Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
On a graphic image, isn't it C in other words, the insert-space dual-layer keystroke, followed by O for OCR, and C for graphical image! Steve - Original Message - From: "wayne smith" <waynesoundsm...@earthlink.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR My OCR WORKS but if I am on a graphic and I press insert-space and then o I then press d for document an nothing happens. What gives? Wayne -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Humberto Rodriguez Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR It does work, I use it. Humberto -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of mary otten Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR Very much appreciated, Rebecca. I’m glad this is possible. I had actually looked at the FS site about their Openbook program, although I’ve been a K1000 user for a very, very very long time. But it looks like OB doesn’t run under win-10 based on what I saw, which would be a show stopper for sure for me. Mary Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Rebecca Lineberger Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:45 PM To: jaws user's list Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results. This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. Smile. I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" PDF and JPG. Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the "alert, empty document," message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o, then d, with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to Recognize with JAWS. I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said Started. The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy it with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or control a, to select all, and control c to copy. I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual. I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, notepad would be no different. As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. Again, I used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to Recognize with JAWS. I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy, smile, and kept giving me information about non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with my table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a better option in this case. When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had when scanned by JAWS. At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word. Word was no longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. For those who have made it to the end, HTH. Smile. Rebecca A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
My OCR WORKS but if I am on a graphic and I press insert-space and then o I then press d for document an nothing happens. What gives? Wayne -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Humberto Rodriguez Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR It does work, I use it. Humberto -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of mary otten Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR Very much appreciated, Rebecca. I’m glad this is possible. I had actually looked at the FS site about their Openbook program, although I’ve been a K1000 user for a very, very very long time. But it looks like OB doesn’t run under win-10 based on what I saw, which would be a show stopper for sure for me. Mary Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Rebecca Lineberger Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:45 PM To: jaws user's list Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results. This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. Smile. I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" PDF and JPG. Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the "alert, empty document," message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o, then d, with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to Recognize with JAWS. I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said Started. The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy it with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or control a, to select all, and control c to copy. I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual. I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, notepad would be no different. As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. Again, I used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to Recognize with JAWS. I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy, smile, and kept giving me information about non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with my table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a better option in this case. When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had when scanned by JAWS. At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word. Word was no longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. For those who have made it to the end, HTH. Smile. Rebecca A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
It does work, I use it. Humberto -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of mary otten Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR Very much appreciated, Rebecca. I’m glad this is possible. I had actually looked at the FS site about their Openbook program, although I’ve been a K1000 user for a very, very very long time. But it looks like OB doesn’t run under win-10 based on what I saw, which would be a show stopper for sure for me. Mary Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Rebecca Lineberger Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:45 PM To: jaws user's list Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results. This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. Smile. I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" PDF and JPG. Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the "alert, empty document," message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o, then d, with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to Recognize with JAWS. I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said Started. The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy it with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or control a, to select all, and control c to copy. I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual. I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, notepad would be no different. As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. Again, I used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to Recognize with JAWS. I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy, smile, and kept giving me information about non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with my table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a better option in this case. When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had when scanned by JAWS. At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word. Word was no longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. For those who have made it to the end, HTH. Smile. Rebecca A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
I do not know at this time. We had an open book list some years ago but it never took off so we shut it down. -Original Message- From: Mary Otten Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:54 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR Is there a users list for that product? Mary Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:50 AM, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com> wrote: Open Book works fine under windows 10. I am sitting in front of such a system so take my word for it. -Original Message- From: mary otten Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR Very much appreciated, Rebecca. I’m glad this is possible. I had actually looked at the FS site about their Openbook program, although I’ve been a K1000 user for a very, very very long time. But it looks like OB doesn’t run under win-10 based on what I saw, which would be a show stopper for sure for me. Mary Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Rebecca Lineberger Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:45 PM To: jaws user's list Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results. This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. Smile. I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" PDF and JPG. Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the "alert, empty document," message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o, then d, with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to Recognize with JAWS. I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said Started. The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy it with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or control a, to select all, and control c to copy. I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual. I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, notepad would be no different. As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. Again, I used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to Recognize with JAWS. I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy, smile, and kept giving me information about non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with my table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a better option in this case. When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had when scanned by JAWS. At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word. Word was no longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. For those who have made it to the end, HTH. Smile. Rebecca A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
Hi Mary, Give this Openbook list a try: openbook+subscr...@groups.io You can try this 1 as well, but I'm not sure if it's still active: openbook-users-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Take care. Mike. Dodgers, try again next year! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Mary Otten To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR Thanks, Rick. I’m not familiar with that tech talk list. Where is it hosted? I would look it up if I had a clue where to start. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 19, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Rick Justice <ricjust...@jaws-users.com> > wrote: > > Hi Mary, > I am not sure if there are any active lists, I subscribed to one some time > ago, > and never did see any traffic. > If you are on the tech talk list, you could post your question there. > > HTH, > Rick Justice > > "Tomorrow's another day, another way!" > "and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!" > > - Original Message - > From: "Mary Otten" <maryot...@comcast.net> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:54 AM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR > > > Is there a users list for that product? > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:50 AM, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com> wrote: >> >> Open Book works fine under windows 10. I am sitting in front of such a >> system so take my word for it. >> >> -Original Message- From: mary otten >> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:13 PM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR >> >> Very much appreciated, Rebecca. I’m glad this is possible. I had actually >> looked at the FS site about their Openbook program, although I’ve been a >> K1000 user for a very, very very long time. But it looks like OB >> doesn’t run under win-10 based on what I saw, which would be a show >> stopper for sure for me. >> >> Mary >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Rebecca Lineberger >> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:45 PM >> To: jaws user's list >> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR >> >> There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned >> results. >> This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. >> Smile. >> >> I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. >> >> I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" >> PDF and JPG. >> >> Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the >> >> "alert, empty document," >> >> message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, >> o, >> then d, >> >> with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context >> menu >> key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to >> >> Recognize with JAWS. >> >> I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said >> >> Started. >> >> The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy >> it >> with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or >> control a, to select all, and control c to copy. >> >> I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as >> usual. >> I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, >> notepad would be no different. >> >> As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, >> scanned >> in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. >> >> All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. >> Again, >> I >> used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to >> >> Recognize with JAWS. >> >> I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text >> waiting >> to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not >> happy, >> smile, and kept giving me information about >> >> non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with >> my >> table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might >> be >> a >> better option in this case. >> >> When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it >> had >> when scanned by J
Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
Adrian, I had not thought that it was referring to 2018, duh. I too have stayed with JAWS 18 after upgrading to 2018 due to serious Outlook and QuickBooks issues. The next time I have 2018 fired up I will try Rebecca's technique. George The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. George a Martinez CPA, PC 12231 N 50th Avenue Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215 Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206-666-2589 Email ga.marti...@cox.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 12:37 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR George, in case there's any confusion, JAWS 19 is what FS eventually released as JAWS 2018. Amusing that their 2018 OCR message betrays the original intent to continue with the previous version numbering sequence. As I'm sure you know, 2018 introduces an expanded version of Convenient OCR. I have yet to try it because 2018 gives me new Outlook and IE11 problems, but it looks as though Rebecca gives a nice introduction. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of George Martinez Sr Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:02 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR Rebecca, I followed your suggestion in my JAWS 18, Windows 10 system and used a PDF file. When I press enter JAWS gives me this strange dialog box message: "Convenient OCR is not available unless JAWS 19 or later is running" Seems that method does not work for all... Would be nice if it did. George The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. George a Martinez CPA, PC 12231 N 50th Avenue Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215 Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206-666-2589 Email ga.marti...@cox.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:05 PM To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results. This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. Smile. I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" PDF and JPG. Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the "alert, empty document," message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o, then d, with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to Recognize with JAWS. I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said Started. The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy it with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or control a, to select all, and control c to copy. I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual. I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, notepad would be no different. As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. Again, I used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to Recognize with JAWS. I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy, smile, and kept giving me information about non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with my table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a better option in this case. When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had when scanned by JAWS. At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word. Word was no longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. For those who have made it to the end, HTH. Smile. Rebecca A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
Hi Mary, Below is the subscribe address: techtalk+subscr...@groups.io HTH, Rick Justice "Tomorrow's another day, another way!" "and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!" - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" <maryot...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR Thanks, Rick. I’m not familiar with that tech talk list. Where is it hosted? I would look it up if I had a clue where to start. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 19, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Rick Justice <ricjust...@jaws-users.com> > wrote: > > Hi Mary, > I am not sure if there are any active lists, I subscribed to one some time > ago, > and never did see any traffic. > If you are on the tech talk list, you could post your question there. > > HTH, > Rick Justice > > "Tomorrow's another day, another way!" > "and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!" > > - Original Message - > From: "Mary Otten" <maryot...@comcast.net> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:54 AM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR > > > Is there a users list for that product? > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:50 AM, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com> wrote: >> >> Open Book works fine under windows 10. I am sitting in front of such a >> system so take my word for it. >> >> -Original Message- From: mary otten >> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:13 PM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR >> >> Very much appreciated, Rebecca. I’m glad this is possible. I had actually >> looked at the FS site about their Openbook program, although I’ve been a >> K1000 user for a very, very very long time. But it looks like OB >> doesn’t run under win-10 based on what I saw, which would be a show >> stopper for sure for me. >> >> Mary >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Rebecca Lineberger >> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:45 PM >> To: jaws user's list >> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR >> >> There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned >> results. >> This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. >> Smile. >> >> I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. >> >> I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" >> PDF and JPG. >> >> Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the >> >> "alert, empty document," >> >> message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, >> o, >> then d, >> >> with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context >> menu >> key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to >> >> Recognize with JAWS. >> >> I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said >> >> Started. >> >> The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy >> it >> with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or >> control a, to select all, and control c to copy. >> >> I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as >> usual. >> I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, >> notepad would be no different. >> >> As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, >> scanned >> in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. >> >> All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. >> Again, >> I >> used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to >> >> Recognize with JAWS. >> >> I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text >> waiting >> to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not >> happy, >> smile, and kept giving me information about >> >> non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with >> my >> table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might >> be >> a >> better option in this case. >> >> When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it >> had >> when scanned by JAWS. >> >> At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the >> information in notepad, copied it,
Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
George, As I said, I'm using JAWS version 2018. I loaded version 18, and I don't have Recognize with JAWS Displayed in the context menu for the PDF file. I'm assuming that this way of using OCR is not available with older versions of JAWS. I checked, and the layered keystrokes insert-spacebar, o then d work once you've opened the file with Adobe and gotten the Alert, empty document message. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of George Martinez Sr Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:02 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR Rebecca, I followed your suggestion in my JAWS 18, Windows 10 system and used a PDF file. When I press enter JAWS gives me this strange dialog box message: "Convenient OCR is not available unless JAWS 19 or later is running" Seems that method does not work for all... Would be nice if it did. George The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. George a Martinez CPA, PC 12231 N 50th Avenue Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215 Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206-666-2589 Email ga.marti...@cox.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:05 PM To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results. This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. Smile. I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" PDF and JPG. Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the "alert, empty document," message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o, then d, with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to Recognize with JAWS. I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said Started. The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy it with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or control a, to select all, and control c to copy. I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual. I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, notepad would be no different. As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. Again, I used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to Recognize with JAWS. I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy, smile, and kept giving me information about non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with my table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a better option in this case. When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had when scanned by JAWS. At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word. Word was no longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. For those who have made it to the end, HTH. Smile. Rebecca A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
George, in case there's any confusion, JAWS 19 is what FS eventually released as JAWS 2018. Amusing that their 2018 OCR message betrays the original intent to continue with the previous version numbering sequence. As I'm sure you know, 2018 introduces an expanded version of Convenient OCR. I have yet to try it because 2018 gives me new Outlook and IE11 problems, but it looks as though Rebecca gives a nice introduction. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of George Martinez Sr Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 10:02 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR Rebecca, I followed your suggestion in my JAWS 18, Windows 10 system and used a PDF file. When I press enter JAWS gives me this strange dialog box message: "Convenient OCR is not available unless JAWS 19 or later is running" Seems that method does not work for all... Would be nice if it did. George The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. George a Martinez CPA, PC 12231 N 50th Avenue Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215 Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206-666-2589 Email ga.marti...@cox.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:05 PM To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results. This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. Smile. I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" PDF and JPG. Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the "alert, empty document," message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o, then d, with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to Recognize with JAWS. I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said Started. The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy it with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or control a, to select all, and control c to copy. I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual. I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, notepad would be no different. As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. Again, I used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to Recognize with JAWS. I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy, smile, and kept giving me information about non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with my table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a better option in this case. When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had when scanned by JAWS. At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word. Word was no longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. For those who have made it to the end, HTH. Smile. Rebecca A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
Thanks, Rick. I’m not familiar with that tech talk list. Where is it hosted? I would look it up if I had a clue where to start. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 19, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Rick Justice <ricjust...@jaws-users.com> wrote: > > Hi Mary, > I am not sure if there are any active lists, I subscribed to one some time > ago, > and never did see any traffic. > If you are on the tech talk list, you could post your question there. > > HTH, > Rick Justice > > "Tomorrow's another day, another way!" > "and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!" > > - Original Message - > From: "Mary Otten" <maryot...@comcast.net> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:54 AM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR > > > Is there a users list for that product? > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:50 AM, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com> wrote: >> >> Open Book works fine under windows 10. I am sitting in front of such a >> system so take my word for it. >> >> -Original Message- From: mary otten >> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:13 PM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR >> >> Very much appreciated, Rebecca. I’m glad this is possible. I had actually >> looked at the FS site about their Openbook program, although I’ve been a >> K1000 user for a very, very very long time. But it looks like OB >> doesn’t run under win-10 based on what I saw, which would be a show >> stopper for sure for me. >> >> Mary >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> From: Rebecca Lineberger >> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:45 PM >> To: jaws user's list >> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR >> >> There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned >> results. >> This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. >> Smile. >> >> I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. >> >> I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" >> PDF and JPG. >> >> Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the >> >> "alert, empty document," >> >> message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, >> o, >> then d, >> >> with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context >> menu >> key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to >> >> Recognize with JAWS. >> >> I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said >> >> Started. >> >> The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy >> it >> with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or >> control a, to select all, and control c to copy. >> >> I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as >> usual. >> I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, >> notepad would be no different. >> >> As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned >> in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. >> >> All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. Again, >> I >> used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to >> >> Recognize with JAWS. >> >> I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text >> waiting >> to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not >> happy, >> smile, and kept giving me information about >> >> non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with >> my >> table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be >> a >> better option in this case. >> >> When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it >> had >> when scanned by JAWS. >> >> At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the >> information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word. Word was no >> longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. >> >> For those who have made it to the end, HTH. Smile. >> >> Rebecca >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open. >> >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Hi Mary, I am not sure if there are any active lists, I subscribed to one some time ago, and never did see any traffic. If you are on the tech talk list, you could post your question there. HTH, Rick Justice "Tomorrow's another day, another way!" "and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!" - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" <maryot...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR Is there a users list for that product? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:50 AM, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com> wrote: > > Open Book works fine under windows 10. I am sitting in front of such a > system so take my word for it. > > -Original Message- From: mary otten > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:13 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR > > Very much appreciated, Rebecca. I’m glad this is possible. I had actually > looked at the FS site about their Openbook program, although I’ve been a > K1000 user for a very, very very long time. But it looks like OB > doesn’t run under win-10 based on what I saw, which would be a show > stopper for sure for me. > > Mary > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Rebecca Lineberger > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:45 PM > To: jaws user's list > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR > > There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned > results. > This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. > Smile. > > I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. > > I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" > PDF and JPG. > > Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the > > "alert, empty document," > > message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, > o, > then d, > > with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context > menu > key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to > > Recognize with JAWS. > > I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said > > Started. > > The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy > it > with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or > control a, to select all, and control c to copy. > > I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as > usual. > I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, > notepad would be no different. > > As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned > in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. > > All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. Again, > I > used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to > > Recognize with JAWS. > > I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text > waiting > to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not > happy, > smile, and kept giving me information about > > non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with > my > table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be > a > better option in this case. > > When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it > had > when scanned by JAWS. > > At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the > information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word. Word was no > longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. > > For those who have made it to the end, HTH. Smile. > > Rebecca > > > > > > > > A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open. > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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George, There is no JAWS 19. Are you sure of that message? Can you use Insert+Spacebar followed by H to get the speech history up for perusal? What version of Adobe are you using to view the PDF? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "George Martinez Sr" <ga.marti...@cox.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 07:01 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR Rebecca, I followed your suggestion in my JAWS 18, Windows 10 system and used a PDF file. When I press enter JAWS gives me this strange dialog box message: "Convenient OCR is not available unless JAWS 19 or later is running" Seems that method does not work for all... Would be nice if it did. George The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. George a Martinez CPA, PC 12231 N 50th Avenue Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215 Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206-666-2589 Email ga.marti...@cox.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:05 PM To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results. This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. Smile. I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" PDF and JPG. Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the "alert, empty document," message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o, then d, with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to Recognize with JAWS. I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said Started. The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy it with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or control a, to select all, and control c to copy. I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual. I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, notepad would be no different. As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. Again, I used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to Recognize with JAWS. I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy, smile, and kept giving me information about non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with my table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a better option in this case. When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had when scanned by JAWS. At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word. Word was no longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. For those who have made it to the end, HTH. Smile. Rebecca A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
Rebecca, I followed your suggestion in my JAWS 18, Windows 10 system and used a PDF file. When I press enter JAWS gives me this strange dialog box message: "Convenient OCR is not available unless JAWS 19 or later is running" Seems that method does not work for all... Would be nice if it did. George The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. George a Martinez CPA, PC 12231 N 50th Avenue Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215 Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206-666-2589 Email ga.marti...@cox.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:05 PM To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results. This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. Smile. I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" PDF and JPG. Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the "alert, empty document," message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o, then d, with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to Recognize with JAWS. I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said Started. The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy it with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or control a, to select all, and control c to copy. I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual. I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, notepad would be no different. As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. Again, I used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to Recognize with JAWS. I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy, smile, and kept giving me information about non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with my table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a better option in this case. When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had when scanned by JAWS. At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word. Word was no longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. For those who have made it to the end, HTH. Smile. Rebecca A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
Is there a users list for that product? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 19, 2017, at 6:50 AM, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com> wrote: > > Open Book works fine under windows 10. I am sitting in front of such a system > so take my word for it. > > -Original Message- From: mary otten > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:13 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR > > Very much appreciated, Rebecca. I’m glad this is possible. I had actually > looked at the FS site about their Openbook program, although I’ve been a > K1000 user for a very, very very long time. But it looks like OB > doesn’t run under win-10 based on what I saw, which would be a show stopper > for sure for me. > > Mary > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Rebecca Lineberger > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:45 PM > To: jaws user's list > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR > > There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results. > This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. > Smile. > > I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. > > I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" > PDF and JPG. > > Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the > > "alert, empty document," > > message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o, > then d, > > with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu > key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to > > Recognize with JAWS. > > I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said > > Started. > > The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy it > with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or > control a, to select all, and control c to copy. > > I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual. > I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, > notepad would be no different. > > As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned > in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. > > All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. Again, I > used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to > > Recognize with JAWS. > > I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting > to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy, > smile, and kept giving me information about > > non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with my > table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a > better option in this case. > > When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had > when scanned by JAWS. > > At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the > information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word. Word was no > longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. > > For those who have made it to the end, HTH. Smile. > > Rebecca > > > > > > > > A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open. > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
Open Book works fine under windows 10. I am sitting in front of such a system so take my word for it. -Original Message- From: mary otten Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 9:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR Very much appreciated, Rebecca. I’m glad this is possible. I had actually looked at the FS site about their Openbook program, although I’ve been a K1000 user for a very, very very long time. But it looks like OB doesn’t run under win-10 based on what I saw, which would be a show stopper for sure for me. Mary Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Rebecca Lineberger Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:45 PM To: jaws user's list Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results. This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. Smile. I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" PDF and JPG. Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the "alert, empty document," message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o, then d, with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to Recognize with JAWS. I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said Started. The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy it with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or control a, to select all, and control c to copy. I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual. I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, notepad would be no different. As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. Again, I used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to Recognize with JAWS. I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy, smile, and kept giving me information about non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with my table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a better option in this case. When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had when scanned by JAWS. At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word. Word was no longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. For those who have made it to the end, HTH. Smile. Rebecca A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
Very much appreciated, Rebecca. I’m glad this is possible. I had actually looked at the FS site about their Openbook program, although I’ve been a K1000 user for a very, very very long time. But it looks like OB doesn’t run under win-10 based on what I saw, which would be a show stopper for sure for me. Mary Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Rebecca Lineberger Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:45 PM To: jaws user's list Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results. This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. Smile. I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" PDF and JPG. Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the "alert, empty document," message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o, then d, with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to Recognize with JAWS. I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said Started. The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy it with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or control a, to select all, and control c to copy. I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual. I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, notepad would be no different. As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. Again, I used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to Recognize with JAWS. I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy, smile, and kept giving me information about non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with my table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a better option in this case. When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had when scanned by JAWS. At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word. Word was no longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. For those who have made it to the end, HTH. Smile. Rebecca A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Using JAWS OCR
There have been several questions about OCR and saving the scanned results. This is what I did. This is a bit detailed, so delete as you please. Smile. I'm using Windows 10 1709 Creator update, Jaws 2018 and Word 2010. I have several image files saved so was able to test using these formats" PDF and JPG. Rather than first opening the PDF file, waiting for the "alert, empty document," message, and then scanning with the layered keystrokes, insert-spacebar, o, then d, with the PDF file selected in a folder in Documents, I used the context menu key, also known as the application key, and arrowed down to Recognize with JAWS. I pressed enter and after a second or two, JAWS said Started. The scanned information was there to read. I was able to select and copy it with the usual Windows commands, either shift-down arrow to select, or control a, to select all, and control c to copy. I then pasted the results into Word, and there it was, to be saved as usual. I did not try to save in Notepad, assuming that if all worked in Word, notepad would be no different. As to the second format, a print letter with an embedded picture, scanned in Kurzweil and saved as a JPG image, it worked a bit different. All went the same until I pasted the copied information into Word. Again, I used the context menu key on the file name to arrow to Recognize with JAWS. I was told that the image was right-side up, and there was the text waiting to be read. But when I copied and pasted it into Word, Word was not happy, smile, and kept giving me information about non-uniform tables, row and column information. Rather than playing with my table settings in the JAWS quick settings menu, I figured notepad might be a better option in this case. When I pasted the same copied results into notepad, the file read as it had when scanned by JAWS. At this point, just because I prefer saving in Word, I reselected the information in notepad, copied it, and pasted it into Word. Word was no longer cross, muttering about tables, so all was well. For those who have made it to the end, HTH. Smile. Rebecca A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it isn't open. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
