Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4

2016-05-21 Thread petras

I was talking about my ipone backups.

- Original Message -
From: "Holger Fiallo"  wrote:
Hi,
Good job, Holger!
CTRL+J is the key.  Now, you can really enjoy.  Take care.


-Original Message-
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4

OK.  I was unable to setup old iTunes.  Therefore I am
using iTunes
12.4.  I think I figureout that if you do control j and select
what you
need

for aalbum, audiobooks or author it will show your list.  Also
make sure in
general you check list.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4

2016-05-21 Thread Holger Fiallo
you mean old libraries? if so in general when you tab you will see your use 
arrow down to see any other.


-Original Message- 
From: petras

Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 2:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4

I have a similar problem.  How do I delete old itunes backups? My
storage space is very low now.

- Original Message -
From: "Holger Fiallo"  wrote:
Hi,
Good job, Holger!
CTRL+J is the key.  Now, you can really enjoy.  Take care.


-Original Message-
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4

OK.  I was unable to setup old iTunes.  Therefore I am
using iTunes
12.4.  I think I figureout that if you do control j and select
what you
need

for aalbum, audiobooks or author it will show your list.  Also
make sure in
general you check list.

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4

2016-05-21 Thread petras
I have a similar problem.  How do I delete old itunes backups? My 
storage space is very low now.


- Original Message -
From: "Holger Fiallo"  wrote:
Hi,
Good job, Holger!
CTRL+J is the key.  Now, you can really enjoy.  Take care.


-Original Message-
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4

OK.  I was unable to setup old iTunes.  Therefore I am 
using iTunes
12.4.  I think I figureout that if you do control j and select 
what you

need

for aalbum, audiobooks or author it will show your list.  Also 
make sure in

general you check list.

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Character under cursor repeatedly announced in command prompt windows - Windows 10/JAWS 17

2016-05-21 Thread Jason White
Yes, I followed the recommendation and left the cursor size set to small, but
the problem still occurred.

I also pointed out in the report to Technical Support that I followed their
cursor size recommendation.

Martin Blackwell  wrote:
> I'm curious. Did you leave the cursor size set to small? That's what FS
> recommends otherwise you get the symptoms you describe. Just a thought.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 11:50 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Character under cursor repeatedly announced
> in command prompt windows - Windows 10/JAWS 17
> 
> Hi
> 
> I have encountered the problem of having the character under the JAWS cursor
> repeatedly spoken.  So Please let us know the final response you receive
> from Freedom Scientific.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Jason White
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 05:07
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Character under cursor repeatedly announced in
> command prompt windows - Windows 10/JAWS 17
> 
> A quick update: this issue can be easily reproduced, so I've sent a report
> to Freedom Scientific Technical Support. It's either their bug or
> Microsoft's bug - I don't mind who is responsible, as long as this and other
> bug reports reach the right person ultimately.
> 
> Jason White  wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Under JAWS 17 (latest update), and Windows 10 (all updates applied), 
> > if I create a command prompt window (e.g., by starting PowerShell), 
> > then place the cursor on a letter or other character that JAWS 
> > announces, it will repeatedly announce the character that the cursor 
> > is
> on.
> > 
> > The output on the braille display is fine and does not change until I 
> > move the cursor.
> > 
> > Is there a known solution? Some of us rely heavily on command-based 
> > tools even under MS-Windows.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [Bulk] Re: Character under cursor repeatedly announced in command prompt windows - Windows 10/JAWS 17

2016-05-21 Thread Martin Blackwell
I'm curious. Did you leave the cursor size set to small? That's what FS
recommends otherwise you get the symptoms you describe. Just a thought.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 11:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [JAWS-Users] Character under cursor repeatedly announced
in command prompt windows - Windows 10/JAWS 17

Hi

I have encountered the problem of having the character under the JAWS cursor
repeatedly spoken.  So Please let us know the final response you receive
from Freedom Scientific.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 05:07
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Character under cursor repeatedly announced in
command prompt windows - Windows 10/JAWS 17

A quick update: this issue can be easily reproduced, so I've sent a report
to Freedom Scientific Technical Support. It's either their bug or
Microsoft's bug - I don't mind who is responsible, as long as this and other
bug reports reach the right person ultimately.

Jason White  wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Under JAWS 17 (latest update), and Windows 10 (all updates applied), 
> if I create a command prompt window (e.g., by starting PowerShell), 
> then place the cursor on a letter or other character that JAWS 
> announces, it will repeatedly announce the character that the cursor 
> is
on.
> 
> The output on the braille display is fine and does not change until I 
> move the cursor.
> 
> Is there a known solution? Some of us rely heavily on command-based 
> tools even under MS-Windows.
> 
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4

2016-05-21 Thread Holger Fiallo

yes. but it makes easy to find what yu want. 12.4 is a pain.

-Original Message- 
From: Aidan

Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 12:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4

That is old news, it was always that way.

On 21/05/2016, David Moore  wrote:

Hi,
Good job, Holger!
CTRL+J is the key. Now, you can really enjoy. Take care.


-Original Message-
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4

OK. I was unable to setup old iTunes. Therefore I am using iTunes
12.4. I think I figureout that if you do control j and select what you 
need


for aalbum, audiobooks or author it will show your list. Also make sure in
general you check list.

Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Character under cursor repeatedly announced in command prompt windows - Windows 10/JAWS 17

2016-05-21 Thread Mike O'Brien
Hi

I have encountered the problem of having the character under the JAWS cursor
repeatedly spoken.  So Please let us know the final response you receive
from Freedom Scientific.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 05:07
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Character under cursor repeatedly announced in
command prompt windows - Windows 10/JAWS 17

A quick update: this issue can be easily reproduced, so I've sent a report
to Freedom Scientific Technical Support. It's either their bug or
Microsoft's bug - I don't mind who is responsible, as long as this and other
bug reports reach the right person ultimately.

Jason White  wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Under JAWS 17 (latest update), and Windows 10 (all updates applied), 
> if I create a command prompt window (e.g., by starting PowerShell), 
> then place the cursor on a letter or other character that JAWS 
> announces, it will repeatedly announce the character that the cursor is
on.
> 
> The output on the braille display is fine and does not change until I 
> move the cursor.
> 
> Is there a known solution? Some of us rely heavily on command-based 
> tools even under MS-Windows.
> 
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4 my observations so far

2016-05-21 Thread Aidan
And oneday while you stil busy sorting your music, then apple will
take ITunes away, it can happen at some point, they already
considering removing download music in favor of streaming music.

On 21/05/2016, David Moore  wrote:
> Hi Jim,
> Everything you reported is happening to me exactly. You have made me feel so
>
> much better, because I thought I had messed things up in my settings. I
> thought that it was the up date, but now, you have confirmed that is indeed
>
> the case. Guys, what Jim said is totally true for me. You should indeed
> still land on the artist list, but I have to do the same playing around with
>
> the up and down arrow to get on the artist I want. I know this is
> irritating, because I love to fly down the list of my artists to decide what
>
> I want to play. However, like Jim said, we will love iTunes even more when
> FS does its thing. We must all remember that we blind people are the
> minority in this world, and the sighted are the ones technology is being
> made for. The only thing we can do as a minority is to be patient, more
> patient, and then thankful for what we do have as a minority. The fact that
>
> we can use the Windows OS at all is a mircle that the blind were very scared
>
> about before Ted Hentor and other positive blind people programmed JAWS to
> interact with Windows. We should try not to complane, but to make these set
>
> backs an exciting moment to make us even more patient and stronger. We
> should speak up to tech companies about accessibility, but with the attitude
>
> of educating them, because we are the minority who does need to speak up. We
>
> must speak up in a positive and loving way, though, and quit complaining.
> Thanks a lot, Jim for working with iTunes to give us this report. I have
> worked with it for hours. I stayed up all night trying to figure out why it
>
> is acting the way it does and to try to find work arounds. That is what we
> must do. We have to play with software with total patience and try to figure
>
> out a way we can use it instead of taking so much energy away from us to
> complain. We will always have to work harder to have what we want in this
> world, because we are a very small minority of the entire population. Take
> care all, and do not give up on iTunes, because it is the best way I have
> been able to organize my music, pod casts, and on and on. Let us give thanks
>
> that we can use it at all. Have a great one, guys.
>
> -Originalessage-
> From: Dave Carlson
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 2:37 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4 my observations so far
>
> Agree. I'm sticking to the devil I know, rather than the one I don't.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rose Combs" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4 my observations so far
>
>
> Don't hold your breath!  Then again, why do we as customers to Apple
> products always have to wait weeks to months for updates to make something
> work that should work immediately!  I don't end up where you do when iTunes
> opens either.
>
>
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Jim Flusche
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:57 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4 my observations so far
>
> Hi again Jaws Users group, let me start off with the positive review of
> iTunes 12.4.
>
> The newly designed iTunes store is awesome, the page's load very fast, no
> waiting or hesitation, same when you press the backspace key to go back to
> the previous page, works great.  The only thing that needs to be fixed by
> Freedom Scientific is to make Jaws see the visited links.  I was able to
> buy
> several albums with no issues, they downloaded a lot faster as well. So I
> give iTunes an A-minus for the store, would have been an A+, if Jaws
> announced the visited links.
>
> Now when you first open iTunes, for example on my computer, iTunes opens to
> the Artists list.
>
> As I use the down arrow key, Jaws reads what seems to be some kind of a
> code
> before the name of the artist, Jaws reads: "Description L1."
>
> As I down arrow through the list of artist, sometimes I must press the down
> arrow two times and then up arrow one time, and then down arrow again to
> show the next artist, or when I use first letter navigation, I must do the
> same thing to get Jaws to read the next artist, so they get a C-minus.
>
> As you press the F6 key to jump across the interface, they have changed
> things as well.  I personally think when Freedom Scientific makes the
> necessary changes to Jaws for the new iTunes interface, I think we will
> like
> it much better than any previous version of iTunes.
>
> I am 

Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4

2016-05-21 Thread Aidan
That is old news, it was always that way.

On 21/05/2016, David Moore  wrote:
> Hi,
> Good job, Holger!
> CTRL+J is the key. Now, you can really enjoy. Take care.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Holger Fiallo
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.4
>
> OK. I was unable to setup old iTunes. Therefore I am using iTunes
> 12.4. I think I figureout that if you do control j and select what you need
>
> for aalbum, audiobooks or author it will show your list. Also make sure in
> general you check list.
>
> Holger Fiallo
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>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Character under cursor repeatedly announced in command prompt windows - Windows 10/JAWS 17

2016-05-21 Thread Jason White
Thank you. I've been considering this option. How well do JAWS and NVDA
co-exist on a Windows 10 machine - that is, are there any problems resulting
from having both installed at once? Obviously, only one of them can be running
at a time.

I'll need NVDA for work in order to test Web-based technologies anyway. Under
Windows 7, it didn't seem to cause any instability when installed alongside
JAWS.

David Bailes  wrote:
> Hi Jason,
> you could use NVDA for command prompt windows, until Jaws is fixed,
> 
> David.
> 
> original message:
> A quick update: this issue can be easily reproduced, so I've sent a report to 
> Freedom Scientific Technical Support. It's either their bug or Microsoft's 
> bug - I don't mind who is responsible, as long as this and other bug reports 
> reach the right person ultimately.
> 
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Character under cursor repeatedly announced in command prompt windows - Windows 10/JAWS 17

2016-05-21 Thread David Bailes
Hi Jason,
you could use NVDA for command prompt windows, until Jaws is fixed,

David.

original message:
A quick update: this issue can be easily reproduced, so I've sent a report to 
Freedom Scientific Technical Support. It's either their bug or Microsoft's 
bug - I don't mind who is responsible, as long as this and other bug reports 
reach the right person ultimately.

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