Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

2016-08-14 Thread LeDon Becker
Where do you find user documentation for, Liver office?  Does the word 
processor have a good spell check? 

From: David Moore 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

Hi Tom,,
I use Libre Office, and it works good with JAWS. It has Word, Excel, and 
most programs that correspond to MS Office. I have tried Open Office, but it 
was not nearly as accessible with JAWS as Libre Office is. Take care.
David Moore


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

  my laptop doesn't have ms office on it, and need a ms office type
program on it, that works with jaws 17. anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

2016-08-14 Thread LeDon Becker
So, where do you find the key strokes for open office. Does it have 
a good spell check along with it?  Where can I find a user manual?

From: Scorpio 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 9:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

You can use Open Office, which is an open source project and is free to use 
and completely accessible.

Scorpio

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From: Tom Clary
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS office substitute

2016-08-14 Thread Tom

here here

-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 9:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MS office substitute

Kurt,

What a terrific post. It's frustrating when people blandly post that a 
complex program is completely accessible because accessibility is rarely 
complete. Your careful qualifications will help people decide whether to 
take the time to try out Libre Office if they're in the market for a Windows 
Office substitute. It's really appreciated.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of kurt miller

Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 7:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

Tom,

For those who aren't familiar with this product, LibreOffice is a free, open 
source Office suite, similar in capabilities to the well-known Microsoft 
Office. Its word processor is similar to Word in many respects but is 
referred to as Writer, their Excel-like spreadsheet is called Calc and it 
contains other programs as well. It may be appealing to some for several 
reasons. First, it's absolutely free; no licensing, no registration or 
activation required. It can open and save in Microsoft's formats, meaning 
that it can open Word files or save spreadsheets in Excel's own format. It 
also uses the traditional menu bar like Office

2003: no ribbons.

To be honest, when it comes to accessibility it's adequate and usable but it 
doesn't provide the stellar performance we're used to with Microsoft's 
Office products. It performs quite well with NVDA and, as of several 
versions ago, usable with JAWS. It never worked with Window-Eyes, crashing 
every time Window-Eyes was running although I haven't tested it with the 
newest LibreOffice and Window-eyes 9.5.


PCWorld has a brief review of LibreOffice 5.2 at

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3102849/software-productivity/libreoffice-52-
includes-classified-documents-and-a-streamlined-interface.html

You can read more about LibreOffice and download it at

www.LibreOffice.org

HTh,
Kurt



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Behalf Of Tom Clary

Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

 my laptop doesn't have ms office on it, and need a ms office type program 
on it, that works with jaws 17. anyone have any suggestions?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS office substitute

2016-08-13 Thread kurt miller
Adrian,
I can't take credit for this, David Goldfield was where I got the info from. I 
am just glad I could pass it along to help anyone.
Thanks anyway,
Kurt

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 13, 2016, at 10:54 PM, Adrian Spratt <adr...@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
> 
> Kurt, 
> 
> What a terrific post. It's frustrating when people blandly post that a 
> complex program is completely accessible because accessibility is rarely 
> complete. Your careful qualifications will help people decide whether to take 
> the time to try out Libre Office if they're in the market for a Windows 
> Office substitute. It's really appreciated.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of kurt miller
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 7:08 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute
> 
> Tom,
> 
> For those who aren't familiar with this product, LibreOffice is a free, open 
> source Office suite, similar in capabilities to the well-known Microsoft 
> Office. Its word processor is similar to Word in many respects but is 
> referred to as Writer, their Excel-like spreadsheet is called Calc and it 
> contains other programs as well. It may be appealing to some for several 
> reasons. First, it's absolutely free; no licensing, no registration or 
> activation required. It can open and save in Microsoft's formats, meaning 
> that it can open Word files or save spreadsheets in Excel's own format. It 
> also uses the traditional menu bar like Office
> 2003: no ribbons.
> 
> To be honest, when it comes to accessibility it's adequate and usable but it 
> doesn't provide the stellar performance we're used to with Microsoft's Office 
> products. It performs quite well with NVDA and, as of several versions ago, 
> usable with JAWS. It never worked with Window-Eyes, crashing every time 
> Window-Eyes was running although I haven't tested it with the newest 
> LibreOffice and Window-eyes 9.5.
> 
> PCWorld has a brief review of LibreOffice 5.2 at
> 
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/3102849/software-productivity/libreoffice-52-
> includes-classified-documents-and-a-streamlined-interface.html
> 
> You can read more about LibreOffice and download it at
> 
> www.LibreOffice.org
> 
> HTh,
> Kurt  
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:31 PM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute
> 
>  my laptop doesn't have ms office on it, and need a ms office type program on 
> it, that works with jaws 17. anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] MS office substitute

2016-08-13 Thread Adrian Spratt
Kurt, 

What a terrific post. It's frustrating when people blandly post that a complex 
program is completely accessible because accessibility is rarely complete. Your 
careful qualifications will help people decide whether to take the time to try 
out Libre Office if they're in the market for a Windows Office substitute. It's 
really appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of kurt miller
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 7:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

Tom,

For those who aren't familiar with this product, LibreOffice is a free, open 
source Office suite, similar in capabilities to the well-known Microsoft 
Office. Its word processor is similar to Word in many respects but is referred 
to as Writer, their Excel-like spreadsheet is called Calc and it contains other 
programs as well. It may be appealing to some for several reasons. First, it's 
absolutely free; no licensing, no registration or activation required. It can 
open and save in Microsoft's formats, meaning that it can open Word files or 
save spreadsheets in Excel's own format. It also uses the traditional menu bar 
like Office
2003: no ribbons.

To be honest, when it comes to accessibility it's adequate and usable but it 
doesn't provide the stellar performance we're used to with Microsoft's Office 
products. It performs quite well with NVDA and, as of several versions ago, 
usable with JAWS. It never worked with Window-Eyes, crashing every time 
Window-Eyes was running although I haven't tested it with the newest 
LibreOffice and Window-eyes 9.5.

PCWorld has a brief review of LibreOffice 5.2 at

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3102849/software-productivity/libreoffice-52-
includes-classified-documents-and-a-streamlined-interface.html

You can read more about LibreOffice and download it at

www.LibreOffice.org

HTh,
Kurt  



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

  my laptop doesn't have ms office on it, and need a ms office type program on 
it, that works with jaws 17. anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

2016-08-13 Thread Scorpio

Hi David,

The last time I used Open Office it was completely accessible.

How long has it been since you've used it?

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 6:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

Hi Tom,,
I use Libre Office, and it works good with JAWS. It has Word, Excel, and
most programs that correspond to MS Office. I have tried Open Office, but it
was not nearly as accessible with JAWS as Libre Office is. Take care.
David Moore


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary

Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

 my laptop doesn't have ms office on it, and need a ms office type
program on it, that works with jaws 17. anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

2016-08-13 Thread Scorpio
You can use Open Office, which is an open source project and is free to use 
and completely accessible.


Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary

Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

 my laptop doesn't have ms office on it, and need a ms office type
program on it, that works with jaws 17. anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

2016-08-13 Thread Tom

thanks again

-Original Message- 
From: kurt miller

Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 6:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

Tom,

For those who aren't familiar with this product, LibreOffice is a free, open
source Office suite, similar in capabilities to the well-known Microsoft
Office. Its word processor is similar to Word in many respects but is
referred to as Writer, their Excel-like spreadsheet is called Calc and it
contains other programs as well. It may be appealing to some for several
reasons. First, it's absolutely free; no licensing, no registration or
activation required. It can open and save in Microsoft's formats, meaning
that it can open Word files or save spreadsheets in Excel's own format. It
also uses the traditional menu bar like Office
2003: no ribbons.

To be honest, when it comes to accessibility it's adequate and usable but it
doesn't provide the stellar performance we're used to with Microsoft's
Office products. It performs quite well with NVDA and, as of several
versions ago, usable with JAWS. It never worked with Window-Eyes, crashing
every time Window-Eyes was running although I haven't tested it with the
newest LibreOffice and Window-eyes 9.5.

PCWorld has a brief review of LibreOffice 5.2 at

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3102849/software-productivity/libreoffice-52-
includes-classified-documents-and-a-streamlined-interface.html

You can read more about LibreOffice and download it at

www.LibreOffice.org

HTh,
Kurt



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

 my laptop doesn't have ms office on it, and need a ms office type program
on it, that works with jaws 17. anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

2016-08-13 Thread Tom

thank you, I'll check it out

-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

Hi Tom,,
I use Libre Office, and it works good with JAWS. It has Word, Excel, and
most programs that correspond to MS Office. I have tried Open Office, but it
was not nearly as accessible with JAWS as Libre Office is. Take care.
David Moore


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary

Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

 my laptop doesn't have ms office on it, and need a ms office type
program on it, that works with jaws 17. anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

2016-08-13 Thread Josh Kennedy
with libreoffice can you view graphs or charts in spreadsheets, and does 
the virtual pc cursor work like it does in ms word?




On 8/13/2016 6:22 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi Tom,,
I use Libre Office, and it works good with JAWS. It has Word, Excel, 
and most programs that correspond to MS Office. I have tried Open 
Office, but it was not nearly as accessible with JAWS as Libre Office 
is. Take care.

David Moore


-Original Message- From: Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

 my laptop doesn't have ms office on it, and need a ms office type
program on it, that works with jaws 17. anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

2016-08-13 Thread kurt miller
Tom,

For those who aren't familiar with this product, LibreOffice is a free, open
source Office suite, similar in capabilities to the well-known Microsoft
Office. Its word processor is similar to Word in many respects but is
referred to as Writer, their Excel-like spreadsheet is called Calc and it
contains other programs as well. It may be appealing to some for several
reasons. First, it's absolutely free; no licensing, no registration or
activation required. It can open and save in Microsoft's formats, meaning
that it can open Word files or save spreadsheets in Excel's own format. It
also uses the traditional menu bar like Office
2003: no ribbons.

To be honest, when it comes to accessibility it's adequate and usable but it
doesn't provide the stellar performance we're used to with Microsoft's
Office products. It performs quite well with NVDA and, as of several
versions ago, usable with JAWS. It never worked with Window-Eyes, crashing
every time Window-Eyes was running although I haven't tested it with the
newest LibreOffice and Window-eyes 9.5.

PCWorld has a brief review of LibreOffice 5.2 at

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3102849/software-productivity/libreoffice-52-
includes-classified-documents-and-a-streamlined-interface.html

You can read more about LibreOffice and download it at

www.LibreOffice.org

HTh,
Kurt  



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Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:31 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

  my laptop doesn't have ms office on it, and need a ms office type program
on it, that works with jaws 17. anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

2016-08-13 Thread David Moore

Hi Tom,,
I use Libre Office, and it works good with JAWS. It has Word, Excel, and 
most programs that correspond to MS Office. I have tried Open Office, but it 
was not nearly as accessible with JAWS as Libre Office is. Take care.

David Moore


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary

Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

 my laptop doesn't have ms office on it, and need a ms office type
program on it, that works with jaws 17. anyone have any suggestions?

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[JAWS-Users] ms office substitute

2016-08-13 Thread Tom Clary
  my laptop doesn't have ms office on it, and need a ms office type
program on it, that works with jaws 17. anyone have any suggestions?

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/