Re: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

[Kevin]

when you get to the login screen or if you don't know where you are, press 
alt+tab until you get user name or password.

yes I get the same, I just do the above!

-Original Message- 
From: michael fridey

Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:54 PM
To: jaws help list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

Hi guys i find jaws some times  at start up jaws will not see the log in
screen.

I start naratter when jaws will not see the edit box.

Is anybody else finding that.

cheers Michael.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[The Iowa Gal]

So if you're not having the issue, the rest of us are just losing our minds, 
huh? Here's another vote for it being an I.E. problem.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

This is Not a Internet Explorer issue. I am running latest Jaws 18, the 
Creators update, office 365, current updates to all. I am having no issues.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

I always used to have these sorts of issues with iE...any version, of either 
JAWS or IE. I finally pretty much switched 100% to firefox and now everything 
works like a charm.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win
7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not duplicatable, 
but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to be a bug 
somewhere in the program.

When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process 
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish i.e. 
not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go and close 
IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.

If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing


> Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also 
> happens to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with 
> Windows 7 and a 64 bit system.
> Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have 
> assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all 
> guesswork and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to 
> restart the system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from 
> an open web site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this 
> annoyance.  Mitch
>
> “The problem with quotes on the Internet
>is that people instantly believe they’re real.”
>
>-(Abraham Lincoln)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing
>
> Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes 
> silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 .
> Office
> 365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been 
> suggested, appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing 
> happens. If I press the power  button lightly, just before the 
> computer turns off, Jaws starts to talk. But I can't, at that point, stop the 
> computer from turning off.
> It
> just happened to  me again. Very frustrating! Is this happening to 
> anyone else? What do you do when it happens?
>
> Miriam
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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[JAWS-Users] sign in with jaws.

[michael fridey]

Hi guys i find jaws some times  at start up jaws will not see the log in 
screen.


I start naratter when jaws will not see the edit box.

Is anybody else finding that.

cheers Michael.

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[JAWS-Users] test of leave

[George Martinez]

This is a test if my leave email worked.


"Whatever you are, be a good one."  ~ Abraham Lincoln

George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 1-206-666-2589
Email george.martinez...@gmcpa.net

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[JAWS-Users] Enable content

[Dale Alton]

Hi all,

I thought I remembered a keystroke to be able to see the notices like enable
editing when a new web page came up.  Is there such a thing and if so what
is the keystroke?

Thank you,

 

Denver Dale

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] How does one hover in JAWS?

[Fernando Gregoire]

If you're in a web-based e-mail service, it is the same as in a web page. Place 
the JAWS Virtual Cursor into the address line and press CTRL+INSERT+ENTER to 
simulate overring on that line. JAWS will announce you the line in which there 
were changes, if any. To go to that line, press the letter j and, in the Jump 
To Line dialog, enter that number.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Blackwell, Clifford
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 12:06 PM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How does one hover in JAWS?

I'm looking at some instructions and it says to "hover" over an email address 
in order to get a pop up message to appear with various options to select.  
With JAWS 16 or newer how does one accomplish this?  I'm using a Windows 7 
computer.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Jim Flusche]

This is Not a Internet Explorer issue. I am running latest Jaws 18, the 
Creators update, office 365, current updates to all. I am having no issues.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

I always used to have these sorts of issues with iE...any version, of either 
JAWS or IE. I finally pretty much switched 100% to firefox and now everything 
works like a charm.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win
7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not duplicatable, 
but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to be a bug 
somewhere in the program.

When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process 
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish i.e. 
not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go and close 
IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.

If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing


> Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also 
> happens to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with 
> Windows 7 and a 64 bit system.
> Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have 
> assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all 
> guesswork and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to 
> restart the system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from 
> an open web site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this 
> annoyance.  Mitch
>
> “The problem with quotes on the Internet
>is that people instantly believe they’re real.”
>
>-(Abraham Lincoln)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing
>
> Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes 
> silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 .
> Office
> 365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been 
> suggested, appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing 
> happens. If I press the power  button lightly, just before the 
> computer turns off, Jaws starts to talk. But I can't, at that point, stop the 
> computer from turning off.
> It
> just happened to  me again. Very frustrating! Is this happening to 
> anyone else? What do you do when it happens?
>
> Miriam
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Maria Campbell]

Eric D'amery has been monitoring in the past.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 7/18/2017 4:46 PM, Rick Ely wrote:

Let me add:
Running Windows 10 64 bit with all updates, JAWS 18 most recent update,
Outlook 16  365, the vanishing JAWS happens most often when I leave spell
check running in a message. Often ,if I use Windows Key + D to return to the
desktop and wait patiently voice will return. Interestingly enough while
writing this note with ZoomText Fusion newest version with JAWS as the
underlying screen reader, the same thing just happened though the spell
checker was not in use, and the same solution worked.  Now when I arrow about
or type a word, there is an inconsistent lag between action and echoed speech.

Does anyone know if VFO or Freedom monitors this list for issues encountered
specific to JAWS and common among numbers of users?
Rick

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win
7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not duplicatable,
but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to be a bug
somewhere in the program.

When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish i.e.
not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go and
close IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.

If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing



Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also happens
to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with Windows 7 and
a 64 bit system.
Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have
assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all guesswork
and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to restart the
system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from an open web
site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this annoyance.  Mitch

"The problem with quotes on the Internet
is that people instantly believe they're real."

-(Abraham Lincoln)

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes
silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 .
Office
365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been suggested,
appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing happens. If I press
the power  button lightly, just before the computer turns off, Jaws starts
to talk. But I can't, at that point, stop the computer from turning off.
It
just happened to  me again. Very frustrating! Is this happening to anyone
else? What do you do when it happens?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Rick Ely]

Let me add:
Running Windows 10 64 bit with all updates, JAWS 18 most recent update, 
Outlook 16  365, the vanishing JAWS happens most often when I leave spell 
check running in a message. Often ,if I use Windows Key + D to return to the 
desktop and wait patiently voice will return. Interestingly enough while 
writing this note with ZoomText Fusion newest version with JAWS as the 
underlying screen reader, the same thing just happened though the spell 
checker was not in use, and the same solution worked.  Now when I arrow about 
or type a word, there is an inconsistent lag between action and echoed speech.

Does anyone know if VFO or Freedom monitors this list for issues encountered 
specific to JAWS and common among numbers of users?
Rick

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win
7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not duplicatable, 
but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to be a bug 
somewhere in the program.

When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process 
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish i.e. 
not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go and 
close IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.

If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing


> Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also happens
> to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with Windows 7 and
> a 64 bit system.
> Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have
> assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all guesswork
> and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to restart the
> system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from an open web
> site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this annoyance.  Mitch
>
> "The problem with quotes on the Internet
>is that people instantly believe they're real."
>
>-(Abraham Lincoln)
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing
>
> Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes
> silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 .
> Office
> 365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been suggested,
> appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing happens. If I press
> the power  button lightly, just before the computer turns off, Jaws starts
> to talk. But I can't, at that point, stop the computer from turning off.
> It
> just happened to  me again. Very frustrating! Is this happening to anyone
> else? What do you do when it happens?
>
> Miriam
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[JM Casey]

I always used to have these sorts of issues with iE...any version, of either 
JAWS or IE. I finally pretty much switched 100% to firefox and now everything 
works like a charm.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win
7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not duplicatable, 
but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to be a bug 
somewhere in the program.

When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process 
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish i.e. 
not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go and close 
IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.

If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing


> Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also happens 
> to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with Windows 7 and 
> a 64 bit system.
> Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have 
> assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all guesswork 
> and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to restart the 
> system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from an open web 
> site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this annoyance.  Mitch
>
> “The problem with quotes on the Internet
>is that people instantly believe they’re real.”
>
>-(Abraham Lincoln)
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing
>
> Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes
> silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 . 
> Office
> 365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been suggested,
> appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing happens. If I press
> the power  button lightly, just before the computer turns off, Jaws starts
> to talk. But I can't, at that point, stop the computer from turning off. 
> It
> just happened to  me again. Very frustrating! Is this happening to anyone
> else? What do you do when it happens?
>
> Miriam
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Dave ...]

Steve,

I agree. Same problem as you. I usually try to shut down JAWS and restart. I 
haven't tried to shut down IE, since I'm usually in the middle of a search 
or other activity.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 13:07
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing


Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win
7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not
duplicatable, but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to
be a bug somewhere in the program.

When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish
i.e. not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go
and close IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.

If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing


> Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also happens
> to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with Windows 7 and
> a 64 bit system.
> Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have
> assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all guesswork
> and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to restart the
> system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from an open web
> site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this annoyance.  Mitch
>
> “The problem with quotes on the Internet
>is that people instantly believe they’re real.”
>
>-(Abraham Lincoln)
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Miriam Vieni
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing
>
> Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes
> silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 .
> Office
> 365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been suggested,
> appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing happens. If I press
> the power  button lightly, just before the computer turns off, Jaws starts
> to talk. But I can't, at that point, stop the computer from turning off.
> It
> just happened to  me again. Very frustrating! Is this happening to anyone
> else? What do you do when it happens?
>
> Miriam
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Steve]

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win 
7 Ultimate system.


It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not 
duplicatable, but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to 
be a bug somewhere in the program.


When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process 
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish 
i.e. not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go 
and close IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.


If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing


Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also happens 
to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with Windows 7 and 
a 64 bit system.
Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have 
assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all guesswork 
and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to restart the 
system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from an open web 
site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this annoyance.  Mitch


“The problem with quotes on the Internet
   is that people instantly believe they’re real.”

   -(Abraham Lincoln)

-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes
silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 . 
Office

365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been suggested,
appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing happens. If I press
the power  button lightly, just before the computer turns off, Jaws starts
to talk. But I can't, at that point, stop the computer from turning off. 
It

just happened to  me again. Very frustrating! Is this happening to anyone
else? What do you do when it happens?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Pinning and unpinning items from the taskbar in W-10.

[Jim Flusche]

Hi Rick, thank you for your positive and kind feedback. Just doing what I can 
do to help others. Yes, I personally love W-10. That's why only after using 
W-10 for about three weeks and seeing how well it worked with Jaws, I started 
the W-10 and Jaws group. Almost two years later, I still love W-10! There are 
many members of this list and members on my own group that know way more about 
using computers them me, but I do my best to help them to the best of my 
knowledge. I also want to thank David F, and all of his moderators on this 
list, who helped teach this pinhead how to use a computer with Jaws! So in a 
way, I am giving back to the blind community as well as helping others because 
of the kindness of many people who have helped me over the years! May God bless 
all of us for helping one another learn the computer using Jaws! Thanks. Smiles.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rick Ely
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 8:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Pinning and unpinning items from the taskbar in W-10.

Jim,
What a great step by step. I have a folder with your lessons. It is so good to 
see someone with a clear understanding of Windows. When, in the long ago and 
far away, and teaching WindowEyes I told my students that so much of good use 
of a screen reader relied on knowing what was possible in the operating system 
and having a good group of shortcut keys in your OS between your ears. I was a 
GW guy back in the VocalEyes days and then a WE user and teacher. When WE went 
away, I dreaded the switch. All that dread has mostly vanished. Now if I can 
retrain my head to press the specific JAWS function keys. I will be in good 
shape. Motor memory is a wonderful thing until the task has its key combo 
altered.

Thanks from lots of us,
Rick

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Pinning and unpinning items from the taskbar in W-10.

Pinning and unpinning items from the taskbar in W-10.
OK, first of all, What Items are pinned to my Taskbar?
Second of all, What are the order of the pinned items on my Taskbar?
Third of all, Why does the pinned order of items on the Taskbar matter?
Fourth of all, How do I unpin items from the Taskbar?
Fifth of all, How do I pin items to the Taskbar?
**What Items are pinned to my Taskbar?
After pressing Windows key+T, and pressing the Right arrow key, I will hear the 
following Items.
Task bar Internet Explorer Button
Word 2016 Button
Notepad - 1 running window button menu
Outlook 2016 Button
Control Panel Button
Windows Defender Security Center Button
iTunes Button
JAWS 18 Button
**What are the order of the pinned items on my Taskbar?
1. Internet Explorer
2. Word 2016
3. Notepad
4. Outlook 2016
5. Control Panel
6. Windows Defender Security Center
7. iTunes
8. JAWS 18
**Why does the pinned order of items on the Taskbar matter?
Because, depending on the order of the pinned items to the Taskbar, this will 
determine the shortcut key that will start that program on your computer.
*For example:
on my computer pressing the windows key followed by a number on the numbers 
row, will start the following program or open the item pinned to the Taskbar.
Pressing Windows key+1, will open Internet Explorer.
Pressing Windows key+2, will open Word 2016.
Pressing Windows key+3, will open an untitled Notepad file.
Pressing Windows key+4, will open Outlook 2016.
Pressing Windows key+5, will open the control panel.
Pressing Windows key+6, will open Windows Defender Security Center.
Pressing Windows key+7, will open iTunes.
Pressing Windows key+8, will always start Jaws 18.
*Tip, if you have more than one of these windows open.
Pressing their windows key+number, will take you to that program.
*For example:
If you are in the Internet Explorer window, and you wish to go back to your 
open notepad file, just press Windows key+3, on my computer.
If you wish to start a new notepad file, Press Windows+shift+3, this will open 
a blank notepad file.
So as you can see this is a quick and fast way, to start your favorites 
programs on your W-10 computer including Jaws.
**How do I unpin items from the Taskbar?
As you are busy customizing your new W-10 computer, you should clear the pinned 
items off your Taskbar.
This way you can start from scratch, pinning your pinned items to the Taskbar 
in your own order.
*Press Windows key+T, you land on the first item pinned to your Taskbar.
Press the Applications key, up arrow to, unpin from Taskbar, press Enter.
Press Windows key+m or D, go to your desktop.
Press Windows key+T, returns you to the Taskbar, repeat the above directions 
until the Taskbar is empty.
Keep repeating these steps, until all the current items are unpinned from your 
Taskbar.
**How do I pin items to the 

[JAWS-Users] How does one hover in JAWS?

[Blackwell, Clifford]

I'm looking at some instructions and it says to "hover" over an email address 
in order to get a pop up message to appear with various options to select.  
With JAWS 16 or newer how does one accomplish this?  I'm using a Windows 7 
computer.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Russ Kiehne]

I have the following problem with jaws.  When using the jaws say all command 
(insert+down arrow) when reading a webpage or html document, my tripletalk 
stopps speaking after a few seconds.  Here's what Mike from Access Solutions 
said about it.


hi russ, yesterday i decided to test the synth in
jaws 17.0219x?  and there was no problem with the
say all command and no problem with holding the
parameters such as pitch  etc.  but in jaws 18
some how freedom broke it.  so that kind of
proves what i have said that the problem is
freedoms side.  was going to see about rewriting
the speech drivers but when i asked for the
software development kid it was from 2012 and
these drivers are younger than that.  from what i
know freedom is awhere of the problem and is
looking into it.  so whose knows there is suppose
to be a update this month so maybe they will have
it fixed.  lets hope so anyway.  c u m

-Original Message- 
From: Vicky Vaughan

Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 8:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Hi Miriam, Yes, I have the same problem with Jaws going silent for no known
reason. I am using Jaws 16 on a 64 byt Win7 computer. It doesn't seem to
make any difference as to how long it has been since the last reboot or full
shut-down.

I wish I had something helpful to offer, but, like you, shutting down has
been the only way I've been able to get Jaws back.

It's nice to know that I'm not alone in this!

Sincerely, Vicky



-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 9:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes
silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 . Office
365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been suggested,
appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing happens. If I press
the power  button lightly, just before the computer turns off, Jaws starts
to talk. But I can't, at that point, stop the computer from turning off. It
just happened to  me again. Very frustrating! Is this happening to anyone
else? What do you do when it happens?

Miriam


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