Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

2015-04-27 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
Well, making laws is one thing, enforcing them is another.It seems that
MS accessibility pretty much stops at Office.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 6:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

Under Section 508 itself, it would seem that Microsoft could be required
to either make SharePoint accessible, or pay the cost of this third
party solution whenever the customer is an entity covered by Section
508.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: Michelle Clark
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 6:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

Good Morning,

Discover Technology has also approached my Federal Department. Due to
funding, only  one of the Agencies has monies to purchase Discover 508.
I agree it is a  good product and the usability makes life much simpler
for a person using adaptive technology, but why should additional money
be used to make a  product accessible?

I  believe the fix is for Microsoft to make their product accessible.

Michelle



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Cook
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

Hi,

Our agency is moving to using SharePoint.  We have purchased Discovery
508.
This software installed on computers for staff using JAWS will change
the interface to make it easier for screen readers. HTH

Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate Avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Phone(803) 898-8788
Fax: (803) 898-8882
E-Mail: stc...@sccb.sc.gov


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tara Chavez
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 5:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft Sharepoint.

Hi all,
I never post here, but I joined this list a long time ago. I have a
question. I'm testing the accessibility of a web site on Microsoft Share
Point. I know it isn't completely accessible, but I wanted to know if
there was anything I could do to accurately test it for accessibility
using Jaws 15. I test for accessibility according to the standards
listed in section
508 of the Federal Rehabilitation act.
I look forward to any suggestions/recommendations you can provide.
Thank you,
Tara

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
March is Workplace Eye Wellness Month. According to the Center for
Disease Control, each day about 200 U.S. workers sustain a job related
eye injury that requires medical treatment. The SC Commission for the
Blind encourages everyone to follow all workplace safety rules to avoid
work related eye injuries. To see how the South Carolina Commission for
the Blind can help you or a loved one, give us a call at 1-888-335-5951
or visit us online at www.sccb.state.sc.us.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

2015-04-27 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
It's an enterprise level collaboration tool. We use it extensively. It
can be used by a work group or department to say, share calendars, or it
can be used by groups working together to share documents,
presentations, etc. it would allow a work group in L. A., for example,
to collaborate on the development of a webinar with say, a work group in
NY. It is becoming popular with all kinds of large organizations, from
government to private sector companies and corporations.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 6:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

I must live a sheltered life, but will somebody tell me what SharePoint
is?
I have heard of it but in all honesty never came in contact with it or
anybody who used it so far as I know. 


David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Michelle Clark
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 12:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

If it were properly tested prior to purchase by persons qualified to
find problems we would not be in such a  dilemma. No matter how,
Discover Technology has found a  solution for users of AT such as JAWS
can use SharePoint.

My issue is the end  user  ends up paying additional monies.  It flies
back in the face of the seller when the acquisition documentation has
the appropriate information and the seller still renders inaccessible
applications, etc.

Michelle

Michelle

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 11:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

I agree that non-compliant programs should not be purchased in the first
place.  But if accessibility issues are later found, Section 508 clearly
puts the burden on the seller's shoulders.  I am not saying anything
new, this aspect of Section 508 just seems to not be utilized to the
extent it should.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: gs
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 8:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

Hmm. This is an interesting viewpoint. However, I would suspect that if
SharePoint is not Section 508 compliant, it should not be procured On
Apr 24, 2015, at 9:26 PM, Tim Ford ttf...@gmail.com wrote:

Under Section 508 itself, it would seem that Microsoft could be required
to either make SharePoint accessible, or pay the cost of this third
party solution whenever the customer is an entity covered by Section
508.

Tim Ford


-Original Message- From: Michelle Clark
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 6:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

Good Morning,

Discover Technology has also approached my Federal Department. Due to
funding, only  one of the Agencies has monies to purchase Discover 508.
I agree it is a  good product and the usability makes life much simpler
for a person using adaptive technology, but why should additional money
be used to make a  product accessible?

I  believe the fix is for Microsoft to make their product accessible.

Michelle



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Cook
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

Hi,

Our agency is moving to using SharePoint.  We have purchased Discovery
508.
This software installed on computers for staff using JAWS will change
the interface to make it easier for screen readers. HTH

Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate Avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Phone(803) 898-8788
Fax: (803) 898-8882
E-Mail: stc...@sccb.sc.gov


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tara Chavez
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 5:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft Sharepoint.

Hi all,
I never post here, but I joined this list a long time ago. I have a
question. I'm testing the accessibility of a web site on Microsoft Share
Point. I know it isn't completely accessible, but I wanted to know if
there was anything I could do to accurately test it for accessibility
using Jaws 15. I test for accessibility according to the standards
listed in section
508 of the Federal Rehabilitation act.
I look forward to any suggestions/recommendations you can provide.
Thank you,
Tara

For answers

Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

2015-04-27 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
At least here at the VA the Section 508 office is understaffed and
underfunded, and often simply allows the software vendor to self certify
that their product complies with 508 and often does not do their own
testing.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 8:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

I agree that non-compliant programs should not be purchased in the first
place.  But if accessibility issues are later found, Section 508 clearly
puts the burden on the seller's shoulders.  I am not saying anything
new, this aspect of Section 508 just seems to not be utilized to the
extent it should.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: gs
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 8:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

Hmm. This is an interesting viewpoint. However, I would suspect that if
SharePoint is not Section 508 compliant, it should not be procured On
Apr 24, 2015, at 9:26 PM, Tim Ford ttf...@gmail.com wrote:

Under Section 508 itself, it would seem that Microsoft could be required
to either make SharePoint accessible, or pay the cost of this third
party solution whenever the customer is an entity covered by Section
508.

Tim Ford


-Original Message- From: Michelle Clark
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 6:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

Good Morning,

Discover Technology has also approached my Federal Department. Due to
funding, only  one of the Agencies has monies to purchase Discover 508.
I agree it is a  good product and the usability makes life much simpler
for a person using adaptive technology, but why should additional money
be used to make a  product accessible?

I  believe the fix is for Microsoft to make their product accessible.

Michelle



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Cook
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

Hi,

Our agency is moving to using SharePoint.  We have purchased Discovery
508.
This software installed on computers for staff using JAWS will change
the interface to make it easier for screen readers. HTH

Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate Avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Phone(803) 898-8788
Fax: (803) 898-8882
E-Mail: stc...@sccb.sc.gov


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tara Chavez
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 5:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft Sharepoint.

Hi all,
I never post here, but I joined this list a long time ago. I have a
question. I'm testing the accessibility of a web site on Microsoft Share
Point. I know it isn't completely accessible, but I wanted to know if
there was anything I could do to accurately test it for accessibility
using Jaws 15. I test for accessibility according to the standards
listed in section
508 of the Federal Rehabilitation act.
I look forward to any suggestions/recommendations you can provide.
Thank you,
Tara

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
March is Workplace Eye Wellness Month. According to the Center for
Disease Control, each day about 200 U.S. workers sustain a job related
eye injury that requires medical treatment. The SC Commission for the
Blind encourages everyone to follow all workplace safety rules to avoid
work related eye injuries. To see how the South Carolina Commission for
the Blind can help you or a loved one, give us a call at 1-888-335-5951
or visit us online at www.sccb.state.sc.us.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

2015-04-24 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
Isn't their product basically a collection of JAWS scripts?

Andy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Moderator
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

Okay folks, let's keep this discussion on-topic, as it relates to Jaws.

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: Michelle Clark mcik...@aol.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.


Good Morning,

Discover Technology has also approached my Federal Department. Due to
funding, only  one of the Agencies has monies to purchase Discover 508.
I
agree it is a  good product and the usability makes life much simpler
for a
person using adaptive technology, but why should additional money be
used to
make a  product accessible?

I  believe the fix is for Microsoft to make their product accessible.

Michelle



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Cook
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft SharePoint.

Hi,

Our agency is moving to using SharePoint.  We have purchased Discovery
508.
This software installed on computers for staff using JAWS will change
the
interface to make it easier for screen readers. HTH

Steve Cook, CPM
Assistive Technology Consultant
SC Commission for the Blind
1430 Confederate Avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Phone(803) 898-8788
Fax: (803) 898-8882
E-Mail: stc...@sccb.sc.gov


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tara Chavez
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 5:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 and Microsoft Sharepoint.

Hi all,
I never post here, but I joined this list a long time ago. I have a
question. I'm testing the accessibility of a web site on Microsoft Share
Point. I know it isn't completely accessible, but I wanted to know if
there
was anything I could do to accurately test it for accessibility using
Jaws
15. I test for accessibility according to the standards listed in
section
508 of the Federal Rehabilitation act.
I look forward to any suggestions/recommendations you can provide.
Thank you,
Tara

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
March is Workplace Eye Wellness Month. According to the Center for
Disease
Control, each day about 200 U.S. workers sustain a job related eye
injury
that requires medical treatment. The SC Commission for the Blind
encourages
everyone to follow all workplace safety rules to avoid work related eye
injuries. To see how the South Carolina Commission for the Blind can
help
you or a loved one, give us a call at 1-888-335-5951 or visit us online
at
www.sccb.state.sc.us.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/