Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
I had the same problem with sympatico, I just hit reply. -Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members Hi David, This is just a thought. Maybe some of the problem is that they have lost electric service back east due to the storm and maybe that is shutting down some servers and causing an issue with the email accounts. Just a thought. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members For those who missed my earlier post, we received over 70 messages pertaining to members email addresses bouncing this morning. Mostly from com cast but a number of other providers as well. Yes just reply to the message from Mailman to enable your subscription again and all should return to normal right away. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members The kicker is that people on com cast are still active on here, very strange. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Moderator Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members The majority of the domains affected seem to be : comcast sbcglobal yahoo Frontier Rogers msn hotmail outlook live and a few from the UK etc. Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
David you have done a marvelous job running this list ever since I first signed up. It is one of the best run lists that I have tried. I, for one, want to thank you for the way you run the list and all of the work you put into it. LeDon. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 5:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members Let me explain something folks, in order to change the name of the list it would require setting up an entirely new list. The name cannot simply be changed at all like I did once on Yahoo groups. Also to move it to another domain name and web provider would cost around $200 a year for the server space and domain. Donations to the cause are so far covering my costs but they in no way could handle another domain. I am sorry that at times subscriptions run in to difficulty and you need to reactivate your respective accounts, but that in the grand scheme of things sounds like a small price to pay. I currently own this domain until 2020, is the list going to go that long you might wonder. The short answer is I don't know, we're coming up on 10 years in business which I personally can't believe myself. David Ferrin For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
Hi David, This is just a thought. Maybe some of the problem is that they have lost electric service back east due to the storm and maybe that is shutting down some servers and causing an issue with the email accounts. Just a thought. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members For those who missed my earlier post, we received over 70 messages pertaining to members email addresses bouncing this morning. Mostly from com cast but a number of other providers as well. Yes just reply to the message from Mailman to enable your subscription again and all should return to normal right away. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members The kicker is that people on com cast are still active on here, very strange. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Moderator Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members The majority of the domains affected seem to be : comcast sbcglobal yahoo Frontier Rogers msn hotmail outlook live and a few from the UK etc. Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
Hi, Sadly Comcast is famous for bouncing email lists such as this one. It's why I moved all of my subscriptions to a gmail account years ago. Sometimes gmail too flags them as spam and traps them in their spam folder easily accessed and rectified through their web interface but I haven't had as many incidents of bouncing therein. Now watch me jinx myself having said that (smile). I recognize this is not a viable solution for all I just wanted to mention that this is not a new occurrence at least with Comcast. Good luck to all who are impacted. Robin -Original Message- From: Moderator Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members The majority of the domains affected seem to be : comcast sbcglobal yahoo Frontier Rogers msn hotmail outlook live and a few from the UK etc. Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
My only reply can be, you lie and I'll swear to it. That's as good a reason as anything else that has crossed my desk today, and believe me a lot of mail has crossed my desk. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members Hi David, This is just a thought. Maybe some of the problem is that they have lost electric service back east due to the storm and maybe that is shutting down some servers and causing an issue with the email accounts. Just a thought. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members For those who missed my earlier post, we received over 70 messages pertaining to members email addresses bouncing this morning. Mostly from com cast but a number of other providers as well. Yes just reply to the message from Mailman to enable your subscription again and all should return to normal right away. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members The kicker is that people on com cast are still active on here, very strange. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Moderator Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members The majority of the domains affected seem to be : comcast sbcglobal yahoo Frontier Rogers msn hotmail outlook live and a few from the UK etc. Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
Well they are coming across my desk just fine. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. - Original Message - From: Michelle Clark mcik...@aol.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I replied to the message and then sent two emails to the list. I have yet to read my emails. Michelle -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:02 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
I replied to the message and then sent two emails to the list. I have yet to read my emails. Michelle -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:02 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
Yes I received an email saying that I'd been unsubscribed due to bouncing emails so I replied on the one the moderator sent me to resubscribe. Pam Mahuika South Dunedin Otago New Zealand Skype: pam mahuika -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Thursday, 19 February 2015 6:37 a.m. To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members Hi, Sadly Comcast is famous for bouncing email lists such as this one. It's why I moved all of my subscriptions to a gmail account years ago. Sometimes gmail too flags them as spam and traps them in their spam folder easily accessed and rectified through their web interface but I haven't had as many incidents of bouncing therein. Now watch me jinx myself having said that (smile). I recognize this is not a viable solution for all I just wanted to mention that this is not a new occurrence at least with Comcast. Good luck to all who are impacted. Robin -Original Message- From: Moderator Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members The majority of the domains affected seem to be : comcast sbcglobal yahoo Frontier Rogers msn hotmail outlook live and a few from the UK etc. Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
I'll try.. I was referring to my web mail from my ISP side, not my email client I use. I logged into my account at TW, went to mail, then settings and then to address book is one place I started at. i put the jaws-users list in the address book to force TW to recognize this as a good email and not spam. It's the only address I have through the web based mail of my ISP. I changed some of the spam settings to not delete them should I get any and in the case of mail from this list ending up there, I could find it and forward it to my inbox. I also chose all mail regardless of it's content to be forwarded to my inbox of my email client. All of this is in settings of your web mail. there's some other features not necessarily for this list one can use for their mail how it's treated if away or etc. Through the junk folder, I changed a setting in it to allow for I think it was not filtering I can choose what I think is spam and deal with it, I am paying for this so I figure I should be the one to decide where my mail goes and not TW,lol - Original Message - From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members Trish, Could you explain this a bit better, I'm confused. Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:00 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members hope it's not for my ISP. I had to trick TW in recognizing this list as not being spam. This might help others, to put this in the web address of their ISP mail, then also as added protection, cause like why not, indicate not to be blocked. I'm not sure if I have bounced or not, but I have noticed in past, it seems like my original email post to the list would be very slow in coming. There's tweaks one can do to the web mail from the server side even if your not using that for your mail client.It pretty much works on the same principal as junk mail, where you desinate what is junk or not, you have that safe senders list. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 6:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
The majority of the domains affected seem to be : comcast sbcglobal yahoo Frontier Rogers msn hotmail outlook live and a few from the UK etc. Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
We've notified our e-mail service and web host that jaws-users.com is not a spamming site and still I get the bounce notices about once a week. Per David's note, I smile and re-up, good to go for another week. When our domain registration runs out in June, we'll seek another host and another email service/spam filter. Moving to Blue Host, I think. Any better ideas? Currently use Front Host. On 2/18/2015 11:11 AM, Moderator wrote: The majority of the domains affected seem to be : comcast sbcglobal yahoo Frontier Rogers msn hotmail outlook live and a few from the UK etc. Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
David, Contact me later today for some possible solutions. Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:02 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
Hi Jim, I don't have any suggestions for you at this time, but I suspect that this problem can occurr on any of them. As far as the use of spam filters, I don't like them for my personal use, I have found them to be more trouble than the're worth! Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: Jim Pursley jim.purs...@gaiacapital.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members We've notified our e-mail service and web host that jaws-users.com is not a spamming site and still I get the bounce notices about once a week. Per David's note, I smile and re-up, good to go for another week. When our domain registration runs out in June, we'll seek another host and another email service/spam filter. Moving to Blue Host, I think. Any better ideas? Currently use Front Host. On 2/18/2015 11:11 AM, Moderator wrote: The majority of the domains affected seem to be : comcast sbcglobal yahoo Frontier Rogers msn hotmail outlook live and a few from the UK etc. Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
I suspected my subscription might be bouncing. Sunny Day Maria Campbell luc...@ct.metrocast.net Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. Blaise Pascal On 2/18/2015 6:02 AM, David Ferrin wrote: I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
The kicker is that people on com cast are still active on here, very strange. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Moderator Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members The majority of the domains affected seem to be : comcast sbcglobal yahoo Frontier Rogers msn hotmail outlook live and a few from the UK etc. Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
I went through this problem just this morning. Mike Boyd blindb...@comcast.net Best, Mike blindb...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Moderator Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members The majority of the domains affected seem to be : comcast sbcglobal yahoo Frontier Rogers msn hotmail outlook live and a few from the UK etc. Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
Trish, Could you explain this a bit better, I'm confused. Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:00 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members hope it's not for my ISP. I had to trick TW in recognizing this list as not being spam. This might help others, to put this in the web address of their ISP mail, then also as added protection, cause like why not, indicate not to be blocked. I'm not sure if I have bounced or not, but I have noticed in past, it seems like my original email post to the list would be very slow in coming. There's tweaks one can do to the web mail from the server side even if your not using that for your mail client.It pretty much works on the same principal as junk mail, where you desinate what is junk or not, you have that safe senders list. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 6:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
I received the message and just did a reply, as instructed. A confirmation message soon followed. Very strange, indeed. Pauline - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members The kicker is that people on com cast are still active on here, very strange. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Moderator Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members The majority of the domains affected seem to be : comcast sbcglobal yahoo Frontier Rogers msn hotmail outlook live and a few from the UK etc. Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
hope it's not for my ISP. I had to trick TW in recognizing this list as not being spam. This might help others, to put this in the web address of their ISP mail, then also as added protection, cause like why not, indicate not to be blocked. I'm not sure if I have bounced or not, but I have noticed in past, it seems like my original email post to the list would be very slow in coming. There's tweaks one can do to the web mail from the server side even if your not using that for your mail client.It pretty much works on the same principal as junk mail, where you desinate what is junk or not, you have that safe senders list. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 6:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
For those who missed my earlier post, we received over 70 messages pertaining to members email addresses bouncing this morning. Mostly from com cast but a number of other providers as well. Yes just reply to the message from Mailman to enable your subscription again and all should return to normal right away. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members The kicker is that people on com cast are still active on here, very strange. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Moderator Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members The majority of the domains affected seem to be : comcast sbcglobal yahoo Frontier Rogers msn hotmail outlook live and a few from the UK etc. Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
Trish, Okay, makes perfect sense now. For some reason I was thinking you were talking about your email client and that logging into Time Warner and adjusting the settings. I have change some settings in there in the past myself and so will go in and check that out that is a good suggestion Best, Alan On Feb 18, 2015, at 11:21, Trish patricia.zoell...@tx.rr.com wrote: I'll try.. I was referring to my web mail from my ISP side, not my email client I use. I logged into my account at TW, went to mail, then settings and then to address book is one place I started at. i put the jaws-users list in the address book to force TW to recognize this as a good email and not spam. It's the only address I have through the web based mail of my ISP. I changed some of the spam settings to not delete them should I get any and in the case of mail from this list ending up there, I could find it and forward it to my inbox. I also chose all mail regardless of it's content to be forwarded to my inbox of my email client. All of this is in settings of your web mail. there's some other features not necessarily for this list one can use for their mail how it's treated if away or etc. Through the junk folder, I changed a setting in it to allow for I think it was not filtering I can choose what I think is spam and deal with it, I am paying for this so I figure I should be the one to decide where my mail goes and not TW,lol - Original Message - From: Alan Robbins arobb...@blindhandyman.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members Trish, Could you explain this a bit better, I'm confused. Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:00 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members hope it's not for my ISP. I had to trick TW in recognizing this list as not being spam. This might help others, to put this in the web address of their ISP mail, then also as added protection, cause like why not, indicate not to be blocked. I'm not sure if I have bounced or not, but I have noticed in past, it seems like my original email post to the list would be very slow in coming. There's tweaks one can do to the web mail from the server side even if your not using that for your mail client.It pretty much works on the same principal as junk mail, where you desinate what is junk or not, you have that safe senders list. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 6:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
I was wondering weather changing the name of the list would stop emails from this list going into spam at servers end. Off the top of my head I can't think of a relavent name but maybe running a competition for a new name could be run. Just a suggestion. Pam Mahuika South Dunedin Otago New Zealand Skype: pam mahuika -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Moderator Sent: Thursday, 19 February 2015 3:26 a.m. To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members Hi Jim, I don't have any suggestions for you at this time, but I suspect that this problem can occurr on any of them. As far as the use of spam filters, I don't like them for my personal use, I have found them to be more trouble than the're worth! Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: Jim Pursley jim.purs...@gaiacapital.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members We've notified our e-mail service and web host that jaws-users.com is not a spamming site and still I get the bounce notices about once a week. Per David's note, I smile and re-up, good to go for another week. When our domain registration runs out in June, we'll seek another host and another email service/spam filter. Moving to Blue Host, I think. Any better ideas? Currently use Front Host. On 2/18/2015 11:11 AM, Moderator wrote: The majority of the domains affected seem to be : comcast sbcglobal yahoo Frontier Rogers msn hotmail outlook live and a few from the UK etc. Richard Q. Justice-list moderator jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:02 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members I have received around 70 notices this morning of members who's subscription have been disabled for bouncing. If any of you out there who are still receiving messages know anybody on com cast, SBC Global, hot mail and a number of other providers who have had their membership disable pending reactivation by the server to have them contact their ISP and explain that this domain is not a source of Spam that would be fantastic. Otherwise this list might shut down a lot faster than I ever figured it would. Granted the members in question have to follow the directions from the mailman server to reactivate their accounts, I'm sure most of them will do just that. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with mail delivery for some members
Let me explain something folks, in order to change the name of the list it would require setting up an entirely new list. The name cannot simply be changed at all like I did once on Yahoo groups. Also to move it to another domain name and web provider would cost around $200 a year for the server space and domain. Donations to the cause are so far covering my costs but they in no way could handle another domain. I am sorry that at times subscriptions run in to difficulty and you need to reactivate your respective accounts, but that in the grand scheme of things sounds like a small price to pay. I currently own this domain until 2020, is the list going to go that long you might wonder. The short answer is I don't know, we're coming up on 10 years in business which I personally can't believe myself. David Ferrin For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
