Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 And Different Sound Cards

[HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

O.k. thanks.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Hareth
Sent: 28 February 2018 20:07
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 And Different Sound Cards

If you have jaws output going through the system default sound card so yes. 
hints keyboard volume keys work with the system default sound cards only.

if not so no, you need to change its volume using eater jaws voice settings, or 
best the sound card own volume settings.
take care.

On 2/28/18, HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) 
 wrote:
> Hi friends,
>
> I Have my laptop set up so that the main system sounds go through the
> docking station sound card and JAWS goes through the laptop internal
> speakers and sound card.
> My question is that if I use the volume keys on my keyboard, they
> change the master sound volume, is there a way to change the JAWS
> volume as well with keyboard commands that goes through  the second sound 
> card?
>
> Many thanks in anticipation,
>
>
>
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[JAWS-Users] Folder List View and Folder Details View and Outlook Question

[tedlarson1950]

Dear List:

I have windows ten and have started to use Jaws.  First, within folders, how
do I change the view to either list view or detail view?

Second, sometimes, not always, when composing a message in Outlook 2016, if
I want to review the message, the main arrow keys do not speak what I just
wrote.  Thanks for any thoughts on these questions.  Regards:  Ted Larson

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem installing JAWS 18 on a Windows 7 machine.

[Brian Zolo]

Sounds great, Dave!  BZ!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 7:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem installing JAWS 18 on a Windows 7 machine.

Hi Brian!
I will check out that program. My WIFI seems a little slow, and I have done
all of the trouble shooting and so on!
Have a great one, Brian.
Great to see you on here. I will be in touch!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Brian Zolo
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 7:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem installing JAWS 18 on a Windows 7 machine.

Hi, Adrian, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio.  I've been quite successful
with update issue resolution as well as solving other internet issues by
downloading a program called complete internet repair and it's quite
accessible with jaws.  It's certainly worth checking out.  Let me know if I
can be of further assistance.  I'm also using windows 7 right now.  I'll
eventually be upgrading to windows ten but will probably end up getting a
new laptop as my experience at work with windows ten has shown me that
there's far less problems with the caviat that I'm having to use a
proprietary version of windows ten developed for the Department of Defense.
I've just found that there isn't enough attention paid to sound and video
drivers when the department of defense just upgrades machines from windows 7
to windows ten.  That's my $0.02 worth, grin!  My windows 7 lapotp here is
an HP Zbook z17 which is a business laptop but I'm far more able to do
driver updates successfully with Dell as once you have your dell service tag
you can then just go to support.dell.com and put in your service tag and the
operating system you're using and get any drivers you need.  The HP support
application s somewhat useable but not nearly as user friendly as Dell.
Take care and let me know if I can assist further.  bZ!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 2:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem installing JAWS 18 on a Windows 7 machine.

The first time Windows update failed to install, I had to hire someone who
knew what he was doing to manually install the update. I'd first contacted
MS Accessibility. After an hour, they gave up and escalated. However, I
didn't get any follow-up until this past Sunday, more than a month later. By
then, the initial failure had been resolved. However, it's just happened
again. I haven't decided what to do. In the past, MS Accessibility was going
to solve another problem by reinstalling windows, which seemed to me much to
dramatic. In that case, too, I turned instead to an expert who made the fix
without trauma to my system, although some to my bank account. 

I wish I had more confidence in MS Accessibility. For certain relatively
minor things, I'm guessing they're fine, but for anything complex, you
really need to monitor what they're up to. In addition, letting a month
elapse before acting on an escalated matter, especially when security is
involved, was unconscionable. 

The short answer is that I have no idea how to solve this recurring Windows
update failure by myself. If someone on this list does, we'd owe them a free
subscription!!

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Mote
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 1:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem installing JAWS 18 on a Windows 7 machine.

Me too!  How have you resolved this issue?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 1:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem installing JAWS 18 on a Windows 7 machine.

I don't know if it's related, but I'm now routinely having trouble
installing Windows updates on my Win7 machine.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Mote
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 1:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem installing JAWS 18 on a Windows 7 machine.

I did call them, and we have no resolution just yet.  They are saying the
issue is due to Windows updates not being installed.  I'm investigating this
now, but wanted to reach out to the list to see if anyone had other ideas.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 12:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem installing JAWS 18 on a Windows 7 machine.

Mike, I take it you mean you're trying to 

[JAWS-Users] Copying iPhone photos to PC

[Cher Bosch]

I know that some of you are using file explorer to do this- can someone tell
me the path within the phone to locate the photos? It seems like no one has
found a way to use any of the Win10 apps to accomplish this. HELP please and
many, many thanks!

 

Cher

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[JAWS-Users] I need help in getting my emails sorted properly using Outlook 2010

[George Marshall]

Hi all:

 

I am using jaws 2018, Windows 7, i.e. 11 and Outlook 2010. I really need
help in getting my emails sorted properly, if you can help I would
appreciate a reply and we will set up atandum session.

 

Please help,

 

George R. Marshall
geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] searching for coloured text in Microsoft Word

[Roger Newell]

If the person making the changes used track changes, the amendments
would appear in red, and JAWS would automatically read them.

Just a thought for next time.

On 2/28/18, Fernando Gregoire  wrote:
> Hi Geoff,
>
> In versions prior to 2010 this was done by pressing CTRL+F.
> In Word 2010 and latter CTRL+F opens the Navigation Pane which only offer a
> basic searching capability, so you have to use the Advanced Search item
> located on the Edit group of the Home tab in the ribbon to get to the old
> dialog. If you need this frequently, you may find useful to add this to the
> Quick Access Toolbar or create keyboard shortcuts, either an additional one
> for Advanced Search or by editing CTRL+F to activate Advanced Search instead
> of the Navigation Pane.
>
> Hope it helps!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Geoff Eden
> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:26 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] searching for coloured text in Microsoft Word
>
> I cannot recall how to perform special searches in Word, such as for colour,
> italics, etc.
>
> I have just received a couple of documents with proposed amendments in red,
> yellow, etc.  How can I have jaws read this text exclusively?
>
> I would be most grateful for any help.
>
> Geoff
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 And Different Sound Cards

[Hareth]

If you have jaws output going through the system default sound card so
yes. hints keyboard volume keys work with the system default sound
cards only.

if not so no, you need to change its volume using eater jaws voice
settings, or best the sound card own volume settings.
take care.

On 2/28/18, HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
 wrote:
> Hi friends,
>
> I Have my laptop set up so that the main system sounds go through the
> docking station sound card and JAWS goes through the laptop internal
> speakers and sound card.
> My question is that if I use the volume keys on my keyboard, they change the
> master sound volume, is there a way to change the JAWS volume as well with
> keyboard commands that goes through  the second sound card?
>
> Many thanks in anticipation,
>
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I think the web addresses are the same.  Neither opens directly for me from
the email, but both work when copied and pasted into the browser, Chrome, in
my case.  I'd copied the address from the website and pasted it into my
message.  It did not stay nicely on one line, as Adrian's did.  Perhaps the
improvement of Outlook 2016 over my 2010?  LOL.  But if looked at letter by
letter, so to speak, they're both the same.
But choose the neater version!  Smile.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 1:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

Rebecca, I believe the address has changed to
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarDe
tail/F0117
You can choose an MP3 recording or go through an HTML version.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 10:58 AM
To: jaws user's list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

This may be of help to some.

I just found it so haven't listened yet.

Rebecca

Introduction to Office 2016 with JAWS and MAGic

Archived 11/11/2015

 

This overview of Office 2016 with JAWS and MAGic covers the important
aspects of Office 2016. Topics include navigation for the ribbons and task
panes;

differences from earlier versions of Word, Excel, Outlook, and PowerPoint.

Product(s): JAWS, MAGic 

Experience Level: Beginner 

Length: 1.0 hours

https://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarD
etail/F0117

 

"The best criticism of the bad is the practice of the better" 

From:  Center for Action and Contemplation

 

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 And Different Sound Cards

[HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Hi friends,

I Have my laptop set up so that the main system sounds go through the docking 
station sound card and JAWS goes through the laptop internal speakers and sound 
card.
My question is that if I use the volume keys on my keyboard, they change the 
master sound volume, is there a way to change the JAWS volume as well with 
keyboard commands that goes through  the second sound card?

Many thanks in anticipation,





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws And Blindtunes Scripts

[Kimsan]

Yes, when I wrote him about that many moons ago, he stated it was hard to
keep up with the changes.


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 10:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws And Blindtunes Scripts

Last time I looked, they were no longer available. I had the impression John
Martin gave up trying to keep up with Apple's changes. If they're hard to
find now, that would be the reason.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Geoff Connor
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 12:23 PM
To: Jfw Mailing List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws And Blindtunes Scripts

Good morning all.

Does anyone know where I can get my hands on the Blindtunes scripts for
Jaws?

 

Geoff

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

[Adrian Spratt]

Rebecca, I believe the address has changed to
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarDetail/F0117
You can choose an MP3 recording or go through an HTML version.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 10:58 AM
To: jaws user's list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

This may be of help to some.

I just found it so haven't listened yet.

Rebecca

Introduction to Office 2016 with JAWS and MAGic

Archived 11/11/2015

 

This overview of Office 2016 with JAWS and MAGic covers the important aspects 
of Office 2016. Topics include navigation for the ribbons and task panes;

differences from earlier versions of Word, Excel, Outlook, and PowerPoint.

Product(s): JAWS, MAGic 

Experience Level: Beginner 

Length: 1.0 hours

https://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarD
etail/F0117

 

"The best criticism of the bad is the practice of the better" 

From:  Center for Action and Contemplation

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws And Blindtunes Scripts

[Adrian Spratt]

Last time I looked, they were no longer available. I had the impression John 
Martin gave up trying to keep up with Apple's changes. If they're hard to find 
now, that would be the reason.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Geoff Connor
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 12:23 PM
To: Jfw Mailing List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws And Blindtunes Scripts

Good morning all.

Does anyone know where I can get my hands on the Blindtunes scripts for Jaws?

 

Geoff

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws And Blindtunes Scripts

[Justin Williams]

Okay, so, there are scripts for itunes? I'd like them too.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 12:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws And Blindtunes Scripts

Jaws scripts for Itunes...


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws And Blindtunes Scripts

What is blindtunes?
 Justin

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Geoff Connor
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 12:23 PM
To: Jfw Mailing List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws And Blindtunes Scripts

Good morning all.

Does anyone know where I can get my hands on the Blindtunes scripts for
Jaws?

 

Geoff

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws And Blindtunes Scripts

[Kimsan]

Jaws scripts for Itunes...


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 9:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws And Blindtunes Scripts

What is blindtunes?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Geoff Connor
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 12:23 PM
To: Jfw Mailing List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws And Blindtunes Scripts

Good morning all.

Does anyone know where I can get my hands on the Blindtunes scripts for
Jaws?

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws And Blindtunes Scripts

[Justin Williams]

What is blindtunes?
 Justin

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Behalf Of Geoff Connor
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 12:23 PM
To: Jfw Mailing List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws And Blindtunes Scripts

Good morning all.

Does anyone know where I can get my hands on the Blindtunes scripts for
Jaws?

 

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[JAWS-Users] Jaws And Blindtunes Scripts

[Geoff Connor]

Good morning all.

Does anyone know where I can get my hands on the Blindtunes scripts for
Jaws?

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Office 2010 vs. 2016 vs. 365

[JM Casey]

Ah yes. I forgot about the differences with the spell-check. It's minor but
threw me off at first.

Now it doesn't really matter I suppose, particularly with regards to this
list and its topics, but the "we" (not just in Office, but Windows as well)
always bugs me. Who the hell's "we" then? Little Microsoft Dwarves? What is
this, maelzel's chess board? Get outta here. :P



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Behalf Of Roger Newell
Sent: February 28, 2018 12:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Office 2010 vs. 2016 vs. 365

The reason for the spell-check not working as it used to is that, rather
than spell-check appearing as a dialog box on top of the regular Word
window, it now appears in a pane on the right-hand side of the screen, just
like for some other Word features.

The reason that Word now says "we" is to make the language (a) more readable
for people with lower IQs and those who are less technologically literate,
and (b) to make Word seem more "friendly", a trend that has taken hold with
technology recently. I personally like it as it makes Word seem tailored
more for individual users.

On 2/28/18, Adrian Spratt  wrote:
> Hi, Rebecca. I've been using Office 2016 for only two weeks. So far, I 
> find no advantages over 2010. I have been meaning to try out certain
features.
> For example, I believe 2016 handles PDF files, but I haven't looked 
> into it so far. After all, PDF files have become increasingly 
> accessible, especially with JAWS 2018. Otherwise, 2016 doesn't act as
smoothly for me as 2010 did.
>
>
> for example, often when I press the down arrow key, all I hear is the 
> first letter of that next line rather than the whole line. All I need 
> do is go back up and back down again, but it's an extra step and a
distraction.
>
> In spell-check, "word in context" is no longer available. It's easy 
> enough to escape out of spell-check and do a "say line" command, but I 
> do miss that option.
>
> In Outlook 2016, you need to press control-y to go to the folders list.
> Shift-tab no longer works. Of course, this is just a question of 
> forming a new habit, and you may already use control-y as your default.
>
> Outlook 2016 takes a long time to open. I do have a lot of folders and 
> messages, but it seems to take much longer than it did in 2010.
>
> There's a  trick to setting up Word 2016 so that you can open files 
> from your chosen directory. I would gladly check my notes to explain 
> if the time came.
>
> One last curiosity. When I do a search-and-replace in Word 2016, I'm told:
> "All done. We made X replacements." Who is "we"? Microsoft? Of course, 
> it isn't literally MS looking over my shoulder, just a way they've 
> chosen to confirm an operation, but it's a little creepy.
>
> So far the only reason I can see for upgrading to 2016 is to keep up 
> with technological changes. I had hoped it would overcome certain 
> unrelated problems I've been having, such as with Windows updates, but 
> those problems turn out to be exactly what I said: unrelated. Well, if 
> you do a lot of work on documents with other people, it looks like 2016
has some useful features.
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 5:08 PM
> To: jaws user's list 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Office 2010 vs. 2016 vs. 365
>
> I'm running Windows 10, Fall Creator update, 1709.  But I'm still 
> using Office 2010.  I hesitate to update since on the list at least, 
> and probably naturally enough, I see more problems than benefits.  
> I've been reading a bit about 2016 and 365 from books on each 
> downloaded from Bookshare. Does anyone have any thoughts about either?  
> It seems these days that screen readers are always playing catch-up as 
> Microsoft constantly introduces changes. Since my computer is behaving 
> and I don't need a new one, the upgrade to a later version of Office would
be a choice and not a necessity.
>
> Just wondering about others' experiences.
>
> Thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> Rebecca
>
> "The best criticism of the bad is the practice of the better"
>
> From:  Center for Action and Contemplation
>
>
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS Webinar, Office 2016

[Rebecca Lineberger]

This may be of help to some.

I just found it so haven't listened yet.

Rebecca

Introduction to Office 2016 with JAWS and MAGic

Archived 11/11/2015

 

This overview of Office 2016 with JAWS and MAGic covers the important
aspects of Office 2016. Topics include navigation for the ribbons and task
panes;

differences from earlier versions of Word, Excel, Outlook, and PowerPoint.

Product(s): JAWS, MAGic 

Experience Level: Beginner 

Length: 1.0 hours

https://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarD
etail/F0117

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to select a sentence in Word 2016 while using JAWS

[Adrian Spratt]

This works, but it involves more moving around. With the F8 method, you simply 
place focus inside the sentence. Your method works very nicely for longer 
blocks of text.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Roger Newell
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 12:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to select a sentence in Word 2016 while using JAWS

Everyone seems to have their own methods for selecting sentences. The way I do 
it is to insert a temporary PlaceMarker at the beginning of the selection with 
CTRL+WINDOWS+K, then I go to the end of the selection and press 
INSERT+SPACEBAR, M.

On 2/28/18, Adrian Spratt  wrote:
> Hi. Using Word 2010, I became dependent on the F8 key to select a sentence.
> It doesn't work in 2016. At Google, I find a control-mouse click 
> instruction, but using the JAWS simulated mouse, it doesn't work. Has 
> anyone found an alternative keyboard command buried in Word 2016 for 
> this operation?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Office 2010 vs. 2016 vs. 365

[Roger Newell]

The reason for the spell-check not working as it used to is that,
rather than spell-check appearing as a dialog box on top of the
regular Word window, it now appears in a pane on the right-hand side
of the screen, just like for some other Word features.

The reason that Word now says "we" is to make the language (a) more
readable for people with lower IQs and those who are less
technologically literate, and (b) to make Word seem more "friendly", a
trend that has taken hold with technology recently. I personally like
it as it makes Word seem tailored more for individual users.

On 2/28/18, Adrian Spratt  wrote:
> Hi, Rebecca. I've been using Office 2016 for only two weeks. So far, I find
> no advantages over 2010. I have been meaning to try out certain features.
> For example, I believe 2016 handles PDF files, but I haven't looked into it
> so far. After all, PDF files have become increasingly accessible, especially
> with JAWS 2018. Otherwise, 2016 doesn't act as smoothly for me as 2010 did.
>
>
> for example, often when I press the down arrow key, all I hear is the first
> letter of that next line rather than the whole line. All I need do is go
> back up and back down again, but it's an extra step and a distraction.
>
> In spell-check, "word in context" is no longer available. It's easy enough
> to escape out of spell-check and do a "say line" command, but I do miss that
> option.
>
> In Outlook 2016, you need to press control-y to go to the folders list.
> Shift-tab no longer works. Of course, this is just a question of forming a
> new habit, and you may already use control-y as your default.
>
> Outlook 2016 takes a long time to open. I do have a lot of folders and
> messages, but it seems to take much longer than it did in 2010.
>
> There's a  trick to setting up Word 2016 so that you can open files from
> your chosen directory. I would gladly check my notes to explain if the time
> came.
>
> One last curiosity. When I do a search-and-replace in Word 2016, I'm told:
> "All done. We made X replacements." Who is "we"? Microsoft? Of course, it
> isn't literally MS looking over my shoulder, just a way they've chosen to
> confirm an operation, but it's a little creepy.
>
> So far the only reason I can see for upgrading to 2016 is to keep up with
> technological changes. I had hoped it would overcome certain unrelated
> problems I've been having, such as with Windows updates, but those problems
> turn out to be exactly what I said: unrelated. Well, if you do a lot of work
> on documents with other people, it looks like 2016 has some useful features.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger
> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 5:08 PM
> To: jaws user's list 
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Office 2010 vs. 2016 vs. 365
>
> I'm running Windows 10, Fall Creator update, 1709.  But I'm still using
> Office 2010.  I hesitate to update since on the list at least, and probably
> naturally enough, I see more problems than benefits.  I've been reading a
> bit about 2016 and 365 from books on each downloaded from Bookshare. Does
> anyone have any thoughts about either?  It seems these days that screen
> readers are always playing catch-up as Microsoft constantly introduces
> changes. Since my computer is behaving and I don't need a new one, the
> upgrade to a later version of Office would be a choice and not a necessity.
>
> Just wondering about others' experiences.
>
> Thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> Rebecca
>
> "The best criticism of the bad is the practice of the better"
>
> From:  Center for Action and Contemplation
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to select a sentence in Word 2016 while using JAWS

[Roger Newell]

Everyone seems to have their own methods for selecting sentences. The
way I do it is to insert a temporary PlaceMarker at the beginning of
the selection with CTRL+WINDOWS+K, then I go to the end of the
selection and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, M.

On 2/28/18, Adrian Spratt  wrote:
> Hi. Using Word 2010, I became dependent on the F8 key to select a sentence.
> It doesn't work in 2016. At Google, I find a control-mouse click
> instruction, but using the JAWS simulated mouse, it doesn't work. Has anyone
> found an alternative keyboard command buried in Word 2016 for this
> operation?
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Office 2010 vs. 2016 vs. 365

[Adrian Spratt]

Fernando, thanks also from me for your thoughts here. Helpful information.

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Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 2:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Office 2010 vs. 2016 vs. 365

Hi Reveca,

I use Office 2016 on all of my computers.
Ultimately Microsoft is making a lot of accessibility improvements and even 
step-by-step tutorials on how to accomplish specific tasks by using a screen 
reader that are based in Office 2016 programs running together with JAWS or the 
Windows 10 Narrator.
Besides accessibility, it only makes sense to upgrade to Office 2016 if you 
often work with files stored in cloud services like OneDrive and/or need to 
edit or copy data from PDF files to Word documents and, although it is less 
common from witting Word, if you use Word to read books, because Office 2013 
introduced the capability to resume reading from where you left.
I personally found upgrading useful, because the support for saving files to 
OneDrive from witting Office programs and have recently used documents 
synchronized is drastically enhanced over the limited and unstable support 
available for this in Office 2010.
If you use Outlook as your e-mail client, it is easier to attach recently used 
files of any type without having to search in the folder structure, since 
Outlook 2016 by defaults shows a list of the last files used, which in Windows 
10 is consistent with the Quick Access folder in File Explorer.

Of course there are more specific things you may find useful or not depending 
on programs you use and the purposes you use these for, but I think the ones I 
mentioned are the most notable additions regarding daily use for a home user.

Not that we're speaking about Office 2016, how well does the new Word feature 
that provides writing suggestions besides traditional spelling and grammar that 
was introduced some time ago in Office 365 works? It is not available for 
Spanish yet and I'm not a native English speaker, so I can't accurately judge 
suggestions quality myself.

Hope it helps!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 7:08 PM
To: jaws user's list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Office 2010 vs. 2016 vs. 365

I'm running Windows 10, Fall Creator update, 1709.  But I'm still using Office 
2010.  I hesitate to update since on the list at least, and probably naturally 
enough, I see more problems than benefits.  I've been reading a bit about 2016 
and 365 from books on each downloaded from Bookshare. Does anyone have any 
thoughts about either?  It seems these days that screen readers are always 
playing catch-up as Microsoft constantly introduces changes. Since my computer 
is behaving and I don't need a new one, the upgrade to a later version of 
Office would be a choice and not a necessity.

Just wondering about others' experiences.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

Rebecca

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[JAWS-Users] Office Versions

[Rebecca Lineberger]

Thank you to all those who responded with their thoughts and experiences. In
an ideal world, there would be a way to use a new program for long enough to
really learn and assess it, and then be able to revert back to the older
version if the new one did not suit. 

Perhaps if there are screen reader issues, they could be reported to FS and
they could be addressed.  Sometimes small annoyances can be a deal-breaker
for using or not using a program.  I too use the f8 for quick selection.  In
Word 2010, JAWS does a great job.

In 2010 too, the spell-checker with f7 works really well, speaking
everything. Insert-f7 repeats the information; insert-c reads the context
and alt-c corrects the spelling (when I remember to press it instead of
enter).  LOL.  To me, enter seems more intuitive to confirm a choice, and
alt-i makes more logical sense to ignore.  Smile.  

With Window-Eyes, I used alt-f7, which I sometimes do with JAWS as well.

I do use Window-Eyes still in Word for playing Sudoku.  The table mode works
really well, giving only column and row numbers without trying to read
headings. This lets me know instantly where I am when trying to figure out
what number would go where. I don't know if Window-Eyes works with Word
2016, and I've not found a way to make tables work well for me with JAWS for
Sudoku.  

There are always gains and losses when updating technology, for us, doubly
so, since the screen has to be mediated, and screen readers do the best they
can.

Perhaps all the tech wizards everywhere could try turning off their monitors
and do their testing with a screen reader.?  Smile.

Thanks again for all the thoughts.

Rebecca

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