Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-04 Thread Jason White
If I remember correctly from an incident last year, you can run a repair of
Outlook that rebuilds its databases. This might be worth trying. I can't
remember how to invoke it.

Tom Behler <tombeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, I may do this.
> 
> It's one of those anoying little problems.
> 
> I can't tell whether the issue is with g-mail or Outlook, but I'm now
> thinking it might be Outlook, which would be more within Microsoft's domain.
> 
> Tom Behler
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 11:16 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing
> E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> Tom,
> Why don't you just call the Microsoft Disability Line.
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:46 PM
> To: 'Jaws users list'
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails
> From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> Cristobal:
> 
> I found where to switch my g-mail account to basic HTML view on the g-mail
> web site, and discovered that the folders are much easier to navigate this
> way.
> 
> However, I went into my drafts folder, and discarded all drafts;  but the
> drafts still seem to be stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder.
> 
> This now seems like an Outlook problem, and I'm not sure how to solve it
> from here, since working within my g-mail account itself did not seem to
> correct things.
> 
> Tom Behler
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Cristóbal
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:59 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
> Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
> can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
> from there.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
> Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> Mr.  Ed:
> 
> I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
> e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
> the messages keep re-appearing.
> 
> In other words, they just don't go away!
> 
> I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
> from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
> to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
> go to delete those messages.
> 
> I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
> internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
> should be necessary, though!
> 
> 
> 
> Tom Behler
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
> Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> Hi Tom,
> Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
> that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
> Click yes and it should be gone.
> Mr. Ed  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Cristóbal
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
> Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
> If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
> hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
> settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
> instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
> the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
> internet.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of To

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-04 Thread Tom Behler
Yes, I may do this.

It's one of those anoying little problems.

I can't tell whether the issue is with g-mail or Outlook, but I'm now
thinking it might be Outlook, which would be more within Microsoft's domain.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 11:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing
E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Tom,
Why don't you just call the Microsoft Disability Line.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:46 PM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails
>From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Cristobal:

I found where to switch my g-mail account to basic HTML view on the g-mail
web site, and discovered that the folders are much easier to navigate this
way.

However, I went into my drafts folder, and discarded all drafts;  but the
drafts still seem to be stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder.

This now seems like an Outlook problem, and I'm not sure how to solve it
from here, since working within my g-mail account itself did not seem to
correct things.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!



Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Us

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-04 Thread Tom Behler
My g-mail account is configured as imap.

I do this because it allows me to more easily check e-mail with my laptop
when traveling.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 10:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing
E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Do you have your account configured as imap or  pop3? That would  make a
difference. If pop3, then  it's something to do on your  particular set up.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 4:46 PM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails
>From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Cristobal:

I found where to switch my g-mail account to basic HTML view on the g-mail
web site, and discovered that the folders are much easier to navigate this
way.

However, I went into my drafts folder, and discarded all drafts;  but the
drafts still seem to be stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder.

This now seems like an Outlook problem, and I'm not sure how to solve it
from here, since working within my g-mail account itself did not seem to
correct things.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!



Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: J

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Mr. Ed
Tom,
Why don't you just call the Microsoft Disability Line.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:46 PM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails
>From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Cristobal:

I found where to switch my g-mail account to basic HTML view on the g-mail
web site, and discovered that the folders are much easier to navigate this
way.

However, I went into my drafts folder, and discarded all drafts;  but the
drafts still seem to be stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder.

This now seems like an Outlook problem, and I'm not sure how to solve it
from here, since working within my g-mail account itself did not seem to
correct things.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!



Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Beh

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Cristóbal
Do you have your account configured as imap or  pop3? That would  make a
difference. If pop3, then  it's something to do on your  particular set up.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 4:46 PM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails
>From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Cristobal:

I found where to switch my g-mail account to basic HTML view on the g-mail
web site, and discovered that the folders are much easier to navigate this
way.

However, I went into my drafts folder, and discarded all drafts;  but the
drafts still seem to be stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder.

This now seems like an Outlook problem, and I'm not sure how to solve it
from here, since working within my g-mail account itself did not seem to
correct things.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!



Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: J

Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Cristóbal
If you're in Gmail's standard view, then there's  going  to be a button at
the top of the screen saying "Basic HTML view". Clicking  on  that  will
take  you to the  more  traditional and screen  reader  friendly layout.
Once there, you'll be able to search for and  find the drafts folder easily.
With the Jaws  insert+f7 or a simple  Jaws search  for Drafts. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Cristobal:

Can you tell me how to access the gmail.com HTML page, and what I need to do
from there to change my e-mail view?

Thank you!

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!



Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, Januar

[JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Tom Behler
Cristobal:

I found where to switch my g-mail account to basic HTML view on the g-mail
web site, and discovered that the folders are much easier to navigate this
way.

However, I went into my drafts folder, and discarded all drafts;  but the
drafts still seem to be stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder.

This now seems like an Outlook problem, and I'm not sure how to solve it
from here, since working within my g-mail account itself did not seem to
correct things.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!



Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your

Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Tom Behler
Cristobal:

Can you tell me how to access the gmail.com HTML page, and what I need to do
from there to change my e-mail view?

Thank you!

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!



Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mail

Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Cristóbal
If you find the standard  view for Gmail  too difficult  to navigate, you
can  always switch to the basic  HTML page and  access the drafts folder
from there.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!



Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Jason White
I suggest searching the Web to find out whether there are any known and
relevant issues with Gmail and Microsoft Outlook. If you're using a Gmail
account with MS-Outlook, it's probably using IMAP, and that's a recipe for
potential compatibility issues - including the possibility of recently
introduced bugs on either side.

Tom Behler <tombeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mr.  Ed:
> 
> I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
> e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
> the messages keep re-appearing.
> 
> In other words, they just don't go away!
> 
> I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
> from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
> to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
> go to delete those messages.
> 
> I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
> internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
> should be necessary, though!
> 
> 
> 
> Tom Behler
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
> Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> Hi Tom,
> Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
> that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
> Click yes and it should be gone.
> Mr. Ed  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Cristóbal
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
> Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
> If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
> hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
> settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
> instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
> the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
> internet.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
> Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
> of the household?
> 
> Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.
> 
> The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.
> 
> Tom Behler
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Cristóbal
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
> Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
> Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> George:
> 
> I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!
> 
> This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.
> 
> Tom Behler
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of TheHangMan
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
> Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016
> 
> Hello,
> I whip this trick from my magic bag,
> Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
> add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.
> 
>           Jorge
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Behler
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
> To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Pr

Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Tom Behler
Mr.  Ed:

I tried the Shift delete key method several times for each of the three
e-mails that are now permanently stuck in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder, and
the messages keep re-appearing.

In other words, they just don't go away!

I have also tried going to the gmail web site, and deleting the messages
from my personal g-mail account.  But, I find the web site itself difficult
to navigate, and I have difficulty consistently getting to where I need to
go to delete those messages.

I guess my only option at this point would be to disconnect from the
internet, and see what happens from there.  That just doesn't seem like it
should be necessary, though!



Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Mr. Ed
Hi Tom,
Have you tried doing a shift + delete key. Then you should get a message box
that comes up asking you if you want to permanently delete the message.
Click yes and it should be gone.
Mr. Ed  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Tom Behler
David:

I'm not hard wired, so will have to revert to the suggested method of
unplugging the router, or temporarily disabling my wireless on the computer
itself.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 7:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

If he is hardwired then all he has to do is pull the cat 5 plug out of his
system. Nothing more than that little trick is all he needs.

-Original Message-
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 11:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem WithPermanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Tom Behler
Ok, George. ... Thanks!

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 12:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hi,
If, you just unplug the router is fine, then plug it back,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristsbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristsbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread Tom Behler
Ok.

Will give this a try, although it really shouldn't have to be this hard or
involved.

Not sure why this problem recurs occasionally.

It is what it is, I guess.

Thanks for the tip!

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-03 Thread David Ferrin
If he is hardwired then all he has to do is pull the cat 5 plug out of his 
system. Nothing more than that little trick is all he needs.


-Original Message- 
From: Cristóbal

Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 11:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem WithPermanently Removing E-mails From 
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016


This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-02 Thread TheHangMan
Hi,
If, you just unplug the router is fine, then plug it back,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-02 Thread Cristóbal
This  works when I've got a message  stuck  in the  outgoing folder.
If you're on wifi, just disable  the wireless on your machine and if you're
hard  wired, depending  on what system you're running, go into  adaptor
settings  or network (maybe someone  else can give you  specific
instructions) and  disable the connection. Then go  back and try  to  delete
the messages and  hopefully after they're gone, go  back  and  enable  your
internet.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-02 Thread Adrian Spratt
Since other suggestions haven't worked, have you tried shift-delete to delete a 
message while it's still in the drafts folder? Shift-delete bypasses the 
delete/trash folder and permanently deletes a message.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts 
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.

 

I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.

 

I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.

 

I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them from 
that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft e-mails 
re-appear.

 

Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in my 
personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this does 
not always work either.

 

Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately get 
rid of those stubborn draft messages?

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-02 Thread Tom Behler
How exactly can I do this without interrupting internet service for the rest
of the household?

Am not sure why Outlook refuses to permanently delete these messages.

The problem only occurs with the drafts folder.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-02 Thread Cristóbal
Try  disabling your  wi-fy/internet connection  and then delete.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-02 Thread Tom Behler
George:

I did this, and the messages re-appeared in my Outlook 2016 drafts folder!

This, even after I opened them from my in-box, and deleted them.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From
Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-02 Thread TheHangMan
Hello,
I whip this trick from my magic bag,
Open the mail, shift tab back to the too field, back space the address and
add your own, tab back to the message body and send it to your self.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 7:58 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts
Folder In Outlook 2016

Hello.



I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.



I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.



I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.



Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.



Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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[JAWS-Users] Problem With Permanently Removing E-mails From Drafts Folder In Outlook 2016

2017-01-02 Thread Tom Behler
Hello.

 

I have just experienced the recurrence of a nagging problem in Outlook 2016.

 

I seem to be unable to remove items from my drafts folder.

 

I can move them to my trash folder, and supposedly permanently delete them
from that folder, but when I go back to my drafts folder, the original draft
e-mails re-appear.

 

Sometimes, I can correct this situation by going into the drafts folder in
my personal g-mail account and eliminating the messages that way, but this
does not always work either.

 

Has anyone else experienced this issue?  And, if so, how did you ultimately
get rid of those stubborn draft messages?

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/