Re: [JAWS-Users] mathML and jaws

2016-08-27 Thread Jason White
I have read that the latest version of the Duxbury Braille Translator allows
you to enter mathematical braille, hten translate it into TeX notation for
printing.

At the CSUN conference this year, software developers from Pearson
demonstrated a Web-based mathematics editor that supports Nemeth code braille.

It can be used interactively by both blind and sighted people. It doens't
support calculus or university-level mathematics at the moment (or at least it
dind't in March - that may have changed by now). For secondary school algebra
prior to calculus, however, it should be very suitable. It is designed for and
used in high-stakes assessments developed at Pearson. I don't know how well it
works with JAWS. If I recall correctly, it was run with NVDA for the
demonstration.

I would suggest joining the blindmath mailing list, or at least reading their
recent archives, as they've had a very long discussion thread on this topic
lately.

Josh Kennedy  wrote:
> I know with jaws we can read math content on the web and I guess, see it in
> nemeth on a braille display. but is there any way we can easily write mathML
> and edit equations alongside sighted people and they see our changes in
> print and we see theirs in braille?



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[JAWS-Users] mathML and jaws

2016-08-27 Thread Josh Kennedy

hi

I know with jaws we can read math content on the web and I guess, see it 
in nemeth on a braille display. but is there any way we can easily write 
mathML and edit equations alongside sighted people and they see our 
changes in print and we see theirs in braille?





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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

2016-08-27 Thread Mike B.
Hi Wayne,

Here is the direct download link for the latest Jaws16:

ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/J16.0.4468enu-x64.exe


Take care.
Mike
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From: wayne smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install


Thanks, since I am using Windows 7 with MS Office 2010 and my impression is
that JAWS 17 is for Windows 10 I chose version 16.  I am eligible for JAWS
17 and have a disk on my desk.  Please send me the link for 16.  Will I need
sighted help for installing the download from the link.  I turned on
Narrator but it seems very limited in Windows 7.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Wayne,

Instead of waiting for a replacement disc, you and your wife could download
JAWS from the FS website and commence installation from that file. At any
rate, I'm pretty sure you don't need to have installed JAWS with a disc the
first time. When my hard disc had to be replaced three months ago, I believe
I started JAWS from the downloaded file.

Are you eligible for JAWS 17, or must you use 16? If locating the download
page is a problem, since you can't operate the PC yourself, post again and I
or someone will get the link.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 5:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hello Mike,

There is not  a JAWS icon on the desktop.  There is a FS3 Icon.  When I type
Jaws in the Windows key search field nothing comes up.  I never got a prompt
for the kind of install, standard or custom as I have in previous installs
and I was never asked for my Jaws owner key.  I have never had these issues
before when using a disk.  I am wondering if I got a corrupted disk.  The
issue now is what to do next.  The computer did shut down and restart so the
files are there somewhere.  I did get some voice prompts so the speakers are
functioning.  I may have to contact FS support next week.  I don't think
that I should insert the disk a second time unless somebody thinks that may
do it.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hi Wayne,

Do you have a Jaws icon on the desktop?  Did you try pressing enter on the
Jaws icon if 1 is there?  Are your speakers / volume on?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
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From: wayne smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:43 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install


Hello-

I just got my old computer back with a new hard drive.  I have Windows 7 on
it so I used my JAWS 16 disk to install.  First it brought up a list of
options that my sighted wife had to read to me because there was no speech.
I selected run from media and the install started.  It did the install and
required me to select ok to reboot the system.  It restarted and there were
clicks and the sound of the disk spinning.  Now the computer has gone silent
and there is no speech.  In previous disk loads it asks what kind of
features and then for my product code.  I am sitting here for 15 minutes and
nothing.  My wife came back and said that only the desktop is showing.  I
hit the windows key and typed in JAWS but that did nothing.  I am sitting
here with a silent computer.  This has never happened before.  Any ideas?



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

2016-08-27 Thread Adrian Spratt
Finally, here's the FS page where you'll find the links to the 64-bit and 
32-bit versions of JAWS 16:
https://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/JAWS/PreviousVersions

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Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Thanks, since I am using Windows 7 with MS Office 2010 and my impression is 
that JAWS 17 is for Windows 10 I chose version 16.  I am eligible for JAWS
17 and have a disk on my desk.  Please send me the link for 16.  Will I need 
sighted help for installing the download from the link.  I turned on Narrator 
but it seems very limited in Windows 7.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Wayne,

Instead of waiting for a replacement disc, you and your wife could download 
JAWS from the FS website and commence installation from that file. At any rate, 
I'm pretty sure you don't need to have installed JAWS with a disc the first 
time. When my hard disc had to be replaced three months ago, I believe I 
started JAWS from the downloaded file.

Are you eligible for JAWS 17, or must you use 16? If locating the download page 
is a problem, since you can't operate the PC yourself, post again and I or 
someone will get the link.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 5:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hello Mike,

There is not  a JAWS icon on the desktop.  There is a FS3 Icon.  When I type 
Jaws in the Windows key search field nothing comes up.  I never got a prompt 
for the kind of install, standard or custom as I have in previous installs and 
I was never asked for my Jaws owner key.  I have never had these issues before 
when using a disk.  I am wondering if I got a corrupted disk.  The issue now is 
what to do next.  The computer did shut down and restart so the files are there 
somewhere.  I did get some voice prompts so the speakers are functioning.  I 
may have to contact FS support next week.  I don't think that I should insert 
the disk a second time unless somebody thinks that may do it.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hi Wayne,

Do you have a Jaws icon on the desktop?  Did you try pressing enter on the Jaws 
icon if 1 is there?  Are your speakers / volume on?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: wayne smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:43 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install


Hello-

I just got my old computer back with a new hard drive.  I have Windows 7 on it 
so I used my JAWS 16 disk to install.  First it brought up a list of options 
that my sighted wife had to read to me because there was no speech.
I selected run from media and the install started.  It did the install and 
required me to select ok to reboot the system.  It restarted and there were 
clicks and the sound of the disk spinning.  Now the computer has gone silent 
and there is no speech.  In previous disk loads it asks what kind of features 
and then for my product code.  I am sitting here for 15 minutes and nothing.  
My wife came back and said that only the desktop is showing.  I hit the windows 
key and typed in JAWS but that did nothing.  I am sitting here with a silent 
computer.  This has never happened before.  Any ideas?



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

2016-08-27 Thread Adrian Spratt
Wayne,

I'm following up with the download links for the current release of JAWS 17. 
These come courtesy of Mike B back on August 1.

Below are the direct download links for the latest Jaws update + what's new in 
this J17.0.2619 release.

32 Bit:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/172619M0B21J/J17.0.2619enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/172619M0B21J/J17.0.2619enu-x64.exe

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Thanks, since I am using Windows 7 with MS Office 2010 and my impression is 
that JAWS 17 is for Windows 10 I chose version 16.  I am eligible for JAWS
17 and have a disk on my desk.  Please send me the link for 16.  Will I need 
sighted help for installing the download from the link.  I turned on Narrator 
but it seems very limited in Windows 7.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Wayne,

Instead of waiting for a replacement disc, you and your wife could download 
JAWS from the FS website and commence installation from that file. At any rate, 
I'm pretty sure you don't need to have installed JAWS with a disc the first 
time. When my hard disc had to be replaced three months ago, I believe I 
started JAWS from the downloaded file.

Are you eligible for JAWS 17, or must you use 16? If locating the download page 
is a problem, since you can't operate the PC yourself, post again and I or 
someone will get the link.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 5:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hello Mike,

There is not  a JAWS icon on the desktop.  There is a FS3 Icon.  When I type 
Jaws in the Windows key search field nothing comes up.  I never got a prompt 
for the kind of install, standard or custom as I have in previous installs and 
I was never asked for my Jaws owner key.  I have never had these issues before 
when using a disk.  I am wondering if I got a corrupted disk.  The issue now is 
what to do next.  The computer did shut down and restart so the files are there 
somewhere.  I did get some voice prompts so the speakers are functioning.  I 
may have to contact FS support next week.  I don't think that I should insert 
the disk a second time unless somebody thinks that may do it.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hi Wayne,

Do you have a Jaws icon on the desktop?  Did you try pressing enter on the Jaws 
icon if 1 is there?  Are your speakers / volume on?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: wayne smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:43 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install


Hello-

I just got my old computer back with a new hard drive.  I have Windows 7 on it 
so I used my JAWS 16 disk to install.  First it brought up a list of options 
that my sighted wife had to read to me because there was no speech.
I selected run from media and the install started.  It did the install and 
required me to select ok to reboot the system.  It restarted and there were 
clicks and the sound of the disk spinning.  Now the computer has gone silent 
and there is no speech.  In previous disk loads it asks what kind of features 
and then for my product code.  I am sitting here for 15 minutes and nothing.  
My wife came back and said that only the desktop is showing.  I hit the windows 
key and typed in JAWS but that did nothing.  I am sitting here with a silent 
computer.  This has never happened before.  Any ideas?



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

2016-08-27 Thread Adrian Spratt
Wayne, I use JAWS 17 with Windows 7, and it works well. Use that disc. 

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Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Thanks, since I am using Windows 7 with MS Office 2010 and my impression is 
that JAWS 17 is for Windows 10 I chose version 16.  I am eligible for JAWS
17 and have a disk on my desk.  Please send me the link for 16.  Will I need 
sighted help for installing the download from the link.  I turned on Narrator 
but it seems very limited in Windows 7.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Wayne,

Instead of waiting for a replacement disc, you and your wife could download 
JAWS from the FS website and commence installation from that file. At any rate, 
I'm pretty sure you don't need to have installed JAWS with a disc the first 
time. When my hard disc had to be replaced three months ago, I believe I 
started JAWS from the downloaded file.

Are you eligible for JAWS 17, or must you use 16? If locating the download page 
is a problem, since you can't operate the PC yourself, post again and I or 
someone will get the link.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 5:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hello Mike,

There is not  a JAWS icon on the desktop.  There is a FS3 Icon.  When I type 
Jaws in the Windows key search field nothing comes up.  I never got a prompt 
for the kind of install, standard or custom as I have in previous installs and 
I was never asked for my Jaws owner key.  I have never had these issues before 
when using a disk.  I am wondering if I got a corrupted disk.  The issue now is 
what to do next.  The computer did shut down and restart so the files are there 
somewhere.  I did get some voice prompts so the speakers are functioning.  I 
may have to contact FS support next week.  I don't think that I should insert 
the disk a second time unless somebody thinks that may do it.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hi Wayne,

Do you have a Jaws icon on the desktop?  Did you try pressing enter on the Jaws 
icon if 1 is there?  Are your speakers / volume on?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: wayne smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:43 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install


Hello-

I just got my old computer back with a new hard drive.  I have Windows 7 on it 
so I used my JAWS 16 disk to install.  First it brought up a list of options 
that my sighted wife had to read to me because there was no speech.
I selected run from media and the install started.  It did the install and 
required me to select ok to reboot the system.  It restarted and there were 
clicks and the sound of the disk spinning.  Now the computer has gone silent 
and there is no speech.  In previous disk loads it asks what kind of features 
and then for my product code.  I am sitting here for 15 minutes and nothing.  
My wife came back and said that only the desktop is showing.  I hit the windows 
key and typed in JAWS but that did nothing.  I am sitting here with a silent 
computer.  This has never happened before.  Any ideas?



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

2016-08-27 Thread David Ferrin

Just install it over the top of the previous attempt.

-Original Message- 
From: wayne smith

Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 5:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Mike, do you think that it could re-install it with, possibly, some files
already loaded?  Would it work like a new install or could it cause
conflicts?

Wayne

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hi Wayne,

It sure sounds like Jaws didn't get installed.  Have you tried using
Narrator to look around on the computer?
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: wayne smith

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install


Hello Mike,

There is not  a JAWS icon on the desktop.  There is a FS3 Icon.  When I type
Jaws in the Windows key search field nothing comes up.  I never got a prompt
for the kind of install, standard or custom as I have in previous installs
and I was never asked for my Jaws owner key.  I have never had these issues
before when using a disk.  I am wondering if I got a corrupted disk.  The
issue now is what to do next.  The computer did shut down and restart so the
files are there somewhere.  I did get some voice prompts so the speakers are
functioning.  I may have to contact FS support next week.  I don't think
that I should insert the disk a second time unless somebody thinks that may
do it.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hi Wayne,

Do you have a Jaws icon on the desktop?  Did you try pressing enter on the
Jaws icon if 1 is there?  Are your speakers / volume on?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: wayne smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:43 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install


Hello-

I just got my old computer back with a new hard drive.  I have Windows 7 on
it so I used my JAWS 16 disk to install.  First it brought up a list of
options that my sighted wife had to read to me because there was no speech.
I selected run from media and the install started.  It did the install and
required me to select ok to reboot the system.  It restarted and there were
clicks and the sound of the disk spinning.  Now the computer has gone silent
and there is no speech.  In previous disk loads it asks what kind of
features and then for my product code.  I am sitting here for 15 minutes and
nothing.  My wife came back and said that only the desktop is showing.  I
hit the windows key and typed in JAWS but that did nothing.  I am sitting
here with a silent computer.  This has never happened before.  Any ideas?



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

2016-08-27 Thread wayne smith
Thanks, since I am using Windows 7 with MS Office 2010 and my impression is
that JAWS 17 is for Windows 10 I chose version 16.  I am eligible for JAWS
17 and have a disk on my desk.  Please send me the link for 16.  Will I need
sighted help for installing the download from the link.  I turned on
Narrator but it seems very limited in Windows 7.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Wayne,

Instead of waiting for a replacement disc, you and your wife could download
JAWS from the FS website and commence installation from that file. At any
rate, I'm pretty sure you don't need to have installed JAWS with a disc the
first time. When my hard disc had to be replaced three months ago, I believe
I started JAWS from the downloaded file.

Are you eligible for JAWS 17, or must you use 16? If locating the download
page is a problem, since you can't operate the PC yourself, post again and I
or someone will get the link.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 5:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hello Mike,

There is not  a JAWS icon on the desktop.  There is a FS3 Icon.  When I type
Jaws in the Windows key search field nothing comes up.  I never got a prompt
for the kind of install, standard or custom as I have in previous installs
and I was never asked for my Jaws owner key.  I have never had these issues
before when using a disk.  I am wondering if I got a corrupted disk.  The
issue now is what to do next.  The computer did shut down and restart so the
files are there somewhere.  I did get some voice prompts so the speakers are
functioning.  I may have to contact FS support next week.  I don't think
that I should insert the disk a second time unless somebody thinks that may
do it.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hi Wayne,

Do you have a Jaws icon on the desktop?  Did you try pressing enter on the
Jaws icon if 1 is there?  Are your speakers / volume on?
Take care.
Mike
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From: wayne smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:43 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install


Hello-

I just got my old computer back with a new hard drive.  I have Windows 7 on
it so I used my JAWS 16 disk to install.  First it brought up a list of
options that my sighted wife had to read to me because there was no speech.
I selected run from media and the install started.  It did the install and
required me to select ok to reboot the system.  It restarted and there were
clicks and the sound of the disk spinning.  Now the computer has gone silent
and there is no speech.  In previous disk loads it asks what kind of
features and then for my product code.  I am sitting here for 15 minutes and
nothing.  My wife came back and said that only the desktop is showing.  I
hit the windows key and typed in JAWS but that did nothing.  I am sitting
here with a silent computer.  This has never happened before.  Any ideas?



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

2016-08-27 Thread wayne smith
Mike, do you think that it could re-install it with, possibly, some files
already loaded?  Would it work like a new install or could it cause
conflicts?

Wayne

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hi Wayne,

It sure sounds like Jaws didn't get installed.  Have you tried using 
Narrator to look around on the computer?
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: wayne smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install


Hello Mike,

There is not  a JAWS icon on the desktop.  There is a FS3 Icon.  When I type
Jaws in the Windows key search field nothing comes up.  I never got a prompt
for the kind of install, standard or custom as I have in previous installs
and I was never asked for my Jaws owner key.  I have never had these issues
before when using a disk.  I am wondering if I got a corrupted disk.  The
issue now is what to do next.  The computer did shut down and restart so the
files are there somewhere.  I did get some voice prompts so the speakers are
functioning.  I may have to contact FS support next week.  I don't think
that I should insert the disk a second time unless somebody thinks that may
do it.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hi Wayne,

Do you have a Jaws icon on the desktop?  Did you try pressing enter on the
Jaws icon if 1 is there?  Are your speakers / volume on?
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: wayne smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:43 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install


Hello-

I just got my old computer back with a new hard drive.  I have Windows 7 on
it so I used my JAWS 16 disk to install.  First it brought up a list of
options that my sighted wife had to read to me because there was no speech.
I selected run from media and the install started.  It did the install and
required me to select ok to reboot the system.  It restarted and there were
clicks and the sound of the disk spinning.  Now the computer has gone silent
and there is no speech.  In previous disk loads it asks what kind of
features and then for my product code.  I am sitting here for 15 minutes and
nothing.  My wife came back and said that only the desktop is showing.  I
hit the windows key and typed in JAWS but that did nothing.  I am sitting
here with a silent computer.  This has never happened before.  Any ideas?



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

2016-08-27 Thread Adrian Spratt
Wayne,

Instead of waiting for a replacement disc, you and your wife could download 
JAWS from the FS website and commence installation from that file. At any rate, 
I'm pretty sure you don't need to have installed JAWS with a disc the first 
time. When my hard disc had to be replaced three months ago, I believe I 
started JAWS from the downloaded file.

Are you eligible for JAWS 17, or must you use 16? If locating the download page 
is a problem, since you can't operate the PC yourself, post again and I or 
someone will get the link.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of wayne smith
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 5:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hello Mike,

There is not  a JAWS icon on the desktop.  There is a FS3 Icon.  When I type 
Jaws in the Windows key search field nothing comes up.  I never got a prompt 
for the kind of install, standard or custom as I have in previous installs and 
I was never asked for my Jaws owner key.  I have never had these issues before 
when using a disk.  I am wondering if I got a corrupted disk.  The issue now is 
what to do next.  The computer did shut down and restart so the files are there 
somewhere.  I did get some voice prompts so the speakers are functioning.  I 
may have to contact FS support next week.  I don't think that I should insert 
the disk a second time unless somebody thinks that may do it.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hi Wayne,

Do you have a Jaws icon on the desktop?  Did you try pressing enter on the Jaws 
icon if 1 is there?  Are your speakers / volume on?
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: wayne smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:43 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install


Hello-

I just got my old computer back with a new hard drive.  I have Windows 7 on it 
so I used my JAWS 16 disk to install.  First it brought up a list of options 
that my sighted wife had to read to me because there was no speech.
I selected run from media and the install started.  It did the install and 
required me to select ok to reboot the system.  It restarted and there were 
clicks and the sound of the disk spinning.  Now the computer has gone silent 
and there is no speech.  In previous disk loads it asks what kind of features 
and then for my product code.  I am sitting here for 15 minutes and nothing.  
My wife came back and said that only the desktop is showing.  I hit the windows 
key and typed in JAWS but that did nothing.  I am sitting here with a silent 
computer.  This has never happened before.  Any ideas?



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

2016-08-27 Thread Mike B.
Hi Wayne,

It sure sounds like Jaws didn't get installed.  Have you tried using 
Narrator to look around on the computer?
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: wayne smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install


Hello Mike,

There is not  a JAWS icon on the desktop.  There is a FS3 Icon.  When I type
Jaws in the Windows key search field nothing comes up.  I never got a prompt
for the kind of install, standard or custom as I have in previous installs
and I was never asked for my Jaws owner key.  I have never had these issues
before when using a disk.  I am wondering if I got a corrupted disk.  The
issue now is what to do next.  The computer did shut down and restart so the
files are there somewhere.  I did get some voice prompts so the speakers are
functioning.  I may have to contact FS support next week.  I don't think
that I should insert the disk a second time unless somebody thinks that may
do it.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hi Wayne,

Do you have a Jaws icon on the desktop?  Did you try pressing enter on the
Jaws icon if 1 is there?  Are your speakers / volume on?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: wayne smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:43 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install


Hello-

I just got my old computer back with a new hard drive.  I have Windows 7 on
it so I used my JAWS 16 disk to install.  First it brought up a list of
options that my sighted wife had to read to me because there was no speech.
I selected run from media and the install started.  It did the install and
required me to select ok to reboot the system.  It restarted and there were
clicks and the sound of the disk spinning.  Now the computer has gone silent
and there is no speech.  In previous disk loads it asks what kind of
features and then for my product code.  I am sitting here for 15 minutes and
nothing.  My wife came back and said that only the desktop is showing.  I
hit the windows key and typed in JAWS but that did nothing.  I am sitting
here with a silent computer.  This has never happened before.  Any ideas?



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

2016-08-27 Thread wayne smith
Hello Mike,

There is not  a JAWS icon on the desktop.  There is a FS3 Icon.  When I type
Jaws in the Windows key search field nothing comes up.  I never got a prompt
for the kind of install, standard or custom as I have in previous installs
and I was never asked for my Jaws owner key.  I have never had these issues
before when using a disk.  I am wondering if I got a corrupted disk.  The
issue now is what to do next.  The computer did shut down and restart so the
files are there somewhere.  I did get some voice prompts so the speakers are
functioning.  I may have to contact FS support next week.  I don't think
that I should insert the disk a second time unless somebody thinks that may
do it.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

Hi Wayne,

Do you have a Jaws icon on the desktop?  Did you try pressing enter on the
Jaws icon if 1 is there?  Are your speakers / volume on?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: wayne smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:43 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install


Hello-

I just got my old computer back with a new hard drive.  I have Windows 7 on
it so I used my JAWS 16 disk to install.  First it brought up a list of
options that my sighted wife had to read to me because there was no speech.
I selected run from media and the install started.  It did the install and
required me to select ok to reboot the system.  It restarted and there were
clicks and the sound of the disk spinning.  Now the computer has gone silent
and there is no speech.  In previous disk loads it asks what kind of
features and then for my product code.  I am sitting here for 15 minutes and
nothing.  My wife came back and said that only the desktop is showing.  I
hit the windows key and typed in JAWS but that did nothing.  I am sitting
here with a silent computer.  This has never happened before.  Any ideas?



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

2016-08-27 Thread Mike B.
Hi Wayne,

Do you have a Jaws icon on the desktop?  Did you try pressing enter on the 
Jaws icon if 1 is there?  Are your speakers / volume on?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message - 
From: wayne smith
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 11:43 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install


Hello-

I just got my old computer back with a new hard drive.  I have Windows 7 on
it so I used my JAWS 16 disk to install.  First it brought up a list of
options that my sighted wife had to read to me because there was no speech.
I selected run from media and the install started.  It did the install and
required me to select ok to reboot the system.  It restarted and there were
clicks and the sound of the disk spinning.  Now the computer has gone silent
and there is no speech.  In previous disk loads it asks what kind of
features and then for my product code.  I am sitting here for 15 minutes and
nothing.  My wife came back and said that only the desktop is showing.  I
hit the windows key and typed in JAWS but that did nothing.  I am sitting
here with a silent computer.  This has never happened before.  Any ideas?



Wayne

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[JAWS-Users] JFW 16 Incomplete install

2016-08-27 Thread wayne smith
Hello-

I just got my old computer back with a new hard drive.  I have Windows 7 on
it so I used my JAWS 16 disk to install.  First it brought up a list of
options that my sighted wife had to read to me because there was no speech.
I selected run from media and the install started.  It did the install and
required me to select ok to reboot the system.  It restarted and there were
clicks and the sound of the disk spinning.  Now the computer has gone silent
and there is no speech.  In previous disk loads it asks what kind of
features and then for my product code.  I am sitting here for 15 minutes and
nothing.  My wife came back and said that only the desktop is showing.  I
hit the windows key and typed in JAWS but that did nothing.  I am sitting
here with a silent computer.  This has never happened before.  Any ideas?

 

Wayne

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[JAWS-Users] Windows 10 virtual desktops

2016-08-27 Thread Cristóbal
Hello list,

I’m a heavy user of virtual desktops in Windows 10. One issue I’m
encountering that while doesn’t impact my ability to use the various
desktops, is somewhat annoying.

When I rotate among the desktops (control+windows key+left/right arrow) Jaws
will sometimes land on a window that says “desktop unavailable” and
sometimes not. This is pretty random and I haven’t been able to figure out a
pattern to when it may pop up. Clicking or trying to otherwise interact with
the window doesn’t do much. Sometimes, I can get the window to go away so
that just the applications I have open in those desktops appear, but again,
I haven’t been able to figure out what it is I’m doing to even close it.
Once I alt+tab out of that window, then it’ll go away. It’s only there the
first time I rotate into the desktop.

I am using the latest version of JFW, but this issue has been present  ever
since I can recall using virtual desktops in  Windows 10.

Has anyone else dealt with this particular issue and perhaps have a fix for
it?

 

Thanks,

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Re: [JAWS-Users] back up image

2016-08-27 Thread Jason White
Under Windows 10, you can run "Backup and Restore" (part of the Control Panel
application), then choose the option to create a system image.

I haven't done this, but the backup tool is described as having come from
Windows 7, so I wouldn't expect Microsoft 
Edge to be involved in any way.

Justin Williams  wrote:
> How do you create a back up image on windows 10 without Microsoft
> edge interfearing?  I can't seem to get the image to work.
> 
> Justin
> 
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[JAWS-Users] how can I view such things as music information in explorer?

2016-08-27 Thread Bill

Hi,
I don't quite know just how to ask what I want to ask, but now that I'm 
with windows 10, they seem to do things differently, and I'm wanting to 
know things like the dates of my files, and the bit rate of the files 
so I can use switch to bring them down to size as it were, and I used 
to be able to have information about the file in explorer, but it's not 
there now, so can you tell me if i can get at least some of these 
values back, and when I've done so, how do I set up all my folders so 
that they all are that way?

Many thanks,

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[JAWS-Users] back up image

2016-08-27 Thread Justin Williams
How do you create a back up image on windows 10 without Microsoft
edge interfearing?  I can't seem to get the image to work.

Justin

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