Re: [JAWS-Users] An unusual query re vocalizer voices
Well, remember that you can have multiple voices having a conversation with each other and alternate them with the appropriate tags. On 12/19/17, JM Casey wrote: > Hey. > Thanks for this info. It looks like if I want to use Vocalizer, I will just > have to make recordings ahead of time and present them to her, which might > be amusing, but probably not as fun/interactive for her. Oh well, it's ok. > This Eloquence and DecTalk Window thing looks like it has possibilities, > even though I was kind of hoping to be able to use Vocalizer and it's > rather > human-sounding voices/expressions. Right now I'm alternating between > Daniel, > Kate and Tom, but changing the voice is a little less immediate/more > complicated. > > That unicode voice change is a neat trick. I haven't used Eloquence for a > while, but I do seem to remember something about this. Cheers. > > > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Roger Newell > Sent: December 18, 2017 5:09 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An unusual query re vocalizer voices > > It can be done more easily with Eloquence. Use the backquote symbol > (Unicode > 2035) followed by the letter v and the number from 1 to 8 corresponding to > the voice that you desire. Using other parameters, you can also adjust > speed, pitch, breathiness and roughness. JAWS has an interesting > interpretation on this that may not always work, so you might prefer using > the Eloquence speak window available from this link > (http://www.grossgang.com/tts/old_software_synths/ETI-Eloquence_speak_window > .exe) > where you can just enter the ` symbol instead of having to use the > backquote > symbol. The Eloquence speak window also allows for adjusting other > parameters such as intonation and vocal tract that JAWS does not allow for. > The manual available at this link gives instructions on the full range of > capabilities of the Eloquence Speak Window: > http://www.grossgang.com/tts/old_software_synths/eloqman.zip > > Alternatively, your niece may prefer the DECtalk speak window available > from > http://www.theflameofhope.co/dectalk/440/dectalk440.zip > which allows for its own set of vocal parameters that can be adjusted from > the keyboard, but also has pictures that your niece may prefer to use. > > On 12/19/17, JM Casey wrote: >> Hi everyone. >> >> >> >> This isn't an important matter or anything very serious, but here >> goes. I have a niece who's recently become fascinated with my computer >> and screen-reader. Although such things are becoming more normal in >> the sighted world, it's still a rather novel thing for her, that I can >> type things into the computer and have it read them back to her, and >> so on. She likes the different voices Vocalizer provides and imagines >> conversations between them. >> What I thought was: it'd be cool to be able to write a script or >> something that allows you to switch very easily, say, with a single >> keystroke, or even to embed commands to switch voices within a >> document to have it happen automatically as the document reads. I know >> this isn't something that would really benefit screen-reader users at >> all; it's just a cute thing that would make an eight-year-old happy. >> Of course, I could always record something with different voices and >> present it to her, but she likes the spontaneous approach. I wonder, >> has anyone ever done something like this? I'd be interested to hear. >> >> >> >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] An unusual query re vocalizer voices
Hey. Thanks for this info. It looks like if I want to use Vocalizer, I will just have to make recordings ahead of time and present them to her, which might be amusing, but probably not as fun/interactive for her. Oh well, it's ok. This Eloquence and DecTalk Window thing looks like it has possibilities, even though I was kind of hoping to be able to use Vocalizer and it's rather human-sounding voices/expressions. Right now I'm alternating between Daniel, Kate and Tom, but changing the voice is a little less immediate/more complicated. That unicode voice change is a neat trick. I haven't used Eloquence for a while, but I do seem to remember something about this. Cheers. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Roger Newell Sent: December 18, 2017 5:09 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An unusual query re vocalizer voices It can be done more easily with Eloquence. Use the backquote symbol (Unicode 2035) followed by the letter v and the number from 1 to 8 corresponding to the voice that you desire. Using other parameters, you can also adjust speed, pitch, breathiness and roughness. JAWS has an interesting interpretation on this that may not always work, so you might prefer using the Eloquence speak window available from this link (http://www.grossgang.com/tts/old_software_synths/ETI-Eloquence_speak_window .exe) where you can just enter the ` symbol instead of having to use the backquote symbol. The Eloquence speak window also allows for adjusting other parameters such as intonation and vocal tract that JAWS does not allow for. The manual available at this link gives instructions on the full range of capabilities of the Eloquence Speak Window: http://www.grossgang.com/tts/old_software_synths/eloqman.zip Alternatively, your niece may prefer the DECtalk speak window available from http://www.theflameofhope.co/dectalk/440/dectalk440.zip which allows for its own set of vocal parameters that can be adjusted from the keyboard, but also has pictures that your niece may prefer to use. On 12/19/17, JM Casey wrote: > Hi everyone. > > > > This isn't an important matter or anything very serious, but here > goes. I have a niece who's recently become fascinated with my computer > and screen-reader. Although such things are becoming more normal in > the sighted world, it's still a rather novel thing for her, that I can > type things into the computer and have it read them back to her, and > so on. She likes the different voices Vocalizer provides and imagines > conversations between them. > What I thought was: it'd be cool to be able to write a script or > something that allows you to switch very easily, say, with a single > keystroke, or even to embed commands to switch voices within a > document to have it happen automatically as the document reads. I know > this isn't something that would really benefit screen-reader users at > all; it's just a cute thing that would make an eight-year-old happy. > Of course, I could always record something with different voices and > present it to her, but she likes the spontaneous approach. I wonder, > has anyone ever done something like this? I'd be interested to hear. > > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] An unusual query re vocalizer voices
Ah, yes, that's interesting, and would probably be along the lines of what I'd like to do to make her happy. You know, make it as if the "voices in the computer" (I put that in quotes btw) are having conversations with each other. I'm not familiar with Text Aloud. I presume that wouldn't have access to the Vocalizer voices, which are as far as I know a JAWS add-on. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Samco Sent: December 18, 2017 5:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] An unusual query re vocalizer voices I've done something like this but maybe not as spontaneous as you and your niece are envisioning. I would use Text Aloud on my Windows PC and generate audio MP3 files for a blind friend to create audio Bible study lessons. In Text Aloud there are ways of inserting changes in speech voices, adding pauses, etc. I would use different voices for the lesson content and the actual scriptures when read within the lesson. I learned the codes and would work up a document in Word. Then, I could paste the entire text into Text Aloud and either generate an immediate reading out or generate an MP3 file. HTH, Jeff At 12:04 PM 12/18/2017, you wrote: >Hi everyone. > > > >This isn't an important matter or anything very serious, but here goes. >I have a niece who's recently become fascinated with my computer and >screen-reader. Although such things are becoming more normal in the >sighted world, it's still a rather novel thing for her, that I can type >things into the computer and have it read them back to her, and so on. >She likes the different voices Vocalizer provides and imagines conversations between them. >What I thought was: it'd be cool to be able to write a script or >something that allows you to switch very easily, say, with a single >keystroke, or even to embed commands to switch voices within a document >to have it happen automatically as the document reads. I know this >isn't something that would really benefit screen-reader users at all; >it's just a cute thing that would make an eight-year-old happy. Of >course, I could always record something with different voices and >present it to her, but she likes the spontaneous approach. I wonder, >has anyone ever done something like this? I'd be interested to hear. > > > > > >For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >http://www.avg.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] An unusual query re vocalizer voices
I've done something like this but maybe not as spontaneous as you and your niece are envisioning. I would use Text Aloud on my Windows PC and generate audio MP3 files for a blind friend to create audio Bible study lessons. In Text Aloud there are ways of inserting changes in speech voices, adding pauses, etc. I would use different voices for the lesson content and the actual scriptures when read within the lesson. I learned the codes and would work up a document in Word. Then, I could paste the entire text into Text Aloud and either generate an immediate reading out or generate an MP3 file. HTH, Jeff At 12:04 PM 12/18/2017, you wrote: Hi everyone. This isn't an important matter or anything very serious, but here goes. I have a niece who's recently become fascinated with my computer and screen-reader. Although such things are becoming more normal in the sighted world, it's still a rather novel thing for her, that I can type things into the computer and have it read them back to her, and so on. She likes the different voices Vocalizer provides and imagines conversations between them. What I thought was: it'd be cool to be able to write a script or something that allows you to switch very easily, say, with a single keystroke, or even to embed commands to switch voices within a document to have it happen automatically as the document reads. I know this isn't something that would really benefit screen-reader users at all; it's just a cute thing that would make an eight-year-old happy. Of course, I could always record something with different voices and present it to her, but she likes the spontaneous approach. I wonder, has anyone ever done something like this? I'd be interested to hear. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] An unusual query re vocalizer voices
It can be done more easily with Eloquence. Use the backquote symbol (Unicode 2035) followed by the letter v and the number from 1 to 8 corresponding to the voice that you desire. Using other parameters, you can also adjust speed, pitch, breathiness and roughness. JAWS has an interesting interpretation on this that may not always work, so you might prefer using the Eloquence speak window available from this link (http://www.grossgang.com/tts/old_software_synths/ETI-Eloquence_speak_window.exe) where you can just enter the ` symbol instead of having to use the backquote symbol. The Eloquence speak window also allows for adjusting other parameters such as intonation and vocal tract that JAWS does not allow for. The manual available at this link gives instructions on the full range of capabilities of the Eloquence Speak Window: http://www.grossgang.com/tts/old_software_synths/eloqman.zip Alternatively, your niece may prefer the DECtalk speak window available from http://www.theflameofhope.co/dectalk/440/dectalk440.zip which allows for its own set of vocal parameters that can be adjusted from the keyboard, but also has pictures that your niece may prefer to use. On 12/19/17, JM Casey wrote: > Hi everyone. > > > > This isn't an important matter or anything very serious, but here goes. I > have a niece who's recently become fascinated with my computer and > screen-reader. Although such things are becoming more normal in the sighted > world, it's still a rather novel thing for her, that I can type things into > the computer and have it read them back to her, and so on. She likes the > different voices Vocalizer provides and imagines conversations between > them. > What I thought was: it'd be cool to be able to write a script or something > that allows you to switch very easily, say, with a single keystroke, or > even > to embed commands to switch voices within a document to have it happen > automatically as the document reads. I know this isn't something that would > really benefit screen-reader users at all; it's just a cute thing that > would > make an eight-year-old happy. Of course, I could always record something > with different voices and present it to her, but she likes the spontaneous > approach. I wonder, has anyone ever done something like this? I'd be > interested to hear. > > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] An unusual query re vocalizer voices
Hi everyone. This isn't an important matter or anything very serious, but here goes. I have a niece who's recently become fascinated with my computer and screen-reader. Although such things are becoming more normal in the sighted world, it's still a rather novel thing for her, that I can type things into the computer and have it read them back to her, and so on. She likes the different voices Vocalizer provides and imagines conversations between them. What I thought was: it'd be cool to be able to write a script or something that allows you to switch very easily, say, with a single keystroke, or even to embed commands to switch voices within a document to have it happen automatically as the document reads. I know this isn't something that would really benefit screen-reader users at all; it's just a cute thing that would make an eight-year-old happy. Of course, I could always record something with different voices and present it to her, but she likes the spontaneous approach. I wonder, has anyone ever done something like this? I'd be interested to hear. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
