Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop
Hi, I received an HP computer for Christmas. I have the same situation of not having an applications key. First of all, shift + F10 does the same thing as the application key. Next, will JAWS work in the bios, or does that require sighted help? I would like to get my function keys working the way they are supposed to as well. That is a pain having to press the FN key and the F4, for example. If that will work with JAWS, I will go into the bios and do that. Thanks and congrads on your new HP. I love HP computers. Have a great one. -Original Message- From: Steve Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop Curt, HP has re-mapped the function keys. Usually, just to the right of the lefthand control-key is a Func key. You need to press that in conjunction woith one of the functionkeys f1-f12 to get it to do the traditional function. Otherwise, you are in what HP calls ActionKey mode. Generally, you can return the HP to function like normal: This "amazing" technology is called "Action Keys Mode", and the good news is that it is very easily turned off to get your laptop back to working the standard way of having to press the fn key. Steps to fix: - Shut Down your computer completely. Don't put in Sleep or Hibernate - Press Power button to start - Immediately press F10 key a few times - This will start the BIOS - Go to 3rd page (System Configuration). Press right arrow key to go to next page - Select the "Action Keys Mode". Press ENTER. Select DISABLE - Save and Exit "A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of a masochist and a very large optimist." Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: Kurt Miller To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop Hi all, Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f keys? Thanks for any help. Kurt After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop
Hi, it is accessed often by pressing f8 I believe it is while the pc is first starting up allowing someone with vision to choose how they'd like to boot the pc I.E. into system bios or safe mode or normal for instance. I've been told by HP reps that it also can be found after pressing control alt and delete together. I hope that helps. If you have a pair of eyes handy you could try that or call when they're available and I'm sure that HP tech support could walk you through it. they do have a special accessibility department. Its number is: 877-656-7058 I hope that helps. Robin -Original Message- From: Kurt Miller Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 12:51 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop Wayne and Robin, First, thanks for responding. Wayne, I do not have those extra keys on mine. Robin, do you know where the bios is at so that I can get sighted help to get this working? Kurt After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop Hi, Sadly with HP's the only way to change that setting is to get someone with a pair of eyes to walk through their instructions for changing that setting in bios. Other makes sometimes have the setting available under keyboard settings in control panel or system but not HP sorry to say. I wish I had better news but there you have it. Robin -Original Message- From: Kurt Miller Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop Hi all, Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f keys? Thanks for any help. Kurt After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop
Thanks, I'll have it looked at after work today. If not I'll give them a call. After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 3:45 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop Hi, it is accessed often by pressing f8 I believe it is while the pc is first starting up allowing someone with vision to choose how they'd like to boot the pc I.E. into system bios or safe mode or normal for instance. I've been told by HP reps that it also can be found after pressing control alt and delete together. I hope that helps. If you have a pair of eyes handy you could try that or call when they're available and I'm sure that HP tech support could walk you through it. they do have a special accessibility department. Its number is: 877-656-7058 I hope that helps. Robin -Original Message- From: Kurt Miller Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 12:51 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop Wayne and Robin, First, thanks for responding. Wayne, I do not have those extra keys on mine. Robin, do you know where the bios is at so that I can get sighted help to get this working? Kurt After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop Hi, Sadly with HP's the only way to change that setting is to get someone with a pair of eyes to walk through their instructions for changing that setting in bios. Other makes sometimes have the setting available under keyboard settings in control panel or system but not HP sorry to say. I wish I had better news but there you have it. Robin -Original Message- From: Kurt Miller Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop Hi all, Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f keys? Thanks for any help. Kurt After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop
try the key combination of shift f10 On 12/30/15, Robin Frost <robin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > it is accessed often by pressing f8 I believe it is while the pc is first > starting up allowing someone with vision to choose how they'd like to boot > the pc I.E. into system bios or safe mode or normal for instance. I've been > > told by HP reps that it also can be found after pressing control alt and > delete together. > I hope that helps. > If you have a pair of eyes handy you could try that or call when they're > available and I'm sure that HP tech support could walk you through it. they > > do have a special accessibility department. Its number is: > 877-656-7058 > I hope that helps. > Robin > > > -Original Message- > From: Kurt Miller > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 12:51 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new > HPlaptop > > Wayne and Robin, > First, thanks for responding. Wayne, I do not have those extra keys on > mine. > Robin, do you know where the bios is at so that I can get sighted help to > get this working? > Kurt > > After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as > resilient > as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! > > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Robin Frost > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:47 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP > laptop > > Hi, > Sadly with HP's the only way to change that setting is to get someone with > a > pair of eyes to walk through their instructions for changing that setting > in > bios. Other makes sometimes have the setting available under keyboard > settings in control panel or system but not HP sorry to say. > I wish I had better news but there you have it. > Robin > > > -Original Message- > From: Kurt Miller > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop > > Hi all, > > Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the > function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, > in > fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works > anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the > volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can > anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f > keys? > > Thanks for any help. > > Kurt > > > > After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as > resilient > as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > -- efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop
hello; I've never had or used hp notebook, however, you may want to check in the windows mobility center to se if it's possible to change the function key behavior. I no for example this is possible with the dell computers. -Original Message- From: wayne smith Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop I have a new HP laptop and I use either the right mouse button on the numb pad or there is a double bar at the bottom of the keyboard under the spacebar and the right side of that opens the context menu. I don't know if you have the same extra bars on the keyboard you have. I still haven't figured out how to make the FN key work with the row of F keys. I had 2 Asus machines and they were easier. Wayne -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Miller Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop Hi all, Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f keys? Thanks for any help. Kurt After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop
Try holding down the function key as you use the f1 or 2 keys. See if that helps. It is not convenient, but at least you can use the function keys as you normally would. You may have to use the shift f10 as the applications key. -Original Message- From: wayne smith Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop I have a new HP laptop and I use either the right mouse button on the numb pad or there is a double bar at the bottom of the keyboard under the spacebar and the right side of that opens the context menu. I don't know if you have the same extra bars on the keyboard you have. I still haven't figured out how to make the FN key work with the row of F keys. I had 2 Asus machines and they were easier. Wayne -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Miller Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop Hi all, Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f keys? Thanks for any help. Kurt After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/