shortcut tab.

then when you have the shortcut key edit high;lighted, you can either
assign a letter to be added to the pre-existing alt+ctrl keys, let's
say, press j to make it alt-ctrl-j.  (Or press ctrl-shift or alt-shift
or alt-ctrl-shift with j or anyt other letter, whichever is your fancy.)

Then when 6you've added in the letter, tab to OK and activate it with
spacebar.

Soon after, insert+f4 to unload JAWS; then press your shortcut key combo
to ensure that it is working.
- be sure to use a shortcut that is not already in use by another
program; or one that windows allows you to use.
Flor
Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen


I have jaws 16 and 17.  So to switch from jfw 17 over to 16, I do jaws key f
4, click the ok button to turn it off, then I do windows key r, type jaws16
and press enter.
No spaces between the word and version number.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of LeDon Becker
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 10:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

How do you go about switching from one jaws version to another one? Just
wondering, in case I need to do that. LeDon.

-Original Message-
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

Hi LeDon,

It might be a good idea to leave a 2nd version of Jaws on your computer.
Many people do this just in case they have a problem, let's say Jaws 17
isn't reading a webpage correctly, you can then unload Jaws 17 & start Jaws
16 to finish what you're doing.  Personally I run Jaws 16 as my default
because Jaws 17 doesn't work with Outlook Express well at all.
Take care.
Mike

- Original Message -
From: LeDon Becker
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 11:39 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen


I updated from jaws sixteen to jaws seventeen.. Now for a question. Do I now
have jaws sixteen and seventeen on my computer at the same time? How do I
find out. And if I do still have jaws sixteen on my computer, how do I
remove it? Thank you.
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[JAWS-Users] hi Janie,

2015-12-07 Thread anna vimini

I do not understand what you mean by this
does alt f4 work?


Re: [JAWS-Users] when updating Mcafee internet security suite
does alt f4 work?

-Original Message- From: anna vimini Sent: Monday, December 07, 
2015 1:23 PM To:

jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] when updating Mcafee internet security suite
when I am manually updating McAfee security suite how do I cancel the 
update if I decide to suddenly stop the update?
I know I am to go to cancel but the cancel button is always saying not 
available I tried just entering on the button but nothing happens 
because it is
unavailable I also tried pressing insert and escape but no luck does 
anyone on the list know what I can try?

I am running windows 8.1 and Jaws 15
Thanks in advance

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[JAWS-Users] when updating McAfee internet security suite

2015-12-07 Thread anna vimini

Hi Janie ,
I just figured out what you meant by saying this
does alt f4 work?
no alt F4 does not work it just closes the program off but the update 
does not cancel out.

Re: [JAWS-Users] when updating Mcafee internet security suite
does alt f4 work?

-Original Message- From: anna vimini Sent: Monday, December 07, 
2015 1:23 PM To:

jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] when updating Mcafee internet security suite
when I am manually updating McAfee security suite how do I cancel the 
update if I decide to suddenly stop the update?
I know I am to go to cancel but the cancel button is always saying not 
available I tried just entering on the button but nothing happens 
because it is
unavailable I also tried pressing insert and escape but no luck does 
anyone on the list know what I can try?

I am running windows 8.1 and Jaws 15
Thanks in advance

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[JAWS-Users] hi Janie sorry about the subject line in this message it is suppose to read when updating McAfee internet security suite

2015-12-07 Thread anna vimini

Hi Janie,
I do not know what you mean by this
does alt f4 work?
but I figured out what you meant I wrote another message telling you all 
that I figured out what you meant by saying

does alt f4 work?
no alt F4 just closes the program off it does not cancel the update.




Re: [JAWS-Users] when updating McAfee internet security suite
does alt f4 work?

-Original Message- From: anna vimini Sent: Monday, December 07, 
2015 1:23 PM To:

jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] when updating Mcafee internet security suite
when I am manually updating McAfee security suite how do I cancel the 
update if I decide to suddenly stop the update?
I know I am to go to cancel but the cancel button is always saying not 
available I tried just entering on the button but nothing happens 
because it is
unavailable I also tried pressing insert and escape but no luck does 
anyone on the list know what I can try?

I am running windows 8.1 and Jaws 15
Thanks in advance

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[JAWS-Users] to the list owner

2015-12-07 Thread anna vimini

sorry David ,
about one of my messages with the subject line hi Janie
my email program Thunderbird went a little nuts and ended up sending six 
or seven of the same email I have no idea what went wrong but I think it 
is fixed now.

sorry again

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening PDF documents in Acrobat Reader instead of a browser such as IE, revisited

2015-12-07 Thread Flor Lynch

Mike,

Did you make the FS-recommended changes again, for your latest Adobe Acrobat 
Reader, after you installed it?


(There is another option, in the Reading Options, above the Accessibility 
Assistant in the Edit Menu, that could be affecting how your pdf's are being 
read etc. In that option, MAKE SURE that "Infer Reading Order From Document" 
is unchecked: choose "left to right, top to bottom" instead. See if that has 
an effect on how documents are being presented to you.)


-Original Message- 
From: Mike O'Brien

Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 1:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening PDF documents in Acrobat Reader instead of 
a browser such as IE, revisited


Hi John and Linda

The Freedom Scientific instructions for opening a PDF document in Acrobat
Reader instead of IE were at the bottom of my original email, and therefore
are also at the bottom of this email.  If I try to virtualize the IE window,
JAWS just tells me that the window is already virtualized.  However, I can
do a control+a to select all the text in the IE window and then copy it and
paste it into a text document.  But I only get portions of the PDF document.
Also, I misspoke when I said the PDF document was readable in the IE window.
Again only random parts of the document are read.


-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On

Behalf Of john_Justice
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 07:57
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening PDF documents in Acrobat Reader instead of
a browser such as IE, revisited

Hello Mike,
I have two reasons for responding to your original message.
Can you send me the procedure for setting up Adobe Acrobat to open in the
manner you described?

Once your .pdf document is displayed, can you virtualize the screen and copy
the document in that way?
The only issue I can see there is that you'd have an interesting challenge
with documents having multiple pages.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net

-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On

Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 2:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Opening PDF documents in Acrobat Reader instead of a
browser such as IE, revisited

Hi

I had made the changes to the Adobe Reader startup Accessibility Assistant
and accessibility preferences that were recommended by FS.  PDF documents
were being opened in Adobe Reader as expected until I accepted the download
and installation of the latest version of Adobe Reader, titled Adobe Acrobat
Reader DC, version 15.009.20079.  Now, when I press enter or space on a web
site  link to download a PDF document, it just opens up in a new IE window.
This new IE window has no menus, including the context menu brought up by
the applications key or shift F10, no link and no buttons to be able to
download it.  The PDF document is processed by Adobe reader and can be read
with JAWS.  But there is no way to save it to my computer.  I know that on
some web sites, when I'm positioned on a link, I can bring up the context
menu and press enter on the Save as option to download the document.  But
many of the sites from which I download PDF documents, the save as option is
grayed and unavailable.  This behavior exists using both JAWS 16 and 17.


-Original Message-

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Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 10:00
To: JAWS-Users-List 2
Subject: [JAWS-Users] FS way of making PDF files load in a separate window
in IE

Hi Group,

This morning I receive an email from FS support on how to make PDF files
open in a separate window in IE. Below is the instructions. They seem to be
a lot easier then what I sent out yesterday. I have not tried it as I got my
Adobe working with the instructions I gave you yesterday. So if you try FS
instructions and it workds for you please email back and let the group know.
Below is the instructions from FS.





How to get Adobe Reader to open in its own window by Freedom Scientific

You actually make this change in the Adobe Reader application using the
instructions below:



A. Using the Accessibility Set Up Assistant

When you launch a PDF the first time, the accessibility set up assistant
opens. If the accessibility wizard has already run, do the following to open
it:

1. Press ALT+E to open the Edit menu.

2. Press Y to select Accessibility submenu.

3. Press ENTER on Set Up Assistant. The first page of this five page dialog
box opens. The default choice is fine, press ENTER to move to the next page.

4. On the second page you can change things if you wish, but by default it
is OK. Press ENTER to move to page three.

5. On the third page you can change things if you wish, but by default it is
OK. Press ENTER to move to page four.

6. On the fourth page, if you 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening PDF documents in Acrobat Reader instead ofa browser such as IE, revisited

2015-12-07 Thread Flor Lynch

One shortcut key to get into the Reading Options dialogue is, ctrl+shift+5.)

-Original Message- 
From: Flor Lynch

Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 9:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening PDF documents in Acrobat Reader instead 
ofa browser such as IE, revisited


Mike,

Did you make the FS-recommended changes again, for your latest Adobe Acrobat
Reader, after you installed it?

(There is another option, in the Reading Options, above the Accessibility
Assistant in the Edit Menu, that could be affecting how your pdf's are being
read etc. In that option, MAKE SURE that "Infer Reading Order From Document"
is unchecked: choose "left to right, top to bottom" instead. See if that has
an effect on how documents are being presented to you.)

-Original Message- 

From: Mike O'Brien

Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 1:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening PDF documents in Acrobat Reader instead of
a browser such as IE, revisited

Hi John and Linda

The Freedom Scientific instructions for opening a PDF document in Acrobat
Reader instead of IE were at the bottom of my original email, and therefore
are also at the bottom of this email.  If I try to virtualize the IE window,
JAWS just tells me that the window is already virtualized.  However, I can
do a control+a to select all the text in the IE window and then copy it and
paste it into a text document.  But I only get portions of the PDF document.
Also, I misspoke when I said the PDF document was readable in the IE window.
Again only random parts of the document are read.


-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On

Behalf Of john_Justice
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 07:57
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening PDF documents in Acrobat Reader instead of
a browser such as IE, revisited

Hello Mike,
I have two reasons for responding to your original message.
Can you send me the procedure for setting up Adobe Acrobat to open in the
manner you described?

Once your .pdf document is displayed, can you virtualize the screen and copy
the document in that way?
The only issue I can see there is that you'd have an interesting challenge
with documents having multiple pages.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net

-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On

Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 2:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Opening PDF documents in Acrobat Reader instead of a
browser such as IE, revisited

Hi

I had made the changes to the Adobe Reader startup Accessibility Assistant
and accessibility preferences that were recommended by FS.  PDF documents
were being opened in Adobe Reader as expected until I accepted the download
and installation of the latest version of Adobe Reader, titled Adobe Acrobat
Reader DC, version 15.009.20079.  Now, when I press enter or space on a web
site  link to download a PDF document, it just opens up in a new IE window.
This new IE window has no menus, including the context menu brought up by
the applications key or shift F10, no link and no buttons to be able to
download it.  The PDF document is processed by Adobe reader and can be read
with JAWS.  But there is no way to save it to my computer.  I know that on
some web sites, when I'm positioned on a link, I can bring up the context
menu and press enter on the Save as option to download the document.  But
many of the sites from which I download PDF documents, the save as option is
grayed and unavailable.  This behavior exists using both JAWS 16 and 17.


-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On

Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 10:00
To: JAWS-Users-List 2
Subject: [JAWS-Users] FS way of making PDF files load in a separate window
in IE

Hi Group,

This morning I receive an email from FS support on how to make PDF files
open in a separate window in IE. Below is the instructions. They seem to be
a lot easier then what I sent out yesterday. I have not tried it as I got my
Adobe working with the instructions I gave you yesterday. So if you try FS
instructions and it workds for you please email back and let the group know.
Below is the instructions from FS.





How to get Adobe Reader to open in its own window by Freedom Scientific

You actually make this change in the Adobe Reader application using the
instructions below:



A. Using the Accessibility Set Up Assistant

When you launch a PDF the first time, the accessibility set up assistant
opens. If the accessibility wizard has already run, do the following to open
it:

1. Press ALT+E to open the Edit menu.

2. Press Y to select Accessibility submenu.

3. Press ENTER on Set Up Assistant. The first page of this five page dialog
box opens. The default choice is fine, 

Re: [JAWS-Users] to the list owner

2015-12-07 Thread David Ferrin
Well at least you caught it before I got around to checking my email.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

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Behalf Of anna vimini
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 3:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] to the list owner

sorry David ,
about one of my messages with the subject line hi Janie my email program
Thunderbird went a little nuts and ended up sending six or seven of the same
email I have no idea what went wrong but I think it is fixed now.
sorry again

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Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

2015-12-07 Thread David Ferrin
I normally don't chime in on this kind of thing but I must point out that 17
seems to have an issue on the BARD library web page. Why you might ask, I
have no idea at all. Never the less on multiple systems it works better to
revert to 16 when making my selections of reading material.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 1:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

Hi LeDon,

It might be a good idea to leave a 2nd version of Jaws on your computer. 
Many people do this just in case they have a problem, let's say Jaws 17
isn't reading a webpage correctly, you can then unload Jaws 17 & start Jaws
16 to finish what you're doing.  Personally I run Jaws 16 as my default
because Jaws 17 doesn't work with Outlook Express well at all.
Take care.
Mike

- Original Message -
From: LeDon Becker
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 11:39 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen


I updated from jaws sixteen to jaws seventeen.. Now for a question. Do I now

have jaws sixteen and seventeen on my computer at the same time? How do I 
find out. And if I do still have jaws sixteen on my computer, how do I 
remove it? Thank you.
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[JAWS-Users] Issues with Mozilla thunderbird, Jaws 17, and Windows 10

2015-12-07 Thread Courtney Curran

Hi,
I'm having issues with Mozilla Thunderbird, JAWS 17, and Windows 10. First, 
when I'm in my list of messages, JAWS won't read the headers of the messages 
within the list, and when I try to select multiple messages, it just says 
selected, but it doesn't tell me which messages are being selected. Also, 
mozilla thunderbird really doesn't seem very responsive as a whole, but I'm not 
sure if this is a problem with thunderbird, JAWS 17, or Windows 10 or a 
combination of all 3. Is anyone else having these issues or similar issues? 
Also, are there any other alternative email programs that will work well with 
gmail, JAWS 17, and windows 10. I know about outlook, but I'm really not sure I 
want to be putting out that much money for an email program. Any insight into 
how to resolve these problems would be gratefully appreciated. 
Thanks,




Moop
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Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

2015-12-07 Thread Mike B
Hi LeDon,

It might be a good idea to leave a 2nd version of Jaws on your computer. 
Many people do this just in case they have a problem, let's say Jaws 17 
isn't reading a webpage correctly, you can then unload Jaws 17 & start Jaws 
16 to finish what you're doing.  Personally I run Jaws 16 as my default 
because Jaws 17 doesn't work with Outlook Express well at all.
Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: LeDon Becker
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 11:39 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen


I updated from jaws sixteen to jaws seventeen.. Now for a question. Do I now 
have jaws sixteen and seventeen on my computer at the same time? How do I 
find out. And if I do still have jaws sixteen on my computer, how do I 
remove it? Thank you.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

2015-12-07 Thread Kimsan
I have jaws 16 and 17.  So to switch from jfw 17 over to 16, I do jaws key f
4, click the ok button to turn it off, then I do windows key r, type jaws16
and press enter.
No spaces between the word and version number.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of LeDon Becker
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 10:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

How do you go about switching from one jaws version to another one? Just
wondering, in case I need to do that. LeDon.

-Original Message-
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

Hi LeDon,

It might be a good idea to leave a 2nd version of Jaws on your computer.
Many people do this just in case they have a problem, let's say Jaws 17
isn't reading a webpage correctly, you can then unload Jaws 17 & start Jaws
16 to finish what you're doing.  Personally I run Jaws 16 as my default
because Jaws 17 doesn't work with Outlook Express well at all.
Take care.
Mike

- Original Message -
From: LeDon Becker
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 11:39 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen


I updated from jaws sixteen to jaws seventeen.. Now for a question. Do I now
have jaws sixteen and seventeen on my computer at the same time? How do I
find out. And if I do still have jaws sixteen on my computer, how do I
remove it? Thank you.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

2015-12-07 Thread Kimsan
I have jaws 16 and 17.  So to switch from jfw 17 over to 16, I do jaws key f
4, click the ok button to turn it off, then I do windows key r, type jaws16
and press enter.
No spaces between the word and version number.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of LeDon Becker
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 10:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

How do you go about switching from one jaws version to another one? Just
wondering, in case I need to do that. LeDon.

-Original Message-
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

Hi LeDon,

It might be a good idea to leave a 2nd version of Jaws on your computer.
Many people do this just in case they have a problem, let's say Jaws 17
isn't reading a webpage correctly, you can then unload Jaws 17 & start Jaws
16 to finish what you're doing.  Personally I run Jaws 16 as my default
because Jaws 17 doesn't work with Outlook Express well at all.
Take care.
Mike

- Original Message -
From: LeDon Becker
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 11:39 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen


I updated from jaws sixteen to jaws seventeen.. Now for a question. Do I now
have jaws sixteen and seventeen on my computer at the same time? How do I
find out. And if I do still have jaws sixteen on my computer, how do I
remove it? Thank you.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] when updating Mcafee internet security suite

2015-12-07 Thread Janie Degenshein

does alt f4 work?

-Original Message- 
From: anna vimini 
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 1:23 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] when updating Mcafee internet security suite 

when I am manually updating McAfee security suite how do I cancel the 
update if I decide to suddenly stop the update?
I know I am to go to cancel but the cancel button is always saying not 
available I tried just entering on the button but nothing happens 
because it is unavailable I also tried pressing insert and escape but no 
luck does anyone on the list know what I can try?

I am running windows 8.1 and Jaws 15
Thanks in advance

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President, National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey Senior Division
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[JAWS-Users] when updating Mcafee internet security suite

2015-12-07 Thread anna vimini
when I am manually updating McAfee security suite how do I cancel the 
update if I decide to suddenly stop the update?
I know I am to go to cancel but the cancel button is always saying not 
available I tried just entering on the button but nothing happens 
because it is unavailable I also tried pressing insert and escape but no 
luck does anyone on the list know what I can try?

I am running windows 8.1 and Jaws 15
Thanks in advance

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Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

2015-12-07 Thread LeDon Becker

Thank you. I'll do that. LeDon.
-Original Message- 
From: Shane Hecker

Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 5:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

It is likely you still have Jaws 16 on your machine. That is unless you
uninstalled it after installing Jaws 17. If you did not uninstall the
older version and you still wish to do so, go to programs and features
in the control panel, find Jaws 16 then right click it and hit
uninstall/change. Remove Jaws only, do not remove the shared components.
One more thing, make sure all your programs behave with Jaws 17.
Sometimes, programs that work well under one version of Jaws don't work
so well under the newer version.

Shane

On 12/7/2015 1:39 AM, LeDon Becker wrote:
I updated from jaws sixteen to jaws seventeen.. Now for a question. Do I 
now have jaws sixteen and seventeen on my computer at the same time? How 
do I find out. And if I do still have jaws sixteen on my computer, how do 
I remove it? Thank you.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

2015-12-07 Thread LeDon Becker
How do you go about switching from one jaws version to another one? Just 
wondering, in case I need to do that. LeDon.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B

Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen

Hi LeDon,

It might be a good idea to leave a 2nd version of Jaws on your computer.
Many people do this just in case they have a problem, let's say Jaws 17
isn't reading a webpage correctly, you can then unload Jaws 17 & start Jaws
16 to finish what you're doing.  Personally I run Jaws 16 as my default
because Jaws 17 doesn't work with Outlook Express well at all.
Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: LeDon Becker

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 11:39 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] After updating to seventeen


I updated from jaws sixteen to jaws seventeen.. Now for a question. Do I now
have jaws sixteen and seventeen on my computer at the same time? How do I
find out. And if I do still have jaws sixteen on my computer, how do I
remove it? Thank you.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] when updating McAfee internet security suite

2015-12-07 Thread Pinky
Why do you want to stop the update?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of anna vimini
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 1:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] when updating McAfee internet security suite

Hi Janie ,
I just figured out what you meant by saying this does alt f4 work?
no alt F4 does not work it just closes the program off but the update does
not cancel out.
Re: [JAWS-Users] when updating Mcafee internet security suite does alt f4
work?

-Original Message- From: anna vimini Sent: Monday, December 07,
2015 1:23 PM To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] when updating Mcafee internet security suite when I
am manually updating McAfee security suite how do I cancel the update if I
decide to suddenly stop the update?
I know I am to go to cancel but the cancel button is always saying not
available I tried just entering on the button but nothing happens because it
is unavailable I also tried pressing insert and escape but no luck does
anyone on the list know what I can try?
I am running windows 8.1 and Jaws 15
Thanks in advance

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Removing individual users from drop box

2015-12-07 Thread TheHangMan
Hey DJ,
I haven't done it in a while.

Highlight the folder,
Then press shift/F10 and look for a delete option.
I know the delete key works here...


Jorge


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of DJ Reese
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 11:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Removing individual users from drop box

Hello list:

Subject says it all.  Using Jaws 15 with Windows 7.  Thanks!

DJ Reese

Email: saturdaynightdancepa...@peachtreeradiofm.com
Twitter: SaturdayNightD1
Phone: 404-461-9323
Saturday night 7:00 pm EST to midnight.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Jaws start up options

2015-12-07 Thread TheHangMan

Hi,
The fix was most likely a restart, because that system came from Wind 7.

Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Don & Cher
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 8:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Jaws start up options

Did you get this resolved? When I "  a.. Select the Start JAWS at the Log On
Screen check box." the second checkbox is unchecked by default. 

Cher


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 12:04 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [Bulk] [JAWS-Users] Jaws start up options

Win 10 and Jaws 17.

I am having difficulty with the Jaws start up. Jaws does not start
automatically nor do I get the Windows chimes at start up. I have followed
the steps in the Jaws help dialogue:
  a.. Select the Start JAWS at the Log On Screen check box. 
  b.. Clear the Start JAWS after Log On for all Users check box. 
  c.. Select Always in the Start JAWS after Log On for this User combo box. 
  d.. click OK to save settings.
Each time I do the above I get chimes when I click OK and Jaws goes silent
and I have to hit escape to get it talking again.
When I go back to the dialogue the first two check marks are reversed. 
The same settings are set in the start up wizard. What am I doing wrong?
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[JAWS-Users] vipre 2016 and jaws 17

2015-12-07 Thread Kevin
I am experiencing pauses of jaws with windows 10 using internet explorer and 
typing file details.  I contacted FS about this and this is what they said

Try making sure the Freedom Scientific JAWS� screen reading software is set as 
an exception for your virus software. This will confirm your virus application 
is not seeing the JAWS� screen reading software as a virus and impacting the 
functionality. Also, if possible, try excluding the Freedom Scientific folders 
from the virus scans, and see if this resolve the issue you are experiencing.




I use vipre antivirus 2016 how would I do what FS instructed!

Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Jaws start up options

2015-12-07 Thread T. Civitello
Not so. I have sut down and started several times and Jaws will still not 
start up at logon.  Tom


-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan

Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 11:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Jaws start up options


Hi,
The fix was most likely a restart, because that system came from Wind 7.

Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Don & Cher
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 8:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Jaws start up options

Did you get this resolved? When I "  a.. Select the Start JAWS at the Log On
Screen check box." the second checkbox is unchecked by default.

Cher


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of T. Civitello
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 12:04 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [Bulk] [JAWS-Users] Jaws start up options

Win 10 and Jaws 17.

I am having difficulty with the Jaws start up. Jaws does not start
automatically nor do I get the Windows chimes at start up. I have followed
the steps in the Jaws help dialogue:
 a.. Select the Start JAWS at the Log On Screen check box.
 b.. Clear the Start JAWS after Log On for all Users check box.
 c.. Select Always in the Start JAWS after Log On for this User combo box.
 d.. click OK to save settings.
Each time I do the above I get chimes when I click OK and Jaws goes silent
and I have to hit escape to get it talking again.
When I go back to the dialogue the first two check marks are reversed.
The same settings are set in the start up wizard. What am I doing wrong?
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