Re: [JAWS-Users] could someone please help me with frenchandspanish accent symbols please?

2008-08-14 Thread Flor Lynch
And at that, the ctrl-shift-# key does not work in the US keyboard layout in 
Microsoft Word.  (Neither will its shift-3 'number' key work in trying to 
produce an accent sign.)  You can switch keyboard languages 'on the fly', 
and investigate these matters for yourself or selves.

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Steve,
The number or 'hash' key (what they sometimes call the 'pound key' is
different on the US keyboards.  Our # [number] key is a backslash key there.

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I'm using the keyboard that came with my Optiplex 755. It's a standard Dell
keyboard, model number SK-8115, with 105 keys and set for UK use. As far as
I understand, the features that I've mentioned are within Word or Windows
XP, rather than being functions of the keyboard.

Steve

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Hi Steve,

Could you let me know what type and how many key keyboard you are using?  It
sounds interesting and also sounds like it has a lot more functionality than
my MS Ergonomic 101/102 key keyboard.  I would truly appreciate any
information you can provide me with.  Thanks much.  Mike
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Quite right! And it's not even Friday...

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Steve, you mean three to the right don't you? The key three to the left of
the letter l is surely the h key.
Cheers
Alex

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Steve
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On my keyboard, the key three to the left of the letter l is marked with the
# symbol. Hold down the Control and Shift keys together and tap this key,
then let go of all three keys and tap n to get ñ.

The grave key is to the left of the number 1, and above the Tab key.

For circumflex, press Control + Shift + 6, e to get ê

Steve

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Thanks for that, but what do you mean by control shift and number? I also
need the circumflex, and how do I get the grav to work? kk.
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Here are a couple of other options you may want to explore.

In Word, the following keystrokes can be used to insert French or Spanish
characters):
Control + apostrophe, e gives é
Control + grave, e gives è
Control + comma, c gives ç
Control + Shift + #, n gives ñ
Those are the ones I know about - are there more accented characters you
need?

Only the first of these works for me in Outlook 2003. I don't have Word as
my e-mail editor and if I change the setting so it is, all the above
keystrokes work in Outlook too.

If you intend to use these other languages a lot, you can add the ability to

switch your keyboard language between English, French and Spanish.  This has

far-reaching effects, for instance with it set to French, the top line of
the main part of the keyboard, which in English contains the numbers, has
these characters in place of numbers 1 to 0:  é  ' ( - è _ ç à

I haven't tested the following with JAWS, but can see no reason why it
should be a problem. To add another language to your keyboard, go to Control

Panel, Regional and Language options, Languages page. Use the Details button

to open another dialogue and use the Add button to select the language you
want. Note that Spanish Spanish is listed as Spanish (Traditional sort).

Once you have more than one language set up, you can

Re: [JAWS-Users] could someone please help me with frenchandspanish accent symbols please?

2008-08-12 Thread Griffiths, Steve
Quite right! And it's not even Friday... 

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] could someone please help me with frenchandspanish 
accent symbols please?

Steve, you mean three to the right don't you? The key three to the left of
the letter l is surely the h key.
Cheers
Alex

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Steve
Sent: 12 August 2008 14:31
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] could someone please help me with french
andspanish accent symbols please?

On my keyboard, the key three to the left of the letter l is marked with the
# symbol. Hold down the Control and Shift keys together and tap this key,
then let go of all three keys and tap n to get ñ.

The grave key is to the left of the number 1, and above the Tab key.

For circumflex, press Control + Shift + 6, e to get ê

Steve

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helpmewithfrenchandspanishaccent symbals please?

Thanks for that, but what do you mean by control shift and number? I also 
need the circumflex, and how do I get the grav to work? kk.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:27 PM
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mewithfrenchandspanishaccent symbals please?


Here are a couple of other options you may want to explore.

In Word, the following keystrokes can be used to insert French or Spanish 
characters):
Control + apostrophe, e gives é
Control + grave, e gives è
Control + comma, c gives ç
Control + Shift + #, n gives ñ
Those are the ones I know about - are there more accented characters you 
need?

Only the first of these works for me in Outlook 2003. I don't have Word as 
my e-mail editor and if I change the setting so it is, all the above 
keystrokes work in Outlook too.

If you intend to use these other languages a lot, you can add the ability to

switch your keyboard language between English, French and Spanish.  This has

far-reaching effects, for instance with it set to French, the top line of 
the main part of the keyboard, which in English contains the numbers, has 
these characters in place of numbers 1 to 0:  é  ' ( - è _ ç à

I haven't tested the following with JAWS, but can see no reason why it 
should be a problem. To add another language to your keyboard, go to Control

Panel, Regional and Language options, Languages page. Use the Details button

to open another dialogue and use the Add button to select the language you 
want. Note that Spanish Spanish is listed as Spanish (Traditional sort).

Once you have more than one language set up, you can switch between them 
with Alt + Shift.

Steve

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Sent: 11 August 2008 13:34
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withfrenchandspanishaccent symbals please?

After I told you about the JAWS symbol to print dialogue, I told you about
the insert symbols - special - dialogue in Microsoft word, which also gives
the keystrokes for them.  Basically, an accent sign is often formed by
pressing a key with the alt and ctrl keys together, and these together with
the shift key to form the grave accent version.  Thus, we can have _Buenos
_días, _SeÑor in Spanish, correctly accented!  (Con apologias, I have a
wrong accent sign in that mix.)

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frenchandspanishaccent symbals please?


Hi there. I found the accents, but is there a way I can do the hot keys
instead of scrolling down the symbals until I find the one I want?
thanks.kk.
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 You'll find many of them listed when you go down the JAWSKey+4 select a
 symbol to print list.  Also, they are included in the Insert Special
 Symbols dialogue in the Insert menu of Microsoft word.  Know that a grave
 accent is a shifted acute accent, so that ANSI225 is a-acute whilst
 ANSI193
 is A-Grave.  the Spanish tilde-n is ansi241 and ANSI209.

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