Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on newHPlaptop
Absolutely correct and I am not sure that they ever will to be honest. It would require a lot of work for little return on the manufactorer's part. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: 31 December 2015 00:43 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on newHPlaptop Hi, Sorry to say that at the present officially no screen readers work in the bios area as no sound drivers load when booted into it. Robin -Original Message- From: David Moore Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 7:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on newHPlaptop Hi, I received an HP computer for Christmas. I have the same situation of not having an applications key. First of all, shift + F10 does the same thing as the application key. Next, will JAWS work in the bios, or does that require sighted help? I would like to get my function keys working the way they are supposed to as well. That is a pain having to press the FN key and the F4, for example. If that will work with JAWS, I will go into the bios and do that. Thanks and congrads on your new HP. I love HP computers. Have a great one. -Original Message- From: Steve Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop Curt, HP has re-mapped the function keys. Usually, just to the right of the lefthand control-key is a Func key. You need to press that in conjunction woith one of the functionkeys f1-f12 to get it to do the traditional function. Otherwise, you are in what HP calls ActionKey mode. Generally, you can return the HP to function like normal: This "amazing" technology is called "Action Keys Mode", and the good news is that it is very easily turned off to get your laptop back to working the standard way of having to press the fn key. Steps to fix: - Shut Down your computer completely. Don't put in Sleep or Hibernate - Press Power button to start - Immediately press F10 key a few times - This will start the BIOS - Go to 3rd page (System Configuration). Press right arrow key to go to next page - Select the "Action Keys Mode". Press ENTER. Select DISABLE - Save and Exit "A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of a masochist and a very large optimist." Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: Kurt Miller To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop Hi all, Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f keys? Thanks for any help. Kurt After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSi recipients NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on newHPlaptop
Thanks much, I will definitely check into it. -Original Message- From: david Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on newHPlaptop hello; I've never had or used hp notebook, however, you may want to check in the windows mobility center to se if it's possible to change the function key behavior. I no for example this is possible with the dell computers. -Original Message- From: wayne smith Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop I have a new HP laptop and I use either the right mouse button on the numb pad or there is a double bar at the bottom of the keyboard under the spacebar and the right side of that opens the context menu. I don't know if you have the same extra bars on the keyboard you have. I still haven't figured out how to make the FN key work with the row of F keys. I had 2 Asus machines and they were easier. Wayne -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Miller Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop Hi all, Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f keys? Thanks for any help. Kurt After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on newHPlaptop
Hi, Sorry to say that at the present officially no screen readers work in the bios area as no sound drivers load when booted into it. Robin -Original Message- From: David Moore Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 7:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on newHPlaptop Hi, I received an HP computer for Christmas. I have the same situation of not having an applications key. First of all, shift + F10 does the same thing as the application key. Next, will JAWS work in the bios, or does that require sighted help? I would like to get my function keys working the way they are supposed to as well. That is a pain having to press the FN key and the F4, for example. If that will work with JAWS, I will go into the bios and do that. Thanks and congrads on your new HP. I love HP computers. Have a great one. -Original Message- From: Steve Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop Curt, HP has re-mapped the function keys. Usually, just to the right of the lefthand control-key is a Func key. You need to press that in conjunction woith one of the functionkeys f1-f12 to get it to do the traditional function. Otherwise, you are in what HP calls ActionKey mode. Generally, you can return the HP to function like normal: This "amazing" technology is called "Action Keys Mode", and the good news is that it is very easily turned off to get your laptop back to working the standard way of having to press the fn key. Steps to fix: - Shut Down your computer completely. Don't put in Sleep or Hibernate - Press Power button to start - Immediately press F10 key a few times - This will start the BIOS - Go to 3rd page (System Configuration). Press right arrow key to go to next page - Select the "Action Keys Mode". Press ENTER. Select DISABLE - Save and Exit "A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of a masochist and a very large optimist." Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: Kurt Miller To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop Hi all, Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f keys? Thanks for any help. Kurt After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on newHPlaptop
that's funny, has HP stopped putting an application key on their laptops and netbooks? I have a HP mini 210 2145DX and it has an application key! -Original Message- From: David Moore Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 4:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on newHPlaptop Hi, I received an HP computer for Christmas. I have the same situation of not having an applications key. First of all, shift + F10 does the same thing as the application key. Next, will JAWS work in the bios, or does that require sighted help? I would like to get my function keys working the way they are supposed to as well. That is a pain having to press the FN key and the F4, for example. If that will work with JAWS, I will go into the bios and do that. Thanks and congrads on your new HP. I love HP computers. Have a great one. -Original Message- From: Steve Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop Curt, HP has re-mapped the function keys. Usually, just to the right of the lefthand control-key is a Func key. You need to press that in conjunction woith one of the functionkeys f1-f12 to get it to do the traditional function. Otherwise, you are in what HP calls ActionKey mode. Generally, you can return the HP to function like normal: This "amazing" technology is called "Action Keys Mode", and the good news is that it is very easily turned off to get your laptop back to working the standard way of having to press the fn key. Steps to fix: - Shut Down your computer completely. Don't put in Sleep or Hibernate - Press Power button to start - Immediately press F10 key a few times - This will start the BIOS - Go to 3rd page (System Configuration). Press right arrow key to go to next page - Select the "Action Keys Mode". Press ENTER. Select DISABLE - Save and Exit "A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of a masochist and a very large optimist." Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: Kurt Miller To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop Hi all, Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f keys? Thanks for any help. Kurt After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on newHPlaptop
Shift f10 should get you into the context menu. Arianna - Original Message - From: "david" <davidmac1...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on newHPlaptop hello; I've never had or used hp notebook, however, you may want to check in the windows mobility center to se if it's possible to change the function key behavior. I no for example this is possible with the dell computers. -Original Message- From: wayne smith Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop I have a new HP laptop and I use either the right mouse button on the numb pad or there is a double bar at the bottom of the keyboard under the spacebar and the right side of that opens the context menu. I don't know if you have the same extra bars on the keyboard you have. I still haven't figured out how to make the FN key work with the row of F keys. I had 2 Asus machines and they were easier. Wayne -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Miller Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop Hi all, Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f keys? Thanks for any help. Kurt After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
