Re: [JAWS-Users] can ribbon menus be removed in windows 10

2015-12-04 Thread David Bailes
Hopefully this message has a subject - apologies for the previous two which 
didn't. One of those days.

Hi Joanne, 
the following is a link to a guide to file explorer in Windows 8.1. It contains 
a section describing the ribbon in that program, and I don't think there are 
any changes in the ribbon in File explorer in Windows 10. 


http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/File-Explorer-8p1-Guide.html 
David. 

original message: 
I hope I won't get in trouble for possibly making this more of a thank you 
message, and yes those can clutter an in box. But I do want to say that, for 
example, in the case of ribbons, I appreciated David Bales' suggestions and 
they worked beautifully. I like that this group presents many approaches to the 
handling of apps and various work-arounds using Jaws. We're all learning, and 
for those of us who don't always understand new apps or layouts I appreciate 
help from those who can present an easier or, to me, familiar way of reaching 
my goals. 
I wouldn't mind learning more about ribbons and maybe there's a tutorial to 
explain them. But they don't make sense to me and I can't picture their  layout 
or how to find their menus. Someone suggested turning the virtual ribbon 
feature off in Jaws and I know many others use it. I'd be glad to hear an 
explanation of what exactly they are and how to find the menus you  need. I am 
using older email programs for this very reason--ribbons don't make sense. So 
if there's a tutorial that explains them thoroughly I would  check one out if 
anyone knows of one. 
But in the meantime I'm so relieved there are still other ways to avoid them 
till I learn more. 
Joanne 

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[JAWS-Users] can ribbon menus be removed in windows 10

2015-12-03 Thread David Bailes
Hi Joanne,
although you can't disable the ribbons, there are at least a couple of ways of 
changing the view setting which don't involve using the ribbon.
The first is to use shortcuts. Press ctrl+alt+5 for a list view, and press 
ctrl+alt+6 for a details view. (Note these shortcuts were ctrl+shift+number in 
windows 8 and 8.1).
The second is that with no items selected in the items view (you can press 
ctrl+spacebar to deselect an item if necessary), you can open a context menu, 
which contains a view sub menu.

David. 

original message:
I am using a friend's Windows 10 machine and I like being able to sort my songs 
and other lists in a list view.  When I hit alt V hoping to see status bar, 
list, etc., I see lower ribbon and something about panes and I am really upset 
that I can't get rid of these things and go back to the ability to sort by 
details or list, etc.  Can these ribbons be disabled?  I hope? 

Thanks. 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] can ribbon menus be removed in windows 10

2015-12-03 Thread Maria Campbell
I feel the exact same way.  I think ribbons are evil and unnecessary. 
Why create layers of hidden menus when the menu bar used to show all 
that could be done, and which was so much more accessible?
I will avoid them till I can no longer.  Hopefully, by then I will be 
able to use my voice to get done what I need, if I live that long.



On 12/3/2015 12:43 PM, joanne wrote:

I hope I won't get in trouble for possibly making this more of a thank
you message, and yes those can clutter an in box.  But I do want to say
that, for example, in the case of ribbons, I appreciated David Bales'
suggestions and they worked beautifully.  I like that this group
presents many approaches to the handling of apps and various
work-arounds using Jaws. We're all learning, and for those of us who
don't always understand new apps or layouts I appreciate help from those
who can present an easier or, to me, familiar way of reaching my goals.

I wouldn't mind learning more about ribbons and maybe there's a tutorial
to explain them.  But they don't make sense to me and I can't picture
their layout or how to find their menus.  Someone suggested turning the
virtual ribbon feature off in Jaws and I know many others use it.  I'd
be glad to hear an explanation of what exactly they are and how to find
the menus you need.  I am using older email programs for this very
reason--ribbons don't make sense.  So if there's a tutorial that
explains them thoroughly I would check one out if anyone knows of one.

But in the meantime I'm so relieved there are still other ways to avoid
them till I learn more.

Joanne



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Re: [JAWS-Users] can ribbon menus be removed in windows 10

2015-12-03 Thread joanne
I hope I won't get in trouble for possibly making this more of a thank you 
message, and yes those can clutter an in box.  But I do want to say that, 
for example, in the case of ribbons, I appreciated David Bales' suggestions 
and they worked beautifully.  I like that this group presents many 
approaches to the handling of apps and various work-arounds using Jaws. 
We're all learning, and for those of us who don't always understand new apps 
or layouts I appreciate help from those who can present an easier or, to me, 
familiar way of reaching my goals.


I wouldn't mind learning more about ribbons and maybe there's a tutorial to 
explain them.  But they don't make sense to me and I can't picture their 
layout or how to find their menus.  Someone suggested turning the virtual 
ribbon feature off in Jaws and I know many others use it.  I'd be glad to 
hear an explanation of what exactly they are and how to find the menus you 
need.  I am using older email programs for this very reason--ribbons don't 
make sense.  So if there's a tutorial that explains them thoroughly I would 
check one out if anyone knows of one.


But in the meantime I'm so relieved there are still other ways to avoid them 
till I learn more.


Joanne



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[JAWS-Users] can ribbon menus be removed in windows 10

2015-12-02 Thread joanne
I am using a friend's Windows 10 machine and I like being able to sort my songs 
and other lists in a list view.  When I hit alt V hoping to see status bar, 
list, etc., I see lower ribbon and something about panes and I am really upset 
that I can't get rid of these things and go back to the ability to sort by 
details or list, etc.  Can these ribbons be disabled?  I hope?

Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] can ribbon menus be removed in windows 10

2015-12-02 Thread Alan Robbins
Unfortunately, ribbons are here to stay.
Are you using the Jaws feature, virtual  ribbons?

Best,
Al

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I am using a friend's Windows 10 machine and I like being
able to sort my songs and other lists in a list view.  When
I hit alt V hoping to see status bar, list, etc., I see
lower ribbon and something about panes and I am really upset
that I can't get rid of these things and go back to the
ability to sort by details or list, etc.  Can these ribbons
be disabled?  I hope?

Thanks.
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visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] can ribbon menus be removed in windows 10

2015-12-02 Thread Manish Nagwani
Go to jaws help menu and disable  ribbon option in startup whizard.

On 12/3/15, Alan Robbins <alan1...@me.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately, ribbons are here to stay.
> Are you using the Jaws feature, virtual  ribbons?
>
> Best,
> Al
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List
> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
> joanne
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:44 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] can ribbon menus be removed in windows
> 10
>
> I am using a friend's Windows 10 machine and I like being
> able to sort my songs and other lists in a list view.  When
> I hit alt V hoping to see status bar, list, etc., I see
> lower ribbon and something about panes and I am really upset
> that I can't get rid of these things and go back to the
> ability to sort by details or list, etc.  Can these ribbons
> be disabled?  I hope?
>
> Thanks.
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list
> visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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