Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display? (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-06-13 Thread Stephan, William S NWK
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Some people have trouble plugging the USB cable into the Refreshabraille, but 
there's a technique that helps much with this.  I had a Braille Pen for a 
while, but returned it because it just wasn't engineered well, it had a long 
joystick and was just generally clunky.  Not sure about the small Freedom 
Scientific displays, but I like the APH Refreshabraille 18, it's ruggedly 
constructed and has a very long battery life.
 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of East, Robin
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 8:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

I would be interested in the information as well. 

Later
Robin East


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Annette Carr
Sent: June 12, 2014 6:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

You might want to also compare the Perkins Braille Mini.  I did a comparison
of braille displays at work about a year ago, I'll see if I can find it.
There was one of them that people reported that it was very difficult to
plug the cable into it to charge it.  Unfortunately, I can't remember which
one that was.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing more 
research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through Flying 
Blind for just under $1,000.

Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't get the 
dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a 
dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

I would be very grateful for any information you might have about them, both

good and bad.

Sincerely, Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: Jorge Paez
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Focus 14?
I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
I can personally recommend it.
Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
device but it is an FS product so it should work.

On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added bonus
 of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB and/or
 Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
 5S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


 Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
 that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by USB
 or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
 part of a device that has any of its own computability.

 Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 7
 computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

 Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
 Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display? (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-06-13 Thread Vicky Vaughan

Stephan, The Braille Pen that you had, was it the 12 Touch?

Since the BP 12 T is over $300 less than the Freedom scientific and is less 
than a third of the weight, I have been seriously considering it.


However, your comments regarding its clunkiness and poor construction are 
very caussionary.


I would really like to hear more about your experiences with your Braille 
Pen!


Thank you very much for righting to let me know about your experiences! 
Vicky


-Original Message- 
From: Stephan, William S NWK

Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 11:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Some people have trouble plugging the USB cable into the Refreshabraille, 
but there's a technique that helps much with this.  I had a Braille Pen for 
a while, but returned it because it just wasn't engineered well, it had a 
long joystick and was just generally clunky.  Not sure about the small 
Freedom Scientific displays, but I like the APH Refreshabraille 18, it's 
ruggedly constructed and has a very long battery life.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of East, Robin

Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 8:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

I would be interested in the information as well.

Later
Robin East


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Annette Carr

Sent: June 12, 2014 6:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

You might want to also compare the Perkins Braille Mini.  I did a comparison
of braille displays at work about a year ago, I'll see if I can find it.
There was one of them that people reported that it was very difficult to
plug the cable into it to charge it.  Unfortunately, I can't remember which
one that was.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing more
research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through Flying
Blind for just under $1,000.

Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't get the
dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a
dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

I would be very grateful for any information you might have about them, both

good and bad.

Sincerely, Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: Jorge Paez

Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Focus 14?
I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
I can personally recommend it.
Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
device but it is an FS product so it should work.

On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:

The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added bonus
of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB and/or
Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
5S.

- Original Message -
From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?



Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by USB
or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
part of a device that has any of its own computability.

Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 7
computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display? (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-06-13 Thread Jorge Paez
I have a Refreshabraille and its great!
The only problem I've had is JAWS.
JAWS and the Refreshabraille simply do not get along.
However, if you're going to be using this with IOS devices, its great!
Oh, and as far as the usb thing, its a pain to connect it to the
refreshabraille, but with a little tinkering you can do it.
I just leave the cable attached wherever I go even though I usually
don't use it via USB.
Its better for keeping things together too anyway.



On 6/13/14, Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Stephan, The Braille Pen that you had, was it the 12 Touch?

 Since the BP 12 T is over $300 less than the Freedom scientific and is less

 than a third of the weight, I have been seriously considering it.

 However, your comments regarding its clunkiness and poor construction are
 very caussionary.

 I would really like to hear more about your experiences with your Braille
 Pen!

 Thank you very much for righting to let me know about your experiences!
 Vicky

 -Original Message-
 From: Stephan, William S NWK
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 11:24 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display? (UNCLASSIFIED)

 Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
 Caveats: NONE

 Some people have trouble plugging the USB cable into the Refreshabraille,
 but there's a technique that helps much with this.  I had a Braille Pen for

 a while, but returned it because it just wasn't engineered well, it had a
 long joystick and was just generally clunky.  Not sure about the small
 Freedom Scientific displays, but I like the APH Refreshabraille 18, it's
 ruggedly constructed and has a very long battery life.


 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of East, Robin
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 8:42 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 I would be interested in the information as well.

 Later
 Robin East


 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Annette Carr
 Sent: June 12, 2014 6:09 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 You might want to also compare the Perkins Braille Mini.  I did a
 comparison
 of braille displays at work about a year ago, I'll see if I can find it.
 There was one of them that people reported that it was very difficult to
 plug the cable into it to charge it.  Unfortunately, I can't remember which
 one that was.

 Annette


 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:52 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing more
 research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through Flying
 Blind for just under $1,000.

 Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't get the
 dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

 I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a
 dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

 Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

 I would be very grateful for any information you might have about them,
 both

 good and bad.

 Sincerely, Vicky

 -Original Message-
 From: Jorge Paez
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

 Focus 14?
 I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
 I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
 I can personally recommend it.
 Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
 device but it is an FS product so it should work.

 On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added bonus
 of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB and/or
 Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
 5S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


 Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
 that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by USB
 or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
 part of a device that has any of its own computability.

 Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 7
 computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

 Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
 Vicky
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display? (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-06-13 Thread Stephan, William S NWK
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

Refreshabraille 18 by APH would be a good choice.  You can connect via USB or 
Bluetooth, and it's a dumb display.  The keyboard is quiet and it has routing 
buttons and advance bars.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of East, Robin
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Yes,this would be good.
Thank you



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: June 13, 2014 10:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Hi List, I am making a document of the wright ups on the displays that 
interest me. I'll Pass this on to the list, if you all want.

Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: East, Robin
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 9:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

I would be interested in the information as well.

Later
Robin East


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: June 12, 2014 6:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

You might want to also compare the Perkins Braille Mini.  I did a comparison
of braille displays at work about a year ago, I'll see if I can find it.
There was one of them that people reported that it was very difficult to
plug the cable into it to charge it.  Unfortunately, I can't remember which
one that was.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Thanks  Flor and George, for getting back to me. I have been doing more
research on Braille displays and found the Braille Pen sold through Flying
Blind for just under $1,000.

Unfortunately, the sails rep won't be back until Monday, so I can't get the
dimensions or wait of the Braille Pen.

I was told by Freedomscientific, that their Focus 14, is the size of a
dollar bill and waighing 2 pounds, costs $1,295 .

Has anyone on this list seen both and can compare them for us?

I would be very grateful for any information you might have about them, both

good and bad.

Sincerely, Vicky

-Original Message- 
From: Jorge Paez
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?

Focus 14?
I think you're talking about the Focus 18?
I saw the tiny one on demo last year, and its great.
I can personally recommend it.
Don't know about JAWS compatibility since I only tried it on an IOS
device but it is an FS product so it should work.

On 6/12/14, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 The Focus 14 Blue refreshable braille display, which has the added bonus
 of being an FS product, works with both computer and iPhone, USB and/or
 Bluetooth. it is just a little (an inch or two) wider than the iPhone
 5S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Vicky Vaughan vrvaugha...@gmail.com
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:44 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Braille display?


 Hi Jaws people, Do any of you know of a really small Braille display
 that is Jaws compatible and iPhone friendly and connects either by USB
 or Bluetooth? I am looking for just the display and not one that is
 part of a device that has any of its own computability.

 Hopefully, this would be able to work with either or both my Windows 7
 computer using Jaws 15 as well as my iPhone 5.

 Thanks so much for any input or comments about your small display!
 Vicky
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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